Video: Magura Concept Integrates Brake Hoses Into Handlebars for Cable-Free Cockpit

Jun 19, 2019
by D. Voss  

PRESS RELEASE: Magura

The new Magura Cockpit Integration (MCi) is a hydraulic brake that’s fully integrated into the handlebar. With no external cables, the MCi gives riders a tidy cockpit, better aerodynamics and greater protection for hydraulic components. The MCi is part of the new Magura Integration Series.


This new Magura Integration Series is a completely new product series. It is characterized by unique integration solutions that further optimize the design and function of the already-proven Magura products. After successfully producing the integrated HSi rim brake and the HGi heated grips, Magura has now turned its attention to the cockpit.


Magura MCi

The new MAGURA MCi has all wires and cables laid inside the handlebars. The result is a tidy appearance and enhanced functionality, offering effective protection against crashes and mechanical damage. The design of the new MCi also makes it possible for manufacturers to consistently extend the design language of the frame into the cockpit.


During the development of the hydraulic unit, the Magura specialists relied on in-house motorcycle know-how. The MCi functions in the same way as a retrofit hydraulic clutch for motorcycles.


The heart of the Magura MCi is a cylinder, which is located in the handlebar grip area. The dimensions of the expansion reservoir and the piston diameter of the MCi correspond to the dimensions used in the Magura MT series, giving the MCi the same stability and braking force as conventional Magura MT brakes. The MCi is available with 2-piston and 4-piston brake callipers.


The brake lines are also laid inside the handlebar – they are led through the stem unit and steering tube through special holes in the handlebars. From there, the lines are led to the fork crown, then into the frame and the front brake calliper. Other variations are being considered, such as cable routing through a special headset in the frame. The handlebars and stems are especially designed for use with the Magura MCi.


The MCi is actuated by a lever unit attached to the handlebar – the only visible component of the new brake. The system is equally suitable for mountain bike or urban use depending on the installed handlebar and stem unit. Thanks to the lever bearing point being close to the handlebar, however, the MCi gives riders a more direct braking feeling than all previous Magura brakes. The ratio between lever travel and braking force is also designed to be more progressive, refining the modulation of the brake.


The lever angle of the MCi is individually adjusted to each bicycle model and optimized for the best possible seating position. Special handlebar grips with a fixed core also allow a projection of up to 2cm at the handlebar end. The handle width is infinitely variable on the lever blade.

Easy maintenance and user-friendly – the Magura Easy Link

The development of the Easy Link was focused on user-friendly service and maintenance, plus of course a tidy cockpit integration. The MCi is the fist Magura product to use the new Easy Link cable coupling.


The new Easy Link coupling is a special plug-in connector that links the cockpit unit and the brake line. During a service, the cockpit unit can be easily separated from the cable within the frame. Brake bleeding is carried out by means of the proven Magura Easy Bleed Technology and a bleed screw at the handlebar end.

Presentation and fist serial model

Initially, the MCi will only be reserved for OE partners. Magura will act as MCi system supplier during the development and will specify the components such as handlebars, stem unit and cable routing together with the respective bicycle manufacturer. An aftermarket version is not planned for the near future.


Magura will initially present a trail bike with MCi as the basis for this product innovation. The trail bike will have an almost-ready serial production version of the cockpit integration, the wireless Magura Vyron eLect seat post, internal lines and a wireless Sram AXS drivetrain. This setup means that the bike is entirely free of external cables and lines.

MAGURA will present the MTB study and the world‘s fist production bike with MCi at the Eurobike Media Days (July 2-4). Magura’s partner is a German brand manufacturer who will present the MCi for the fist time on one of its urban bikes. The bike will be available to customers some time in 2019.




281 Comments

  • + 300
 I'm seriously amazed by the stubbornness of Pinkbike readers towards new tech.

It's like you've got the collective memory of a goldfish. We didn't have fancy suspension, 180mm 6pot sandwich disk brake systems, dropper posts and a ton of other stuff we take for granted, frowning when a new bike doesn't have the latest tech.
How the hell do you think we got here?
By creating a million new and weird concepts and abomination freak-bikes, that's how.
A lot of them failed to go past the prototype, others past gen 1, until the filter narrowed them down to what we have today.

If you're not happy about the new tech, go ride your Penny-farthing and shut up about it!

"It's okay to not like thinks, just don't be a dick about it."

/rant over
  • + 25
 It would be another story of Magura wasn't known for having shitty plastic mounting parts even on their high-end brakes. Another large part of their business is replacement parts for the auto industry and they have a big injection molding capacity because of it. So they tend to do things like have plastic composite female ends for the handlebar mounting assembly that strips with very little effort. Metal grub bolts into a plastic receiver never works out well but they repeatedly do it despite of their reputation. With that in mind, if you think that the rest of this hidden wire assembly will work out well with that kind of engineering mindset, I have a Nigerian prince that wants to talk to you about a banking opportunity.
  • + 5
 @MrMentallo: How different would it be really, jump into The Message article comment section. Same exact comments.

Haha, funny about the engineering mindset, have you seen a derailleur recently?
Imagine 1930-35, Pinkbike's comment section (newspaper version obviously):
"Who needs such complication on a bike?","Never gonna be reliable?","You believe this engineering mindset?","You think TDF mechanics would switch to that instead of swapping wheels?"

Sounds familiar?
  • - 43
flag lkubica (Jun 19, 2019 at 6:11) (Below Threshold)
 I am just trying to build a new bike for 3 f*nkg days. First internal dropper routing with so many curves, that it was almost impossible to do it, then internal routing of the (already factory blead) brake, and yesterday it occured that the frame is not compatible with standard shimano brake adapter. So, no, get your new tech and go masturbate.
  • + 18
 @lkubica: So you got incompatible components. The bike industry should apologize to you personally and get you an externally routed rigid fixie. Big Grin

Also, why are you using a dropper? And an internally routed one at that...
  • + 3
 @lkubica: use a vacuum for that dropper cable.. Works for me every time
  • + 5
 @Milko3D: Totally agree with you.

Of all the far fetch concepts we've seen over the years, an integrated cockpit as proposed by Magura who isn't my favorite brake maker by any means, does make sense. I see no reason why a little overdesign in the bar couldn't allow us to make provision for piston assembly storage in the handlebar. Most people who diss this idea probably ride a bike made up of design ideas that would have been ludacris 15 years ago...

As far as I'm concerned, the more innovation the better, so long as there isn't an engine on my bike.

