Manon Carpenter Announces Move to Specialized & Sustainable Trails Project

Apr 26, 2021
by Ed Spratt  


Manon Carpenter has revealed that she will be joining Specialized with a focus on their Soil Searching trail advocacy projects.

After Manon Carpenter moved away from racing in 2017, she continued riding with Radon bikes, but now she has moved to Specialized to do some projects with their Soil Searching group. Manon also revealed that she is already working on something interesting with Tommy Wilkinson looking at how we can secure a sustainable future for our trails. We can't wait to see what they will come up with.

bigquotesExciting announcement!

I’m going to round out the week with the exciting announcement that I’ve joined forces with Specialized through their Soil Searching trail advocacy branch, to work on a topic (and more) that I’ve been digging into with Tommy Wilkinson over the last year or so!

This summer we’ll be busy exploring how we can secure a sustainable future of our trails, for everyone, and sharing what we learn in a way that hopefully does a very complex topic justice! I love a good think, and it’s been really interesting to learn more about the ribbons of dirt we have so much fun on.

Super excited to have Specialized give their backing to this project, alongside Shimano and Patagonia to help advocate for where we play. Watch this space.
Manon Carpenter



97 Comments

  • 107 8
 I hope Manon has the sense not to bother reading these comments and just bear in mind that she would make you keyboard warriors cry out on the trail.
  • 8 0
 What’s most important here is that that’s a sick bike! Everyone should always be stoked for someone with a new rig of that caliber. Mtb edict.
  • 8 0
 I haven't read the comments below yet and don't care. Good on ya, Manon - stay working and stay posi.
  • 3 0
 Exactly. These little boys have nothing on her.
  • 1 2
 I only come for the comments
  • 2 0
 Awesome Patagonia are on board. Epic sustainable company worth checking out if you haven't.
  • 1 0
 @fektor-b: Don't use this word on public Big Grin
  • 74 6
 Wow, there's a lot of grumpy PB commenters today. Can't you just be happy that a couple of companies want to support someone who is working to make trails sustainable etc? Why the hate?
  • 26 0
 It's Monday morning.
  • 24 9
 Some people don't like marketing that makes a mockery of environmentalism.
  • 23 11
 sorry, but they couldn't care less about the environment. all of this is done for marketing purposes. do your research on what specialized is.
  • 3 1
 It’s Rona fatigue.
  • 6 8
 @thenemesis: yeah that's a stupid comment. With out nature and environment there's no mountain biking lmao
  • 3 1
 @makripper: without nature and environment there is no anthropology. there is no us.
  • 1 3
 @thenemesis: yup so I'm pretty sure they care enough to protect their investment
  • 5 4
 @makripper: if that would be the case we wouldn't find ourselves in the middle of the climate crisis. we, human beings, aren't exactly rational: our bodies still think we are living in a hunter-gatherer society, and we have a hard time planning our future.

it is cheaper to pretend that we care than to actually care. sounds oddly familiar, i am sure.
  • 4 6
 @thenemesis: so you are blaming specialized on the climate crisis? Do you drive a car? Do you own a bike? You are as guilty as anyone.
  • 9 11
 @makripper: i am blaming specialized for their shady business practices and for their cynical marketing campaigns.

if you are asking me personally: all of my bikes are 15+ years old; no, i do not own a car; i am vegan; and i am an environmentalist. i am doing what is necessary. hopefully you are, too.
  • 5 6
 @thenemesis: do you have any proof of their shady business and cynical marketing? have you witness any specific one with your own eyes?
  • 5 3
 @McCason: seriously? feel free to read "litigation" found below, or feel free to invest another 5 minutes of your time and do a google search for much, much more. thanks.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specialized_Bicycle_Components
  • 4 2
 @thenemesis: if you are an environmentalist, why are you using the Internet? Do you know how much energy this thing needs?
  • 5 2
 @malv173: you can also take it one step further and propose me to kill myself, to stop me from consuming any kind of energy in the first place.

but energy itself is abundant and limitless, we just need the right source of energy, and we can have as much as we want; for many, many internets. sustainably. hope i answered your question.
  • 37 4
 I don't understand the environmental argument re. mountain bike trails. Most trails are like a 2 foot wide path in the forest. Compare that to forestry, mining, and anything else really... I just don't see how building bike trails in the woods is relevant to that discussion at all. And part of the purpose of mountain biking is to enjoy being in nature in the forest.
  • 3 0
 Habitat fragmentation is the only real risk mountain bike trails, albeit its significantly smaller impact in that regard compared to any road or atv path. Definitely is pretty silly that our mountain bike trails must always be built sustainably to avoid washout when hiking trails and atv trails are typically built without a consideration of washout risk.
  • 8 0
 @vtracer: Judging by the amount of poop they leave on trails, animals seem to like having travel corridors instead of beating their way through scrub brush (in my area).

