Mondraker Announces Integrated 'MIND' Telemetry System on Flagship Models

Feb 9, 2021
by James Smurthwaite  

Most riders will adjust their suspension by feel alone and can be shooting in the dark when it comes to finding an optimal setup. For example, what feels plush through your hands and in your head may actually be robbing you of valuable speed on the trail. This is why many racers fly overseas to specific suspension testing locations or use custom telemetry systems on their bikes while practicing on tracks before racing. Some companies, such as BYB or Motion Instruments, have tried to make this technology available for consumers too, although it comes at a price, with both of those systems costing upwards of $1,000 for a full set, and is predominantly aimed at professional racers looking to eke every millisecond out of their set up

Sensors are placed on the top linkage and in the steerer tube

Now, Mondraker wants to put that technology in its customers' hands and its top of the range models will come fitted with an integrated, proprietary system that offers help setting up suspension and tracks ride data. The system is called Mind and partners with the myMondraker app to take the 'feel' out of setting up suspension.

Developed over three years, the system will be fitted to the brand's Foxy Carbon and Crafty Carbon models. Mondraker says it will "take your bike's handling to the next level" and represents "a watershed moment in the future of suspension set-up and the subsequent experience for the rider."

The system is made up of two sets of components - a magnet fitted to the main pivot which is paired with a sensor on the top linkage, then another magnet fitted to the top of the fork lowers paired with the main hardware unit that fits into the steerer tube. The sensors on the linkage and in the steerer tube detect the strength of the magnetic fields 100 times per second to determine how much travel is being used; the further through the travel you are, the stronger the signal detected from the magnets. This information is added to GPS data that the system also collects and it is all fed back to the myMondraker app, which can tell riders to make changes to all of the adjustments including preload, compression and rebound according to their weight and riding style.

Mondraker says, "Want to compare lines on a downhill? Mind gives you all the info you need to decide whether to take the left line or the right. Bottoming out after landing a jump? Mind tells you where, when and how it happened and shows you whether you need to improve your technique or adjust your suspension settings for the next time around."

Magnets placed on the lowers and at the main pivot are used by the sensors to detect the amount of travel used.

This system may be less sophisticated than the aftermarket systems listed above that can include accelerometers, gyroscopes and brake sensors, but it's definitely a new, and cheaper, way of tackling the problem that should take some of the mysticism out of set up.

Other Features

The system can also measure a variety of other bits of data including ride data such as average speed, total distance, time and elevation gain, and this can all be shared with apps such as Strava or on Facebook. It also tracks your total airtime and this can be overlaid onto maps.

Finally, the system has a built-in alarm and anti-theft system. If the bike is moved the user will receive a warning on their smartphone and if it turns out the bike is being stolen then the app will help the user track its position.


bigquotesOffering World Cup technology to non-professional riders is our target. It’s been an uphill struggle to develop an integrated system which offers simple and comprehensible data for all types of rider but we’ve done it. Obtaining real information from one of the least understood parts of a bike will allow our riders to unlock the full potential of their bikes. Our unwavering aim is to make Mondraker riders better riders.—Luís Martínez, Global Product Manager

bigquotesWe’re truly excited about Mind because from now on we’ll be pedalling with a full-blown telemetry system built into our bikes. Regardless of how we feel on each ride we can now compare these feelings with real data and that’s priceless! I’m even more excited that everyone who rides a Mondraker will from now on be able to enjoy the benefits of a properly set up bike. When I’m riding in the mountains I see a lot of badly set up bikes and that won’t happen with Mind!

Each and every rider, regardless of their skill set, fitness will be able to set their suspension up quickly and easily. To sum up, all Mind users will achieve two things: more speed and more fun.—Miguel Pina, CEO

The full Mind system adds around 200 grams of weight to the bike. There are separate batteries for the front and rear sensors that offer 20 hours of continuous run time or 15 days of life on standby. Each system is linked to a bike's serial number so is apparently not transferrable between bikes.

Initially, the system will only be available to European customers and on the Foxy Carbon and Crafty Carbon models, however, it plans to implement the system across its range in future. The system adds €200-€300 to the price of the bike depending on the model, models start from €7,499 for the Crafty Carbon and €4,999 for the Foxy Carbon. More info, here.