PS. @Milko3D we should go ride on our illegal trails and complain about mountain biking in Tirol...
  • + 2
 @fredbusher: I'm off to the illegal one across town after work. Fancy joining?
  • - 22
flag m33pm33p (Jun 19, 2019 at 7:09) (Below Threshold)
 You are litterally the sheeple of the industry. This is backwards useless engineering from a company with a proven shit track record in the braking department. They're still riding coat tails from they're hydro v brakes in 1999
  • + 16
 @m33pm33p: Heh. If you say so. I've got one bike. It's 4 years old, bought on end-season-sale. Nothing too fancy about it.

Not gonna buy gen1 Magura MCI nor gen1 The Message.

But I'm really glad there are people with disposable cash, tinkerers, who will, so when I get gen3 on sale one day it'll be proven and vastly improved.

Early adopters FTW!

And you can keep shouting at the kids to get off your lawn in the meantime Razz
  • - 23
flag BuffnStuff (Jun 19, 2019 at 7:29) (Below Threshold)
 "It's okay to not like thinks, just don't be a dick about it." You're beeing the dick, mate
  • - 8
flag m33pm33p (Jun 19, 2019 at 7:42) (Below Threshold)
 @BuffnStuff:

Nah, I use some sort of forward thinking. This guy just wants to spew bs then defend it with a cheeky last line. Magura sucks, end of story.
  • - 9
flag zyoungson (Jun 19, 2019 at 7:44) (Below Threshold)
 There are good ideas then there are shit ideas. this is definitely a shit idea
  • + 5
 @m33pm33p: Well, you've not been using Magura brakes for a while if you really believe this.
  • + 11
 I think you interpret bike history in a very flawed way.

Take rear suspension, indeed it went through weird stuff, and still do sometimes, there was a problem which was lack of comfort and grip when going up or down, suspension was an interesting concept, many options tried to get where we are now.

You can even take more recent innovation like 1x drivetrain, brands needs more room around the bottom bracket area to allow decent tires, good rear end rigidity, short enough chainstays and decent weight. We tried few iterations and now have some decent options that are getting refined.

But then you have wireless (Sram) or electric stuff (Di2) that is solving non existing problems for the sake of it. I can see the point of wireless seat-post (for frame design) but nothing else. Same with Pressfit, BB30 and such, solving non existing problems while just creating a headache for the users.

Having your hoses hidden mostly creates problems and will make bike maintenance a nightmare, to solve what problem ? With 1x transmission we have 4 hoses, potentially 3 with a wireless SP how is this a problem ? Sure it may look a bit better without the hoses showing but unless you ride 2x a month and get your work done by a shop then the "prettiness" will have a very high time cost.
  • + 7
 @Balgaroth: Not so flawed then.

While I'm not a fan of having electronic bits on my bike, we shouldn't forget that there are many types of bikes and bike use cases and users.

Not everyone will go on adventures in the middle of nowhere. So wireless shifting and seatposts might not be an issue for them. Therefore the issues I have with those bits aren't valid in their case.
What do they solve? Well, self adjusting, no lag, convenience, ease of use.
Again, these might not be a problem for you and me, but there are other people riding bikes out there.

Right now this particular system is not perfect. Far from it. It will have issues.
But imagine 5-10 years from now, brakes levers, fluid reservoirs and grips/handles might be a modular and interchangeable system that's a lot easier to maintain and mix&match.
Or perhaps, they'll be an integrated module that screws to the rest of the handlebar.

Does it sound stupid? Maybe. But so did air-sprung suspension, hydraulic brakes (which also introduced more problems than they solved initially) and so on.
Or maybe it's a gimmick and a year from now no one will remember it.
  • + 8
 @Milko3D: People can be rightly skeptical of design ideas that have potential failings or problems. There are MANY ideas from the past that were total garbage (biopace, suspension posts, allsop for offroad, flex stems, hydraulic rim brakes). You can't just handpick the good stuff (suspension and brakes) and say that's what new ideas equate to. I would say people have a legitimate reason to criticize, and maybe even outwardly scorn integrated systems like this from Magura due to their likely impact on bike costs.
  • + 4
 We've seen enough allready to be able to separate what's complicated and offers nothing in advantage compared to what's carrently in use, simple swaps of handlebars or stems is boring, let alone to deal with this pile of crap and for what? Aesthetics?? Ffs
  • + 3
 sorry but I'd have even less confidence in my carbon bars after drilling holes in them to route the cables down my stem.
  • + 3
 @Milko3D: there is a difference between working on suspension a few years back that was basically a bunch of clueless guys trying their best and fail. many solutions where already available but also mtb was like a subculture and engineers where not so involved with the sport so the abominations of the past. But trying to intagrade a system like brakes in a place that doesn't belong, inside the f*cking handlebar. That goes a long way creating issues for nothing than aesthetics.
  • + 3
 @m33pm33p: Did you not read his post? Okay, Magura sucks, or whatever, but this shit will be sweet once Shimano figures out how to do the same thing but better. That's how innovation works in this industry, dummy.
  • + 0
 @projectnortheast: Like you carbon frame that's got a dozen holes in it? This is an asinine comment.
  • + 2
 @MrMentallo: have you ever ridden magura brakes? I’ve had MT5s and they were the most trouble free brake I’ve ever owned. You know dirt bikes have had metal screw that go right into the plastic tank to hold the shrouds forever, and nobody is complaining about them.
  • - 3
 @universalcode: Frames were engineered to have holes in them, how many handlebars on the market do you think were designed to have some bikeshop kid drill holes in the center of carbon handlebars? I'm guessing none. It's a nice concept but how many stems are hollow, and steertubes will also need to be drilled through? Just the thought of the constant rubbing of the cables no matter what you do to protect them inside makes me cringe. So, ya, asinine I guess if you don't like facts.
  • + 2
 @BuffnStuff: He's really not. He is being perfectly logical and sensible about it all.
  • + 2
 It is not necessarily stubbornness. PinkBike is like the Shark Tank of mountain biking. PB-ers are the most hardcore riders so they will pick apart all the weaknesses of a product. The product must be tested and proven before it gets the thumbs up.
  • + 1
 @MrMentallo: Shigura to the rescue. Metal Shimano levers with Magura MT5 calipers.
  • + 2
 Who are these maniac luddites who wouldn't like a wire/tube/cable-less cockpit? Gloriously refined.
  • + 4
 @tacklingdummy: Drilling holes in a crucial part of the handlebar seems like an obvious weakness to me.

