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Many riders, if not most these days, are still inexperienced and haven't known what mountain biking is for that long.*
- ^ Elaboration. Theres nothing wrong with that either.

You're flooding your market*

***and Mike Levy, please don't write in your wheel review articles how people shouldn't spend money having their tires mounted. Not everyone is pro. Sometimes $15 labor is worth the time and sealant. When you're apart of the industry, and you're ripping out the backbone, you're going to get one limp d*ck of an industry. Most of you already are with your display of riding skills. Families out there have been opening their doors every day for over fifty years, some more Every day. . they're called bike shops. They've been here longer than you could ride, before you knew what a bike was, and will still be here after your gone.

 Well... I know im gonna get down voted and dont get me wrong i think they suck but the +size thing might actually be a good choice for newbies.

 Not totally wrong there fercho25. They won't get any better riding them though. and they'll quit the first time they slice their side wall on their $120 each tires that are too fat for most trails.

 thats a big 10-4 bike industry, ya I'm still stuck in 2007 and not moving forward. I got a standard that needs a standard, make better chainring bolts. I might not make sense.

 A capable +wheel'd full rigid bike does not truly demand tires at over $100.00 or does it run out riders from commiting to the build. I do find myself in agreement with JimmyMcgarth as the Cycling Indst. being in hair scramble mode instead of embracing the purity of the past year -- gaining another look at rigid bikes. Is something great, and will reninvent the stoke to grow rider membership.

 If you don't want it, don't buy it. Delete your profile and ride off into the sunset on your rigid, SS, 26" cruiser. I promise you'll still have fun! However, I enjoy spending some of my extra cash on new bike stuff. Some of these innovations do the very thing that you think the industry should be doing. They get people out on the trail excited about riding.

 Well said Mr.! I ride a 2014 Ragley piglet 2,
26" 2×9 not + size no carbon just durable parts. When I read Pinkbike I feel like my bike is an out of date pile of crap! But in reality it a ripping bike that I have a blast on.

 Well, some of the new stuff is clever, for example the 1x trend. Nothing wrong with 26", put 1x drivetrain on it, durable parts, might throw a carbon bar on it, and you're all set!

 Your not the real jimmy McGrath where's all your pics of Ronnie Mac

 ...speaking of tires, how is it that bicycle tires are More expensive than car tires? oh thats right, because its a non-essential, luxury item inwhich the consumer must lube-up and bendover, too enjoy his/her "hobby"

 A good percentage of people who are buying these new standards are wealthy people who need an ego boost to compensate for their lack of skills. They read the marketing words and think, "yeah, that can make me 3% faster in corners, make me 5% better at climbing hills, and 12% better in the descend, and now I can be the god of mountain biking, and the world will respect me and accept my superiority". Because they have raced in their lives to get that money, they are making mountain biking into a competitive scene too; it's all about speed, Strava, spandex. They want to show everyone why they are better, and why they are successful; because they view success by the quantity of money.

There is a larger portion of the mountain biking community that save for multiple years just to buy one bike, and when they do, it's middle of the spectrum, or a used bike, or save long enough to get top of the line. Going faster or slower than someone else isn't a big deal to them, because mountain biking puts a smile on their face. These people hang out with their friends while mountain biking, will stop in the middle of the ride so their friends can regroup. They will take a break in the shade to eat some snacks and shoot the shit, or look at the beautiful views.

We can't let those who buy the newest products define the mountain biking community. I have accepted it and just tell such people that you have won. You have the lightest bike, you have the fastest strava time, you can climb better than me and you can descend better than me. After we tell them this, then we can continue to ride our bikes with a smile on our face and not worry about what them or the industry that caters to them. We can wait it out and buy a great bike for a great price a couple years later after our current bike breaks, and many of these fads are dead.

 @brncr6 I also have a piglet, great bike! Might not be a full suspension carbon superbike but it's a blast to ride.

 So effing true.

