Mavic Crossmax XL Pedal - Review

May 14, 2014
by Richard Cunningham  
Pinkbike Product Picks

Mavic Crossmax XL Pedal reviewed 2014


Mavic Crossmax XL Pedal

Mavic announced that it will be developing a range of pedals in partnership with Time. The names and price points of the new pedals mirror Mavic's wheel monikers: Crossmax, Crossroc, and Crossride, and the first round of products are simply re-branded Time ATAC items. Mavic's interest in the Time pedal comes at the right moment, because Mavic's successes in enduro racing have provided the need for one, and perhaps more importantly, because in the technical realm of the sport, there are only two standout pedals for riders who clip in: The extremely reliable Shimano XTR/XT Trail, and the very popular Crankbrothers Mallet which, to be kind, has a rather spotty history for reliability. Time's ATAC system uses a simple, spring-loaded, non-adjustable mechanism, similar to the Mallet, that excels in muddy conditions and has proven to be eminently reliable. The possibility of a third player in the all-mountain/gravity pedal game, powered by a strong development team like Mavic's is a brilliant one, so we got our hands on a pair of Crossmax XL pedals for an introductory review.
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Mavic Crossmax XL Pedal reviewed 2014

Mavic's cleat is designed to sit between two powerful springs, so the contact points naturally displace mud and grime. Ramps molded in the pedal platforms effortlessly guide the cleats and shoe into position.



Mavic Crossmax XL pedals use a carbon reinforced nylon body, molded into a rectangular platform that is streamlined vertically to evacuate mud. The stainless steel engagement mechanism is basically a pair of stiff wire springs. Ramps and guides are molded into the pedal body that usher the cleat into the pedal, while encouraging mud and dirt to escape as the cleat enters the trap. The springs are not adjustable, but the cleat is profiled so that reversing it to the opposing shoe will increase the amount of angular play and noticeably reduce the force required to release the shoe from the pedal. The steel cleat adapts to any SPD-type shoe and it allows the shoe to move 2.5 millimeters left or right, and also offers five degrees of angular freedom. Friction between the shoe and the pedal platform mask the pedal's free play, so the shoe can find its sweet spot without giving the rider a sense that his or her foot is floundering on the pedal. Depending upon the right/left orientation of the cleat, the Crossmax pedal mech will release at 13 or 17 degrees of foot rotation. The springs build tension as the foot releases, giving the rider a clear indication of the release point, while also allowing the foot to swing wide without accidentally releasing - a major plus when jumping, or pulling off an athletic move, like launching up a rock step or jerking the bike around a tight switchback turn. Our test pedal, the Crossmax XL, has a chromoly steel shaft that rolls on sealed ball bearings. The pair weighed 380 grams on the scale and the MSRP is $249 USD. Mavic offers a titanium-shaft version for $399 that weighs a reported 340 grams, and lower-spec models are available for as little as $99.95.

Mavic Crossmax XL Pedal reviewed 2014

The longevity of the Crossmax XL's fiber-reinforced plastic body was in question. We did not break them although the cages show evidence that we tried to. Experience with its Time predecessor demonstrated that, even if one does manage to bash off a corner of the pedal, the mechanism can still function well. Perhaps Mavic will offer spare parts.



Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotesMavic's Crossmax is a great start to a competitive pedal development program - and those who are familiar with its sister, the Time ATAC pedal, will no-doubt agree that the engagement and release feel of the mechanism may be the best made. While there is a guided path for the cleat to slide forward into the mech, the cleat can also engage simply by placing it on the pedal and pressing downwards - something that gravity riders will no-doubt appreciate. There is plenty of warning before the shoe releases, and the entrance and exit is accompanied by a smooth, decisive action, along with a reassuring sound. Built-in lateral and angular float makes setting up the cleat to match the rider's pedaling action much easier, as a small angular error will not force the foot out of position and risk messing up a knee while test-riding your setup. If a second adjustment is required, there is also less anxiety about getting it wrong and falling back to square one - an issue that Shimano SPD users deal with sometimes. We had a chance to use the Mavic Crossmax XL pedals in a range of conditions, including sticky clay mud and a lot of boulder hopping - the latter of which, created much concern for the lifespan of their molded-plastic pedal platforms. Muddy conditions afforded no issues with engagement or disengagement, and we are happy (perhaps, "lucky" may be a better word) to report that the pedal's carbon-reinforced nylon platforms survived repeated bashing without a crack or complaint. We are not naive to the fact that it is possible to break the plastic platform cage, as we have done so riding its Time counterpart, but we also must add that the pedal is far tougher in that respect than its appearance may lead one to assume. We can hardly wait to see what the collaboration between Mavic and Time will produce as Mavic moved forward with its pedal program. In the meantime, the Crossmax XL is my new go-to all-mountain pedal. - RC



110 Comments

  • 88 1
 Mavic pedals....about time.
  • 43 7
 $400 for peddles? Do they have super powers?
  • 18 4
 Except that they aren't Mavic...
  • 7 29
flag BrendanBiking (May 14, 2014 at 21:59) (Below Threshold)
 @bmxrace121 except they are Mavic......
  • 16 2
 Not really they just put a sticker on it...
  • 13 1
 $400 for 340 grams that's bloody pricey
  • 23 4
 It's pedals, not peddles.
  • 7 34
flag Terrafire (May 14, 2014 at 23:43) (Below Threshold)
 ^ Grammar Nazi ^
  • 9 12
 SimonBros they are Enduro specific and have a Mavic sticker. ;-)
  • 52 2
 Did nobody get the pun? Mavic...about TIME.






see?
  • 19 1
 It's spelling, not grammar.
  • 4 0
 This Time through I got the pun.
  • 3 1
 @maxlombardy - give the guy a brake. I mean break.

I hate seeing that one too it's not difficult!
  • 1 2
 @simonbros the base mode is only 100$ Which isn't too bad
  • 6 3
 read between the lines boys .

Jerome Clementz rides for Mavic yet he used to use crank brothers . so they partnered with a pre existing pedal company and slapped their logo on it so jerome can now ride a mavic pedal .

"jerome rides theses to win world cup enduro races , now you can too for a paltry $100"

POW POW
  • 1 0
 don't get ti and you won't have to give your left testicle or remortgage your house. I just got the middle of the line ones that they tested here and can't wait to ride them!
  • 2 0
 But they don't say Mavic.
  • 2 7
flag minty1 (May 16, 2014 at 14:16) (Below Threshold)
 Horrible,and if they clip anything like cb pedals then even worse.
  • 24 2
 Jerome is sponsored by them. Yet, runs Shimano pedals. Hmmm....
  • 30 0
 Jerome is sponsored by sram, yet runs shimano pedals.
  • 8 1
 Jérôme is sponsored by Mavic AND Sram. Maybe he was running Shimano pedals because Mavic ones weren't ready for racing ?
  • 11 2
 Or he just prefers spd...
  • 5 0
 pedals tend to be something sponsors are more lenient on, Its much more a personal preference and if you are not comfortable with what is connecting you to the bike, you are not going to do well.
  • 2 0
 The same thing is with saddles. Even in the pro peloton.
  • 3 0
 This is so confusing!!!
  • 1 0
 Jerome runs that 19mm rim in the rear too… such a poseur (sarcasm)
  • 2 0
 Also runs Pikes instead of a Lefty
  • 3 0
 thatpeskylimey - He must be a wizard! thinkbike - poseur yes... it reminds me of other euro characters like Francois Tosseur or the German Hans Morgentosser
  • 8 0
 I've been using Time Control Z -pedals for three years. Really good and reliable system. All my friends ride on Shimano pedals. I tried SPD for couple of rides but found it too hard to find the attach point on action. There's no real support for your shoe/foot on the platform either. Prices? Time sells pedals with alloy body for 70e pair. For this price you get a set of pedals and cleats, that will last twice the longer than your shoes will.