I just don't see what existing problem this system solves unless you are obsessed about how aerodynamic your bicycle is. The best use of this technology would be on time trial bikes as far as I can tell.
  • + 2
 @cerealkilla: Yes, of course, and they should.
Like I said I'm just amazed at the attitude, like:
- No! This is stupid. We have brakes and levers and they work fine, don't try new things!
Considering most people here are riding engineering wonders

@adespotoskyli: I don't know man, what problems did 1x drivetrains solve? Or hydraulic brakes?
It's hard to tell which innovation will survive and what won't, and it's perfectly fine to be skeptical, but some open-mindedness won't hurt methinks.
  • - 5
flag madmon (Jun 19, 2019 at 17:59) (Below Threshold)
 BULL SHIT
  • + 1
 It's cool! Makes for a nice looking ride. And I agree that it seems MTBer's are often very stubborn to accept new tech. BUT... a LOT of added complexity to solve a "mostly" non issue? A wireless dropper and drivetrain are at least removing parts that wear and need adjustment. This isn't doing anything to improve the braking.

I'm very skeptical that the amount of aerodynamic drag created by cables is large enough to make any statistical difference... It for sure would not make any difference in a trail ride?

I've read on the internet that someone snagged and ripped/broke/pulled out a brake cable and lost brake function. But I've never actually seen nor heard of it and think it's such a minuscule issue that it doesn't warrant the extra up front set up time and cost of this?

Not that it matters, but honestly I think it looks kind of weird not to have brake cables? Smile

ON the flip side, maybe if SCOTT partnered with with Magura on their next TwinLoc equipped bike people would stop complaining about all the extra cables...? Smile
  • + 1
 @JesseE: It is not a riser bar. It is more of an XC bar. If they had riser bar options I would be more into it.
  • - 1
 "I'm seriously amazed by the stubbornness of Pinkbike readers towards new tech"

but also...

"I'm not a fan of having electronic bits on my bike"

riiiiiiiiiight.....
  • + 2
 I think we're all just content to toss this on the pile with Lefty Forks, Rapidrise derailleurs, GT iDrive BBs, hopefully pressfit BBs in general, etc. FS bikes don't need to be aero. This doesn't solve any problems and will only compound issues moving forward. I can't wait to explain to a customer that to swap out their stem that they also have to pay for 2 brake bleeds.
  • + 1
 @madstace: OUT OF CONTEXT! Maybe read the whole post?
  • + 4
 @stiingya: Yes, good points!

The thing is you are comparing an already improved and established version of 1x, version one was a lot less reliable.

Let's take tubeless for example. Remember how messy this was at first? It tried to solve one problem - punctures, while introducing multiple new ones: messy setup, trail side leaks, if the bead dislodges you need a compressor and so on. And right now it's pretty much set and forget. Do you remember the mockery laid on those who wanted/tried tubless back then?

How long did it takes us to accept wheels a few centimeters larger in diameter? It's ridiculous Big Grin

So, when new stuff come out it's perhaps smarter to think where things could go, instead of what are the immediate benefits. Try to imagine it as complete system in a few revisions, what would that look like?
What if you could detach lever/reservoir and caliper, not having to bleed the cables in the middle or remove them and then just plug them back in? That would be so much easier to service and maintain.

Just to remind everyone, both gen1 electric cars and digital cameras were mostly an inconvenience.
  • + 1
 @Milko3D: 1x drivetrains solved the problem of Shimano holding all the shifting patents.
  • - 1
 @MrMentallo: Tech is meh. But your investment opportunity sounds too good to miss... Check out www.419eater.com
  • + 4
 The difference between suspension and brake technology/dropper posts/geometry development is that putting cables inside a bar is not technology development, is just putting cables inside a bar.
  • + 2
 This seems like a very simple system that will give mountain bikers more options.

You want to rotate those bars? Sorry, not an option.

You want a different brand stem? Not an option.

Different brand of bars or grips? Not an option.

Different brand of fork? Not an option.

Cut your bar length? Not an option.

You crashed and spun the bars? That will be a $500 repair because we have to replace all the internal cables we worked so hard to hide.

You want to add some spacers under the stem? We will need to bleed your brake system, replace the internal cables, and you will have to buy a new fork.

Your headset bearings need grease? We will need to bleed your brake system.

Now you want to go back to a normal bicycle? That's an option.
  • + 1
 Magura does have a wireless dropper for those who are not able to do propper internal routing. New tech often fails because of the user, not because of the technology itself.
  • + 1
 @Milko3D: it ain't hard, just thing,. 1x less cramped cockpit, no chain derailments, keeps almost the same range as ypu get rid of simillar ratios, lighter, less things to go f*cking wrong. ffs what possibly shoving all these hydro cables inside a steerer jammed by a starnut will offer? As other people mentioned, the steerer tube isn't the place for running internal brake lines with quick connectors of some kind. Also there is a thing being so open minded your brains fall out. Go get a broom, you are wellcome
  • + 1
 @Milko3D: do you really follow any other sport? Tubeless have been around for years, also tire companies like maxxis did tubeless compatible tires for motorbikes, cars, atvs and god knows what, tubeless was not discovered for bicycles. I never had an issue setting up cause I knew how it worked. Also the wheel invented before bicycles.
  • + 0
 @adespotoskyli: you're taking the piss, right?

How many times do I have to say it. No 1st gen tech will ever be better than the established dominant standard or technology. No 1st gen disk brakes, droppers, 1x drivetrains, digital cameras, almost nothing!
It was all f*cking flawed and at times doomed to fail!

In 5-10 years when most bikes are fully internally routed one way or another, we can have this conversation again, hopefully at a trailhead while having a beer and reminiscing about how near sighted you were back then.

Peace out.
  • + 2
 That’s cute , bet u like 29ers
  • + 1
 @Milko3D: Fair enough Milko. You have a good point. However, one can also say that there are different types of innovation. Hydraulic brakes and 1x drivetrains were significant advances that greatly changed the overall configuration of bikes. Many new advances are focused on minor refinements, and ultimately amount to specialized systems that may not benefit riders in any meaningful way when you consider the costs and drawbacks associated with such systems. Things that cater to a "system bike" rather than interchangeability of parts ultimately bring along costs. I think that's what gets people's hackles up...not a rejection of innovation.
  • + 0
 @Milko3D: it's a stubit idea, get over it,

Also I don't want to go through 4gen of somebody's f*ck ups for no obvious reasons and no advantage over any other system that might replace.
  • + 0
 This is more "marketing tech" than "new tech". Nobody wants or needs this unless you are the ultimate dentist douchebag.
  • + 1
 I'm all for innovation for the purpose of a better ride, I would love an AXS Reverb, but the only problem this seeks to solve is purely aesthetic. Internal cable routing is one thing, this is next level.

As a bike mechanic, I spend WAY too much of my day trying to fish cables and hoses through poorly designed frames. If they can make it work, then sweet, I'm on board. However, as somebody who has worked on Magura products and seen how poorly thought-out they are, I can't see this working.