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177 Comments

  • 141 10
 personally I feel like there are tons of other things I'd like to see on a bike before suspension telemetry, but hats of to mondraker for trying new things.
  • 57 2
 What are your top 3 things that you want on a bike that don't exist yet?
  • 60 0
 @steflund: Mind-controlled suspension and dropper?
  • 70 69
 @steflund: 1) Gearboxes, 2) high pivot refinement and further testing/availability, 3) Linkage forks.
  • 144 9
 @steflund:
1) An efficient gearbox. 2) A trigger shifter with single cable that shifts said gearbox. 3) No upcharge for said gearbox over a normal drivetrain.
  • 12 1
 @steflund: May be worth broadening the question to include things that do exist and would offer customers a more appealing return on investment.

I've seen very poor set-ups on very expensive bikes, so this may be worthwhile.
  • 3 3
 If they provided a white paper or study or something that proved the benefits of this telemetry, I might be tempted. Otherwise, just upgrade my component spec please.
  • 15 16
 @steflund: gearbox as efficient as derailleur, linkage forks. Magnetorheological suspension or better that suspension BOSE made that keeps the chassis level no matter the bump, full graphene or better yet carbyne frame, wheels and fork legs. Wireless ABS brakes with traction control. Geometry that automatically adjusts to the steepness and roughness of the terrain and cornering. Something akin to the omni directional wheel so we can also strafe side to side on our bikes as well as riding forwards etc...... I'll skip the E-bike bit, don't need that nonsense....and then errrm yea... We can take a look at this telemetry.
  • 22 2
 @steflund: AXS dropper, that both retracts, and extends at the push of a button. I’m sure its coming, and I’d spend good money on it when it arrives.
I cant get good cable routing to my dropper post (V1 Sentinel) and having to weight the saddle to get it out of the way has always made me think there’s a better way.

Other than that, I think bikes in general are amazing machines now a days. I remember the “good ol free ride days” of slugging 45lb bikes to the top of a mountain, and breaking something on the way down.

I know the total cost of these bikes is fairly high for some people, but this added telemetry seems like a cheap add on to them, I bet they do well selling the upgrade.
  • 4 0
 @tgent: dont those all exist already?
  • 2 0
 @Chridel: it's the obvious end result of this system. this is the beta. clearly we are going ot see a Ohlins based "live valve" system shortly.
  • 6 3
 @steflund: oh yeah, and tire treads that I can zip on and off at the top of a run,
Semi slick, fast rolling to get me to the top, then BAM, zip on a full 2.5 soft tread for the ride back down.

Store the sticky tread in some sort of frame “box” so I dont have to carry it on my back
  • 7 2
 @MTBrent: LOL. you just asked for a thing that will cost milions of dollars to R&D and manufacture, and then said you're not willing to pay for it.


choosing begger much??
  • 2 0
 @onawalk: Dropper treads lol
  • 2 0
 @Danzzz88: You've seen the 'BMXTREMO' right? Omnidirectional, auto-shralping radness. The future is now, just not available in sizes over 20in...
  • 1 0
 @onawalk: Only with very limited availability. Can't get any of that from Mondraker at least. Zerode with their gearbox bikes aren't really taking off, Trust with the most promising linkage fork is out of business for the time being, there aren't many high pivot bikes available (Forbidden, Norco, and a few downhill bikes).
  • 12 4
 @tgent: TRUST is out of business because apart from the fork being overpriced and ugly..it's a stupid design even for a linkage fork. Who wants a backwards axle path on the front wheel so your front centre shortens even more under compression potentially sending you over the bars whilst simultaneously making hucks to flat harsh as hell all accompanied by a shitty damper. There is literally nothing about that fork that was groundbreaking or even desireable.
  • 31 0
 I'd like an tablet integrated into the handlebar so a group of redditors can encourage me to hold the line when riding rooty offcambers.
  • 1 0
 @Danzzz88: Hadn't actually heard of Carbyne, so thanks for the intro, but doubtful itwill happen in our lifetime based on wiki. Still super interesting. Have you heard of meaningful developments other than the wiki?