I'm a bit confused on the prices of PLASTIC body pedals shown here. The weight difference isn't that high either. 50g savings vs. indestructible platform or 400€ with a bit more weight shaved plus that chance to crack some of that precious platform off. Kind of no-brainer to me.
  • 8 7
 40 g lighter and less durability for only 200€ its ofcial all mountain is the road biking of mountain biking.
  • 3 0
 I am quite content with my Z's as well. I'll save some money for post-ride food and beverages.
  • 7 1
 "all mountain is the road biking of mountain biking" That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard all week. Thanks for the laugh!
  • 1 0
 After more than 10 years on CB I'm ready for change,
Time MX4 will do. Same as Mavic but cheaper.

www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/mx4-mtb-pedal-147103/wg_id-8867
  • 2 0
 I'm assuming that's 195g per pedal? Still... 1/8th the price, just because it doesn't have magic written on it. That's a no brainer.
  • 1 0
 Yeah I was hoping someone would point that out I got the mx4 for around $80 and they perform really well
  • 1 0
 I've been using TIME Z-strong for a while and I do recommend them to everyone.
You are not stuck with one position as in SPD and as for comparison to CB.....I've been using time for 2 years and they did not break...
Price-tag for "Mavic" is just to high..
I'd rather go with TIME MX12 Titanium in this price range.
...but Hey! - It's Mavic so it has to cos ;]
  • 1 0
 There are much cheaper versions, This one is just top of the range.
  • 2 0
 Their $400 version is still more expensive than Time's top pedal, which is Ti and Carbon and weighs 99g less!
  • 10 2
 "there are only two standout pedals for riders who clip in: The extremely reliable Shimano XTR/XT Trail, and Crankbrothers Mallet "
Obviously written by an American. Crank Brothers pedals are a joke for reliability.
Time pedals have been around for ages in Europe and they last longer than "extremely reliable" Shimanos because of their sealed bearing simplicity... Ah yes In Europe....hey ho
  • 4 0
 What he said.

Been running Times for well over ten years after getting sick of Shimano's inconsistency in the mixed sand and clay conditions I was riding in. Not as intuitive to get into as Shimano, but they work ALL the time and the release is consistently the same regardless of conditions.

I have a set of carbon caged Times - touch wood, no chunks missing yet. If experience is anything to go by, my massively beaten up Z-Controls (that do have chunks missing after seasons in the Alps) still work perfectly.

Brilliant products. I just hope Mavic don't double the price for adding a yellow sticker.
  • 4 0
 Never again will I ride on SPD pedals, been on Time for years and years now!
  • 7 5
 That's what he said, Crank Bros. are worthless... Obviously misinterpreted and truncated by a (stuck up) Brit...

"and the very popular Crankbrothers Mallet which, to be kind, has a rather spotty history for reliability."
  • 5 0
 I could never understand why outside of weight weeniedom that anyone ever wanted to use Crank Brothers pedals.. one good rock smack and the whole thing becomes useless, 4-sided mechanism be damn. ATACs may have been hefty but they had full pedal platforms to go with the spring bars... and they were reliable...
  • 5 1
 Because for DH mallets are basically the best thing on the market when it comes to ease of entry and exit. They also have the best platform. The downside is that the spindles are possibly made of cheese. I've never had any issues with the mechanism itself.
  • 4 0
 Have you even seen the mallets, the new dh ones have a full metal body around them
  • 2 0
 They are actually quite strong and I have knocked them against many rocks (candies, so less platform). They also offer the best mud clearance and 4 sided entry (most evident on eggbeaters, but still good on the rest) though those reasons are why they are popular in CX. They can feel a bit vague, but its personal preference (mine is shimano, but I have had a few pairs of CBs)
  • 3 0
 I used to ride Shimano exclusively, but have since switched in the last couple years to riding only Crack Bros pedals. The main issues for me were mud and ability to quickly engage. Can't remember the number of times I'd be at the top of a sharp hill, and have to quickly clip in for the descent. I'm talking, like, clipped-in in less than 1/2 a pedal stroke quick. Pain in the @$$ with Shimano. Still not super easy with CB, but still better. And never anymore issues with mud in the mechanism. I'm happy with them so far. And the newer designed ones aren't prone to failure like the gen 1 models.
  • 3 0
 Because CrankBrothers pedals shed mud like a prom dress! I have been running Egg Beaters on my CX bikes and Candy on the MTB for a few years now without issue.