That said, if you've got money to throw at it then it doesn't matter - I just pity the poor bike mechanic that's going to waste his/her time trying to get it working!

I wouldn't call this innovation - what problem does it solve? Does it improve the way the bike rides? The way the bike works? No. This is what one of my colleagues calls 'pretengineering'.
  • + 1
 @sam264: Don't bike mechanics and bike shops like the complicated internal cabling systems because it is better for business because people don't want install them?
  • + 1
 @tacklingdummy:
Typically on jobs like that we don't make too much money because people don't want to pay 2 hours labour at $80/hr for replacing a gear cable, so we have to undercharge a little.

Also it's not fun....
  • + 111
 this is a real brake trough..thanks magura
  • + 18
 Yeah, thank you Magura, but.... no, thank you.
  • + 6
 Yeah, absolutely on the bleeding edge! Way to brake the mould!
  • + 19
 I can't wait till someone walks into the workshop and asks for their handlebars to be bled
  • + 2
 OHHHH MYYY GOOOOOD
  • + 13
 Bad idea ! Where would i put my EDC tool
  • + 6
 It's quite a Bold idea.
  • - 4
flag zokinjo (Jun 19, 2019 at 10:00) (Below Threshold)
 @felimocl: hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahah...
The answer will be: "Suck my dick...!!!!"
  • + 3
 I am not sure what internal cable routing in a handlebar has to do with invention of suspension or disc brakes. That’s like saying: “not sure about The Kardashians...” - “oh you stubborn moron, people were saying the same about Carl Sagans show”
  • + 82
 Guys don’t panic.. Scott will come up with a reason to have two more cables to replace them
  • + 62
 When a service guy actually realize in person, this is another level in internal routing.... priceless face
  • + 97
 When the customer gets the bill for the work on the brakes... priceless face
  • + 16
 @kazwei: another funny one would be playing a joke on your non cyclist friends.. just explain them these are wireless brakes, watch their face melt down Big Grin
  • + 12
 When a customer asks the shop staff their opinion of this highly restrictive, unnecessarily complicated, majorly proprietary piece of tech that will cost them more to both buy and maintain....priceless face
  • + 3
 @Stampers: Then their mate "who knows a lot about bikes" tells them it's a good idea and they buy it anyway.
  • + 2
 @Stampers: patented proprietary piece of tech.
  • + 2
 @mate1998: I guess next step is wireless :-) 2000EUR for a pair of wireless brakes, profit!
  • + 5
 @mate1998: as someone who has recommended Greek yogurt as chamois butter, I’d love to try and pull that one over on someone!
  • + 4
 Complete conjecture here, but it looks like the hydraulic cylinder and all the mechanicals you'd need to service are in a cartridge accessed through the handlebar end. Seems like it would be easy enough to pop out and work on if designed right, and the extra space might allow a larger reservoir and larger piston seals under less pressure that could help lengthen time between bleeds.
  • + 49
 Very neat !
But 2 questions :
- the hole beneath the clamp seems to limit the adjustability in depth and angle of the lever, how to make sure your preferences are matching this system? I guess you also can't trim your bar to another length?
- if you crash into a tree (avoid it but... sh*t happens), how does the lever rotate since restricted by that hole?
  • + 14
 Also, in a crash situation an the bars turn to far an sever the hose....
  • - 33
flag RedRedRe (Jun 19, 2019 at 3:54) (Below Threshold)
 This is a silly idea. Don't even know where to start. First thing anybody should learn when building the bike is not to tight too much the brake lever clamp. Find out yourself why.
  • + 0
 @RedRedRe: the real interesting thing is the easy link like the formula supossedly did never saw one
  • + 7
 @RedRedRe: Actually it has always been Magura who recommended to leave the brake master clamp loose enough for it to swivel around in case of a crash. So that's what I'm doing too. However, in this case the hose doesn't reach the lever assembly. The lever assembly pushes the rod that drives the master piston. So indeed there must already be some slot in the handlebar for the link to pass through. Shouldn't be any random bar obviously as it takes quite something to be able to get away with holes in some critical areas. They do have their motorcycle bars so they probably know their stuff. I can't see it in the renders here but there should be something as they will allow you to adjust the brake levers. That, or it would be a one time job where you position the brake levers where you think they'd fit best and only then drill the bars. Not what I expect though, considering how people are still experimenting with bar width and brake master position and orientation. Either way, whether the brake levers snap in a crash or not, it won't be the hose that gets damaged.
  • + 1
 @donpinpon29: it exists in real and is given with some of their models. For instance my Cura have it, though sadly only at one side (caliper). It is also purchasable separately (found it on bike24 for instance) so you can retro fit-it.

