It wasn't always like this, though.
They've supported the legendary Grand Prix motorcycle racer Giacomo Agostini in his glory years, have been the choice of many for the grueling Paris Dakar off-road race, and even supplied dampers to Ferrari's Formula One team in the 1980s, all accomplishments that seem implausible when you consider that the company was born in the basement of the Marzocchi family home in 1949. There are many stories to tell from those days, no doubt, but we're looking at grimmer times.
careful what you wish for...
Imagine buying a new bike, specced with PRO components, Marzocchi suspension front and rear, and full XT for the same price as an X7/X9 and OEM Pike R and Monarch... oh how lovely a thought.
That being said someone should buy Marzocchi and keep them alive as they have history in the MTB industry and the market should have choices but I don't see Shimano ditching or modifying their partnership with Fox.
or Metallica and the Symphony masterpiece if you fancy
We will call it either Keep-it-Real Syndicate or Troll-cycles. Power to the people I say! Let's show the industry what we want! We can do it!
The big S could buy Marzocchi, but working with öhlins would probably be a problem.
How many users are on PB? We need to kickstart this!
from another point of view though, did anyone find the interview boring as shit and full of uber-corporate bullshit?
I'm another backer of the Shimano buyout. Marzocchi have been coming back the past two years. A lot more OEM for 2016 too. Good luck to them. Weren't Rockshox in this exact same position ten years ago before SRAM came along with $100 and a plan?
That said, I'd love to see a bike manu pick them up and totally change the game in MTB. Giant, certainly has the resources, could then have Giant branded forks and offer high end performance at a lower price with better margins.
@bonedog are you having a laugh about the engineering in Fox? Half of their forks are pure shit that you can't service yourself aren't they? Admittedly I'm not speaking from experience as I never have and never would buy Fox. Overpriced, underperforming according to a good 50% of bikers
I am just curious. I personally ride everything, stuff that comes along on classifieds.
or as Lopes would say, "dampered"
All puns aside, putting out the 350 27.5 with a 40mm offset...WTF? It's 2015 and every head angle is 67 or less.
EDIT: Oh, and longest A2C.
Shame they can't see the value in simply providing their employees with jobs and offering a valuable product to the global community. I hope to see Marzocchi stick around! Absolutely love my 888 RC3 EVO : )
I'd like to see marzocchi restructure itself as an worker owned cooperative; best possible scenario.
Employees are incentivized to do good work and be innovative because they will directly be rewarded for those efforts; and we as consumers would also be winners because we'd be getting the highest quality most innovative products. Such an organization is also more likely to weather the storms of hard times because when the owners/investors are the employees, they have a long view for the return on their investments, unlike the parasitic organism that is a investment speculator.
The trouble is its unlikely that you can raise enough capital from your employees because the concentrations of wealth in the model capitalist world are such that the only people with enough of it to get the project off the ground (or make the company soluble again) and the above referred to fat cats who'll insist on short term profitability.
And FYI, this doesn't have to be the case, we could collectively say, "hey, all this market volatility and the short term investing strategies sucks. Lets change the system so that investing achieves the outcomes we want; better jobs and better long term growth." but we haven't done that because our collective id can't get past immediate gratification; profits this quarter, jobs created this month, a new bike every god damn year
Workers, suppliers, downstream customers all bear much more risk than some suit whose main role is to sign yes/no on plots and plans developed by managers.
Love a bit of socialist idealism, where the end game is countries run by dictators and everyone is paid by the state what they deem to be a fair wage, innovation is stifled because no one is willing (or able) to take a punt.
[should really walk away after a blatant 'cat amongst pigeons' comment]
I applaud Tenneco for taking a punt on a business which HAS heritage, and given Marzocchi 7 years more life than it had previously, creating jobs, sponsoring athletes, funding the supply chain and a possibly a bit of money for its original owners.
This business obviously didn't fit Tenneco's portfolio, was draining resources for little or no return, now they're putting it out there for someone else to pick up the mantle rather than let the thing die a slow painful death (which is the viable alternative here). What I hope is that someone has a big wad of cash to take that punt... probably a big wad of cash earned from some other flipped business deal, to give it another 7 years of life...
Seriously guys, you'd be the first folk to complain that a small cottage industry, bunch of engineers in dirty overalls couldn't keep up with your demands for their excellent product, gave slow or non existent product development or couldn't give you adequate support for your widget. This capitalist structure you despise so much has enabled you to enjoy Marzocchi's products for many more years. That's the weird bit...
I guess if Marzzochi meets it's demise then DVO will be getting my business the next time around! Perhaps, in all honesty, they should have got it last time. Seems to me like a company working on the right set of principles...a rarity these days.
But seriously, you are just trolling right? Or do you really operate in shorter than tweet thought processes? Why don't you throw in a few more profound thoughts like "MERICA!", "Don't touch my gun", and "Dey took errr Jerrrb!"
