Construction and Features
Liteville takes aluminum frame construction to the next level. The 301's profile, with its four-bar Horst-Link rear suspension and top tube rocker, has been around for over a decade, but its designers are crazy about details, no matter how small, and each year the 301 is upgraded to reflect riding progression, extend the lifetime of the machine, or (the Holy Grail of German bike makers) nudge the bike's stiffness-to-weight one notch ahead of its competitors. Liteville is nerd, times the square root of the speed of light.
Liteville designs and rigorously tests their bikes in Germany and the frames are made at a high-end factory in Taiwan. The frame tubes are butted and profiled to maximize strength. Most of the welds are double-pass, a technique which has been proven to extend the fatigue life of the joints. Up front, the tapered head tube is fitted with a press-fit Syntace VarioSpin headset
with zero angle. An optional headset can increase or decrease the head tube angle by 1.5 degrees. The standard head angle is 66 degrees.
Asymmetric design: (From left) Evo6 offset swingarm; the SuperYoke swingarm junction; the wider, left-offset swingarm bearing stance; and the set-back seatpost clamping head.
Like most frames these days, the 301's brake hose, dropper seatpost and gear housings are internally routed. Liteville uses screw-on fittings to ensure that the control conduits feed in at proper angles, and to simplify installation, they included a hatch on the bottom side of the down tube to access the inside of the frame where they turn towards their final destinations. The swingarm is machined to guide the housings around the tire and, unless you look closely, you won't see a cable or hose until they emerge from the clevis pivots near the rear dropouts. Clean and elegant.
Liteville was the first brand to adopt the EightPins
integrated dropper post, which allows the rider to customize both the upper and lower saddle heights to suit, and features a stiff, 33-millimeter stanchion diameter. Liteville has always been a proponent of oversized seatposts because they allow greater extension and lower stand-over heights with less flex. The 301's straight seat tube is set forwards 52 millimeters (similar to Knolly) to clear the rear tire at full compression, while a special setback seatpost head maintains the correct top tube/front-center distance and effective seat tube angle.
The thread-in bottom bracket is 92 millimeters wide and welded into a massive, hollow box-section. Proper chain-line and crank clearance is made possible by using boost-width hubs and then offsetting the swingarm an additional six-millimeters to the right. The "Evo6" asymmetric swingarm produces a zero-dished rear wheel with same-sized spokes and enhanced stiffness. The second benefit is that the chainring can be moved outwards to make plenty of room for 2.6-inch tires and still be perfectly aligned with the center of a 12-speed cassette.
Smaller details abound, (some carried over, some new). A spare break-away bolt for the X12 thread-in rear axle and derailleur hanger is stored in the left side of the swingarm. Our test bike also had the optional X-Tool Allen key, which snaps inside the hollow axle. To maximize mud clearance, there is no chain stay bridge - the chain stays are connected by a yoke below the pivot bearings, and should you desire a front derailleur, Liteville provides mounts for a Shimano side-swing type. Of course, you can mount a large sized water bottle on the down tube of all frame sizes. More tech details here.
I own an ageing 26" liteville, a third hand mk. 8. It rides fantastically, gets me out of trouble and has made me a better and more aggressive rider, and it shows no signs of slowing down; plus I'm still covered by the 10 year warranty. It's never even come close to eunuching me; it isn't physically possible!
Like everyone on here I have a wandering eye and I've test ridden a few things over the years but I've never found something which improves on it, and if it does die I'll probably get another.
I was given the Liteville advent calendar a few years ago, that was also safe and progressively gave birth to a great Wera socket set that my son (I ride a Nukeproof Mega) has since stolen.
This bike works perfectly to handle very much of every trail on earth - also some bike park lines. But it's not a DH bike. Please consider this.
Well that's a deal breaker then. Moving on.
"Stuff is working." (quote from my gf)
This argument is pops up in every test/review, but in my opinion you shall do something really nasty with that linkage to hurt yourself.
No, just kidding, well put, upvoted.
Good point buddy, but from first hand I can tell you that there is no problem even for the boys with balls like melons...
A vas is done by a surgeon, not hedge clippers.
For 250 Euro extra, you can actually get in any color you want.