Don't know why they're not pushing this more though
  • + 0
 @nojzilla:
Just don't crash.
  • + 7
 Yeah I'm also concerned about bar length adjustment... With this system it seems you have to have your bars and grips to line up with their pre-drilled holes. If you like your brakes further inbound? Good luck.
  • + 0
 @Lookinforit: there will be available a different bar/stem combo for every deg of rotation to cover everybody, also in 1.99mm width increments to sort you out when you are to fussy about bar width and also stem lengths from 28.99 to 89.99 to cover all disciplines, what a great idea!!!
So many r&d hours going to waste
  • + 4
 It’s a cool innovative idea but with drawbacks. My gripe is that all the illustrations show the rear brake line running cleanly through the headtube and down the downtube. But that’s not how it actually works (because the fork’s steerer tube blocks it). The rear brake line has to exit the bottom of the steerer tube, then make a quick, awkward bend up into a port to enter the downtube.
My guess, they designed the system into a frame, got super stoked, went to install a fork and were like, “Balls!” (or the German equivalent of that).
  • + 6
 Easy, if you crash you just bleed the frame.
  • + 2
 @DRomy: I wonder if there isn’t just a hole bored into the steerer tube? Def plenty of obstacles to overcome to basically solve a problem no one has while adding complication and cost. Not for me.
  • + 1
 Mobile edit: looks like both lines exit out the bottom of the steerer. :o Even worse
  • + 38
 Run brakeless if you don’t like cables.
  • + 3
 If brakeless trials is a thing, surely brakeless trail rides can be, too.
  • + 12
 cOAstEr brEAk rULE!!
  • + 1
 @MTBrent: I thought that's what "downhill' really means.
  • + 20
 if these use stupid T25 plastic bolts or self tapping screws into a plastic body i'm out..
  • + 2
 That is why I have Shigura brakes man.... fantastic...
  • + 9
 People cry so much about those plastic bleed screws on the lever. I mean it quite clearly says in the manual to torque them to a very low value. Just common sense
  • + 2
 Im the most ham fisted person I know but have never managed to strip these, but then again I dont use a 1/2 ratchet to do them up. Regardless swapped to shigura now.
  • + 1
 @Lagr1980: Yeah best brake setup I've ever had - M8000XT levers, MT7 calipers
  • + 1
 Put the impact down and everything will be ok.
  • + 3
 Anyone that manages to over torque the bolts on the Magura lever bodies and crack them is a hack mechanic.
  • + 2
 @shirk-007: plenty.. Ignorance is bliss
  • + 11
 Can someone please enlighten me how the rear brake line goes from inside the stem and steerer which is spinning in the frame, straight to the downtube/toptube as is shown in these photos???
  • + 3
 Look closely at the 1st and last picture and you can see that the rear brake line is routed through the steerer tube and only then enters the frame.
  • + 2
 It looks like it goes out beneath the steerer with front brake(outside frame) and then goes back to the default hose housing of the frame. So a barspin/crash will probably rip it
  • + 5
 Yeah, they did a nice job not clearly showing it, but basically they ran the hoses BMX style down the steerer tube. Just curious how that jives with the fork under full compression.
  • + 2
 No bar spins for you!
  • + 1
 @ninjatarian: My dj bike (Specialized P1, 2006) has a gyro for the rear brake and the front brake goes through the steerer too (Marzocchi DJ fork). Yeah I indeed left the front brake in place. It works just fine. Though of course that fork has only 100mm or so of travel and the cable guide on the fork lower is low. If the fork has more travel and the hose guide is high on the lower, it needs to make up for the slack between the bottom of the crown and that hose guide on the lower. So that may be more of an issue. Then again the amount of slack you see here in the picture excessive for the extended fork. When the hose goes through the steerer, with an extended fork the it could be nearly straight between crown and lower. Obviously making sure it clears the tire. But if you do it like that, the slack with the fully compressed fork won't be much of an issue.

As for the time being it will be an OEM setup only, it is the bike manufacturer responsibility to set it up properly.
  • + 2
 @BobLogiii: not even X ups by the looks of it
  • + 1
 You mean that blurry picture of a cable? Why does the CGI pic show it going directly in the downtube then?
@MoDingens:
  • + 2
 @coadymacmillan: The drawings/renders show it somehow staying inside the frame (going straight from the steerer into the downtube) but the picture of the bike at the top clearly shows the hose exit below the crown (from the bottom of the steerer) and then enter the downtube again.
  • + 8
 This is going to be even more fun to bleed!
I wonder if magura people ever crashed? Rotating the levers?

Like most german bike things, this is a valid ideas for bike paths.
German bike tech = belongs to commuters bike.

I would like to be able to service anything by myself and be able to hack some fix when I am in the middle of nowhere.
  • - 6
flag Milko3D (Jun 19, 2019 at 4:39) (Below Threshold)
 @RedRedRe Why would you go in the middle of nowhere with a just released product?
  • + 8
 I dont like internal gear routing let alone brake routing. Just from a maintenance time thing. if you are at a race do you want to be d1ckign around with feeding cables through stuff and re bleeding? nah me neither. banshee bikes have it right with external cable clips. maybe for the pros
  • - 1
 Maybe come to the race with the bike actually race ready? Wink I for one would not buy bike with external cables hanging off it like an ancient or shed-made low cost wallmart bike. I want it nice and clean, all inside. How often do I switch brakes? Never. How often do I replace shifter cables? Twice a year and with internal feeding tubes, it is actualy faster than those fancy channels you have on Canyons and new GTs with hundred different small screws. I can't wait for this kind of technology to become more thought out and widespread. I want my bars cable free.
  • + 9
 @lp130i: Yeah but in the real real world you will brake a leaver or have a failed dropped. this will happen between race runs and you want to swap out fix. external take 3 mins. internal will make it a 15-30 mins job.
  • + 6
 @lp130i: Turning up to a race weekend prepared is all well and good. But by the time you've smashed 10 runs during Saturday practice, you can only prepare for Sunday's race with what you have available. Which sometimes might be enough, sometimes not. If you don't have a bleed kit with you (because being forgetful can happen) then being able to swap a whole brake out with no bleeding could be the difference between racing or not.
  • + 7
 This is just disgusting on so many levels. They just created a handful of problems and headache for near zero benefit.

Foreseen problems: Cable rub on fork stanchion. Hydro hose kinks/damage at steerer tube any time a stem adjusted or while traveling. When raising or lowering stem height you’d have to disconnect the brake line, potentially having to re-bleed.

World Cup pro only setup with a mechanic that was willing to work extra hours for this setup only. Such a waste of resources. Spend less developing dumb stuff and lower prices and increase availability of product.
  • + 3
 I remember a similar caveman hivemindset on Pinkbike just a few short years ago pertaining to the advent of 29ers on downhill bikes (and 29ers in general). How about we let bike technology advance without bitching for once? It's not like this creates a new standard which trumps everything before it. It'll have an extremely low adoption rate at first anyways. I for one would love to see advances in things like the Pinion gearbox.
  • + 2
 @mkul7r4: I’m 100% for new innovative tech. Having owned and worked on fully integrated road bikes my opinion is this particular application is a poorly executed waste of time. Gearboxes, yes please, Trust linkage fork, cool. This is stupid. Just an opinion.
  • + 1
 @mkul7r4: This is not an advancement but a backwards step.
This technology should be reserved for pay by the minute city rental bikes.
  • + 5
 "design language of the frame"?!?! If you have to use a bullsh!t term like that to describe your product, it is probably because the product is also bullsh!t. This is the most complicated solution to a non-existent problem that I've seen since the Rollie Eggmaster.
  • + 1
 @robw515 : Indeed. Or, I'm illiterate. What you say and my illiteracy are both plausible.
  • + 2
 The choice of Crankbrothers wheels on that bike tell you everything you need to know about their intentions.
  • + 1
 @acali: I'm glad I wasn't the only one to notice that.
  • + 7
 Has been done before:
www.mtb-news.de/news/2019/05/03/stoll-t1-edition-clean-cockpit-bike

