First Look: Magura's Wireless Electronic Dropper Post - Eurobike 2015

Aug 25, 2015
by Mike Levy  

Vyron eLECT Seat Post

Magura knew that designing and manufacturing a cable operated dropper seat post would have been about as exciting as, well, any of the other countless air-sprung, cable operated posts on the market, half of which don't seem to last more than a few months before requiring some TLC. So rather than go that route, Magura did the exact opposite: they've come up with an electronic AND wireless dropper seat post that has the potential to make everything else out there look a bit behind the times.

The Vyron has 150mm of travel, with the rider being able to locate the seat anywhere between full mast and fully dropped thanks to its hydraulic internals, and an air spring set between 12 and 14 BAR (170 - 200 PSI) brings it back up. But it's how the 595 gram Vyron's travel is controlled that's the interesting part: a wireless remote on the handlebar communicates with a receiver on the post's head, and a push of the button while your weight is on the seat will drop it down through its travel. It will not go down on its own - the seat needs to be weighted, just like other posts out there. Another push of the same button will raise the seat back up.

Magura Vyron Details
• Travel: 150mm
• Wirelessly controlled
• ANT+
• Can pair with eLECT fork, shock
• Hydraulic internals
• Air sprung
• Forty hour run time
• Three hour charge time
• 30.9 and 31.6mm sizes
• MSRP: 400 EUR
Magura Vyron eLECT wireless electronic seat post


We've seen electronic and wireless dropper seat posts being shown at tradeshows in the past (KS had a prototype at the 2014 Taipei show) but the difference here is that Magura's Vyron eLECT post isn't vapourware that may or may not ever be available to buy, with Magura saying that it'll be ready for purchase in just a few week's time. MSRP is set at 400 EUR, which converts to about $460 USD straight across. That's not a small amount of money, but it is in the same ballpark as a Reverb, Thomson, or a FOX.


Magura Vyron eLECT wireless electronic seat post
The two-bolt seat post head is also home to the micro-USB charging port and the post's manual on/off switch.
Magura Vyron eLECT wireless electronic seat post
Unlike other wireless seat posts we've seen, the Vyron's head is actually pretty slim.



How The Vyron Works

The Vyron uses hydraulic internals, much like a lot of dropper seat posts out there, but Magura has employed a small piezoelectric motor to open and close the oil port that allows it to go through its travel. That might sounds like something from the future, but piezoelectric motors have been around for many years now. In fact, Magura has used the same principles, including the wireless ANT+ technology, within their eLECT line of suspension forks and shocks, so this is far from new to the German company. The built-in battery is claimed to last forty hours, and although Magura admitted that they didn't know exactly how many times the post could be activated before the battery runs low, it wouldn't be out of line to assume that it could be months of riding when you consider that you wouldn't be constantly pushing on the button all ride. When the time does come to charge it up, the job is done in three hours via a micro-USB port on the post's head.

Magura have also built-in a failsafe feature that allows the post to function for twenty more times after the battery is very close to dead, with the warning sign being a red light coming up on the remote. This should be more than enough to get anyone out of the bush, especially given that the Vyron will simple stay in place when the battery does expire, not sink down in its stroke.


Magura Vyron eLECT wireless electronic seat post
The ANT+ eLECT remote can be used to control the fork, shock, and seat post.
Magura Vyron eLECT wireless electronic seat post
An eLECT Magura shock on the back of a Commencal.

The remote itself doesn't look all that ergonomic compared to more traditional setups on the market, but it doesn't seem like it would interfere with things if a rider was running a single chain ring setup and mounted the remote on the lefthand side of the 'bar. The ANT+ system also means that there won't be any confusion from your buddy's remote controlling your seat post, as amusing as that would be, and the 'pairing' between the post and the remote is done by holding the buttons down on both for eight seconds.

You might have spotted three buttons on the eLECT remote, with it sporting two arrows and one circular button in the center. The latter controls the seat post: push it while the seat is weighted and the post will lower until you unweight it, much like other hydraulically controlled posts. Push it again while you're standing and the seat comes up at a decent speed, although not as quick as a Command Post or a D.O.S.S., and there's also a 1.5 second delay function that allows the rider to stop and lock the post at any point in its travel by using their ass to hold it for a second and a half anywhere between fully dropped and fully extended.

Magura is thinking even bigger than a seat post, though, as the same eLECT remote can also be paired up to control compression functions of both their eLECT equipped forks and shocks. That mean that a rider can use this one remote to firm up their fork, lock out their shock, and lower or raise their seat post.


230 Comments

  • 498 15
 Do you want to come for a ride?