Living in the PNW means rain/mud and I was getting sick and tired of my XTR pedals becoming mud platforms in the middle of a race. Yes, CB's need more maintenance, but they're super easy to tear apart and rebuild.

And as WAddict said - the newer CBs are a vast improvement over previous generations.

Also, buy the cheaper versions of CB pedals, upgrade to aftermarket Ti spindles and save a sh*t ton of $$

shop.titaniumspindles.com/CLICK-HERE-FOR-TI-SPINDLES-THAT-FIT-CRANK-BROTHERS-PEDALS_c2.htm
  • 1 2
 Spend hundreds to get reliable pedals with aftermarket bits when you could have started with reliable pedals... yeah that's a plan.
  • 1 0
 Not any more reliable, just a whole lot lighter for a lot less $$ than the Eggbeater 1's. I've never had a pair of CB's clogg or fail in any way. Heck, I just took mine apart last night, cleaned, re-lubed, and reassembled in under 10 min (without even removing the spindles from the crankset). For me CB's work extremely well, maybe they're not for everyone, but I'm happy.
  • 11 3
 Why the need for such a long article for rebranded Time pedals?
  • 4 1
 Yes, I'd like them to explain exactly what did Mavic bring to this already excellent product !
  • 3 0
 They put new price on them
  • 6 0
 I don't really get why Mavic felt the need to put their sticker on a pair of Time pedals....
  • 4 3
 Likewise...it must be a French thing. Wink
  • 1 0
 Branding. Mavic wants to be an accessory supplier and the more accessories they have with their logo, the better. And if you want to rebrand another brand's pedal, Time seems to be like one of the best options to do that to. And once they generate enough money to launch their own, then they will.
  • 3 0
 People are acting like it's the first time a manufacturer makes a product in cooperation with another manufacturer...
  • 1 1
 Because they are both owned by the same parent company. And Mavic offers "system" branding, ie wheels+tires, bibs+socks, socks+shoes, shoes+pedals etc...

I really like my time mx6, but I have already bended one spring, so the pedal was loose on the feet. Hopefully fixable by shiming the other end of the spring.
Plastic body is really strong, you can smash it on rocks without breaking it, and platform support is real, unlike shimano.
  • 1 0
 @Mac-Aravan, I'm pretty sure that Time is not owned by Amer Sports
  • 1 0
 My bad, I though they were related.
  • 1 0
 Mavic and Time don't share any ownership. Time is owned by one French dude. Mavic is owned by Amer Sports, which is a larger group owning several brands.
  • 6 0
 Time makes good pedals... I finally blew up a pair of atacs. After 7 years... If mavic is using time ? Good news
  • 2 0
 I was always surprised that Time pedals never really caught on in the MTB world. I suspect they just didn't put in the Time and effort to market them properly. Also, they're website offers very little information about the pedals, and what distinguishes one pedal model from another. I've been running Times for BMX for the past year, and they're great. I haven't got to put them on my MTB yet, so I can't speak to performance in mud and whatnot, but as an alternative to a Shimano platform clipless, they're a perfectly viable alternative.
  • 1 0
 True. I used to ride Time Control Z for freeride/DH purposes lots of years ago. I did really love the ease of clicking in and out and the feedback they gave. Super reliable, even in snow and mud. Wonder why I jumped the bandwagon and bought Crank Brothers Mallets later. Maybe because I couldn't find new cleats for my Time (even in bike shops they didn't know time pedals and I thought they stopped making them - corresponds with your theory that they just didn't market them properly). Anyway, I somehow hate my CB Mallets and think of switching back to Time.
  • 3 2
 The time version of these pedals(MX6) I bought came with different looking cleats (smaller and steel) that would constantly jam and fail to release no matter what I did. I was really disappointed. Even with the brass cleats pictured, they will not consistently release. I have read other magazine reviews where they have had the same issue as well. Maybe it's shoe to shoe?
  • 1 2
 Not bad and I wouldn't mind trying then out after another model or two come out. BUT, whats up with the "Perhaps Mavic will offer spare parts."?
  • 4 0
 I've had the Time DH4 (the model with the metal cage) for 6 years and I never had any issue with it. The only time I couldn't clip in was when there was ice on my cleat.... And my cleats looks exactly like those though.
I ran them with Specialized shoes, and then Mavic's one.
  • 1 0
 @teamdescent; ''shoe to shoe''? Please explain...
  • 2 1
 The cleats aren't brass, they are plated steel. Brass cleats would last, maybe, one clip in/out..
  • 1 0
 "I bought came with different looking cleats (smaller and steel) that would constantly jam and fail to release no matter what I did."