Habitat segmentation is NOTHING with trails compared to roads. Ever seen roadkill on a trail? Ever seen roadkill on a road? There are NIMBY Sierra Club types in my area that complain about night riding in tiny areas but drive their cars on the freeway and other roads that completely create islands that animals either can't cross, don't cross, or get killed crossing.
  • 9 1
 Yeah, the phenomena of taking big problems and reducing them to comparatively small gestures is probably rooted in some sort of psychological explanation. On the environment in particular, I think increasingly, environmentalism has many religious hallmarks where people feel guilty or "original sin" sentiments, and therefore want to "do their part". So yeah, a "sustainable trail" in the middle of nowhere is largely unimportant, in the grand scheme of things, its nonetheless accessible for those inclined to "do something". By comparison, tackling mining or say how to power the grid for a country of 350 million people is far too big and inaccessible, but dwarfs "sustainable trails" in terms of importance.

There are a lot of distractions in this area. The more obnoxious form of it comes in areas where young professionals congregate and sort of "out green" each other as a form of social posturing and signaling. It's like a reverse "keeping up with the Jones's" except instead of luxury sports cars, it's Tesla's and solar panels.
  • 2 0
 It’s all about marketing
  • 1 0
 Couldn't agree more.
  • 1 0
 Perhaps a relevant comparison (if a comparison is even needed) would be comparing the impact of trail building to ski resort construction. 1200mm of trail versus entire hillside clearing for a leisure sport.
  • 2 0
 @fektor-b: Over in the UK we don't have ski resorts on every other mountain. This is more likely a comparison to other countryside pursuits, eg walking, horse riding etc. People seem to forget that it's not just about environmental impact of the trail on nature, but also the infrastructure that's needed for it to work, parking and road use to get to the trails is a big factor for anyone who lives near a trail. Then there are other things like noise, litter and crime, which happen more frequently as a result of new trails being built.
  • 1 0
 I hear what your saying. I was making more of a reference to the destruction of vegetation and comparing it to trail construction and ski field construction. Bike parks/trail centers certainly have their challenges like any rec facility though. @djm35:
  • 47 17
 so sustain. very green. buy my merch
  • 26 9
 First off- A huge congratulations to Manon for the move to Specialized and welcome to the Soil Searching Program! ***K the haters as they likely don't understand the origins of Soil Searching, what it does and the real differences it's making in the places they ride, or aspire to ride. Look forward to seeing what you can get done and hopefully we can chuck some dirt around and ride sometime soon.

I fear many of the comments on here come from a place of pure conjecture, so let's try and complete the picture somewhat. All bicycle manufacturing is bad for the environment. Aluminum, steel, carbon and even bamboo require raw materials that are harvested from the earth and energy to transform those into a bicycle that we ride and enjoy. So, if one gives a shit about nature and conserving/preserving it for future generations (which we all should because our sport relies on it), we must better understand these impacts, and spend our monies on items that seek to minimize said "footprint".

But this gets tricky as it's hard to compare these products apples to apples. The production of each of these materials has different negative effects on the environment. For example: Carbon fibre- lots of waste, tricky recycling, and consumes lots of water. Aluminum consumes tremendous amounts of energy to refine, when compared to carbon fibre. So, it's exceedingly difficult to figure out what the real "environmental cost" is of one product vs another, especially for an industry as niche as mountain biking. And this picture will remain incomplete until us, the consumers, start demanding more environmentally friendly, lower impact bicycle products.

We recently tried to calculate the emissions of a basket of goods associated with riding bikes as a job. But since no complete mtb or e-mtb data exists, we had to make some basic assumptions and apply those assumptions to the emissions data of individual products we could find (because that's how science works).
1. Impact of unspecified products is the blended average of specific components.
2. Bicycle components are approximately 50% of the overall weight of a bike.

We found, based on the best available data (Duke University study from 2014) CO2 emissions from one carbon mountain bike are approximately 0.46 tonnes. We "The Free Radicals" use 6x bikes a year so 6x0.46=2.76t CO2 shipping adds approximately 0.96t so the total landed emissions for our bikes is 3.72t and another 0.5t for the spare parts we use in a season (16x tires, 8x chains, 4x carbon rims, 8x tubes) and 1.33t for the clothing/kit (4x helmets, 8x jerseys, 6x shorts, 6x shoes, 4x riding glasses)

That total is 5.55t/year.