"As of 2010, the longest such chain in a stable molecule had 22 acetylenic units (44 atoms)"

also,

"...existence in condensed phases has been contested recently, as such chains would crosslink exothermically (and perhaps explosively) if they approached each other."
  • 2 0
 @skeeple: Judging by the development rate of even Graphene yea Carbyne won't happen in our lifetime...it exists theoretically as the strongest material in the world but we will all be going around with Neurolink's in our brains before that becomes a viable material.. most of what I wrote was a joke... I mean I would like to see efficient gearboxes implemented, stronger and lighter carbon composites and some sort of advanced live valve that adjusts compression, rebound etc depending on impact strength etc... I think those are all viable ... but the rest is just pie in the sky stuff. I guess one thing that needs resolving soon though is tread wrap on tyres, more wrap on larger casings and better rubber would bring noticeable improvements.
  • 3 0
 @Danzzz88: Not hating, but just to be clear, you want wheels that can allow the bike to strafe side to side, but think an ebike and integrated telemetry systems are nonsense?
  • 1 0
 @tgent: Yeah, but it exists.
Availability is a different story altogether. If the ecosystem believes it works, and it has competitive advantages, it’ll take off and be more widely available.
  • 4 2
 @Riddler7: it was a joke, though it would be cool.. Still I want my bicycle to remain a bicycle.. if I start adding motors, might as well go all out, add 4 wheels, a roll cage, 1000hp v8.... Oh yea a hill climb buggy.
  • 4 0
 @steflund: technology going into making the sport more affordable while increasing the durability of parts tops my list
  • 7 0
 @steflund:

1. long-tavel, single crown forks that never creak
2. rear derailleur clutches that are reliable and quiet over extended periods of time
3. headtubes that grow proportionately along with reach and other aspects of geometry
  • 5 0
 @Danzzz88: All telescopic forks have a rearward axle path unless your head angle is greater than 90 degrees.

I’m not sure how you would make a front axle move forward on impact
  • 5 3
 @steflund: 1) more tailored cock pit options (i have very broad shoulders and big hands so finding bars that work and don't kill my hands is a challenge)
2) tire clearance to run any wheel options from 27.5+ to 29er
3) BRING BACK THE TALAS
  • 1 1
 @conoat: I didn’t ask for anything. Just stated what I ‘want’, not ‘expect.’

Choosing beggar? Yes, very much so.
  • 4 0
 @steflund: Climb switch that raises the rear suspension
  • 2 0
 @CM999: yes I know, but the TRUST fork amplifies the rearward axle path greatly. It is possible with linkage forks to create a design that creates a slacker virtual head angle on deep compression, the Motionride E18 is an example of this... In the last 3rd of travel the wheelbase actually extends again.
  • 1 0
 @Chridel: Possibly you could have a load sensor and a angle sensor built in to a dropper post, set up so if angled down hill and unweighted it gets out the way, start going back up hill for a couple of seconds and pops back up. wouldn't be right 100% of time but "60% of the time, it works every time". - Ron Burgundy
  • 3 0
 @Bungalow-bikes: Actually it's a quote from Brian Fantana ;-)
i.pinimg.com/originals/bd/0c/8b/bd0c8b14c8b8850ed337469096309642.png
  • 1 1
 @Danzzz88: not to belabor the point about Trust being quality or not, but you realize that telescopic forks have a backward axle path too, yeah? how much is a function of HTA and ATC, but they too move backwards.
  • 2 0
 @CM999: that would be f*cking terrible. lol. talk about momentum killers!
  • 1 0
 @conoat: refer to my post a few posts up..
  • 1 0
 @MTBrent:
  • 2 0
 @bikeboarder: I stand corrected. my mistake.
  • 2 0
 @Danzzz88: Now that I am up here, I will say, the last thing I want in a fork is for it to start pushing the front wheel forward at deep compression. that's going to both inhibit rollover like a mofo, as well as amplify the force of a compression to the rider. that sounds horrendous.
  • 1 0
 @conoat: well we are talking small amounts here and not neccessarily pu...it's a case of shing forwards but becoming more vertical. It's a case of preserve plushness vs preserve geometry..by the time you are deep in the travel shaft compression speed will be so much lower that it makes sense to preserve geometry and stop the wheel tucking under you more than harshness becoming a factor...harshness is mostly down to the initially hit and start of compression providing you don't bottom out.
  • 1 0
 @Danzzz88: There are a lot of complex dynamics going on under compression and braking with the rearward axle path just being one part of it. Having a Trust on both a hardtail and FS (admittedly obtained when the price dropped after the shutdown), it can be incredible, but is definitely not for everyone. For big hucks, wrong tool - like using a screwdriver to pound in nails. It is at its best by far on the hardtail, where you have only weight shifts and fork movement to contend with. The handling, traction and ability to lean hard on that front tire under all conditions is incredible. The bike is unperturbed by any terrain or ham-fasted riding. I certainly hope that this design path will be explored again in the future.
  • 1 1
 @Danzzz88: you seem to want to optimize for preservation of geometry over harshness, but are forgetting(or ignoring) that in your scenario, you are talking about a timeframe measured in milliseconds. The geo going slightly wonky for a 100-200 milliseconds vs a huge spike in harshness and momentum zapping forward axle path is a terrible tradeoff.
  • 2 1
 @Danzzz88: I wish I could upvote this a million times. I still can't believe there were people stupid enough to buy that piece of shit trust fork. And YES I have ridden it. It sucks.
  • 2 0
 @conoat: well at the end of the day wherever there is compromises or trade offs there will be opinions of preferences...just chat with Chris Porter and his theory on damping and geometry for an example of that...for me I don't want a wheel that will tuck under at high speed, ofc going 5mph over a curb in the street the TRUST probably feels better but whwn I'm hurtling down a mountain at 25mph or more slamming into rocks and jumps I want to know my weight is as far behind that front axle as possible.
  • 3 0
 @steflund: And if we are wishing here,
Auto inflating tires, to go along with the zip off treads,
100 psi for the fire road climbs, 21 for the sticky rip down!