Nice look so, prefer external for service so
  • + 8
 I hardly call a company rolling out a similar, but also very different concept 1 month ago a situation of, “it’s been done before”.
  • + 2
 I knew id seen this bar/brake thing before. external lever like in the link works better in my head in regards to future proofing and repair/service
  • + 1
 Just I thought the same, this one is awesome
  • + 12
 We did. But we are far behind them when it comes to being ready for production. Even though our project is offers more adjustability. The Easy Link is something we definetly lack. Fantastic stuff.
  • + 3
 @Trickstuff: your concept bike is seriously -and I mean seriously- awesome. When are you guys going to show us some more about that mysterious rear shock?
  • + 1
 @Trickstuff: So you guys are also about to hide the reservoir into the bars and left out only the levers? Does it really need to run via drilled bars? Did you for example tried to run the cabling thru grips and then back into bars to avoid the holes that every second rider can be scared by?
  • + 2
 @southoftheborder: that shock is from Intend, not Trickstuff www.intend-bc.com/tech/shock
  • + 2
 @southoftheborder: Suspension is all Intend, which is a company owned by a former employee of Trickstuff.
  • + 1
 no brakes in bars for us Smile The idea with the grips is not a bad one, but the holes are actually not a huge problem if you add more layers around them. the guys at beast components and bike ahead ran all kinds of tests with those prototypes and the bars were as strong as your regualr enduro handlebar.
  • + 1
 @Trickstuff: thanks for your reply! I thought you don´t want to hide all the lovely work inside Smile
  • + 1
 @bok-CZ: Yup, too much eagerness to answer, too little coffee in my system this morning. Thanks!
  • + 3
 What....still has a hose, should be wireless by now, I was involved with electroyhdraulics for subsea intervention 15 years ago and do wireless now (fair enough it was a slightly different scale than on a bike, but should be possible by now!) Wouldnt want the battery to go flat or fail though. Couldnt imagine the DFMEA and the System Risk Analysis for that!
  • + 3
 Come on Magura let's go all the way. Those hoses being peed by the steerer tube still don't look good. Integrate the front hose with one of your forks! The fork can almost be the hose itself. The rear hose can also disappear if you create a 360º hydraulic interface system on the head tube. If you have all this time in your hands!
  • + 5
 this is a cool concept and it's nice to see someone trying it.... but it does seem like a million dollar fix for a 20 dollar problem
  • + 4
 I like everything about it. Except a bunch of things.
  • + 3
 I’m still trying to figure out that 20$ problem ... what is it exactly?
  • + 3
 They'd better make working and ergonomic brake levers first! I mean don't they get that a lot of people just use shimano levers with their brakes because magura levers are crap.
  • + 2
 What gets me is the amount of bullshit terminology being used to pad out the description then when you want to actually know specifics, the word "special" is used. hahaha! "characterized by unique integration solutions that further optimize the design and function of the already-proven Magura products."special holes" "special headset". Yep, tell us nothing then continue to tell us nothing.
  • + 1
 I heard someone in UK parliament berate the PM "The more you speak, the less you say"
  • + 2
 Can somebody explain how these wouldn't be an absolute nightmare to bleed? And the inability to rotate the lever on the bar is an absolute dealbreaker... people have different preferences on lever position. Taking away that choice on a premium product narrows the target market to an immeasurably small crowd.
  • + 2
 @techride I'd think that's why they are running an almost straight bar, so you could adjust to some degree from there.
  • + 5
 Love it! We had a chance to see it live already. Really well done.
  • + 1
 Hey man, your username is Trickstuff and your heart`s beating for Magura... You cannot be serious Smile
  • + 3
 Thanks!
  • + 5
 @Franzzz: for sure. another company does something cool, then we are not afraid to say so. This is super progressive stuff and Magura deserve to get props for it.
  • + 3
 @Trickstuff: yes, this is the respectful behavior between competitors.
Cheers
  • + 2
 @Trickstuff: you are classy! Very nice to see
  • + 1
 @DarrellW: thank you. Like many I wonder about the practical aspects. The effort behind the concept though is nice to see
  • + 1
 I'd like to take this opportunity to predict Magura releasing a fork that integrates that unsightly hose that is flapping in the breeze between the bottom of the steer tube and the fork arch. Certainly a bluetooth servo-actuated hydraulic brake is not too much to ask from Magura.
  • + 1
 Ok, uncluttering bars is cool but to me this does not looks good, regardless of problems with magura. Sure maybe slim down the systems and make them a bit less annoying but c'mon, with AXS how hard is it to route two brake cables. Even if i was in love with the looks id need a long term review with a lot of use.
  • + 1
 Every day i ride my 1997 Orange P7 RC35 DH forks to the train station im reminded of how far things have come from a road geometry with 2 inches of travel for DH to where we are now. Then I go out for a ride with my son and Im amazed that his entry level bike has hydraulic brakes and suspension that actually works and is reliable. It really wasn't a long time ago I was bleeding brakes several times a year and riding a pogo stick on the front and back (less than 10 years ago). Now my brakes dont need bleeding from one year to the next and my suspension is great.

So my view is there are two key points to remember

1. Innovation is good.
2. You dont have to buy it

I can remember when the internal combustion engine was still a bag of crap and unreliable and that was about 100 plus years after it was invented. Things are progressing a lot quicker for bikes and with a lot less investment. So we shouldn't stamp on new ideas IMO.