Sorry I can't, my dropper post got a virus and my rear shock is out of battery..
  • 60 7
 Software Updates will be a pain
  • 47 4
 'Ah! A descent, finally - let's just drop the post - this ones up, so this is down, nope that locked out my shock, it must be this one...AHHH!!' This would be me. I'll stick to my single button dropper and shock lockout on the shock itself.
  • 86 2
 Just download it from torrent.
  • 88 1
 It will be sick if you can have the master remote or reset the frequency and bounce people up just for fun.
  • 30 3
 @lukachadwick why so pessimist? 'ah! a descent, single push of a button, seat goes down, shock and fork open up. Wink
  • 48 2
 what if it runs out of ANTs?
  • 4 0
 And if i want to update the firmware, there's still only beta version.
  • 18 2
 Can i change Channels on my 4k tv with This ?
  • 23 2
 Skynet is coming for us, be carefull with this
  • 15 1
 This is actually a really good idea. Could you use one of those recharging sticks instead of removing the post and taking it to your computer? That way I could use the recharging stick to charge my helmet light and my dropper!
  • 2 20
flag wpk567567 (Aug 25, 2015 at 6:29) (Below Threshold)
 hahhahaha????
  • 16 4
 just riding along.............and some ass hat hacks into my post with a baby monitor and ends my ride. ew.
  • 7 4
 Come with facebook app?
  • 11 4
 Charge the bike up before a ride? Pass.
  • 37 2
 What is this, a dropper post for ants ?!?
  • 8 10
 Just no...
  • 6 0
 Can't wait for the days I'm gonna take my seatpost and saddle to home and plug into my computer after a Sunday ride.
  • 12 1
 Buffering.
  • 23 0
 The remote looks like a garage door opener.
  • 75 9
 you guys are nuts! If the thought of a wireless dropper post (if it works well) doesn't excite you, then you have never installed a dropper post before.

It runs for 40 hours which means most mortals would have to charge it once every 1-2 months, and with ANT+ ain't nobody hacking into your seatpost (no one cares about your seatpost).

Embrace the future!
  • 25 4
 @Neverlost The thought of anything at all on my bike that runs on electricity makes me sad. I understand that not everyone is the same but for me that is not what bikes are about.
  • 4 3
 time to start dirt jump or bmx
  • 15 1
 I really don't get why people are so neophobic about this. It seems like great innovation to me (although I agree with @saxman2324 about the garage remote bit). When companies like Cannondale, Bionicon, e.t.c included remote everything, I remember hearing people moan about the mess of cables coming from the bars....well...this/the eLECT system offers a solution to this.
Also - comments about the chore of having to charge electronically assisted parts too - how is having to do this once every month or couple of months any more taxing than having to give your bike a quick once over and clean every couple of months? Surely this would just fall right in with your existing routine a lot easier than the sceptics think?

There's obviously a market for this stuff or else Magura wouldn't waste their time. I personally wouldn't be an early adopter but I'm still interested to see how this (currently) niche market develops!
  • 2 6
flag jefftrancex1xtr (Aug 25, 2015 at 9:46) (Below Threshold)
 You went OTB ! Yeah someone hacked my Wirelessly controlled seatpost !
  • 11 1
 If it comes up as fast as the Specialized Command Post, then that would be some funny shit to hack.
  • 7 0
 scroll straight to comments, did not dissapoint..... lol
  • 8 0
 This may well be the first Magura product I'd actually want to have on my bike..
  • 2 2
 Your name is worthy to you mortal....
Does mother know you wear her drapes..?
  • 14 1
 Then don't buy it. In 5 years when all the droppers are electronic and cheaper/ lighter / work better than the mechanically actuated ones, you can be "happy" yours is still mechanical. And anyway, what are bikes "about?" As soon as something electronic is involved, it ruins the essence of riding a bike? Please. If everyone had that mentality mountain bikes would still be road bikes with slightly larger tires.

I understand frustration with new standards and not fixing something that isn't broke (pressfit, boost, Etc) but innovation like this is only a good thing.
  • 2 0
 @madmon lol@baby monitor
  • 13 0
 I have to replace or adjust my droppers cable at least every 40 hours. Seems plugging in a charger would be easier..
  • 2 5
 didn't read the article, when I saw -"Wirelessly controlled", immediately lost interest.

saxman2324 - exactly my first thought.

