Mondraker Summum Carbon - First Ride

Nov 28, 2014
by Paul Aston  
Mondraker Summum Carbon


Mondraker have worked hard to keep the details of both their new carbon fiber, 27.5'' wheeled downhill bike and their latest rider signings under wraps until now. With news breaking that Danny Hart and Emmeline Ragot have signed on the dotted line for MS Mondraker, we present this new carbon framed evolution of the 205mm travel Summum that they plan to race aboard in 2015. The carbon frame carries over the trademarks of the previous - and still available - alloy frame, including Mondraker's progressive Forward Geometry and Zero Suspension system, and employs the 'Stealth Carbon' construction process that's used to build their 140mm travel Foxy trail shredder. Enhanced stiffness and precision, along with low weight, are the claims, and there's plenty of adjustment options to be found should you want to tune it to your liking. Sizing options include small, medium, and large, and Mondraker will release two complete bikes: the Marzocchi-sprung model at €5,999, and the Pro Team with FOX suspension that I rode at €8,099. There will also be a frame kit available for those who want to start from scratch. There is no North American distribution at this point in time, and therefore no set USD pricing, but that could change in the near future.


Summum Carbon Details

• Intended use: downhill
• Wheel size: 27.5''
• Rear wheel travel: 205mm
• Stealth Carbon frame
• Zero Suspension system
• Evolved Forward Geometry with FG20/30mm stem
• Adjustable chain stay: 445/450/455/460mm
• Adjustable head angle: +/-2°, +1/-1, 0°
• BB83 bottom bracket shell
• HHG Hidden Housing Guide internal routing
• Sizes: S (15.5"), M (17.5"), L (19")
• Frame weight: 2,837g (claimed, w/o shock)
• Weight: 32.87lb, (claimed, Pro Team)
• Lifetime Warranty
• Available December 2014


Mondraker Summum Carbon

Mondraker Summum Carbon


Mondraker Summum Carbon
  Mondraker's Israel Romero holds the first ever prototype of the Summum chassis. This is the very frame that raised Fabien Barel to the top of the podium in Maribor, on one of his many great comebacks from injury.



Frame Design

With those strange short stems and hump-back top tubes, Mondraker's bikes have often been love 'em or hate 'em sort of things. The new Summum Carbon frame heads down the path of the Foxy, though, using the brand's Stealth Carbon technology and has looks that will struggle to be disliked by even the most salty of riders. Compared to the alloy version, the top tube flows more smoothly and the lines are seamless, making the whole bike look a lot sleeker than its predecessor. Cables are tided up using the Hidden Housing Guides for both the shifter and 200mm direct mount rear brake, and a carbon fiber down tube protector and robust plastic chain stay guard are used as protection from rock strikes and chain slap. The carbon swing arm itself is formed to act as a mudguard as well as a adding to the structure, keeping the shock free of dirt and avoiding ungodly homemade versions using old tubes and too many zip-ties. Mondraker also believe that this frame is near un-breakable, and they offer a lifetime warranty to back it up. How's that for having confidence in their product?

Mondraker Summum Carbon
Mondraker Summum Carbon
  The new carbon frame is much sleeker than the old bike, not to mention quite a bit lighter.



Stealth Carbon - Mondraker says that their Stealth Technology is one of the most advanced carbon construction methods in the industry, and that the three years put towards developing the award winning Foxy Carbon gave them the know-how to produce the new Summum frame. The Vacuum Compression Process compacts the fibers after each layer has been completed in order to remove entrapped air and improve the epoxy bonds, and solid internal moulds made from biodegradable silicone allow for optimum compaction of the fibers while also being relatively simple to remove after the process is completed. The basic layout of the front triangle is borrowed from the Foxy, with the goal being to create the stiffest front triangle possible - the way the top tube splits as it joins the head tube tube is said to provide a huge amount of strength and stiffness. The finished result is a medium frame that weighs in at a claimed 2,837 grams without a shock, which is one of the lightest around.



Forward Geometry - Another feature found on all Mondrakers is their Forward Geometry. Five years of refinement is said to give the pilot better handling, stability and confidence. Mondraker were one of the first brands to really push the concept of longer top tubes and shorter stems which is an idea that's slowly being adopted by other brands, but rarely to the same degrees. The 10mm stems have taken a back seat to the in-house On/Off FG20mm and 30mm stems, although the ultra short version is still available as an aftermarket product for people looking to go to the limits.