This calculation isn't perfect, but it does give us an idea of the carbon cost of our riding activities.

However, to put that in perspective. We also drive ~20,000km a year, which equates to roughly 3500L of fuel or 9.8t of CO2, nearly 2x that of our bikes.

All this to say- most things we do as humans are bad for the environment, and some, like driving, are worse than others, like bikes. So it's really about understanding what the impact of your behaviours have on the environment and trying to make informed decisions that reduce said impact.

We have a full set of social stories pinned on the @fattire IG account with more details for those who are socially inclined. As a total aside we've also converted a 1995 f250 to run on waste vegetable oil which should help to reduce the carbon emissions of driving by ~69% (according to R.Chen et al 2018 findings on WVO LCA analysis vs traditional diesel fuel) which equates to ~6.8t in emissions offsets a year.

There is some good remedial reading if you google "The complete Impact of Bicycle Use" and look for a study published by Duke University (with help from Specialized yes but this wouldn't have biased the results).

There is also an excellent 5-part series that discusses the carbon footprint of mountain biking titled "Scorched Earth" from Bike Mag. This is a must read for anyone interested in the topic of "sustainability" as it pertains to mountain biking. The author Matt Cote complied what is likely the most up-to-date and comprehensive review and made it enjoyable to read and digest. PB Writers, Contributors and Editors take note.

Learn More about the origins of Soil Searching by listening to the April 6th "Fever Talk" podcast titled "Fanie Kok - Celebrating Trail builders"
  • 7 1
 I have chosen not to procreate. Does that get taken into consideration in any of the calculations regarding my impact?
  • 6 0
 you get out of here with your sensible, data-driven commentary
  • 5 2
 @commental: very sensible. We’ve done the same. Not having children is the most environmentally beneficial thing you can do
  • 2 0
 Your sponsors won’t be able to pay you as much in that ideal world though... (sarcasm)
  • 1 0
 @TannerValhouli: Funny enough, they should actually be able to pay us MORE. Turns out the majority of people seem to be willing to pay more for products that are produced in a sustainable way. From that same Duke Study sited above - "Over 75 percent of respondents said they would pay at least five percent more for a sustainably produced bike, and 57 percent would pay at least ten percent more. This provides strong evidence that there is a market for sustainable bikes."
  • 1 0
 @commental: I'm the same, no kids, no pets, no car... On most calculators I come in below a sustainable level (unless I fly home to the UK a lot)
  • 15 4
 Well done Manon. There will always be people trying to take down successful people, they are just jealous!
  • 6 0
 Brilliant to see such impassioned debate - and this highlights one of the reasons why Manon and I developed this concept for a film.

One of the more interesting observations of this thread is how people interpret the word sustainable.

Our film will be investigating that very contested point, but not really in the way most have assumed.

Forgetting about carbon budgeting and the Keeling curve conjecture for a moment, we’ll be looking at things like landowner-trail association agreements, weather current access laws are sustainable and suitable, how future landscape scale policy could impact that access, how tensions with other users have been addressed by active bike communities and trail associations. We’ll be looking at different models to see how communities have activated riders to develop sustainable maintenance plans and how every type of trail, no matter if it’s a full on downhill trail to a mellow flow trail is sustainable, weather that’s through dedicated locals or local authority agreements. This will be done through case studies and real world examples.

Over and out for now.
  • 69 60
 Very substainable with that s-works carbon frame
  • 35 16
 If the marketing guys at Specialized can make us focus on 'sustainable' trails and whatever else then (they hope) we will forget about decades of marketing driven overconsumption of disposable carbon bikes.

'These are not the droids you are looking for' - some guy trying to hide something.
  • 39 3
 yes and the most non-sustainable thing in mountain biking is travelling to the riding areas, should be considerated
  • 13 2
 @thedirtyburritto: Actually they recycle their carbon frames...
  • 20 57
flag DoubleCrownAddict (Apr 26, 2021 at 6:02) (Below Threshold)
 To expect the world's most successful bike company to not make carbon frames isn't really realistic. Regardless of your cynicism, Specialized leads the industry in environmental responsibility and initiative, no other company is even close. From their website:

PEOPLE. PLANET. PERFORMANCE.