zede - I am already on bmx, started one month ago on a pump track with a 16 years old GT bike that works perfectly, as good as my two new mountain bikes, cheaper and easier to maintain... but mountain bike in general is so much better to practice, there is no way to compare sports.
  • 2 2
 Jajajajjajajaja
  • 5 1
 People are always in a hurry to criticize any new trend or technology. I'm with you on this one, I think it's great.
  • 3 0
 I always wonder why they can't successfully do this with brakes-
  • 3 1
 Cmon now.... bluetooth brakes?¿ think a little harder next time
  • 2 0
 @chyu Considering the amount of times I've had to repair my ANT+ powermeter at races and accidentally paired with somebody else close to me it wouldn't be hard to mess with people at all!
  • 1 0
 Why are you just now starting?
  • 139 5
 Actually the dropper post is a part on my bike where i would like to go electric, just because its wireless. Makes it all clean and easy to install. And most importantly a dropper post is not as crucial that i could not make it home if running out of power
  • 31 7
 This is what I was thinking too. I have nothing against electric components. They are innovation in the right direction.
  • 24 3
 Pretty much spot on. If the electronics on a shifter or suspension failed during a ride, that would pretty much ruin the ride. If the electronics on a post fail, you are back to having the same post you would have had 4 years ago anyway. Ride on. The small risk is worth the significant reward of no cables to deal with. In this case, bring on the electronics.
  • 9 32
flag Apostt (Aug 25, 2015 at 6:20) (Below Threshold)
 Try to ride 20 km back to home with your "pedallable" enduro bike after you ran out of charge when the seat is fully dropped. You would wish to have a blown fork or shock instead, trust me.
  • 19 1
 You can still raise it in the seat tube sometimes.
  • 9 0
 needs an induction charger
  • 20 2
 If you know its dying and you have 20 more adjustments, choose your route accordingly
  • 2 1
 Or a magnetic interface like a macbook. but that would up cost a bit, which is probably why they went with something standard.
  • 1 1
 @groghunter Good idea though I think MagSafe is patented/protected by Apple.
  • 2 1
 Thus the increase in cost(licensing the tech.) however, it's possible that you could implement it differently & engineer around the patent, it's really case by case, based on how the patent was written. It's unlikely they were able to protect using a magnetic connector to deliver power in all applications, as that is generally too broad to be considered valid, especially for such a common sense idea.
  • 5 1
 @Apostt It turns on a warning light when it's about 20 uses from death, so you can raise it up and turn it off.
  • 6 1
 for those that have multiple bikes and only enough budget for 1 post, this is almost a dream!
  • 6 1
 actually yeah - i have three bikes I run, and I'd love to just have one post. moving it around, sans cables, would be easy and quick... damn. I think I may be an early adopter of this one...
  • 2 0
 The stealth has been good but maintinance is a pain in the ass so the versatility of the cable-free would be most welcome. However, it's always the question of if that improvment will be worth the added cost and new complications associated with new technology and new functions. I'm wondering if the mechanism that lifts the seat post will be more efficient and better contained without requiring action strung through housing (whether cable or hydro).
  • 45 1
 It's smart and simple and de-clutters things a bit. Now just provide an ergonomic button to push instead of that Star Ship Enterprise controller.
  • 41 0
 only 400$?? Racefece have a problem
  • 18 0
 400 Euros = 458 US Dollars. Still cheaper than the Turbine post lol
  • 6 0
 Its still expensive but i kind of see why here but the race face is just stupid
  • 36 1
 Thats awesome! One post for different bikes. So you can have only one dropper post and one saddle for more than one bike. That makes it pretty cheap!
  • 7 0
 Ohhhhhh...I didn't think about that. That's true! This actually saves a ton of money if you have multiple bikes!
  • 3 0
 Good idea, I don't imagine they were thinking that, but it definitely makes sense if you have the same seat post size. Now you can have a dropper for your All mountain, XC, Enduro, Mountain errr .. ok, perhaps they're all the same.
  • 3 1
 Usually they are 30.9 or 31.6 so just buy the 30.9 and have a shim for the 31.6.
  • 1 0
 Looked for a shim..but can't find one I did the same as said above. One post for both my banshees. The other two are 30.9 so I need a second post Razz
  • 23 2
 Looks great, except unless it hasn't got the sealing of a nuclear bunker, in which case it would last exactly 0.6 rides in any northern hemisphere climate.
  • 5 0
 Was thinking the same thing. That flimsy cover does not look PNW - proof.
  • 3 0
 Or New England proof. Or anywhere proof for that matter... that thing should have a completely waterproof sealed housing.
  • 2 0
 I have a feeling that an update to that is in the cards, but they just wanted to get pictures out there.
  • 4 1
 Water is a pretty terrible conductor, unless you're holding it underwater, i'm sure it will be fine.
  • 19 1
 If RockShox made a stealth 150mm in 30.9 the world would be a better place, simple
  • 3 0
 X-Fusion make a 150mm 30.9 SLS. Mine has been flawless for almost a year, albeit im not using their BAT lever i use a bastardised XT shifter.
  • 3 0
 get a LEV
  • 1 0
 Im getting the ks lv ti 30.9 150mm. The reviews are solid on it. Expensive but worth it
  • 17 0
 now that we have power, add some vibra thingy and u have a...massage kinda thing
  • 15 2
 I really like it, also how it can be combined with the suspension. Also surprised how this piece of future is still in the same price category as many other seat posts. Still to expensive for me though, but I do like what they are doing at Magura!
  • 14 1
 That would actually be pretty cool if it were paired with the fork and shock too and when you dropped the post it opened up the compression on the suspension too so you were in full decent mode. When the post went up the suspension got firm so you could climb better.
  • 16 5
 PATENT THAT IDEA NOW. OR I'LL PATENT IT FOR YOU AND WE SPLIT PROFITS 80/20 ME/YOU DO IT BITCH
  • 8 4
 f*ck IT I'LL PATENT IT MYSELF 99/1 ME AND YOU, THANKS FOR THE IDEA MATE!!
  • 13 0
 @Theeo Jesse is that you?


