Do you remember your first serious mountain bike? If you were lucky, you might have had something half decent, but the majority of us likely started off on something a bit more, ahem, rustic. And if you were a fortunate youngin who had parents to help out, there's a good chance that said bike was at least one size too large for you... you know, so it'd be the last bike they ever had to buy. Now that it's 2017, there's an entire segment of second or third generation little rippers, many of whom with parents that ride and know the performance difference between a junker and a bike designed to let someone excel.
There are only a few options to choose from if you're looking for a high-end kids bike, and these three from Meekboyz are probably the only option if you'd like to see your little guy or girl on a carbon fiber machine that's exotic enough to make adults wish they were three or four feet tall. All three feature carbon fiber front and rear triangles, a dual-link suspension layout designed to work well with low shock pressures that kids require, and dream-worthy builds that include carbon fiber rims, titanium spokes, Hope and SRAM running gear, and suspension from Fox.
The price? Well, it's a lot, as you'd expect. The 20'' wheeled MiniBeast (100mm/120mm) retails for $6,800 USD; the 24'' wheeled Beast (180mm/180mm) sells for $7,500 USD; and the 26'' wheeled MegaBeast (185mm/200mm) costs $8,400 USD. You're going to really have to like your kid to pick up one of these things, and while there's no denying that most of us are going to scoff at those numbers, don't forget that a high-end adult bike with a carbon fiber frame, carbon wheels, and the best of the best component spec will easily eclipse the price of the Meekboyz machines. Then again, while adults are going to go through a bike every two or three years, at least you won't be growing out of them.
Meekboyz says that they sell about one hundred complete bikes per year, which is, admittedly, more than I would have guessed. They're expecting sales numbers to increase, too, with 2017 being just their second year in production. I've never wanted to be four feet tall more than I do right now.
The Meekboyz Beast, pictured above, is a 24'' wheeled bike with 180mm of rear wheel travel and a 180mm stroke Fox 36 up front. Like the other two machines, the Beast is built up around a carbon fiber frame manufactured in Asia, and it employs the same dual-link suspension layout that's designed for light riders and off the shelf shocks. And while the frame certainly looks wild, you'll find "standard" 12 x 142mm rear hub spacing, a normal seat post size, and an 83mm wide threaded bottom bracket shell. Sure, the Hope crankset is short to better suit little legs, but the rest of the build is relatively normal, even if it makes most full-sized bikes look like budget builds.
The Beast's claimed weight is right around 26.5lbs, and it has a $7,500 USD price tag. That's a hell of a lot of chores.
A lot of grom bikes on the market feature some variation of a single pivot suspension layout, likely to help keep costs as low as possible but, as you can probably tell, that's not really the Meekboyz M.O., is it? The bikes' carbon fiber swingarms are molded in two separate pieces before being joined together about halfway up the chain and seat stays, and the aluminum links are machined in New Zealand and then shipped to Meekboyz's Honk Kong HQ to be assembled.
Want your little person's name machined into the link? No problem, dad. All of the pivots rotate on sealed cartridge bearings, and all three models come with needle bearings installed in both shock eyelets.
The wildest looking of the three has to be the MiniBeast, a 20'' wheeled bike with 100mm of rear wheel travel that's paired with a 120mm stroke fork. The littlest bike's build is just as Gucci as its bigger brothers, with 20'' carbon rims, titanium spokes, and fancy running gear from SRAM and Hope, all of which adds up to a $6,800 USD MSRP. Could 26'' wheels make a comeback on in-betweener sized bikes? The MegaBeast rolls on 26'' wheels, carbon fiber, of course, has 185mm of rear wheel travel, a 200mm fork, and a $8,400 USD price tag.
Everybody is over here complaining about the price and I'm just suffering from an eye-twitch because of this....
"The littlest bike's build is just as Gucci as its bigger brothers"
Now, a kid that grows up on full suspension could still become a great rider, but they will not develop the body instinct that riding rigid teaches. They will always rely on the bike more. They won't reach their full potential.
Of course any kid would love to have one of these bikes, and have an incredible amount of fun on them. But what if one of those kids turned out to be really fast, got into racing, became a junior WC racer in his/her teens, but then could never seem to get to the next level of speed required to be near the podium?
I say give the kids a chance, give them rigid.
Night and day didfference, so holding someone back to 'learn' on rigid is helpful? I disagree...
Both my ankles are f*cked, because i flatlanded waay to much on a hardtail.
Yea kind of see where your coming from.
But the 'oldies' who grew up on ridgid/hardtail/bmx are still crushing those who grew up on full sus... If there were 20-25 year olds winning dh then I would see the benifit...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tMEO5mOyIg
They are represent NZ National team racing World Cup BMX ser.
www.facebook.com/CyclingNZL/photos/a.1456598397761943.1073741853.112149808873482/1456603761094740/?type=3&theater
And ultimately, if parents can afford a full suspension mountain bike, they can definitely afford a bmx bike. Give the kid both and he'll be a rockstar on a bike.
Ha ha, not saying there aren't any younger players out there ;-) but look at Minnar and Gwin...
Why should kids like this have to wait untill they're big enough to handle a adult bike?
The Meek boys are perfect examples of this.
I rode Gorge Road dirt jumps with Toby Meek in April, And he got through the biggest set there before I did - And he did it all clipped into his race bmx.
These kids can ride - don't be bitter that amazing bikes like this weren't available for kids when we were learning to ride.