We believe the future of local transportation looks more like a bike than a car. Where transportation is the fastest-growing cause of greenhouse gas emissions, the bike is a powerful tool in the fight against climate change. To us, the bike is that and more. It’s a tool for freedom, community building, and mental and physical health.

At Specialized, we come to work each day with the purpose of pedaling the planet forward. For nearly half a century, one goal has remained constant—deliver the safest, highest-performing, longest-lasting bikes available.

In pursuit of this goal, energy is used, greenhouse gasses are emitted, and waste is created. While there’s always an impact to making and moving bikes, equipment, and apparel, we can do better, and we assume that riders expect us to do better too.

We are committed to building quality bikes and equipment, minimizing our environmental footprint in their creation, and establishing an effective path for reuse and recycling of everything we create.

OUR VALUES

Respect for People: We promote human rights in our offices and distribution centers, in our supply chain, and in our rider communities.
Respect for the Planet: We seek to promote the adoption of bikes and their positive impact on local transportation while continuously striving to reduce the impact of our operations.
Strive for Performance: We seek to relentlessly innovate, in order to redefine riders' expectations for safety, performance, and durability.

ADVOCACY AND OUTREACH

At Specialized, we are members of and are inspired by the community of riders we serve. We support and engage with riding communities to support more riders in more places in more ways. We are proud to work with the following partners:

- Outride. Providing evidence-based cycling programs to improve social, emotional, and cognitive health.
- Soil Searching. A movement to recognize, celebrate, and support the trail builders who help shape our sport and our stoke.
- People4Bikes. An organization championing programs and policies to make biking better, safer, and more accessible for everyone.

SOCIAL AND ENVIORNMENTAL RESPONSIBILITY

It's not enough to make the best bikes and gear in the world—how we make them, how long they last, and what happens at the end of their lives all matter to us.

Areas of Work:

- Responsible Manufacturing. Actively work to improve the social and environmental performance of our suppliers and our industry.
- Responsible Design. We make bikes for a lifetime of riding.
- Waste Reduction and Recycling. We want more butts on bikes and less stuff in the trash.
- Climate Action. Measuring and reducing our climate impacts.

RESPONSIBLE MANUFACTURING

Specialized is committed to working with business partners who share our commitment to social and environmental responsibility. We undertake the following activities to promote these values within our supply chains.

SUPPLIER CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT

We have teams for sourcing, engineering, quality, and social responsibility that are regularly engaged with our manufacturing partners. For manufacturing partners who are of strategic importance, we conduct a comprehensive audit that covers occupational health and safety, labor law compliance, as well as compliance with environmental regulations. When we discover issues, we work with the supplier to develop a corrective action plan with specific tasks and timelines. Through the consistent employment of these activities and in collaboration with our peers in the Responsible Sport Initiative, we've gained a better understanding of common challenges in our supply chain. This understanding helps us continue to improve our programs, our supplier's operations, and our industry.

COLLABORATION

As founding members of the World Federation of the Sporting Goods Industry Responsible Sporting Initiative (RSI), we are collaborating with a coalition of leading brands and suppliers to create shared standards, tools, and a shared supplier database via the Fair Factories Clearing House. The RSI has enabled us to quickly and efficiently improve labor and environmental performance in our supply chain, and it serves as a model for what's possible when we collaborate to address shared challenges. If you are a bike brand or supplier, we welcome your participation. Please contact: support@responsiblesportinitiative.org

CODE OF CONDUCT

Informed by the World Federation of Sporting Goods Industries (WFSGI) Code of Conduct, the Fair Labor Association, ILO conventions and adjusted to highlight prohibiting slavery and human trafficking. The Specialized Code of Conduct communicates our expectations and forms the foundation of our supplier audit program.

WASTE REDUCTION AND RECYCLING

ZERO LANDFILL PACKAGING

Our packaging team is tasked with ensuring that a product reaches the rider in perfect condition while using the minimum amount of material with maximum recyclability. Past projects include a redesigned helmet box that achieved 15% less cardboard consumption. E-bikes, meanwhile, are a growing business, and our packaging team is involved in an effort to improve durability while also adding 15 additional bikes to each container, lowering the environmental impact of transportation.

E-BIKE RECYCLING

We believe the future of local transportation looks more like an e-bike than a car. This is great for the long-term reduction of carbon emissions, but it also means that the unique components of e-bikes, such as batteries and drive units, will eventually need to be recycled. The recent growth in electric vehicles is on pace to overwhelm the established recycling infrastructure in many parts of the world. We are addressing this problem in the following ways:

- Our Turbo team in Switzerland has created state-of-the-art battery and charging systems to maximize performance and durability. Through our Mission Control app, we continue to learn how riders interact with our electric bicycles. We use this information to constantly improve performance, including battery life.