I didn't realize Meth heads bike
  • 5 7
 omg, it's Enduro!!!!
  • 6 0
 Hey!, I made this account before enduro was cool.
  • 3 1
 Enduro, why was I neg propped?! :'((
  • 3 1
 IDK, I didn't do it.
  • 3 1
 well someone neg propped you... but I thought we could have been friends Frown
  • 15 1
 And the pitchforks and torches are out in the numbers as expected....
Are these the same folk who poo-pooed the idea of dropper posts to begin with? Big Grin
  • 14 3
 Step 1: figure a way to hack your buddys dropper post and shock. (The CIA has been hacked so this shouldn't be to hard)
Step 2: Ride behind your buddy with the wireless dropper and shock. (Make sure gopro is on)
Step 3: wait till your buddy is going down a really tecnical section. (Preferably a section with rocks and roots)
Step 4: via app, initiate hack (adjust settings to full lockout for the shock and full extention for the dropper)
Step 5: watch your buddy go over the bars and crash. (Act shocked and assist him if needed.. you are buddies after all)
Step 6: repeat multiple times over the season ( he might catch on if you do it 15 times in one ride... or die)
Step 7: make youtube epic fail video and bask in the glory
  • 3 5
 I'm sure it will be ez too hack. Just like cars can be hacked and remotely controlled, housing appliances. ..anything that is smart/the internet of things etc isnt secure. But this probably won't be worth the time to figr out.
  • 10 2
 Its a joke....
  • 1 0
 Would certainly make for a great taint smacker!
  • 12 2
 Now this is worth $400. Not that cable actuated stuff. I mean I can get a reverb at $300 at least, why the f*ck would I get a $400 cable actuated post? I'd rather get an electronic one at $400
  • 1 0
 Well, that would be better than the T brand I guess..
  • 15 7
 "Magura have also built-in a failsafe feature that allows the post to function for twenty more times after the battery is very close to dead, with the warning sign being a red light coming up on the remote. This should be more than enough to get anyone out of the bush, especially given that the Vyron will simple stay in place when the battery does expire, not sink down in its stroke."

How is that a fail safe? That's not a fail safe, it's just a warning light. Basically you better stop using it when that light comes on, or you have to make sure that you've precisely counted the 20th movement, and used it to set the seat at about half travel.

A fail safe would be a mechanical lever to allow it to manually operate in the event of a drained battery, like the one on a KS drop zone.
  • 60 2
 I guess that failsafe is that it won't lower or raise through its travel if the battery were to die - my bad, not worded correctly at all. The ability it for it to work for 20-ish more times after the red light comes on is a good thing. I've never had any warning before snapping cables on my mechanical dropper posts.
  • 3 0
 I also never get a warning when my Contact 2 cartridge shits the bed in the middle of a ride, which it has done more then I'd like to admit.
  • 2 0
 I can still drop my KS if the cable snaps but its externally routed so there's that slight annoyance of having the cable running out to it.
  • 7 0
 The only meaningful innovation that can come for dropper posts is one that doesn't require rider weight to go down. Not all of us have 1hr climbs before a long descent. We have rolling terrain, short ups and downs, and having to weight the seat to lower it isn't practical.
  • 1 0
 yes, this is what I need for my trails and never saw anyone talking about.
  • 7 1
 If you haven't figured out how to successfully place your weight on your seat to make it go down maybe this sport is too difficult for starters?
  • 1 0
 Yeah, I figured that one out in about 10 minutes. I find that since I'm already sitting on it while it's up, the seat drops quite readily when I press the button. At that point, now that I've learned to keep my feet on the pedals at all times it's really a pretty simple matter to stand back up.
  • 1 0
 Guys, it depends a lot of the sport and trail you ride. I use to ride a trail that demands too many different body positions in few seconds. Trust me, when I ask for a dropper post with that resource I am not just nagging about the bike industry. I ride for years and that is fine if this product never come to exist, I can live without this, but would be nice if some company could offer a reliable model.
  • 1 0
 We have short steep climbs and descents. Most times I come off a climb I am out of saddle not lazily spinning to the top and having to sit just to drop the seat to get it out of the way and then standing up again to ride the upcoming section is inconvenient for me.