Keep it up Meeks!
They are already on the n+1 program and will ride the dirt jumps and XC stuff on a hardtail and ride shuttle stuff on this.
The kid who's a spoiled brat and doesn't have "it" and get this, might never progress...and then his trailer queen will hopefully be sold used to someone who can actually put it to good use.
In a world filled with ridiculous overpriced toys, this really doesn't make me cringe (that much).
I also think such nice components are a waste on a kid's bike: kids kill things. Imagine trying to get a ten year old to understand to never touch the rotors or pads, or to never scratch a stanchion laying their bike down on a pile of rocks.
For a kid that races, that's into it even it seems crazy. If it's that competitive and serious then no child is going to have fun doing it, we'll just end up with kids that hate mountain biking the way some kids hate violin, or team sports.
I really don't see the point except for a parents ego.
That and my kid on a commencal kids bike will put your kid on a carbon fiber wumderbike right into the wall. Right. In. The. Wall.
I would say that after my son does a good solid few years on a fully rigid bike (which forces you to find smooth lines) then he can graduate to something that will allow him to go faster and handle bigger terrain. Bravo to this company for offering high end stuff that will fit all sizes of kids. I just hope parents use a little sense when thinking about what their child needs vs what they would like them to have.
This is merely a niche a company is trying to service and that's okay too.
In retrospect I think my initial response probably came in a little hot but we can't edit so here we are (shrug emoji) lol
Ultimately I know my opinion on whether or not these bikes exist is irrelevant. If someone makes them and someone buys them and they're not nukes, it's all good.
I have known them for 9 years and they are a middle income hard working down do earth people.
Dad is a Downhill purist, an amazing rider and an incredible Father. His kids are BMX champions who have been riding from day dot. Both boys are incredibly humble, honest caring children who look after and appreciate their equipment.
The bikes are a result of years of Dad custom making / modifying / cutting / welding adult bikes to fit small children so the kids can have more travel to hit the big stuff and have the same high end components that adults enjoy.
Check out their instagram page @meekboys or simply look for them on the DH World Cup circuit in a few years. They are going all the way without a shadow of a doubt.
Ride On.
I do believe in getting kids on bikes that are well built and specd well so they can spend more time enjoying biking without the worry of breakdowns, shoddy shifting, hard to handle braking and all, but $6-9000 is a bit extreme.
You know what I'm really digging? Breathing new life into the cool old bikes from yesteryear. Had a coworker build up a small Voodoo frame for his 10 year old... hardest part was finding a decent fork with a non-tapered steer tube. All in, I think he was still under $900 for a light, sweet bike. All the dads dig it because of the history, and the kids dig it because it's bright orange and rides nice.
www.julianabicycles.com/en/us
Don't get me wrong, if I could solve world hunger and water access issues by only riding my klunker cruiser, I'd sign up. I agree buying second hand is a better option (esp. for kids) but buying local food, planting trees, reducing driving and a variety of vounteer/philanthropic efforts will have more impact than not riding lift access on fancy toys.
This subject of youth mountain bike builds is by far the most popular of any of the blogs I've written. Week-in, week-out, the pages related the XS Demo 8 build on my website draw more traffic than anything else. Any parent that has followed their 85 pound child down a DH track/trail at over 20 mph knows why proper suspension and geometry is critical. Traction and stability at speed. (Safety and skills progression))
As soon as your kid grows they need a new size bike.
So you sell the bike they out grow and buy the next size up.
Every one wins.
Excuse me sir. Im looking for a used carban dualy for my son.
Yes we have this beauty half price. Only 4000$.
Sigh.
All the same i luv the look of these pint sized uber bikes
I fail to see how a rider sized for 24" wheels needs 180mm of travel but if he's found a market then good for him.
100 units..wow... That's actually hugely impressive.. but how many are sold to kids that actually ride/shred them?
100 Saudi princes I can see...
I wound up buying a small 2006ish SWorks Enduro and putting the 24" wheels on it. At least as he grows I have the 26 wheels to put back on.
But I think that's about as much as I was going to spend.
And a bmx .
And then watch what they can do on a DH bike
( Arron Gwin )
Seriously ya some folks have the cash flow to buy these for there kids , but I agree the kids will learn zero value from one of these bike. This is a let's drop the kids of at gravity camp and go to the spa kinda parents
My kids are gonna learn on a bmx , then a 50 mini
Then progress from there
I would recommend buying used xs sized adult full suspension 26" bike with air sprung suspension for a 7-9 years old kid with height of 130 cm of more. You get a bike for years and decent tire options on that size. And the price will be reasonable. At least that's what I did.
We met them in Queenstown in April, and holy guacamole - these boys can ride.
To everyone saying "kids should learn on hardtails" - both the Meek boys spend a lot of time on their BMX race bikes and could probably beat most of us down garbanzo while riding 20"race bmx.
Keep an eye on these guys - they're the future.
However, despite how much I love my daughters, I think a cheaper option will do. Spawn cycles is one. There are also several others who make decent FS for kids for a fraction of this price.
BUT, I love the fact that these guys are building super high end bikes for kids. I hope they find their niche and succeed. I would consider droppin 3k $ on a bike for my daughter when she turns 8 or 9 and show talent and interest. But I would be hard pressed to more than double that...
But there are a lot of millionaires out there, and if they got keen kids...GO FOR IT!
How can you ask someone to ride without a dropper?
It's child abuse!!!