- Our ultimate goal is reuse. Specialized has partnered with Redwood Materials, a leader in lithium-ion battery recycling, to help recover materials we can bring back into our manufacturing and evaluate our design processes for better reuse or recyclability at end of life. We are focused on creating safe and effective pathways for Specialized e-bike batteries to be recycled, first in the US by the end of 2021. Together, we will then share these learnings for effective recycling across the broader bike and micro-mobility industries in the US and roll out to other markets starting in 2022.

- In keeping with our desire to develop collaborative solutions, we are working with our peers in the bike industry to establish recycling programs in regions where they don’t currently exist. In the US, we are working with the People for Bikes Sustainability Working Group to develop a battery recycling solution that is safe and easy for consumers and dealers.

- There are regional variations in battery recycling policies. Specialized recycles lithium-ion batteries according to local regulations where they exist, including Canada and several European countries.

RECYCLED FABRICS

Our apparel team at Specialized has been making incremental changes to minimize the company’s environmental footprint by designing with recycled fabrics, such as recycled polyester and recycled nylon. By using these recycled materials in our product line, we can help divert material that might otherwise end up in the ocean or landfills. In addition, recycled polyester and recycled nylon are less energy-intensive to produce than their virgin counterparts. Specialized apparel has included recycled fabrics for the past three seasons and plans to scale up recycled fibers in future seasons.

Using recycled fibers isn’t the only way to lessen our apparel’s environmental footprint. We’re also incorporating responsibly sourced down and more natural fibers, such as cotton and modal, into our product line. Another aspect we’re looking at is prolonging product lifespan—we do this in several ways, one of which is by researching and understanding the effect of various fibers and trims on garment lifespan.

CARBON FIBER REUSE

Aerospace, automotive, and sporting goods industries have relied on carbon fiber for its combination of strength and light weight. As more carbon products age out of use, there is an increasing need to develop ways to keep them out of landfills. We are happy to say that, in the US, if you return a Specialized carbon frame it will not go to a landfill.

We are currently developing products that reuse these fibers in hopes of expanding our carbon take-back program globally. The processed fibers are cut to lengths that make them unusable in bike frames, but they are suitable to blend with plastics as a reinforcing material, in the same way traditionally done with glass fibers.
  • 14 11
 @DoubleCrownAddict:
Yes thanks, no ones gonna read that whole marketing lot.
I didn’t want to criticise specialized, it could have been any other manufacturer. But I think if she really wants to lead a good way, then probably start with the small things like your bike.
  • 4 0
 @lukeno1: yeah man, that's why you are looking for work near the all around best riding spot.
I did that for my lame country. I think I made the right choice, hah.
  • 4 3
 I can't wait for sustainable trails to hit the DH circuit! Also, no racing when trails are wet.
  • 4 12
flag teamdoa (Apr 26, 2021 at 6:13) (Below Threshold)
 @DoubleCrownAddict:

It reads like they are paying for all this out of their own personal pockets, when in fact it will be paid for by people who buy their over priced products.
  • 13 5
 I mean, if you're going to go that route, we should all just eat soylent or other extremely sustainable foods, not exercise at all (because lets face it exercise is a waste of energy and requires us to eat more food), not browse non-essential internet sites which require a lot of unknown power and water to run and cool their servers.
  • 10 1
 @DoubleCrownAddict: No other company? Chris King, for starters. Or Guerilla Gravity.
  • 3 2
 @teamdoa: That's the way business works, unless they are subsidized from the government for it. Which I doubt Specialized is for the most part. Ultimately the paying customer pays for what a company spends it's money on.
  • 18 0
 Bikes are sustainability super heroes regardless of frame material, as long as they are replacing automobile miles.
  • 10 16
flag hardcore-hardtail (Apr 26, 2021 at 6:30) (Below Threshold)
 Check out this woke warrior
  • 7 1
 @juliuskliemmtb: so she shouldn't ride a bike then? Just run on the trails? All bikes are not very good the environment. I hope you don't have a carbon or aluminum bike. Both are bad for the environment in different ways. You think smelting and creating alloys is good for the environment? What about the gases used for welding and the off gassing of the welding? They are shipped in the same way to get to you as well. You really don't have an argument here.
  • 5 0
 @lukeno1: True, but it's a drop in the ocean compared to the unnecessary driving people do every day when commuting, going to the shops etc, just being generally lazy. That's what needs to be tackled, not driving 40 mins to the trail head once per week.
  • 7 3
 @DoubleCrownAddict: I don’t think I’ve ever seen you comment something and get less than 5 downvotes.
  • 7 0
 @lukeno1: the most non-sustainable thing is overproduction of bikes and parts that depreciate extraordinarily quickly, and the creation of the fake "necessity" to buy a bike every single year. as if it matters. if you are buying a bike, buy it consciously, and try to use it for many years to come. this is the best thing you can do.