But who knows...maybe you're both ok with your cheap *insert random good here* being made by some child in a sweatshop halfway around the world for pennies a day?
On the one hand you have this crying about greed, then look at the complaints about the cost of Enve compared to carbon rims from Asia. Can't have it both ways.
Think of going to Vegas. Are you willing to risk $1000 if the reward is $1005- doubt it. It's the same in business, you aren't going to risk pumping 2,5,10 million into a company unless there is a shot of a good return. Unlike what everyone wants to believe, making a million when risking 10 isn't a good return.
Look at the bitching about costs. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the same people bitching in that thread are the same ones bitching about greed in this.
But enough of that, you're just the right kind of investor for some ideas I have. Want me to send you the info?
You are funny though, call me crude and ignorant, yet you have to resort to the Fox news gun as some kind of insult. The same can be said of all the people watching the liberal media and falling for thier garbage hook line and sinker.
Best advice is stop watching any main stream news- they're all full of crap.
Proof, I would say, that your model (and complicit acceptance) of companies who adhere to extreme capitalism is NOT, in fact, the way it HAS to be. Some companies can, and do, operate ethically.
Also, MOST people risk their money through one from of investment or another (not just the ultra-rich), and yes, 10% would be generally be considered an EXCELLENT return on most investments. 5% would probably be par for the course, in most cases. Sad that some feel they deserve more than others.
Even though these were probably the sickest looking forks ever produced, I do understand that they discontinued these 5kg forks, when the 888 was so strong probably no one has ever broke it, while it weighed much less and was more reliable.
Nevertheless they are awesome pieces of history and I would love to have them hanging on my wall as decoration, or maybe on some old school fun machine huck bike, combined with 3" wide Gazzaloddis.
www.pinkbike.com/photo/12187300
also running a 55 RC3 Evo ti on my hardcore hard tail and just got some 888 RC3 Evo's to replace my Boxxers on my DH bike.. brilliant forks!!
Only 2 of the 10 forks I´ve owned were not zocchis. A 55, a 66, three 888s (rv, rc2x, rc3 evo ti), a Z1 a Shiver and a 350, and I loved every single one of them. May not be worth much, but if this ship goes down, I sure as hell gonna hold on to the sails!
We used to have national legislation under democratic control to regulate unfair competition conditions and hinder companies to grow too big. This power has now been surpassed to supernational financial elite through free trade agreements, and the end result for the average consumer is lower priced, less diversity between available products, and a bad conscience about exploitation of labour indeveloping coutries.
We live in a finite world with finite resources, we need to move from an idelogized continous expansion economy to a steady state economy under democratic control. Vote Green on the next crossroad!
Kinda weird, no? I can say first hand that their cust. service has been good as well. This is a real shame.
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Where will I now send my bomber for service????? Oh...wait.... It does NOT need a service - I do all by myself when I am bored...
Please stick around Marzocchi, I want my next fork to be one of yours too!
Anyways Marzocchi was the brand that took me through my glory years and had ever left my heart as a true performer in the bicycle industry. Up to this moment, I am willing to sell my soul to the devil as long as Marzocchi is saved and kept as a household name for durability and performance.
So far, I have been blessed with 30 Marzocchi forks which I still have the privilege to ride them on my bikes; this represents more than 12 years of history. Never the less this hideous news break my heart into pieces that will be sold and just let forgotten in the darkest corner of our sheds, man caves, vintage FR bikes, memories and souls.
Long live the Z1!!!!!!!
In any cases it"s bad luck and I think they surprisingly were not prepared to the "MTB boom", leading to more and more aggressive competitors on the market. Was running a Marzo on my 1st 2 bikes, and those (Drop Off triple, 66) were just incredible, but then moved to RS due to price and weight.
God save Marzocchi, however I wont change my Fox 36 Vans for anything else!
Shimano may own patents with Fox but there's nothing to stop them implementing that patent in the development of a Shimano branded fork.
Whoever buys it, there will need to be a vast amount of R&D done and quick turn around to make it actually happen which would need the corporate might of a big company.
Every "good" rider had marzocchi on there bike, then they just died of since 2008..
I hope they be back and get mote pr so they sell better!
What's the Manitou mattoc like?
And all the talking about year 2008 being the golden age? Oh please, Marzocchi's forks from years 2008 to 2010 were a complete disaster - I know, I had one!
I never bought another Marzocchi after that.
Marzocchi is down and out because of their own actions.
I wll never buy a Fox fork again.
I will never buy a Pike unless they made a coil model.The Lyrics will disapear with the 26" wheel.
Bos is a for the block suspension as DVO.Manitou is for people under 25 years who dont know their mass past and beleive that the thing will work more than 2 weeks.
XFusion,suntour etc good as all the chinese xauxau rice
A lot of people are monoglots, but that's no excuse for ignorance.