Serious question - were they Crank Bros cleats? They're similar to the point they vaguely work, but as far as I know Time have always used brass cleats.
  • 3 0
 My MX6 comes with brass cleats (same as pictured here). Maybe you need some shims under the clear due to interference between cage and shoe.
  • 1 2
 They're not brass...
  • 3 1
 @ ritchierocket, i just contacted x fusion for a protective cap that goes on the bottom of a set of vengence forks that i got last year, the cap covers the 2 rebound knobs . anyways i asked to buy another one and i was answered that they had no more in stock and that the vengence is being discontinued so they would not be making any more????? what the hell , its a 2013 fork and i already cant buy a part for it.
but would you be able to maybe get the parts from time to fix the pedals though?? not very ideal to have to search for parts though.

on a side note , anyone with a lower leg dust cap from a X fusion vengence for sale?
  • 1 1
 ^Right?
  • 2 1
 the TIME cleat is brass- trust me, i am an expert on TIME pedals and i used to work there.... if you have a steel cleat its a knock-off and if it came with your pedals new in the box then you should really be wondering if your bike shop swapped them for some reason, or if they arent completely counterfeit since there is no reason that a steel cleat would ship with a TIME pedal. TIME has NEVER produced a steel cleat... they only ever have made a brass cleat as shown in the pictures above... there used to be aftermarket steel cleats made by a chinese company and sold by Sinz and a few others, but they dont work well and wear out the spring arches pretty quickly...
  • 1 0
 @stopcomponents, you can just order parts for the corresponding TIME model and you are good to go on parts... but i dont see you ever buying these for some reason...
  • 1 0
 They were dark grey cleats with a much larger front piece and small back. Even after swapping them for my older atac cleats they bind on my Specialized sworks trail shoes. I may be missing a piece but the pedals came with only those cleats and no instructions. My older atacs I got used were great. I will try making some shims or something. Don't feel comfortable racing DH in them if I can't get out.
  • 1 0
 yeah dude... i would get some help on that... dont get hurt... call them up.
  • 4 1
 Cleats all the way forward RC? I've always been told to run mine back further... thoughts? Perhaps worth another tech talk article.
  • 1 1
 All depends on the riding style. I've run them in the "normal" position for DH and it scared the hell out of me...felt like I was going to snap my ankle on some g-outs. I could see running them like that if it was a steep and rocky course where you have your heels down.

I also tried them with the cleat further back and it felt much better in DH applications.

