Moots' Surprising New Womble Titanium Hardtail - Pond Beaver 2020

Apr 14, 2020
by Dan Roberts  
Moots Womble


Moots are a name synonymous with titanium hardtails and also for creating some of the cleanest hardtail frames out there for road, gravel, MTB and generally just sitting back and admiring. But they are riders too, and probably advocate that you spend equal amounts of time riding as well as looking at their frames. And to up the amount of riding they offer to the more aggressive MTB crowd they have come out with the Womble. It may not be a full "hardcore" hardtail, but we're still excited to see a brand like Moots producing a ~66° (unsagged) headtube-angle bike designed around a 140mm fork.

Moots Womble
Clean details all over the frame.
Moots Womble
Clearance for 2.6" tyres.

Not a small animal that lives under Wimbledon Common, but actually named after the IMBA Epic trail in Arkansas, the Womble is aimed at people who love a good single track and a bit of adventure. Moots nicely say it's for old souls, those not chasing after the latest trend or most up to date spec and colourway. This is likely a bike you'll have in your quiver for many years to come. More of an investment.

The Womble uses 29" wheels with clearance for 2.6" tires, is based around a 140mm fork and comes in two build options.

Moots Womble Geo

Geometry is quoted for the bike at 25% fork sag, so more of a dynamic geometry guide than the usual static one. But there's 4 sizes ranging from 419mm to 505mm reach with just over a 67-degree head angle. Seat tube length and angle are altered per size with the larger sizes getting a slacker seat angle. BB drop is 57mm which should give a BB height of around 321mm and there's a 434mm chain stay on all the sizes.

Frames are designed around a 35mm - 50mm stem length and a minimum 150mm dropper post. There's availability to run down to a 120mm fork too, but it would change the geometry, resulting in a steeper head and seat angle while giving a longer reach. Max chainring size is 32T.

All frames have clean external cable routing, a threaded BB and attention to detail like no other. US-made titanium frames have never been inexpensive, and that holds true with the Womble - the frame only is priced at $3,625 USD.

The Womble uses new double butted top and down tubes to help out with the stiffness and strength of the longer bike design while minimizing the weight penalty. Moots also upped the tube diameter and the resulting aesthetic is more aggro.

Moots Womble
Womble SRAM build. MSRP: $9,309 USD.
Moots Womble
Womble Shimano build. MSRP: $7,640 USD.

Both builds of the Womble are 1x only with a full SRAM AXS setup, ENVE wheels and SRAM brakes. The other build uses a Shimano XT 12-speed and brakes and a normal, hydraulic Reverb. Both builds come with a Rock Shox Pike and Vittoria tyres.

The SRAM build bikes comes with a special bead blasted anodizing for a bit of flare without hurting your eyeballs. Moot's standard etched finish is also available, as too is there Signature series of anodized logos and patters for an upgrade option.

For more information head over to the Moots Womble website.

Moots Womble





Pinkbike Pond Beaver 2020






184 Comments

  • 131 1
 $10,000 metal hardtails! YESSSSS lol. Where are all the comments?
  • 140 0
 I mean, it does hold two water bottles. Seems worth it.
  • 83 0
 you could make it hold three with a drill
  • 14 0
 \m/ METAL \m/
  • 23 0
 @slumgullion: I'd rather pay $15,000 for a bike that can hold three
  • 6 2
 It is an expensive build. $3600 for frame only, and you can hang whatever you like off it.
  • 4 0
 @kookseverywhere: Add 5k for each water bottle
  • 7 9
 This thing better be stupidly light.
  • 15 1
 @ChazzMichaelMichaels: is $3600 USD supposed to be a bargain for a hardtail frame? Razz
  • 1 3
 @KxPop: Dunno. Not my thing (and I'd probably prefer a whole bike for that money). The one featured must have $6.5K build kit on ????
  • 70 3
 Moots is exempt from any bitching about price. I mean, look at it.
  • 4 0
 @loam4311: favorite comment ever
  • 2 4
 @A-HIGHLY-EDUCATED-PROFESSIONAL: It's not, but will last longer than CF one, in theory 5g will give you anvil welding rig 1g for decent welder... for 3.6 g should have rear suspension.
  • 27 0
 @DrPete:
Right. It's like a Ferrari...if you balk at the pricetag, you're not the intended market.
  • 32 44
flag WAKIdesigns (Apr 14, 2020 at 21:59) (Below Threshold)
 @thomasjkenney1024: except Ferrari gives you respect of men, bodies of women, 10k hardtail gives you sympathy of pretentious nerds which is worth nothing. Extremely awkward method of self realization. You are more likely to attract women and men by spending same money on a Cervelo or Trek Madone 9.9 segafredo edition. Moots have zero sexy value.
  • 8 0
 @kookseverywhere: you can pay me $15,000 and I’ll follow you around all the trails and hold your 3 water bottles for you. Don’t wanna weigh down your bike too much now eh?
  • 6 0
 @DrPete: Dr eh? Of course you like Moots.