Great some of you don't find this to be an issue. I do…. even after my 25+yrs on a bike (@xCri )
  • 4 0
 @Magura, if it is possible ofc, you can upgrade the design with a remote up/down controller, two buttons or another controller. However, i think it is rather impossible with air spring that must be weighted to go down. Props for design, it's a big step forward.
  • 4 3
 I've been wanting this forever! I hate having to sit all the way down and then stand up before a descent. Maybe it's because I'm tall that I notice it more but it's a pain in the knees. Yes I'm spoiled and should just be happy that droppers even exist etc but I'll still bitch lol. If shimano can make an electronic derailleur move up and down then the same basic principal should be possible on a dropper.
  • 1 0
 You're right, but another kind of dropping/rising mechanism is needed. Some mechanical, or hydraulic, dunno, maybe someone will get the ide and employ it in some product.Air-sprung dropper isn't technically possible to move down without a weight that push the spring.
  • 3 0
 I've been waiting for that ks post since I first saw the review. I eventually bit the shit sandwich of accepting I'll have to have another cable to the bars, and ordered a ks lev dx, which I have not yet taken delivery of. Imagine my dismay at reading this review! NoOOOOOooo!
  • 11 6
 "I really need a dropper post that's both heavier and more complicated than a reverb, with a shitty remote and no convenient way to charge" said no one ever
  • 10 0
 "I really need a dropper post that's permanently attached to your bike without disconnecting a hydraulic cable, one that needs to be bled and one that stops working if it's significantly warmer out than it was when you bled it."
  • 4 1
 Maybe focus on making droppers more reliable before you start worrying about new ways to get rid of the cables. I haven't been able to ride one for more than a few months before it failed- both reverbs and a lev -and needed some service/rebuild beyond a bleed.
  • 2 0
 Exactly. The biggest problem in the industry wide dropper design is the reliance on an air spring, when a lightweight coil would do the trick and be more reliable. No-one in the industry (aside from Chinese manufacturers) is challenging Gravity Dropper, and I'm yet to understand why. The Gravity Dropper is the lightest dropping seatpost on the market (except maybe the short drop carbon Lev C), and if it included a cable or hydraulic actuated locking mechanism similar to 9point8's or Thompson's system it would have the full range of extension that normal dropper use. The low-pressure air spring employed by 9point8 and Easton is probably the closest thing to a reliable design, but it too has seals that will eventually fail. And no, the 2 year service interval on your Thompson is not what I'd call reliable, especially compared to the 5+ intervals of the Gravity Dropper.
  • 4 0
 Why the hydraulics? Why not a simple spring and collar lock? A servo can activate the thing and keyed path can keep it pointed the right way. No seals needed beyond a dust wiper. Grease it once a year and done!
  • 2 0
 Interesting, good idea - my reverb hose does my head in buzzing in my rear wheel under full compression. Not sure about that remote though. I think it's going to be a bit of a fiddle when you're riding full chat and it's RIGHT next to two other buttons.
  • 2 0
 I like the idea of getting ride of the hose and not bleeding my reverb. If you think of it 40 hrs of use is a lot of rides. let's say if you ride an average of an hour, some longer some shorter, that is 40 rides right there. If you need to charge it on the go it's simple enough to take out and plug it in a wall or car charger with that port. Plus if it happens to die in the up position my thoughts on the way down would be let some of the air out and just like your fork/shock it would go down. Voila work done for the day I need a beer.
  • 1 0
 most other posts dont need a hose bled
  • 2 0
 I must say this is quite exciting, no more routing issues, simpler service, less cluttered cockpit. Way to go Magura! This is the most exciting new bike part I have seen all year! Can't wait to see it at Interbike......you guys better bring it to Interbike!
  • 4 0
 I feel so behind the curve with my 26in alum 135qr xc-HT running a coil DJ fork, Shimano 1x9 and a no dropper...well at least its reliable!
  • 4 0
 The dropper is cool, but suspension lockout is moot. Also that ugly remote is doomed, give me a small low profile button for dropper only and I'm in.
  • 2 0
 Electronics on a dropper post is kind of stupid. Of all things on a bike, this is the component that demands utmost simplicity for reliability. We need a bombproof, reliable, self-servicable option, not a electronic toy that will break and require shipping/waiting/spending more money to fix.
  • 4 0
 Why does only have 150 travel they shloud make atleast 3 choices of travel 100, 125 and 150.
  • 4 0
 It can be stopped at any height in its 150mm of travel so you have more than 3 choices.
  • 3 4
 yes, but I don't want to have to find my top pedaling position by floating on it, & the post going, in my case, 50mm higher than I need it to be(I'm short & need 100mm droppers) I actually am going to start worrying about the seat hitting me in the ass. They literally lost a sale here, as I'm buying a dropper in the next week, but I would wait for this, since I can't run a stealth, & this would keep me from having to run another cable.
  • 2 0
 I like the idea of no cables but this post still relies on hydraulic internals, which is in no way an innovation, and also hydraulic internals have proven to be heavy and unreliable in most other seat posts.
  • 4 0
 Why is there not a button to drop it completely w/o weighting it? THAT would be innovation.
  • 1 0
 So far the hydraulic remote of my Stealth A2 has been the most reliable part. The actual post needed to be bled once. Although I like to see this new idea, it doesn't solve that issue or offer any functionality beyond the Stealth, it's basically the same. How about an innovation like say more travel or reduced complexity? I would like to ditch my remote hose, but I wouldn't trade it for a battery.
  • 1 0
 If this works as intended like the wireless doesn't f@ck up, the seals get the crud out of the internals, keep the price low, then looks like its a reverb killer or any other dropper seatpost for that matter coz who wants to pay for $400+ and have cables vs one that's wireless?
  • 1 0
 Interesting idea but with a one by drivetrain and internal cable routing is having the same number of cables you did five years ago really that big of a deal? Four cables? Is that really that much worse than two if a company routes them well like say Santa Cruz? Just seems like something else I'll forget to charge, like my go pro or my phone.