What's the idea behind Forward Geometry? Anyone who has ridden both a pure cross-country bike with a long stem and more aggressive bike with a short stem on the same rowdy downhill can attest to which one made them fear for their life and which one had them looking for air time. But if using a short stem has that sort of effect, why not go to an even shorter stem?
Well, it isn't quite that simple, because employing a shorter than average stem on a bike with standard geometry will create a very awkward riding package that will feel too short in reach, as well as not place enough weight on the front wheel for proper handling when you're climbing and descending. That's why Mondraker uses longer front-center lengths that are designed around the short stems found on their bikes. Simply put, instead of Mondraker designing the bike around an average stem, they instead added that to the bike's front - center length and then went with a minuscule shorter 20 or 30mm stem to balance it out. The result is that the rider is in the same position, but the front wheel is further out in front of them and the bike's wheelbase is a longer.


Mondraker Summum Carbon
  The bike's 205mm of travel is controlled by Mondraker's Zero Suspension design.


Zero Suspension Design - Mondraker employs its 'virtual pivot system' across its entire range, with the rear shock floating between two links and being compressed from both ends. In the 205mm travel Summum Carbon the shock mounts run on needle roller bearings that Mondraker claims ''yields an unknown sensitivity in downhill bikes''. Both versions of the Summum Carbon feature the same Kashima treated FOX RC4 shocks, and Mondraker have developed exclusive settings to compliment their Zero system who's name comes from its claimed ability to neutralize braking and pedalling forces. The Zero Suspension System features new bearings, along with oversized axles and a newly designed lower link that have both been specifically reinforced for added rigidity.


Mondraker Summum Carbon
  The 5,999 EUR Summum Carbon will come with Marzocchi's R2C2 Ti fork, and it's no coincidence that the newly signed Danny Hart will be rocking Italy's finest in 2015.







Mondraker Summum Carbon


Thanks to the swift, WWII style uplift at La Fenasosa Bike Park, I managed plenty of runs on varied terrain with mostly sand and gravel under the tires but plenty of jumps, rocks and corners. I'm not going to pass this off as a review despite others possibly doing exactly that - it was too brief to call it that - although I did get enough saddle time to form a strong opinion on Mondraker's new downhill race machine.

I started with middle-of-the-road settings and a basic set-up thanks to some direction from the MS Mondraker Team mechanics. The usual sag, rebound, tire pressure, bar height and the all important brake lever angle were adjusted to my preference and I was off. I felt comfortable after only a few runs, and the pair of FOX's equally matched dampers felt spot on - throughout testing I only strayed a couple of clicks in either direction. The suspension feels near bottomless, with a smooth progression that didn't let on that it might have been getting close to the end of the stroke, and it feels like there is more in the bank when getting involved in the big stuff. Braking has no noticeable affect on the suspension action and pedalling is efficient, up to par with Mondraker's blurb.

Mondraker Summum Carbon
  The Summum felt far more maneuverable than its geo numbers would have you believe is possible.


Compared to other downhill bikes that I've put some time on recently, the Summum is roughly 6lbs lighter, which is closer to the weight of my current carbon 160mm bike. Bearing this in mind, the weight of the tubed, Schwalbe SuperGravity tires, added robustness of the bike and its monster trucking capabilities, the weight is pretty astonishing. The icing on the cake being that a big slice of the weight that is there is centralized low down between your shins. But what does this mean on the track? Direction changes were sharp and easy despite the slack angles and long footprint, and it's surprisingly easy to move around in the air and accelerate out of corners. Downsides? If your not on-point, deflection from your designated line choice might take you by surprise, it's that light. I experienced this when getting towed up to speed by MS Racing's Innes Graham during a maiden voyage on a new track, but, if you're racing, your path will hopefully be well rehearsed.
bigquotesThe low weight really helps you when it comes time to accelerate out of corners, but with the confidence you have entering them, you shouldn't need too many pedal strokes on exit.


Mondraker Summum Carbon
  I felt comfortable enough on the bike right off the bat to not shy away from pointing it over some good sized gaps.


The stock geometry was more than capable in the La Fenasosa park, but the frame has enough adjustment to get really extreme if you live somewhere like Champery - remember that Damien Spagnolo rode to 2nd place at the World Champs there on a Summum - or just trying to prove that your's is longer than your mates. My large frame had 1255mm wheelbase in the short setting, which jumps up to 1270mm if you elongate the chain stay, and removing a couple of degrees using the included headset cups might be somewhere near 1330mm. Bottom bracket height is no longer adjustable like older versions of the Summum, but if you're desperate to drag heels then get some off-set bushings.
bigquotesDirection changes were sharp and easy despite the slack angles and long footprint.