 Really good comment @JimmyMcgarth. I was talking to the Trek importer at CrankWorx and he was saying the all the new standards are hurting their business. Mountain Bikers are playing a 'wait and see' approach to see which of the standards are going to stick before making a buying decision.

 PB'ers defending noobs, what twilight zone am I in right now?

 @abzillah why make personal attacks? Some of us enjoy spending our money on new bike parts that may have little benefit but what you're trying to do is make everyone share the same view as you and those who don't you call them wealthy people who can't climb. Stop trying to make the mountain bike industry only cater for you and people who are in the same situation as you, there are heaps of cheap bikes already on the market. I'm a poor uni student by the way.

 Pretty sure they know what they're doing. The innovative stuff sells. If it didn't they would stop. If they don't keep doing new stuff those companies will be left behind. Just like every industry out there. Gear down big rig.

 @abzillah Do you always have a victim mentality?

 I would say that only Trek is getting "hurt" by the new standards, aren't they the only big co. that has boost? Trek isn't dumb, I can see boost helping all of us, but especially the people about to buy their first expensive bike.

 All the bike companies are having no problems whatsoever selling all these new technologies. Specialized and Trek have already sold out a good amount of there bikes company wide and completely underestimated how many bikes they were going to sell this year. If you can't afford these new technology then you'll enjoy trickle down technology and closeouts on the old stuff but bike companies aren't going to avoid adapting to new technology at the mercy of making there old product. A lot of people are able to get into the sport at a much lower price point these days because perfectly good used bikes have depreciated enough.

 @kneeko the problem is when it comes to replacements parts. PB showed Easton and SRAM wheelsets last week neither in 26 inch - so sure you might be able to get a cheap used bike but what's the point of you can't get parts for them?

Also, the bike industry seems to ramming these new standards down our throats regardless of whether we want them or whether they actually provide any real benefit to the rider.

 @StackingItSince1991 - exactly the reason why small-aftermarket-parts-companies will benefit from all this mumbo-jumbo. For example, Easton is refusing to produce 26' replacement rims or the price is super high for a proprietary Havoc aluminium rim. Therefore, pointing me toward LB's carbon rims which are wider, lighter, stronger, and only a tad mode expensive. Ain't a tuff choice at all.
And the case isn't like this only with rim choice - other parts are also getting too "standartised" and expensive and smarter alternatives are coming out from smaller manufacturers.

 This is the reason I will NEVER own another INTENSE bike again... you spend premium money on a carbon unicorn and then it's blown out online within a year or 2 and worth DIRT.

 I don't think that is the bike manufacturers fault.

 I like that idea...
Do some quick interviews, look around to see what they're working on, an employee bike-check or two? Maybe follow them on quick ride at their favorite trail? As a shop guy I'd love to be able to give examples as to why I'm not the devil, I'm not ripping anyone off, and I'm not working there just to get that crappy pay check.

 Pinkbike takes people, time and, of course, money to run. If you like reading their reviews for free, then don't complain that they get money from advertisers.

 not all lbs are a great service

 Make a quick video and do your own write up send it to pinkbike, who knows they may like it and put it up

 Both Dunbar and Fanatik are within an hour from my house. Seem pretty local to me.

 A straitline dm stem at a lbs is around 165$. Online I have found them for 65$. I will not support my lbs if these are the prices. Online shopping is still new and we are still going to see huge changes in the next decade or two.

 Until manufacturers like Shimano enforce price control, all products will be cheaper to buy online then any lbs. Lbs pay more then the big Internet companies. Lbs can't buy in bulk or manufacturer direct. Thus goes for all retail. As long as consumers buy solely off the Internet we won't have lbs to complain about high prices. Bikes will either be bought online as well or concept stores. I fear most lbs will go away. . Sad day. I support mine even if I pay a bit more. .. their resources and having that human contact/fellow riders/shop rides all the awesome stuff online can't give, is worth paying the extra money on parts.

 Lbs will never go away, way to many people out there with money that will walk right into the shop and throw down cash on new bike and bike repairs.