A pocket version of the “godfather” which should be able to assist in either climbing or descending!
  • 1 1
 @Danzzz88: "I want to know my weight is as far behind that front axle as possible"


this sounds like it was typed in 2003
  • 2 0
 @steflund: endo correction technology, keeps font wheel up when airborne
  • 2 0
 @steflund:
More affordable electric derailleurs, gearboxes, and more non-creaking forks
  • 1 0
 @Danzzz88: When my friends with regular drivetrains (xt 12 speed, xo1 eagle) jump on my zerode with pinion, many have said mine feels like it has less drag. Likely because it’s many years old and only gets better and smoother with time
  • 1 0
 They are very good at pushing the envelope, something I've always been impressed with by them as a company.
  • 2 0
 What ever happened to the USE anti-Dive fork? I think anti-dive technology not applied in the damper had way more potential than a rearward axle path fork. That, plus rearward axle path rear suspension coming to a lower price bracket, and greater availability of custom geometry bikes from low volume builders. There seems to be loads of them on PB these days.
But there you go, three dream progression points that aren't very far away.
  • 1 0
 i have a dream: integrated telemetry + magnetorheological dampers.
  • 1 0
 @Bruccio: "I had a dream... once"
  • 1 0
 @Bruccio: magnetorheological suspension wouldn't even be that hard to implement, especially on E bikes where you already have a massive battery for juice... They are relatively simple just like any other dampers just with a ferrous fluid inside instead of normal damping fluid, a few electromagnets and a circuit to control...imo a much better implementation than this live valve nonsense..by the time you open a valve on live valve with a servo motor you could probably have switched on and off an electro magnet 50 times, well in theory much more depending on the hz of the system and the rate at which it can gather information from the trail...in fact I'd be surprised if not any electronic engineer with a bit of mechanical and damping knowledge wouldn't be able to convert a pre-existing shock to do this.
  • 1 0
 It's funny to me that Pinkbikers think electronics are so "complicated". I've dabbled in a few DIY suspension telemetry systems and they are cheap and fun. You can buy the parts to diy a system like this for $100 with basic arduino gear off adafruit or sparkfun. It will be less reliable, durable, and accurate than a production system but you can do it. I can't imagine even trying to make my own handlebar or crank. If you've ever thought about a DIY bike project I highly recommend something electronic, it's far cheaper and easier than anything involving mechanical parts that requires a garage full of expensive machine equipment.
  • 1 0
 @dthomp325: well 'complicated' is a relative term... Playing around with breadboard, a few transistors, resistors, diodes etc and following some Youtube tutorials or Google and buying an Arduino board is a far cry from fabricating an integrated circuit, etching your own boards and programming machine code... Anyone witha bit of interest in engineering or knowledge and an iq above 100 can dabble in these things and have a basic understanding, especially with all the knowledge of the internet... It's being interested enough, arsed to do it, finding the time and the money that is the biggest issue for anything like this for anyone with more than a peanut for a brain.
  • 1 0
 @Danzzz88: You don't need to fabricate an integrated circuit for DIY stuff tough, that's only needed for miniaturizing or preparing something to be made as an actual product, and even then the tools you need to do it are WAY cheaper and easier to learn than something like a CNC machine or tig welder you'd need to make a mechanical part. You just make the design on your computer and then someone in China makes it for you. Plus testing electronics is fast and easy compared to proper destructive testing of mechanical parts.
  • 1 0
 @dthomp325: Until you fail your first smoke test and end up with a hole in one of your microcontrollers Smile
  • 1 0
 I guess that's why they're putting it on top of the line models that already have the best of the best, or at least what Mondraker consider the best of the best.
  • 1 0
 @Louisd2000: good point. I still feel like most people probably don't need to be tweaking their suspension as much as they do. Idk though, maybe i'm just jaded from working in so many bike shops and I'm sick of people buying stuff they don't need, and doing things to their bikes they don't understand. Then they tell everyone how they "work on their own bikes" and eventually have to come have us undo all the havoc they've wreaked on their suspension and drivetrain.
  • 1 0
 @TotalAmateur: I'm familiar with the situation... And I do agree with you and lots of the other comments about other things that I'd rather have before telemetry, but I guess once you've upgraded everything there is to upgrade that's the next logical step
  • 71 1
 Pinkbikers: We are tired of incremental changes and bike companies that don’t take risks and just go along with the status quo. We want innovation!