My usual bugbear of sizing struck again, though, as being 6'1" with silly long arms had cockpit feeling a little cramped for me despite the long (for a downhill bike) 443mm reach. I would have been closer to comfort with a 50mm stem, but this would negate the benefits of the Forward Geometry that Mondraker have worked towards so diligently. This has me thinking that some riders over the 6' mark could be requesting an XL frame option to benefit from the short stem. I didn't ask the question but assumed the generic response from manufacturers is that they sell such a small percentage of XL frames that fabricating another mould simply isn't cost effective. Then again, some brands don't even make frames to fit the multiple tall riders on their rosters.

Mondraker Summum Carbon
  The big line at the La Fenasosa park was too much fun to not hit up a few times. Anyways, who would say no to following Danny into a few 45ft jumps?




Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotesLight is fast, isn't it? It's amazing how agile a bike of the Summum's size can feel after a good diet, especially with most of the remaining weight sitting so low and centralized beneath you. This fact, along with the progressive geometry that adds confidence when things get really rowdy, show that the the bike is built to perform at the highest levels of the sport. Yes, it is a lot of money for a bike, but with Mondraker you're buying the equivalent of an F1 car and the outside of the box thinking that goes along with it - it's different, but that mentality could see you with an advantage in certain moments. - Paul Aston


Mondraker
MS Racing
Additional photos by Óscar Santiago


125 Comments

  • + 146
 Lets see if Danny is going to stay on this bike or not.
  • + 45
 Let us see if I can afford this bike... Nope. never will.
  • + 14
 I'm actually concerned how much I want to spend my savings right now
  • + 23
 its actually not that expensive in comparison to others, Mondraker has always been, dare I say it, reasonable, and I do mean this in comparison to others. 32 lb though! OMG you better hope you can float over rock gardens or you are playing ping pong hahahaa Danny will be a terrorist in 2015- money on it
  • + 5
 This is always my second favorite bike after Session 9.9
  • + 9
 Guys all I'm saying 2015 is gonna be all about Sam Hill & Danny.
  • + 3
 I hope so Sam FTW - that would be ice cool
  • + 2
 Danny will break into the top five
  • + 9
 Most beautiful DH Bike ever.
  • + 1
 ^It's a beast and you know^
  • + 2
 norco and canyon are reasonable. @Waldon83
  • + 83
 Fair play to anyone offering lifetime warranty on anything made from carbon
  • - 21
flag acerocker3 (Nov 27, 2014 at 15:21) (Below Threshold)
 Giant do it on all their bikes including carbon.... Razz
  • + 34
 except DH
  • + 14
 3 year warranty on Giant DH bikes. Lifetime on everything else
  • + 21
 Norco has a lifetime warranty on everything....
  • + 22
 Devinci have a lifetime warranty on all carbon and aluminium bikes
  • + 3
 Life time warranties don't mean much. It the the products life time not yours. Its up to the manufacturer to decided what the life time is. Be 6 months or 60 years, it's there call.
  • + 10
 that's true, lifetime could be anything... but then again i know someone who had a 3 month old carbon yeti frame (whatever the top end 160mm one is - bought direct) and the head tube snapped clean off (at dalby, if you've been you'll know why its a shocker to do it there) and they wouldn't warranty it...
  • + 17
 Why would anybody be suprised that a carbon frame has a lifetime warranty, neg prop me if you want but carbon frames are usually stronger than aluminum ones.
  • + 21
 I have seen a lot of broken carbon dh frames this year. It reminds me of aluminum in the 90's. As with aluminum, steel, or titanium, carbon is only as good as the person building it.
  • + 15
 I contacted my norco rep, and it is most definitely the buyer's entire lifetime.
  • - 5
flag rickaybobbay (Nov 27, 2014 at 20:43) (Below Threshold)
 Most of the time lifetime warranties for bikes are 5-6 years.
  • + 11
 @T-Bot incorrect. When a company says "lifetime" they are referring to the lifetime of the original owner.
  • + 18
 look what warranties don't cover, swing arms, suspension, normal wear and tear, improper assembly, improper follow up maintenance, damage due to accident, misuse, abuse or neglect. So for the next 60 years that you the original owner are alive and can ride wrap you bike in cotton wool and only ride it on grass that is freshly cut and not to wet and not to dry. When the sun is behind clouds, not to cold or hot with low humidity. Then you are covered.
  • + 0
 One last things.
Your "lifetime" warrantee only covers the front triangle of your duel suspention bike.
So what bike only has a front triangle and no other parts?
Enjoy the selling point and upsell to your lifetime warranty.
  • + 1
 Well , what I would say as a m.e is that carbon frames tend be lighter , to adjust better to the rider and terrain as they seem to absorb better the bumps than the aluminium frames depending on the mix of metals and substances used along with the carbon itseld as long as the manufacturing process too. But if you analyze the forces ,lets say at the headtube after a crass or a bottom out you'd see that compression or tension forses would be more intense and could lead to material failure contrary to the aluminium that would logically bend instead of snapping.
  • + 4
 my carbon Wilson has a lifetime warranty for me, and the bike, both ends, been checked, confirmed.