All that considered, even though I wont buy this, I like the idea of not ripping out brake and gear hoses/cables when I crash. So the sentiment of trying to solve that problem seems to be good.
  • + 1
 If we can have wireless shifting why not wireless brakes? Even tidier than a hose running through the stem and frame .. There's wireless throttles and steering on cars with feed back. Make it happen .. Its not hard I just don't have the cash to make it happen.
  • + 1
 interested to see more about how the cables through the steerer tube into the frame are gonna work, you would imagine that if you turned the handlebars too far it would cause a problem for the cable? The article didn't explain how that interface is going to work, please could you show more detail of that solution?
  • + 1
 1. I'm over here considering a Pole Stamina 140 because I like the Geo and almost equally so, the external routing of everything. As a guy who does his own wrenching I prefer external cable routing. 2. I believe those SQ Labs grips are installed on the wrong sides.
  • + 1
 I don't want to sound negative and I don't have a set opinion on this but in a way it may not make any sense, I mean : A bike is mostly a frame. A frame, just as the name says, is : A frame. On a car or most other vehicles, you've got the frame, then all the body panels attached to it to hide the technical stuff. With integrated cables, basically we're trying to use the frame as a rudimentary bodywork to hide everything underneath.
It takes a lot of holes here and there in structural parts just to hide a few cables.
Maybe another way to do it would be using a universal standard of easy plug-in interface and integrate metal tubing alonside (inside or outside) the tubes, connected by small flexible wires (10-20cm long) where needed (stem, BB), kinda like they do on earth moving equipment (IMO, the way a bike is build, the way form follows function, it's closer to an excavator than to a car), but it may make things heavier and intricate for no usefull reason, and getting all the brands to agree on said standard would be a mess.
  • + 3
 Braking News: The university of Harvard just invented the Internal Bicycle, a bike fully integrated into riders body for maximum crash protection and ergonomic.
  • + 1
 From a purely aesthetic stand point I think it looks awesome. I love a super clean cock pit. Although I have to imagine setup and service would be a nightmare on that. I'll stick to Shimano for now.
  • + 3
 I awoke the the soft cry of thousands of bike mechanics this morning- now I know why....
  • + 1
 Soft cry? Think $ signs. Customer's can't expect servicing this to be cheap.
  • + 2
 Why does everyone hate cables so much? I'd prefer to ditch a derailleur over a cable. I'm hoping gear boxes become a standard.
  • + 4
 Looks like a LEGO bicycle cockpit...
  • + 2
 Absolutely beautiful! Hey Scott this is why I will never buy one of your bikes too much junk on the handlebars FYI. I absolutely love clutter-free bars
  • + 1
 I don’t like Shimano ispec because i can’t put everything in the right positions. This will really fix your bar position, bar length and brake position. Suddenly adjustment is only made by buying new parts. Not good.
  • + 3
 From the looks, it seems, front tyre will rub on full compression.
AERODYNAMIC... @30km/h? Please...
  • - 1
 New tech for the sheeple to eat up. What does it do for the average Joe other than bleed their bank account? When a new tp spec mtb cost upwards of $7000 these days I'd expect the best of the best, not useless innovation like wireless shifting and this garbage.
  • - 1
 just maybe for XC people which is not crashing (pushing it enough)
because drilling 4 holes to handlebars and 2 holes to fork headtube? no thanks...
- to be honest, i did it on road bikes, but there are not so big G forces like on AM/EN bike , its nice that somebody doin the whole wireles stuff for droper, shifting, and hidden brake hoses, but no thanks, i will be scared to ride that bike hard in the forest...
  • + 3
 @MAGURA-DV You misspelled "first" as "fist" 4 times in this article.
  • + 4
 He kept getting his internet tabs mixed up.
  • + 2
 @ninjatarian: I wonder what his other tabs look like... hardcore firsting?
  • + 3
 A little bit late for an april fool...
  • + 1
 Looking at that fully exposed cockpit with no cables anywhere reminded me of my first time to a topless beach as a teenager. Just can't stop staring at its glory.
  • - 1
 So, if I get it right: fixed lever angle and drills/bores in the handlebar, stem, steer tube,... just... WHY? I can't imagine CG or SuperBruni asking them to do so.
And if that was the case, and with all those batteries already inside some bikes, why not going the servo way, you know: shift-by-wire, drop-by-wire, brake-by-wire, steer-by-wire....
  • + 1
 Brake by wire would give you zero feedback
  • + 1
 @Vulhelm: that's what the F1 and WRC drivers said and yet here we are.
  • + 3
 That's the most roadie shit, I've ever seen.
  • + 1
 Solves a problem I never know I had. Also it looks like quite some work to change your brakes ... wait a minute, maybe that is the plan! Sell a system that you can`t change.
  • + 4
 What? This is a stand-alone brake system. Why would you buy a set of brakes and then change out... your brakes?
  • + 0
 @ninjatarian: Maybe because you want different brakes and not be limited to just one model?
  • + 2
 @fiatpolski: That’s like saying the Syncros Hixon is bad because you can’t swap to a different stem - but that’s the entire point, and the thing you’re buying.

If you want different brakes, then this set of brakes isn’t for you.
  • + 2
 @ninjatarian: Agreed. Purposely buying a proprietary and fully integrated system and expecting component-level interoperability is... well... it's something.
  • + 3
 I stopped at “better aerodynamics”.
  • + 2
 Am I the only one confused by the fact that pretty much any brakes related video shows a bike NOT braking...
  • + 1
 What happens when you crash in your bars and wheel spin around? How do you know how many times they spun? Once? Twice? How do you know how many times to turn them back?
  • + 1
 Skip intergration, go straight to wireless, get the true on/off feel of your brakes such as the desired feeling of shimano brakes, when you can only turn them on and off
  • - 1
 IMHO, this is like crawler track on airplane. Fun but useless and dumb

Btw, what is going on with shift knob or dropper knob with this concept?

If manufacturers wants hoseless cokpit,
they can use wireless technologies, for example
  • + 2
 As a concept, this is killer. Clean, simple and protected. Obvious potential issues, but very clean idea.
  • + 1
 Enough of running lines of fluid inside frames. Go all electric already--a small servo to actuate the cylinder close to the brake calipers would be enough.
  • + 2
 Sorry but the front brake cable coming out the bottom of the steertube looks like shit.
  • + 2
 Wait until you realize the rear comes out there too...
  • + 2
 All the Euro comments on here. HAHAHAHAHA. You’ll broke anyways. Just make it in you’re garage.
  • + 1
 Considering how a large majority of PB posters can't handle operating Scribd, these might be a litte over the top.
  • + 1
 It there any lateral adjustment of the lever? Non-starter for many people without that.
  • + 2
 Meanwhile Scott has put an 11th cable on their latest Ransom...
  • + 1
 Easy Link looks promising... the rest looks like a bunch of holes and slots where you would least want them.
  • + 2
 is it just me or do i like bike external routed the whole way through
  • - 1
 Trying to fit an internally routed dropper on aluminium Commencal Meta AM 29 frame, I will NEVER EVER buy any frame without external routing option. Just f*nkg no! This is the worst idea EVER, by maketers, for dentists.
  • + 0
 I'm all for innovation that is not stupid .... too much stupid the last few years.
  • + 1
 Only good for people who internalize everything. Looks nice but No.
  • + 1
 Remember pneumatic shifting?
  • + 0
 i really don't like the looks of enduro mtb without cables in front. just need to cut and route them nicely
  • + 0
 im a sucker for clean look, fortunately this will way to expensive for me so ill save mysef the hasle of setup and bleeding
  • - 3
 That's pretty damn slick, It's a shame I had the WORST experience with brakes from Magura. My MT7s were absolute GARBAGE. I like this though, to bad the price for a clean cockpit like this is just as much as the rest of the bike.
  • + 6
 Do tell? I just mounted up some MT5 and my initially impression is good- modulation, for one, is phenomenal.
  • + 1
 @ninjatarian: They are good, as long as you don't have to change the brake pads and/or bleed them. Then the nightmare begins. Many of my friends are countless issues with them and all went back to shimano. One was convinced otherwise by the local Magura sales rep and gave them another chance as he said 2019 series resolved the issues, guess what, same problems and my friend really wasn't impressed. Changing pads should need you to open the expansion tank and redo a level bleed.
  • + 1
 @Balgaroth: Ah, the pad thing is fair- kind of silly. I think for me, if the performance maintains itself then the quirkiness of the maintenance might be worth it. I’ve been a dedicated Shimano guy for a while and really wanted to try something different. Time will tell.
  • + 2
 @Balgaroth: mt5/mt7 are tricky to bleed, but pad change is no hassle IMO.... the flimsy levers are the bad part.. bleed screw is easily destroyed by unfamiliar wrenchs at shitty LBS, and I've broken 2 levers crashing.. at the cylinder, totaled.... shimano zee/xt levers work perfect as replacement on both mt4/8 mt5/7 calipers
  • + 3
 Love my MT5's, replaced the Sram Code Ultimates that came on my bike for them. Never had to bleed them, have gone through a few pad sets already.
  • + 1
 @Lagr1980: pad change can be, if you wait too long it can also let some air in from the pistons. And if you push back your pistons too fast or too far you can snap the lever blader. All good reasons to not like them. And ye let's not talk about the lever made of plastic.
  • + 1
 I've used MT5s on my last two builds. I've never experienced an issue with bleeding after pad changes, my main complaint would be the OE pads wear pretty fast, but switching to Maguras semi metallic pads seemed to remedy that.
I did recently have a master cylinder fail (leaked at the piston by the actuator) but their customer service was excellent and I got a new lever in the mail two days after contacting them.