Also Pinkbikers: This new idea departs too radically from the norm. It frightens and confuses us! And will also be expensive! Bike companies — stop trying milk us for everything we’ve got for pointless “innovation.”
  • 5 0
 TheR: GET OUT OF MY HEAD!
  • 50 0
 providing vital information to those who need it the least
  • 13 0
 It will tell me if I need to adjust the suspension or "improve my technique." Spoiler: It's the latter.
  • 34 1
 To me the gem here is the built-in anti-theft system that lets you track the bike's location if it's stolen...that's awesome. How sweet would it be to know exactly where to go "steal" your bike back and leave a flaming bag of poo.
  • 3 0
 Check out Snik Bike!! They are still in development but have great plans for 2021.

www.snik.app
  • 3 1
 But I don't get how is it possible for the bike to send its location without a SIM card.
  • 4 0
 Thanks for the mention @tylermdc !! @sarahallen I can really appreciate your flaming bag of poo idea! Maybe we can build that functionality into the software.

Yes, we've spent the last year or so developing a hardware/software solution that can be installed in any bike. We've been through MANY iterations, and explored every possible location of the bike. What I can say is we're getting close now and you will be seeing something on Pinkbike in the near future!!!

Follow along Instagram to stay in the loop! @snik.bike
  • 32 1
 Suspension can't be confusing if you don't have it XD
  • 8 0
 Bikes don't mean a lot of maintenance and spendings if you just reading PB.
  • 27 0
 Yes...that's why I'm stopping mid-ride. To adjust my suspension and tire pressure...nothing to do with my physical condition.
  • 10 1
 Sure, this might seem gimmicky now but so was suspension when it first came out with elastomer spring assemblies, or when disc brakes hit the market, or carbon fiber, 29er. etc.. Soon enough these telemetry sensors will be able to adjust your suspension on the fly. I also suspect we will see it become internal to the fork/shock. For example, you won't buy a specific tune for a specific bike. You'll simply load an app on your phone, scan your bike in the suspension app and it will adjust accordingly. Once on the trail, it will update your tune as needed.
  • 2 0
 Most riders would benefit more from being more thorough and scientific in the fundamental setup of their gear rather than by adding yet another layer of complexity.
  • 1 0
 @alexsin: I agree. Many riders don't pay enough attention to their respective setups. I'm merely hypothesizing future tech based on this story. That said, I'm stuck tuning bikes for my family of four and think a Auto-Tune platform would be pretty sweet.
  • 1 0
 Holy jesus, are you saying I just bought a new 27.5 to replace my 26 and in a few years I'm going to have to buy another new bike because of changing standards! I'm just gonna take up knitting.
  • 14 2
 Cool idea but another thing that’s not for me
  • 8 6
 It's cool and all. But what we really want simple bikes that work great, are affordable and hold up. Add a water bottle mount and a long dropper if possible. Thanks.
  • 10 0
 Came for the suspension, stayed for the comedy ibex
  • 3 0
 I thought the ibex needed a speaking role. It could be a sarcastic, chain-smoking ibex who's natural instincts and traits have been completely obliterated by their exposure to modern human society - like Alf or Brian from Family guy or something.
  • 9 0
 Magnets?! How the f*ck do they work?!
  • 11 5
 electronics, data, performance enhancement... Sometimes I miss the old freeride days of beer, bikes and fun. No need for progress, just a ride in the woods
  • 2 1
 Totally agree, but what do you mean by "No need for progress" without telemetry?

Paradoxically the more you think about riding and the less you think about marginal things like telemetry and the more you progress.

Telemetry makes sense for a (race) pro in a high-level competition where every detail and second counts. But first you have to become a pro and to become one you have to riding, riding, riding every day (at a young age, as a child or teenager) and don't think about telemetry..