Uh...yeah what he said.
Other posts are shorter like the 160mm travel Bike Yoke is 463mm long and the 9point8 is 455mm for 150mm.
Checkout the VitamlMtb dropper post faceoff. They list all the different numbers.
I fit a 160mm Bike Yoke in my bike and could only fit a 125mm long post of many other brands.
I still think that the design ist very unsatisfying! It's as "unsexy" as they come...
I would prefer the Commencal over the Liteville any day of the week!
True, but a bike can still be a looker and work well! I need both worlds in a bike! I love the looks of my Spartan, and it's a fine working piece ...
1 - I miss pedals on a jump
2 - I hit my balls to top tube as it is high as fck (stand over height is crazy)
3 - I compress suspension with my weight and linkage is just going up into my body (bals or my legs)
4 - I pray for very slow rebound on my damper in hope, that being in pain, I will be faster to pull whatsoever melted of my croch area into link and frame interface
5 - God does not listen to ma as I am A BADPOTATO
6 - Something is being cut off of me as my suspension comes back to SAG
7 - I scream because my left ball is now pinched by “protruding pin that works as a ‘fckg’ SAG indicator” and it is stuck between that pincher and linkage.
8 - I cry because many of you, here at pinkbike, warned me and I just could not resist the uniqueness and all that from above
Also do like the layout of the rocker cause of its aesthatics. It seems to be a hardtail. And dropper is a real good idea from engineering perspective
Holy shit that keeps both camps happy we might have a bike of the year!
aka: The Ball Chopper !!!
Isn't it possible that you could fall in just the right way while the suspension was compressed and...?
Now, if you're stupid enough to stick your winky in the linkage while your buddy is bouncing on the bike, then well...I've got nothing for ya.
I think I'll just keep riding my Mojo.
2) depends on the build
3) shut up, it doesn't
4) I also dislike that
4) HD4's stated BB drop is 12mm, 301's is 10mm, so that's not at all weirdly high.
5) just stop
1) Frame weight: 301 is more than half a pound heavier. Build weight is whatever you want it to be.
2) You're right, the aluminum is frame is $188 cheaper than an Ibis full carbon frame. Again, build it as expensive as you want from there.
3) Have you ridden one? What's your inseam? Notice Liteville doesn't include the standover height in the geometry diagram?
4) I didn't say BB drop, I said BB height. Since you apparently don't know the difference, BB drop is the distance the BB is below a line drawn between the hubs and BB height is the distance of the BB above the ground.
The Liteville BB HEIGHT (distance above the ground) is higher than every other 27.5 160mm travel bike I could find, higher than two 27.5 170mm travel bikes, and even higher than some 29ers, thus making it an outlier, or "weirdly high."
BB drop is actually more precise, because the height will be slightly different with different size tires: 2.2 vs 2.8, though this is actually very minimal when the bike is being ridden because the bigger tires will be run with less pressure thus having more "tire sag" and giving a very close effective wheel radius, which then gives a very close hub height, which we can then derive the BB height from if we know the BB drop.
We also don't know if those height measurements are made when the bike is static (full suspension extension) or at the suggested sag positions.
And yes, the Horst-link style four-bar suspension design has been around for a while, but it works very well and can be designed with quite varying kinematics. Now that the Specialized patent has expired in the US, almost every manufacturer that didn't already have a dual-short-link design is now producing Horst-link designs for sale in the US. And in fact, dw-link style dual-short-link designs are also effectively four-bar designs, so the Mojos are more closely related to the Liteville than you know.
Rather, the point is to have up to date geo matched with best attributes of wheel sizes. Front-roll over & rear snappy-more crotch room for steeps/jumping.
the new Liteville 601 mk 4 has been out for more that a year...
test? review? anything on the bike most other enduro manufacturers copy shamelessly...
The guys at LV are also pretty competent and friendly. I "only" got the cheap 301 Version (H3 Hardtail) but Im so happy with it.
And Id would rather go with LV, cause when built from frame, you also get a good dropperpost.
So this isn't a mountain bike.
(nice bike; can't afford)
So bravi! Another Mountain Bike Fiction style bike test!!!!