it stops there with Devinci.

BUT - and think about this when buying second hand as it could be very useful for you, when was the last time a bicycle company asked for photo i.d when claiming under warranty?
  • + 6
 Funny - I also know someone with a carbon SB66 who had the headtube shear off. And again no warranty.
  • + 2
 well, here in my country some warranty cards require full name, address, and id card serial .... and last time i warrantied a frame i was asked for my id card as well. you could find out the hard way that you get no warranty for your second hand bike, unless the first owner calls for the warranty.
  • + 1
 yes, every warranty card I have filled (approx. 6) has asked for a lot of personal info, of course it does, they want to market to you, however, in 2 claims i've not been asked for photo i.d.

luckily I have bought new bikes and only once a second hand bike - it was just a thought for those that do buy second hand, get a relationship with the person you buy from, pretty easy really just in case !
  • + 1
 as for Yeti replacements, I have never known Yeti not replace under warranty - strange to hear this as I always assumed they had a such a good replacement program as they know their bikes will break so they just honour it to keep customers and get good feedback....that was always my impression, right or wrong.
  • + 1
 thats too bad, with warranty issues like that you would have to be a moron to spend any money on a yeti, ive heard more about yeti frame issues this year than any other companys combined. hey yeti if your listening, id fix your shit before you lose all your customers.
  • + 1
 You know stories about bikes breaking and no warranty ... must be heard with precaution ... bikes can be subjected to some crazy stuff and they sometimes can break. One's classification of abuse may differ from the manufacturer. Warranties are typically dealt with on a case by case basis and most bike makers will back up a bike that failed when it shouldn't have. A lifetime warranty can only be a good thing ... even if it's six years because honestly that's a long service life for a DH bike.
  • + 1
 understood completely. BUT ive heard there has been a bunch of yeti's with issues straight out of the factory. when you hear something like that, even if it is only conjecture, it doesnt exactly make you want to buy one.
  • + 4
 cannot imagine how peeved I would be if a firm dared try not to fulfill a warranty, seriously wtf.
  • + 2
 No it certainly does not. Especially when you have several cases of breakage in the same spot. I hate to say this because I really like supporting smaller companies but it's those that have to be careful about warranty claims or they would go out of business. Bigger ones with deeper pockets can afford to warranty with fewer questions asked in order to maintain reputation.
  • + 0
 Lifetime warranty is overrated. They update a bike every 3 or 5 years. And you get replacement parts for your model only for that period of time. Maybe 2 years longer. But, hey, maybe they give you their newest frame when you ask for warranty on your 20yearsold snapped bike. Not. It is just a marketing gag imo
  • + 2
 Sometimes that happens, maybe to a lesser degree but my snapped 2010 Remedy was replaced with a 2011 sporting 142 through axle in place of my 135qr Smile
  • + 2
 guy brought in an 08 shore to my shop because of a recall, got an aurum and all parts needed for conversion free of charge. I snapped a hard tail endure frame from 2001 and in 2004 was given a p3. Warranties.... sometimes they actually mean it, have faith!
  • + 1
 enduro frame*
  • + 2
 alexander 80 - a friend of mine cracked his MK1 evil fame and snapped all the linkages, they sent him all the parts required to repair the bike, gave him a place to go to get the welding done on the seat tube, and sent a new frame in carbon when they fixed the design - roughly 3 years later. commencal were replacing old rear ends with new designs on the Meta 55, 1st hand knowledge of this if you approach these things properly of course a firm will honour the warranty - I expect if you make contact via F words and threats you usually receive a lesser service, as with all products in life, not just bicycles
  • + 2
 Wow. Good to know. Really didn´t know that bike companies offer such a great warranty service. I always thought, as I wrote above, that it was just a marketing gag. Happy to hear that this is not the case.
  • + 1
 I expect nowadays that any firm with half a brain would just acknowledge the claim unless it was totally bogus, its simply not worth it in this day and age.
  • + 18
 Anyone wanna buy a kidney?
  • + 27
 Will you trade? Or cash only?
Woke up in an ice bath in Thailand and I think I might be missing one.
  • + 3
 If you woke up in an ice bath in Thailand, well, idk how to say this but I've got some bad news for you...
  • + 25
 I've heard a few times that Thai food is mostly ORGANic.
  • + 6
 Kidney, no. Liver, yes.
  • + 10
 Wonder if they have found a way to keep the bearings & bolts in the frame yet? Big Grin