Really though, you are corrects, their bikes are one of the few where price is irrelevant, and if I had the cash, I’d have at least 2 or 3 of their frames
  • 12 0
 I'd usually be the one person commenting what a joke this thing is, but its titanium and thus its cool. Also thats generally just a very clean, good looking frame.
  • 19 3
 I'm surprised people are surprised about Moots price tag.
  • 7 11
flag WAKIdesigns (Apr 15, 2020 at 0:34) (Below Threshold)
 @jorgeposada: I wish it was made of unnecessarily difficult to make Titanium alloy, with unnecessarily difficult to make tubing section, connected in unnecessarily complicated way so that price of frame alone would reach 25k. then we would use unnecessarily complicated way to make rims out of carbon, onlt to create most ridiculous hub/spoke interface, so that total price of the bike would reach 50k and the owner could say all these are cuttting edge methods going beyond what aerospace industry uses. A middle aged man hearing this would nod and then proceeed drinking his soy latte, being extremely aware to not stain his beard.

I love titanium frames, but if I got one I would gladly accept people laughing at me for being a snob. Just like I accept people wondering why on Earth would I have a boutique carbon frame. That is the problem. Not owoning such bike, it is being oblivious to the fact how ridiculous such things are.
  • 3 0
 @WAKIdesigns: you have been hanging around the Radavist too much lately Waki
  • 6 6
 @Arierep: nah. There is a vibrant pretentious beatnik scene in my town. they treat themselves very seriously.

But hey, I just bought myself a second hand Surly fork, It was cheap so I thought I have to have it, since so many boast about it being so great (unless off course someone rolls their eyballs saying, that Salsa is the shit) Except it isn't. the drop out for the 5mm QR is at least 6mm and at the same time the socket for QR skewer is too small for Shimano skewer, at least 1mm too small in diameter so I don't know what sort of hipster bollocks kind of QR fits in there. So aligning the wheel right is a job. I will be honest... I expected no less, I am sure there is an elaborated reason why it was made like that because expensive, pointless, unnecessary inconvenience is the prime value sought after by pretentious snobbery.
  • 11 2
 @WAKIdesigns: dude, what are you even talking about?
  • 11 9
 @thegoodflow: criticism of snobbery, consumerism, technological bigotry, destruction of self, mutually assured masturbation. Makes sense? I thought so!
  • 4 1
 @WAKIdesigns: you're actually ranting about the "pretentious snobbery" of a surly fork, because you can't figure out how to mount a standard qr hub in it?

If it's a qr front hub, the skewer is 5mm, and the dropout is 9mm, btw. So, you're frustrated that the dropout is "at least 6mm"?
  • 3 2
 @WAKIdesigns: you're out to lunch
  • 3 1
 @WAKIdesigns: many prefer their bikes to be welded by overweight Americans with diabetes sir!
  • 7 4
 @thegoodflow: oh Jesus, ok it is 9mm axle and the drop out for it is 1mm too big. Then I can’t get the Shimano skewer to for into the socket. Pardon me for being incontinent with some medieval standards. I am selling this piece of shit and installing back a cheap Focus aluminium fork without 50 holes for mounting God only knows what To it. Because guess what, if you Made a fork where axle cannot be fastened securely then it is worthless! And Shimano skewer is actually a good standard skewer so No matter if it’s for crossing Yukon, or Alberta or going for organic IPA, Soy Latte or commuting to work: every fork with QR should fit Shimano QR which by the way is the same size as most QRs out there! Bollocks! Bikepacking bollocks! I bet most surly owners have aeropress with multi use steel filter! I hate all of you!