The continuous research for tech upgrade for their mtb, by the average dentist mtb-user, reminds me more of the world of radio-controlled car modeling (if not static modeling) than an action sport ..
  • 4 0
 This is fucking dope. As someone who takes months to get a bike feeling good, I think this is an incredible idea to help people who don't need or want to go down the rabbit hole of understanding suspension get their bike feeling good faster. I'm not everyone, but hey, if ya don't like it don't buy it.
  • 5 0
 i haven't tried a lot of stuff so i might be wrong but most suspension manufacturers still can't shim their stuff legitimately and here we have "telemetry".

oh snap,
  • 2 0
 For a lot of riders, properly utilized MIND would result in larger speed improvements than most other high end parts. Pretty cool they were able to integrate this AND include GPS tracking for theft protection. Very cool. Would not have sold my Foxy if it had longer chain-stays, it's a great bike if not a great value.
  • 2 0
 Tech curiosity, I wonder how they manage calibrating the hall effect sensor drift out. Its been a few years, but a previous employer was trying to do distance sensing with a magnet to operate a trigger. Proved difficult to do long term repeatably with out having the sensors configured in an array that would let them determine when the magnet was a max and min distance and re calibrate. Not an electronics expert here, just curious.
  • 1 0
 Idk, but it seems like a cool idea to try. I built a sensor like this using lidar and it worked great in some conditions, but bright sunlight would mess up the readings. Gonna order some parts and try this!
  • 2 0
 Pretty cool idea. I always wonder whos behind the recommended settings in these apps. We all have that buddy whose setup seems terrible when we ride their bike but they destroy us both us and down.
  • 1 0
 The app is just going to give you numbers based on the terrain you test it on. I would argue without brake sensors that it pretty pointless. It isnt about feel, it removes feel from the equation. You comfort will be disregarded for speed and optimal traction.
  • 1 0
 Put all that work into a suspension tuning kit, and then run a little air shock, that's overheats and turns into a oil milkshake. ...I've been a bit disappointed with the last 2 mondrakers I've had.... they do something really good, then ruin it with one stupid detail. I think the corporates who don't ride have to have the final say and end up ruing things over there.
  • 3 0
 Awesome! Now not just my friends, but an app can tell me how slow and how bad my technique is! Jokes aside this is pretty sweet.
  • 3 1
 Wonderful! Soon I will need to take my secretary riding with me.....”monypeny, see that that these data graphs get faxed over to the bike shop urgently! I need a softer initial touch any more mid stroke support......”
  • 3 1
 I'm only interested in this so I can figure out how to lock out someone else's bike while they're riding it. Imagine XC eliminators with electronic interference moves - teh lulz
  • 2 1
 It’s always good to see this kind of things and I’m all in favor ,but please make better seals on the forks and shocks,cause they don’t really work that fine ,and yes please please start giving the buyer some coil options on the bikes ,cause air really doesn’t perform very well ,when I ride my old fox 36 van (26”)the smoth of it is unbelievable comparing to a lyric debonair 27,5 ,and not to talk about maintenance,that’s why they want us to buy air ,it’s not for I can sell and adjust it to everyone,it’s all about making money,but hey monkey see monkey wants,be safe
  • 1 0
 it's my JOB as the cranky old man in the comments threads to keep the thread balanced by adding a daily dose of dissent ,
So in that spirit , " are you fking kidding me " ? Just shut up and ride . all this hair splitting type technology won't make you a better rider or ramp up your level of enjoyment but rather create waves of uncertainty before a ride in the form of
" oh crap , i forgot to ultra fine tune my front suspension , install my new ten piston brakes with wireless levers and
bring my new air bag helmet.
  • 2 0
 Just take all the cheesy "high tech" sounds found in every network cop TV show and pack them into a mountain bike video.