Additional weight shedding benefits, weigh the bike at the bottom of a run, when your linkage has fallen apart (again) you'll lose a few more grammes Smile
  • + 1
 my linkage bolts never came loose, had my first one a year, my second one a year and a half. shame they wouldnt come out to change the bearings though Smile
  • - 1
 The linkage bolts either seemed to fall out, or not come out at all. A bit of medium strength loctite sorts that out though. I broke 3 allen keys trying to get mine out this summer (2012 foxy). In fairness, I hadn't realised the bottom linkage bolts had heads on both ends of the bolt and I'd been turning the wrong way.
  • + 1
 How come you got rid of it after 1 year ?
  • + 1
 bigburd, i originally bought my first mondraker in a small, it had an uncut seat post on in the shop and with a full height seat it felt the right size, after riding a mates summum i realised i was wrong, i found a medium at a bargain price so i changed to that, i then realised i didnt gel with the summums riding style of skipping over everything so i ended up on a scalp.
  • + 9
 The new Mondrakers are looking hot. I wasn't a fan of the humpback look but the author is incorrect- the new Summum no longer has a humpback, just a very sloping top tube. Looks amazing.
  • + 1
 Exactly my thinking. Much better now!
  • + 10
 Wow that's light....so thankful to be riding mtb thru this astonishing era of progression!
  • + 1
 For real. Bikes are so amazing these days, and it's getting easier and easier to get a proper DH frame under you!
  • + 9
 Who the hell want's a DH bike with Zero Suspension... Wink
  • + 5
 @lou-dog & @juniorvf154
Summum is French now but from latin !!