My other complaint is the lever shape and length. The MT5s don't have the options available that the MT7s have. I was able to adjust them and move the levers inboard to a point that I am comfortable with for single finger use.

Compared to bleeding any offering from SRAM the Maguras are significantly easier, not as easy as Shimanos, but I was able to get a solid bleed in about 10min during my master cylinder swap the other day.
  • + 1
 @ninjatarian: I had issues with them since day 1. The front I was able to bed in just fine and it was strong from the get go. However I could not get the rear brake to ben in very well at all, Lever power felt very weak and it couldn't get enough bite to bed in. So I did a bleed exactly as the instructions say. lever power felt better, but still wouldn't bed in. I even put my bike on a treadmill to ease the process...nothing. Called Magura and followed their instructions over and over. As I still rode the bike the power would fade in the rear brake over the course of each ride (about 45 min worth) to where the blade would pull to the grip with absolutely no power. After I had to bleed the rear brake after each ride, the bleed screw finally broke, and after the front brake lost all its power on a ride, I ended up crashing into a bundle of saplings on the trail, that was the straw that broke the camels back, I pulled them off the bike threw em in a box and replaced them with XT 4 pots.
  • + 1
 That is so slick, I love it.
  • + 1
 All fine but this handlebar has not enough rise....
  • + 1
 This is why I love mountain bikes it doesn't stop ___0^0___
  • + 0
 I might have missed it....but how does that rear brake hose get into the downtube from inside the headtube?
  • + 1
 NOOOOOOO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOO
  • + 1
 #ExternalRoutingAin'tDead
  • + 1
 Imagine the Bold Unplugged mtb with this handlebar set-up!
  • + 1
 I see a 'problem' solved but many more created...
  • + 1
 Sweet! I mean SWEEEEEET!!!
  • + 1
 too many cons, no pros...
  • + 1
 current T R A S H, future junk.
  • + 1
 damn it, I love Magura but this shit is waaaay too fashion
  • + 1
 Would be a nice aftermarket purchase for us SS, Rigid riders.
  • + 1
 Push this rather than E bikes all day long
  • + 1
 all I want to know is, can it barspin?
  • + 1
 "How many more holes does my bike need"...says a guy who has SWAT storage.
  • + 0
 A hydrualic tube and piston inside a handle bar. Don't bars flex .? Bend or snap your bar and you have no brakes as well.
  • + 1
 Yo you angry teenagers shut up, Magura take my money
  • + 1
 What bike is that?? I know I've seen it before.
  • + 2
 Rotwild R.X2
  • + 0
 This does look nice but my cockpit has six cables coming out of it and I would miss that.
  • + 1
 What about Lever placement and trimming your bars?
  • + 1
 When Hope makes it, I'll buy it
  • + 0
 Bleeding brakes in 2019 : 20e per brake
Bleeding brakes in 2020 : 200e per brake
  • + 1
 Well, bikes & parts are at moto/car price levels now so the service needs to catch up!
  • + 1
 how will it be more expensive?
  • + 2
 Jesus F*&$n Christ
  • + 1
 Super sick...cant wait to try em!
  • + 1
 bike mechanics everywhere are soooo excited
  • + 2
 This seems necessary
  • + 1
 Perfect for front bags, i have sram guides and are Sh#t for bikepacking.
f
  • + 1
 yeah... I'd have to see it
  • + 1
 This is a breakthrough for OCD
  • + 2
 No. Thanks
  • + 1
 Need those EasyClips !

About the complete integration : no, thanks.
  • + 1
 You still have exposed cables bro?
  • + 1
 What about the bike ? What is it ?
  • + 2
 Rotwild R.X2
  • + 1
 seems like you loose ALOT of lever position adjust-ability with this.
  • + 1
 A. The "design language of the frame"........
B. No thanx
  • + 2
 What no Bluetooth !!!!
  • + 2
 Pretty sick
  • + 1
 You can now fit your number board with ease!
  • + 1
 choices choices choices
  • + 1
 Seems barspin ready?
  • + 0
 They gonna cram a dropper cable into that somehow too?
  • + 8
 wireless dropper.
  • + 0
 This was the kind of thing that made me cringe back in my mechanic days
  • + 0
 Will is make me faster ??
  • + 6
 No but you will become more symbiotic.
  • + 3
 You’ll be a lot faster after you snap a brake line!
  • + 1
 Why?
  • + 0
 I'll wait for the SRAM Bluetooth version...said no one ever!
  • + 1
 #Iamsymbiosis
  • + 1
 WAFJ, 25.4 no doubt.
  • + 1
 It sure looks good
  • + 1
 Nice
  • + 1
 can you say HELL NO?
  • + 0
 2009 called said it needs it's 90mm stem back
  • + 0
 Does someone confirm how will the fluid cool down?
  • + 0
 Clean - maybe. Complete nightmare to work on - certainly.
  • + 0
 Just why?
  • + 1
 Simply because why not
  • + 1
 because germans
  • + 0
 KILL INTERNAL ROUTING
  • + 0
 So. Much. Nope.
  • - 2
 Nope, fuck that.
  • - 1
 april fool
  • - 1
 #SHIMANO4LIFE
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