Wait... where were we? moots, ah yes. I actually like how they look, very clean lines.
  • 1 1
 @WAKIdesigns: cool story bro, but sounds like user error of some sort. Pretty sure that surly has the rigid forks figured out by now.
  • 8 0
 @DrPete: Agreed. It's like complaining about the price of a Bentley, missing the point. I'll never own one, but I am glad they exist and that Moots can be successful building beautiful bikes.
  • 1 0
 Ever tried to drill titanium? Good luck @loam4311:
  • 1 0
 @JLastra: You're quite a deal, in 1860's terms, but given the 2020 economy there will be much cheaper options abound.
  • 1 3
 @WAKIdesigns:
@WAKIdesigns:
is it possible, maybe just possible, that a previous owner used this fork with 3/8ths inch (9.525 mm for those ignorant slobs who don't know their English units) bolt on wheel??? Maybe?

I once bought some very nice forged wheels automobile for real cheap and found out that the hub diameter was 5 mm too small. That is easy to deal with. Had them bored out to fit my car. Easy solution for you may be to get a bolt on axle for the wheel you want to use.

And, Ti bikes can be delightful. Fortunately here where I live the hipster scene and the bicycle scene don't have much intersection, so I don't have to deal with that crap. No, Ti is not "environmentally friendly", or "artisan" or anything else. Ti road bikes and hard tails just ride nice.

And please forgive the Brooks saddle on the MTBs. They are ridden in -30C temperatures and I got tired of breaking plastic saddles. Note that Fizik has a minimum operating temperature of -10C. Note also that my saddles are made from dead cows, so no Vegan or Soy points.

I bought my first Ti bike because the stuff that is put on roads here to melt ice is a weird mix of NaCl, CaCl2, beet sugar processing residue, and who knows what else. It ate the powder coat on my Ritchey steel bike that I was using for a winter commuter. Didn't want to ruin that gem. Got a Ti hard tail MTB from brand "L" on special for $600.

Then bought another hard tail brand L for cheap and set it up different. Then I bought a road frame from them made of the 6Al 4V alloy which means that the "tubes" are actually sheet material bent to form box section tubes. That frame was also bought new from the Brand L bargain Bin for around $500.

Most of the components on the MTBs came from my "shelf o' junk", like the Hope hubs and E4 brakes which had been on the adventure tandem but were not up to the task.

So I have 3 very nice Ti bikes that cost not much. Even the Olins fork on the first one was $400 new off of E-Bay. Also, Ti is a great material for a MTB free hub body, like the one on the tandem
  • 74 0
 I don't understand why companies like Moots have, "models".

If I'm ever fortunate enough to ring these guys in Colorado to build me a dream bike, I'm not gonna want a stock model. I'm gonna want to sit down and talk to someone about every bike I've owned and what I liked and what I didn't and have them take 30 measurements of me and make me something that answers every question I could ask of a bike.