Means : Le plus haut degré dans un domaine ... Highest degree in a field
  • + 1
 thx ed91 Smile
  • + 1
 So sick, time to upgrade the near new Pro team 2014 model also dam light and lsick but this is just gorgeous! Danny Hart and Emmeline are going to kill WC next year, its gojng to be a super competitive year I predict, some new strong team signing and current teams, cant wait for rd1
  • + 4
 Danny Hart + Marzocchi + Renthal + carbon = I don't know but I'm pretty excited to find out!
  • + 1
 for the record, I work at a shop that sells Norco. They aren't lifetime warranty, but with all warranty it's really up to the discretion of the company. Often time even if it's out of warranty they'll help out if they can. That kid who snapped his truax on video of the last month got a new one, and a guy who had an 08 shore came in the other day because there was a recall and we were given an Aurum and everything needed to make the parts he had work. But no, nowhere in writing does it say life time warranty, however, good bunch of guys doing what they can...... except tell me that the range carbons were being recalled early enough to plan around it
  • + 2
 oh woooooow such a beautiful bike!
SUM MUM - is Latin and is the neuter form of "summus" which means "highest"
In the context of the Summum philosophy, "SUMMUM" is a name given to the totality of existence
  • + 0
 3 comments: Mud clearance on that back tyre. Price (!!!) - been cycling long enough to remember when £3500 got you a pro team replica DH bike - although to be fair, the lower price brackets now give you far more bike for the money than they did back then! Razz And as for "Mondraker were one of the first brands to really push the concept of longer top tubes and shorter stems which is an idea that's slowly being adopted by other brands" - anybody remember Gary Fisher's Genesis Geometry back in the '90s - longer top tubes and shorter stems.... Wink
  • + 2
 My old (2011?) Summum PT has served well, undoubtedly still the best DH i have ever ridden, not seeing any reason to change cos there was nothing better..... until now ;-)
  • + 1
 My only issue is the DT Swiss rims and hubs ??? On a bike costing that much ? 27.5 Deemax's surely (when available) or a set of Enve's carbon... will be interesting to see what the factory bikes end up with... Everything else on this new bike is massive, the bars maybe changed for carbon riser and a carbon seatpost, but its being a weight weenie (Ti springs and bolts throughout etc)... You would be tying the thing down to stop it floating away..... Has the price for the frame set been released yet ?
  • + 4
 God dang love Mondraker bikes....
  • + 3
 The big question is if Danny's giant balls fit to the new geometry of Mondraker?
  • + 3
 out of all the beautiful bikes i'll never own, i think i may like this one the most
  • + 2
 How does a short TT cause too little weight on the front wheel when descending. Climbing yes, but descending?
  • + 1
 Moves your center of gravity further back, whatever the angle of the trail (unless it is actually vertical)
  • + 3
 Looks so sick... Now to figure out how to fund my addiction...
  • + 1
 That bike is worlds ahead of the aluminum version in terms of looks... going from (arguably) the ugliest head tube area to (arguably) the prettiest.
  • + 2
 The Blue one...maybe...just maybe...the most beautiful DH Bike i´ve seen in my life. Even more than the V10
  • + 2
 And I thought I couldn't want a Summum any more than I already did!! I was wrong!! This looks amazing!
  • + 1
 I feel you brother... same here
  • + 4
 Dear Santa....
  • + 1
 Emmeline back on Mondraker like in 2011, what ???? Haha seems Like she just wanted to make two year on a Lapierre bike just to try Big Grin
  • + 3
 Great numbers. Probably the best of any DH bike.
  • + 2
 I'm all for XC and never did DH but the weight weenie in me wants to build a bike on this frame really badly!!!!
  • + 2
 just interested if anyone could clarify if mondraker is astro bikes frame or not?
  • + 2
 (Playing the dumb and dumber music when he sees Mary for the first time)
  • + 1
 Very nice bike but there's no such thing as biodegradable silicone but then silicone doesn't affect the environment anyway
  • + 0
 I've always liked the look of Mondraker bikes. The longer TT is a huge benifit on a mountian bike. My Orbea has a similar front end design.
  • + 1
 anyone notice that on one of the pics it says on the bike marzocchi but got fox 40s and dhx on it????
  • + 2
 That bike is drop dead sexy! I like it a lot tup
  • + 1
 The new bike looks great but I can't help but think that the $2k price difference is just for the XO1 drive.
  • + 1
 Got a nukeproof pules 2015 over one of theses what that the wrong choice ?
  • + 1
 The choice you made was the right choice. Because you made it for a reason. Unless you're into self-sabotage.
  • + 1
 Who do you like more? Danny or Sam? Big Grin
  • + 1
 man thats a hard one Big Grin
  • + 1
 8099 euro?!
Enough said.

Look sick though.
  • + 1
 so nice. it wrecks the old one
  • + 1
 No XL , damn !!

Well it was my dream bike for a few minutes Frown
  • + 1
 Finally, it's about time they released these !
  • + 1
 thought PB's reviewers couldnt fly.............but Paul can
  • + 1
 Tyre clearance on the rear looks bad.
  • + 1
 this bike is a trail destroyer #beast
  • + 2
 love the zokes
  • + 1
 yeah new technology, and F1 started using carbon few decades ago.
  • + 1
 Mmmmmmmm...... Nice bike I must say
  • + 2
 Oh boy, come to daddy.
  • + 2
 It looks cool!
  • + 1
 Generally hate Mondraker styling, but this one is looks pretty sweet!
  • + 1
 There has been a sudden influx of kidneys on the black market...
  • + 1
 Mo - Ron
  • + 1
 I see the dislike trolls
  • + 0
 Oh Lordy lord! Want one...now!
  • + 0
 they kept pekoll instead of spagnolo? :S
  • - 1
 Rear linkage looks like a gambler...

*note not a session.
  • + 1
 Seems legit
  • + 1
 Fail. Next!
  • + 1
 What about a virtual pivot looks anything like a gambler? The only thing the looks the same between the two is it's a bike and there's a shock.
  • - 2
 The big question is how to pronounce the name...
  • - 4
flag holyone (Nov 27, 2014 at 15:44) (Below Threshold)
 Su of Susan
Mum of Mummy
Su-Mum (my stab at it)
  • + 1
 "Soo-moom". It means "the ultimate" in French.
  • + 3
 as i know summum is latin and means best in his category or something like that
  • + 4
 I've literally always thought it was called the "Summon" until now.
  • + 0
 Mo-Ron

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