When was the last time you heard a computer chirp like then when it was processing something?
  • 1 0
 Com-put-er? Whats that?

Is it the box in the corner with all the reels on the front and the flashing light bulbs across the top. Is that the thing that lets me know "You've got mail"?
  • 1 0
 Mondraker will acces to all that information not only hiting the nail for its own new buyers with more accuratte settings but getting a gold mine of data just for free. I ride bikes for disconect, not for being "connected"/"controled".
  • 2 1
 I don't even carry my cell with me on rides, no earbuds jammed in my ears or do I ever use that GD Strava. I don't ride hard enough or go fast enough for this to even matter, I just want to ride and have fun not worry about suspension and or telemetry, wth?
  • 1 0
 Excellent, expensive electronics can now tell me what my preferred suspension settings should be... Hopefully soon they can tell me what tire pressure to run and when my water is getting low. Oooh how about adaptive cruise control?
  • 1 0
 I dig seeing technology like this added to bikes but when new technology or rather new but different methods of tech are being used it makes me question it.

1. Since the device is fitter directly under the steerer and on the linkage of the rear shock does caked on mud interfere with the data collected?

2. The use of magnets makes me wonder If they are using magnets that attract or repell. If they use repelling magnets then to some degree (even if you can't feel it) will slow the fork down. Does the device compensate for this?
  • 5 1
 And I thought the Norco app was cool, well done Mondraker.
  • 4 0
 Looks like someone caught a glimpse of Loic's bike last year...
  • 6 6
 1990s: toe clips made irrelevant with clipless.
... BMX-background riders using flats were already clipless.

2021: guesswork made irrelevant with the Mind system.
... BMX-background riders using flats were already mindless.
  • 1 0
 y, bmx background riders took out the springs from their suspension and put in pieces of wood
  • 1 0
 amazing!!
but it was obvious the "i hate progression and future" community aka pinkbike won't like it.