I guess it boils do to "to each their own"??
  • 1 0
 It has a lot to do with pressure underneath the foot and riding position (while seated at least). Cleat position (even with very stiff soles) can lead to numbness in the toes as well as positioning you on the saddle properly, so finding the right cleat position is very personal and fit/comfort oriented. Generally speaking, cleats forward is a bit more problematic, but it's very subjective.
  • 3 0
 Matt, try running flats for a while and you will trend to a certain position. Then replicate that with clips. My left cleat is now slightly different to my right cleat and years of knee problems have disappeared. No use having the theoretical 'ideal' position if you can't ride. Mother Nature knows best, she'll show you what's best for you.
  • 3 0
 The pedal slots in the Bontrager shoes are biased to the rear, so the cleat position I use puts the ball of my foot well ahead of the pedal axle. It is true that positioning the cleat farther back is better for descending and technical riding. Too far, however makes power transfer less effective.
  • 1 0
 I've been running the MX-8 Time version of this for a few months now. Absolutely the best pedal I have used for AM. It's light for what it is, and tough so far. What I didn't expect was the platform making clipping back in so consistent, and fast. Just step on it and go, and super reliable release on both my Sidi's and Five Tens. Growing up with Speedplays the float is great for my knees.
  • 1 0
 I have my Time pedals from 7 years ago, when I started riding. My friends still have theirs 12 years on. I have never even serviced the bearings. I have since bought 5 other pairs of Time pedals and never had an issue with strength or reliability over the years. That said, I have had endless issues with every Mavic product I have owned, bar their rims. Good thing I have surplus Time pedals now, I probably won't buy any more now that Mavic have taken them over.
  • 2 0
 Mavic haven't taken over. They've paid time to put a sticker on Time's existing pedals.
  • 1 2
 12 years ye say? What box have you had them stored in?
  • 2 1
 Crank Brothers always feel sloppy at the top of the pedal stroke and the Times always felt vague. I quite like my XTR trail but the pedal to beat for me (and I know this is crazy talk as it's tiny and single sided) is still the Ritchey Micro Road Pro.
  • 1 0
 I have a pair of those Ritchey road pedals and I love them as well.
  • 1 0
 I used the latest mallet 8 months ago it only lasted for months of use. It needs to rebuilt the spindle I went back using shimano's reliable and durable xt trail pedals. Im open to try time pedals coz the platform is bigger.
  • 2 0
 Still no tension adjustment! Times XC's are by far the best feeling pedal. Add the XC tension adjustment on that plat, what are you waiting for???
  • 2 0
 I never saw a need for tension adjustment. You need it tighter or looser?

Plus, the simplicity of the design is what makes it reliable - its just a simple spring. You add in tension adjuster, and it changes the design of the product all together.
  • 4 0
 Come on guys, i want a Mavic Crossbike!
  • 1 1
 Sorry guys but if you seeing the material you understand why have these prices. The expensive model ATAC MX12 it's from Carbon-Titanium and weight 316gr., is the lightest pedal for enduro and wide platform. I waiting to try them !!!
  • 1 0
 I've had various time mtb pedals since 1998, they've never been a problem. They're probably the most reliable part on a bike, despite mud and rock strikes. I wouldn't move away from them at all.
  • 3 0
 overpriced stuff... wtf. is wrong with cycling industry
  • 4 1
 DX SPD for life!
  • 1 0
 I have a friend who races BMX and he swares by the Time Atac'sand he has ridden them for a couple of years now.
  • 2 1
 $400 for pedals... WAT?

The most baller CNC'd flats go for like $300 MAX.
  • 2 4
 The most balla flatsgo for 200... crampon mags
  • 4 1
 lolno... i'm talking podium 2's, predators, north american made botique pedals.
  • 3 0
 Oooh. Those ARE nice pedals.... yer right the predators are pretty steep but the podium 2's are reasonable. ... still like canfield better tho
  • 2 1
 Weeee endless overpriced reviews! Gr8
  • 2 1
 I think the best pedal has already been invented, Shimano M647 Big Grin Big Grin
  • 1 0
 Mechanism looks like Look Quartz.
  • 11 11
 Four words. Shimano XT Trail pedals. Lol
  • 1 1
 shimano dx are the best...
  • 1 1
 i hope people realize they are just re branded timez
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