Also if you need all the suspension adjustments on your bars get a better peddling suspension platform. I've demo'd several ~160 travel descent oriented bikes that all pedal just fine with the suspension fully open. Only time I'd even turn the rear shock to climb would be to do a long road climb.
  • 4 0
 Now I'm gonna have to buy a new frame to plug the unnecessary holes in my old 2015 frame.
  • 4 0
 Reason I enjoy biking so much?
dirt, rocks, roots, sweat, scars, buddies, tangible mechanics

NOT electronics
  • 3 1
 but you're being FORCED to buy one--what will you do???
  • 3 2
 Am I the only one that doesn't give two flying shits about internally routed cables? I let that cable be seen with honor. It's a symbol of simplicity, fortitude, and freedom. Can I get a hell yeah? *pounds beers* #merica #becausestonecoldsaidso
  • 1 0
 hell yeah, mountain bike must to look exactly like that.
  • 1 0
 Maybe the frames will have cables included and plugs. You mount and plug shimano di2 (and future SRAM?), fork, seatpost, cadence sensor, bike computer ... Everything powered with one single battery in the seatpost tube (or wherever).
No ANT action.
Maybe... Who knows.
Ok. Everybody is doing his own things. Cooperation? WTF!
  • 1 0
 Would be awesome if it went down without weighting the seat, but I can still see the benefits. No cables, no need for internal routing on the frame... And I'm surprised it's not more expensive than other droppers.
  • 2 0
 Would buy immediately if the controller didn't look like something from the 90s. Still surprised by thid massive lack of wireless droppers on the market.
  • 4 0
 I wanna know who's dropping €400 on a Reverb
  • 1 0
 For that matter, FOX DOSS aren't just on sale all the time, FOX literally cut the MSRP when it wasn't selling. So it's official price is around $325, which is a long way from $460.
  • 1 0
 I kept trying to tell rockshox and KS that if they want to stay on the cutting edge, they need to add a feature to their dropper posts that has a 1.5 second delay. But did they listen to me?
  • 1 0
 with all the electronic bikes gear, can there please be a decent durable power bank, which can cope with a splash of water and a few drops, as one of those could save your neck if you forget to charge before going out.
  • 2 0
 Rumor has it that an electrical short can cause unexpected stimulation during seated riding. Not sure if this wood be good or bad.
  • 3 0
 i heard it also updates Strava automatically about your dropping points. WOW!
  • 2 0
 Im gonna have to get my electric service upgraded at my house to handle all the additional USB chargers for all the various compnents on my bike for the upcoming years !
  • 1 0
 Theres a special feature, if u feel u need a little extra kick, little red button on the side directs the voltage right up to ur arse... Works best when raining, guaranteed to pedal faster
  • 5 2
 This will definitely give their competition a shock!
  • 4 0
 I'm not really sure if this will drop the competition, but it may raise the bar.
  • 2 3
 With all these electronic parts being introduced there is one design that should be made standard, and that's a battery that can be detached for charging purposes. It's not always going to be easy or convenient to get a bike to an outlet. Consider being on a road trip and needing to charge the seat post while driving - what are you going to do, run the power cord out the window and up to the roof rack?
  • 12 1
 Or maybe you could take the seatpost off and put it in your car???
  • 5 1
 Unrooted you absolute genius
  • 3 5
 You need to think big picture. Batteries will be needed for your dropper, shifter and suspension. You wanna take your whole bike apart? How about when some company, like say Specialized figures out a way to internally house the battery in the down tube? Then what's your plan?
  • 5 2
 Take the battery out and charge it in my car.
  • 2 1
 @iam808 it takes one allen key to remove my seatpost. Not the end of the world pal
  • 3 1
 @iam808 Shimano's had a battery in the downtube for quite a while now.
  • 2 1
 Unrooted - "Take the battery out and charge it in my car." Right, you agree with me then, batteries on bikes should be detachable.
  • 1 0
 The name explains the price and all the tech crammed into one product, now lets hope it has as much horsepower as its namesake suggests!
  • 2 0
 Any time I can route one less cable, or avoid one less hydraulic hose shortening/maintenance/etc, I am a happier biker.
  • 1 0
 it should charge itself as you drop and raise the post, same thing with shifting, and suspension control, then I will think electric crap on a bike will be cool.
  • 1 0
 That 'remote' looks like it was designed way back in the early 90s. I, for one, will wait on for forum posts "my dr0pper got h4x0r3d, halp!!"
  • 1 0
 I think the best part of this is having a button instead of a lever. I get my shorts caught on my Giant's dropper post lever sometimes. This looks like it eliminates that.
  • 3 0
 ...But why does the remote have to look like a cyclometer from the 90's???
  • 1 0
 is the operation of the buttons reversible so the remote can be used on the left or right side of the bar, must say the remote is a bit old looking though
  • 2 0
 Shut up and take my money, thats awesome device, the only disadvantage - uber ugly control
  • 1 0
 In Soviet Russia dropper post drops you!!! It's only a matter of time before someone creates an app to remotely control one of these things, Enduro shenanigans here we come.
  • 2 0
 I don't want electronics any where near my mtb and I will never pay for it.
  • 3 0
 i use electronics on my bike a lot, gps and bike lights , lights i find are quite handy in the dark, as candles keep getting blown out
  • 2 0
 my electroics gone wild. now may balls are hurting.
  • 4 1
 400€ ?