p.s. by the way e-bikes are in their own league when it comes to unsustainability. unfortunately.
  • 1 0
 That wouldn’t be racing. That would be boring. @huckschwinn:
  • 1 1
 @DoubleCrownAddict: wanted to upvote ya. Too many words to read it all.
  • 3 2
 @TannerValhouli: When everything he says indicates his IQ is hovering around a healthy 3, that happens.
  • 1 3
 @DoubleCrownAddict: Guerilla Gravity is the most environmentally friendly frame manufacturer and it is really not even close.
  • 1 0
 Hey now, who went and told this guy that Specialized was going to be leading the way for standardizing gearbox driven bike frames for the rest of the community.
  • 5 1
 TLDR: sustainable trails means the number of trails scales with the number of riders. period. ignore anyone that talks any other bullshit.

More. trails. NOW. accept nothing else from your PUBLIC SERVANTS
  • 9 3
 Stop riding e-mtb. Thats thinking of the future. No battery production, no battery waste.
  • 5 1
 I like Manon. Congrats! Its also good to see so many people in the comments would turn down a sponsorship from Specialized because they make carbon bicycles. Noblemen, one and all.
  • 12 10
 Ok, so sustainable, but riding for a brand developping E-MTB, changing the design of each bike every couple of year with a strong mrketing team explaining you how you need this new bike. Looks more like she is used by Specialized to get an eco-friendly image, but in the facts nothing is done.
  • 7 2
 Very green. Just don’t look at the enormous holes dug and processing Processes used to make ebike batteries
  • 2 0
 Understandable that folks are skeptical of corporations (primary intent $$$) to give back to the community. I can't judge Specialized for their charitable efforts, but keep hammering them if they need to be more involved with MTB in tangible ways (trail building, community support efforts etc).
  • 6 1
 Congrats - cool pics and nice bike
  • 8 8
 One look at her instagram and you can get the idea that getting a BRAND NEW bike every 6 month's is super green and sustainable. do Carbon bikes really only last a few months? weird.
  • 11 0
 Well, her bike won’t go to the landfill after 6 months. Someone else will buy it a a reduced price instead of buying new...
  • 1 1
 Yes, yes they do. I'm on frame 9 in 2 and a bit years. I'm 69kg and come from a fairly accomplished BMX race background, so I tend to skip and float over stuff, or just ride slow because I still suck somewhat at anything too techy hahaha. But, I'm not a heavy rider or a "smash into and through everything" rider. From what i've read Aluminium frames aren't all that more environmentally friendly to produce in comparison, but i'm getting somewhat frustrated not so much at lodging warranties every couple months, but the amount of carbon frames i've dumped into landfill. That's 4 models of bike across two different brands.
  • 1 0
 @howie286: You must be doing something wrong. Nobody in my circle of riding friends has ever broken a frame, carbon or otherwise, and I'm in my late 40s and have been riding MTB solidly for a couple of decades. In the last 20 years, I've had 4 new MTBs, but at least two of the ones I sold are still being ridden as I know the guys I sold them to.
  • 2 0
 Sounds Epic...
  • 2 1
 Must be such a chore to ride a bike like that....
  • 3 3
 Wait ... why did the thread about Manon's sponsorship vs. Katy's get deleted????
  • 2 0
 Not deleted, just downvoted below the threshold.
  • 1 0
 I came just for the comments.
  • 7 6
 Meanwhile, elsewhere in the UK, Katy Winton is screaming into a pillow...
  • 3 0
 Why? Its unlikely they cost the same, and Katy said she other offers if she took a huge pay cut, be she (rightly) didn't want to undervalue herself and her competitors. Given Manon isn't racing I doubt she is on the same level of salary. But, on the flip side, Manon did a good job or marketing Radon, she was the only reason I'd even seen there recent bikes, so as marketing goes, shes worth it.
  • 11 14
 Is this just Hannah Barnes' maternity leave cover?...................
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