 Here's a tip: If your business requires price control from your supplier, then your business model isn't profitable. Artificial pricing floors are customer hostile, & are always a horrible decision to make from the manufacturers standpoint. Shimano stuff used to have artificially high prices: SRAM got their foot in the door because of it. Shimano isn't in the business of propping up bike shops profitability, they're in the business of selling bike parts, & most of them to bike companies, not consumers.

 Well Shimano fixed that, according to the LBS in my area, you can get Shimano products on-line from just about everywhere cheaper then the LBS wholesale price. Guess they went the opposite direction. Either way..whatever. I support my LBS, all I'm saying.

 Too right it amazes me all the Time Shimano at wholesale prices, that is because there buying Shimano direct as a wholesaler. All they have to do is have a big enough bank balance and warehouse to match the uk distro centre and Shimano are all ok with it.

 Awesome deal...Pressfit BB is a bummer though

 his middle name is Good.

 wow what a good deal 7000$ for an intense tracers I think I'll get three

 Its not enduro if you dont spend at least 5 grand

 im so enduro then my underpants are worth that

 I import more than half the stuff I buy from the UK, cause it's cheaper.

 The smaller things can be cheaper with deals, the choices you guys have over us is unbelievable, also. I'm currently after a Santa Cruz nomad, over here the frame set and shock is £2800 if you're lucky, where you are its $2800. Just as a small example

 Not with deals at all, actually: Both Shimano & SRAM stuff is cheaper from chainreaction, or bikeparts.de, or wiggle, or blah blah blah, every day of the week. lots of other stuff too: fireeye sells a lot of catalog parts that are exactly the same as other brands, for a lot cheaper, but they don't sell to the US.

 Quite a few other brands, like Octane, Gusset, etc, are harder to get here. You've got a huge advantage over me trying to buy a Canyon or an NS, for example. As cool as the Nomad is, were I in your position, I'd buy a Canyon, just because of the pricing.

 Go to where these parts are produced. I here XTR is really cheap in the philipines!

 I have that lid it's great. A bit warm on hot days. But it's worth it. The one thing worth the money is your helmet, what's your skull worth to you.

 Is it possible to remove the fugly Gopro mount?

 I have the Bell helmet and it is a great deal for the price. Factor in active junky and it is even less. If I am doing mellow XC rides then I won't use it. But if I need protection without going to a full faced lid then it is perfect. The gopro mount is just hooked on by velcro and is easily removed. I am a big fan of mounting my gopro under the visor so I just attached a mount there.

 Best helmet I've ever owned, with the best ventilation across the forehead(therefore keeping sweat out of my eyes.) buy it, doo eet.

 Any shoe will work with any pedal. The only part that has to match is the cleat to the pedal. nothing wrong with doing a bit if learning

 THAT IS NOT TRUE. Some shoes can interfere with some pedals. If that happens, you can USUALLY cut some rubber out of the way to make them work, but NOT ALWAYS. buyer beware.

 I just got a 2014 Norco sight for a great price. No dumb new standards minus the 650b wheels. I go with lower spec and upgrade what I don't like. That's a big part of the experience for me Plus modern "low" end components are great performers if you don't mind the weight. IE my new deore is better than my perfectly tuned old xt dt.

 That's awesome! At the end of last year I bought a 2014 Norco Sight for a great price, too. It's a fantastic bike for the price range.

 Oh yea, higher spec stuff doesn't impress me as much, anymore, as how great low end stuff has become. There was a time when a deore or lower component had to be considered a ticking time bomb on your bike, you bought the bike knowing that part was going to need replacement within a year. Now, damn near everything just keeps working forever.

 Amazing, it's not like an XT 11spd dérailleur is half that price

 i should save 20 grams!

 @Matteo, not sure if you are being sarcastic. But, this $200 derailleur is a 10-speed, not 11. Current XT 10 speeds can be as low as $80. Less than half the price. And XTR 10-speed for $130.
No prices that I have seen for XT 11-speed yet.

 for your muricans it's 1400

 What does this page have anything to do with not riding bikes for the love of riding bikes?