no
  • 2 1
 They should get a small gps in there as well to map the ride and find the bike in case of theft
  • 3 0
 SO much yes. Big Grin
  • 1 0
 Queue the "This is what the bike industry needs! Innovation not new standards!" comments.
  • 2 1
 I like Magura. But wireless dropper seatpost? Just give me my Thomson Elite.
  • 3 0
 looks good
  • 2 1
 I want a post that I can operate by twinkling my nose like Tabetha on I dream of Jeanie.
  • 6 0
 You might want to brush up on your late '60s sitcom knowledge.
  • 1 0
 How do you twinkle your nose
  • 4 0
 Bewitched not I dream of Jeanie
  • 3 1
 F*** Da Police. Im buying one
  • 1 0
 Hears/watches Straigh Outta Compton once...
  • 2 2
 - Hey, come on, drop in buddy !!
- ... 10 min
- but ???
- " Please do not get off or put down your bike. Installing update 2 of 5."
  • 3 1
 this is for a small and little market..not for real riders!!
  • 2 0
 I'm not putting anything electric on my bike. period.
  • 1 0
 okay.
  • 2 0
 Cool, but is there an option compatible with the Clapper?
  • 2 0
 need to invent a wireless seatpost jammer for enduro'ing
  • 1 0
 So the one part they managed to replace (the cable) is the only one that doesn't brake every two months. Order me one today!
  • 2 0
 Wonder if it has an auto-Choda massage setting?
  • 2 0
 At full extension, for "livening" up the fire road climbs. Available with an optional flesh-colored saddle.
  • 1 0
 Lift ticket to Whistler $60, Magura Vyron eLECT $458, hacking your friends dropper post...priceless
  • 1 0
 oil+batteries+motor+ wireless signal= Reverb's worst nightmare when it is sleeping at night....
  • 3 1
 *goes through puddle* *water splashes seat post* *gets electrocuted*
  • 1 1
 they lost me at actuator design. it looks worse than the stuff my wife uses now on her post since I became a full time wanker
  • 1 0
 wait until crank brothers bring out a electronic post..... it will stop working on the first ride then electrocute you .....
  • 1 0
 I'm not an enthusiast of electronics when it comes to MTB, but Magura guys are making it hard not to find it interesting...
  • 1 0
 Long as its priced in the range that non electric droppers are, I'd be game to try it.
  • 2 1
 I hope that's one mighty fine dust cover for the charging port
  • 9 0
 I wouldn't worry about that. Similar rubber cap covers the charging port on my five year old Garmin that's been through hell and back - no issues.
  • 11 0
 @ Mike - ah, but from what I've read on here your version of "hell and back" appears to be dry dusty trails with nary a hint of mud. ;o)
  • 2 1
 Bravo Magura! The wireless future is near
  • 1 0
 When will the phone app be available to tune it mid ride?
  • 2 0
 Gravity dropper?!
  • 2 3
 What if a bunch of guys in the same group ride have these dropper posts ? will there be wireless interference between units ?
  • 5 0
 With ANT+ it is very unlikely you would be running the same code as someone else, Garmin uses it, it is in most smart phones and is very reliable. more secure than bluetooth.
  • 2 0
 There shouldn't be an issue with other ANT+ transmitters, but it's actually quite easy to 'hack' into if you know what you're doing, as ANT+ is transmitted over a 2.4 GHz band and most droid cellphones are now ANT+ supported. These are supposedly better systems and look where it got Chrysler: www.wired.com/2015/07/jeep-hack-chrysler-recalls-1-4m-vehicles-bug-fix Probably won't happen for your seatpost but the fact is it's not foolproof technology and who knows what will happen in racing once road has ant+ systems doing the shifting and some overzealous fans have the knowledge and a cell phone to mess with soandso on that climb....
  • 2 2
 What are the odds..
  • 2 1
 Odds of what? Signals getting crossed? Low. Some dweeb hacker doing what makes their life fun and a riders miserable? Who knows, but don't be surprised if it happens. It's not hard to get into ANT+ or bluetooth signals to actually hack and very easy to jam either with handheld devices (you can make your own). Not an issue when it's you and your mates putting around the woods, but could be an issue if a team on the tour is using wireless signals to shift as all it would take is a decently powerful jammer (can jam 2.4Ghz no prob) that costs $500 and the system wouldn't work until out of that jammers range. May sound crazy but relying on wireless signal to shift is even crazier.
  • 4 0
 Odds of more than one person having an electronic dropper on the same ride. Aka all your buddies own one too. And if you're replying to my other post.. it was a joke so eat my ass...
  • 1 1
 I'm clearly not replying to any of your other posts, didn't even read them. Yes, the odds are low.