but seriously what a crap video for such a great invention!
antilope at 1.02 is the pinacle.
  • 2 0
 Interesting but most people would benefit more from spending €200-300 on a testing day with a suspension specialist, like TF Tuned, Mojo etc.
  • 2 0
 No integration of TPMS valves to tell the guys that don't check their tire pressure before every ride that it's more important than their damper settings?
  • 3 0
 Goodbye “I was just riding along minding my own business and it broke” warranty claims
  • 1 0
 2022 Mondraker XC bikes will all have holes in the seats and a corresponding hole at the junction of the down and seat tube to allow racers to poop without getting off the bike. Pretty sure it'll be known as the Poop Chute
  • 1 0
 Personally it seems like a good idea, providing it does what it says and isn't a gimmick. However, as it's bike specific I wonder if investing in a shockwiz would be a better option.
  • 1 0
 I see ShockWiz on a decent number of bikes, once you get to a more serious quality of rider. It's cool this system is integrated with the bike.
  • 4 3
 It's not telemetry, it's data logging. Telemetry would be if the data logged is radioed to another location, as in a race car beaming data to the pits.
  • 2 0
 Did I miss something, or don't the sensors wirelessly transmit the data to your phone in real time?
  • 1 0
 @Chuckolicious: I stand corrected!
  • 4 0
 @slowmoe: Pedants UNITE! :-D
  • 1 0
 I GET IT! Its like an E Bike with the motor assist. All tne drawback with non of the benefits! I definitely need a computer to tell me when I bottomed out.
  • 1 1
 Also, for the "If I wanted electronics on my bike I'd buy an ebike" people, that's like saying a mouse and grizzly are the same animal cause they're both mammals. Just don't buy it if you don't like it.
  • 1 0
 After a massive OTB mind tells you to mind the rebound button and be a little bit more mindful when turning it into the wrong direction
  • 3 0
 Why not just throw in some lidar to see the bumps coming?
  • 1 0
 Yup. Plus motors to advance and retract the suspension so we don't even feel the bumps. And gyros and thrusters for attitude control. Actually just skip the wheels and make the whole bike levitate. Like Return of the Jedi, but please, no Ewoks.
  • 3 0
 Technology these days is MIND blowing!
  • 1 0
 I just liked the fact they describe is as a "watershed moment" instead of "Its a game changer." Cudos for the creativity.
Also the telemetry is pretty rad.
  • 2 0
 Holy crap, its Jason Bourne.
  • 5 4
 If your spending that much on a bike you should be pretty handy at setting your suspension up.
  • 1 0
 I guess when this inevitably runs out due to Covid they’ll be out of their minds!
  • 3 1
 Next year can we have teleportation to zap me to the top of the mountain?
  • 1 0
 neat system particularly the movement sensor. The suspension tuning is only as good as the algorithm it uses though.
  • 2 0
 The antelope was super impressed.
  • 1 0
 Translation: Mondraker just increased the price of their already high priced bikes.
  • 1 0
 Seems like a good option for semipro racers or those that want to get to that level
  • 2 1
 Something else to track you, and send you ads on bike parts and or places to ride... after they sell your information.
  • 2 0
 $300 for a sensor to tell me I'm slow? Seems steep.
  • 1 0
 BUT why shouldnet you just install a shockwix for some rides? Other than beeing able to use with coil suspension
  • 1 0
 They can't even engineer frames properly.. they have zero chance with this.
  • 1 0
 This is pretty cool actually. But realistically, how many of us are out there going for timed laps on our mopeds... LOL
  • 1 0
 Between this and MotoGP sponsorships, Mondraker is gonna get too expensive!
  • 2 0
 Hal called.... he wants his monolith back
  • 1 0
 I'm really looking forward to reading some reviews - collecting data is easy, getting meaningful insights from data isn't.
  • 2 0
 Cool idea!
  • 2 0
 Mind your own business!
  • 2 0
 Nifty
  • 3 2
 2022 be like do you want the bikeplay or googlepedal version
  • 3 3
 I own a Mondraker Foxy. If I wanted electronics on my bike, I'll buy an Ebike -thanks
  • 1 1
 Not sure if my MIND is set...seems like they are trying to go LIVE with their VALVES to beat the smart FOX out in the wild.
  • 1 0
 Panicking about how my mudguard fits here!
  • 1 0
 Why? I can't see a problem.
  • 1 0
 @Reignrob: pretty certain it would crack off the top part before full compression. Not sure of the part on the stanchion would get in the way of some too
  • 1 0
 great idea! I look forward to it.
  • 1 0
 Specialized: Brain

Mondraker:MIND
  • 1 0
 Here we go again, mondraker changing the game.
  • 2 0
 I ride bikes for fun !
  • 1 0
 Great job Mondraker! You nailed it! That's future.
  • 1 0
 SkyNet approves this technology!
  • 1 0
 More money = more speed = more fun? C’mon!
  • 1 0
 Just what the doctor ordered.
  • 1 0
 Definitely nails the "elitist guy riding a mondraker chic"
  • 1 0
 The anti theft system is awesome
  • 1 0
 Super sick!
  • 3 3
 the guys seems like a douche
  • 1 2
 Typical Mondraker great idea, terrible execution. No doubt it will break in 5 minutes.
  • 2 0
 What makes the execution terrible?
  • 1 0
 ... It boggles
  • 1 0
 must hawe to any emoped
  • 6 7
 Dentists are gonna be hyped
  • 1 4
 Dangerholm should use this in his Spark Project to make it even more complex!
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