Also, this is Matt isn't it? What's up dude.
  • 1 0
 Now that I've read it, I can see the mixup. No not replying to it. Haha.
  • 3 1
 Is this enduro?
  • 1 0
 Can it plug into the battery on my E Bike?
  • 1 0
 What about remote tilt!?. How about a dropper stem?. I see dollar signs.
  • 1 0
 y u not make offset!? Long legs curse.
  • 1 0
 Will there be an app so I an control it from my iPhone?
  • 1 0
 Pretty badass....
  • 1 1
 595 grams of awesomeness!
  • 1 1
 finally a new product that i like.....may get one of these.
  • 1 0
 Bring it on!
  • 7 10
 Do fucking 27.2mm!!!!!
  • 13 5
 change frame...
  • 3 6
 I don't need wireless that bad (or at all). It just stupid that some major companies are skipping 27.2. The only options in 400+ length are the Thomson, and the cheap Chinese one.
  • 9 1
 Smaller diameter does not provide the necessary lateral stifness. Especially if you need more than 100mm adjustability you probably get a post that is bending....hence not durable
  • 3 1
 Again, the thomson one is supposed to be one of the best on the market and they figured out the 27.2mm no problem. Other companies are just wussing out.
  • 8 1
 Could be a supply and demand thing, though. The demand for a 27.2 option has to be less than for either 30.9 or 31.6mm, doesn't it?
  • 1 1
 Just try to do a wheelie (with the sadle up) with a 27.2mm adjustable post and you will know what I mean.
Its the same principle that 125mm posts are more durable than 150mm.
  • 2 1
 I think you're right about that. 27.2mm frames are stronger (not going to go into this - it is a discussion that only somebody like Frank the Welder can explain), but since the big companies (spesh/trek/giant) all switched, there isn't much to do about it.
  • 2 1
 Well I have a Thomson non dropper post actually, so I've literally never had any issues with flex whatsoever.
  • 2 1
 Buy a Gravity Dropper for that size.
  • 2 0
 X-Fusion make a 27.2 at 420 overall length. why do people still overlook XF?
  • 2 0
 Maybe because we had no idea XF made a dropper post! How is it? Reliable?
  • 2 0
 I need about 445mm. My 410mm only works because I have a strong frame and the thomson has a tiny minimum insert.
  • 1 1
 @VTwintips in order to have a dropper post you actually need an inner tube that slides (up and down) into the outer tube.
So, if your frame is 27.2mm then the inner tube will have significant smaller diameter.
Of course a convensional 27.2mm Tomson post is stiff enough, but this is not the case with dropper posts.
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