But maybe that's just me.
  • 46 44
 10k bike with sram brakes? Cmon ? Really?
  • 10 0
 Moots offer custom geo. Models help people get what they want faster and also allows some features that aren’t cost effective on one off scales (for most people).
  • 4 0
 @nickmalysh: If you look at the AXS build on their website, it says XT 8120 for brakes.
  • 7 0
 @nickmalysh: yeah, interesting choice. Trickstuff instead then?
  • 2 0
 To add to what @heinous said, you can have a completely custom frame (every aspect of geometry, logos, anodizing, etching, etc). I have seen about a dozen of these built up at a bike shop I worked at and no two were alike. They also did frame-up builds if that makes a difference...so I suspect that many people don't pay attention to these "models" as you have mentioned...totally would get one custom built if I had the money!
  • 19 8
 @nickmalysh: not gonna lie I’ll never buy another Shimano brake again. My codes are so good and the xt m8120 brakes I used to have were a total headache. They were inconsistent and seemingly got contaminated if I looked at them wrong. Never had issues with newer SRAM brakes.
  • 2 11
flag WAKIdesigns (Apr 15, 2020 at 1:59) (Below Threshold)
 LA-Law - yes, be their guest and pay for feeling like someone took care of you, because there is literally zero practical value in taylor made bikes these days. As if there ever was. But well... this market exists. Making unncesessarily expensive bikes is better than making plastic sht toys that nobody uses more than once, so yeah, why not.
  • 7 1
 @clindblomenduro: Was a Shimano brake fan for many years. But the wandering bite point, which is exacerbated by the cold in which I ride, was too much. Trying downhilling with light snow falling/melting on the off camber roots and rocks, then try to feather your front brake and it grabs far earlier than anticipated. Weeding out my Shimano brakes over the past years and the SRAMs that replaced them have been great and problem free.
  • 7 0
 @MikerJ: used nothing but Shimano brakes for years but the current generations biting point issue and the levers fragility made me switch to Codes.

Never thought I would say this, but I'm actually quite happy with a Sram product. The behaviour is stable and predictable and the levers withstood several crashes. XT M8000 lever were giving the ghost at each contact with the ground
  • 2 0
 Cos some dentists don’t have time to be bothered with things like geometry and spec.
  • 5 0
 @WAKIdesigns: When you say, "literally zero practical value in taylor made bikes these days", have you had one made for you ever?

I've got a custom steel road bike where I worked with the framebuilder to build exactly what I wanted and it is by FAR the best bike I have ever owned or ridden.

So... (shrug)
  • 2 5
 @LA-Law: www.pinkbike.com/u/WAKIdesigns/album/Hard-TRAIL

Shrug. I don't ride road bikes so I don't have this much time to think about deepest first world problems. Like I wish my Ultegra Di2 was shifting just as well as Dura Ace Di2, here CRC, take my money. Give me virtually any MTB frame and some modest budget to buy parts of my choice and I'll make it work very well for my likes. I have zero doubts that I would enjoy riding a Nukeproof Mega 29 just as much as Yeti SB150 if I can only pick a resonable shock, fork, brakes and wheels of my choice. Zero doubts. Just because someone can buy EXT Storia and a PUSH upgrade pack for their Fox 36, doesn't mean they will translate this "upgrade" into anything else, than feeling cool about owning something cool. Like Ceramic speed cage and pulleys.
  • 2 0
 @WAKIdesigns: I typed up a reply to this before noticing it was you posting. I deleted it.
  • 40 8
 If you think this bike is too expensive then you are not the target market.
  • 13 15
 This is not really a luxury product, however. Kind of like Paul and various American steel frame fabricators that jack up their prices because of some kind of sentimental value
  • 14 2
 Well their target is really small. Really small.
  • 9 3
 @Mntneer: or because they can only make so many in a year. Supply/demand curves and what not.
  • 3 1
 @DrPete: so where's the value proposition?
  • 14 2
 @Mntneer: same place it is for $5000 bottles of wine. Most people probably can’t tell the difference but for those who value knowing where it comes from, that it’s hand built, and that you may never run into another one on the trail has value to people who have $10k to spend on a hardtail. That is an incredibly small number of people and I’m not one of them but not all value is subjective.
  • 3 2
 Sorry-not all value is OBjective.
  • 3 1
 @DrPete: I can understand spending unreasonable amounts of money on rare goods. I see no value in the rarity of a Moots.
  • 1 0
 @Mntneer: neither do I. And that works out well for them because if we all saw the value they wouldn’t have the production capacity to keep it small.
  • 1 0
 @Mntneer: @DrPete

For what it's worth: youtu.be/Jvqo9Ino1lE
  • 1 0
 @Mntneer: this is exactly a luxury product...
  • 3 0
 @Rasterman: that’s my point. The expensive stuff usually comes with a story, often meeting the winemaker, etc etc. Will the rest of the world be unable to ride a killer bike because they can’t buy a Moots hardtail? Of course not. But there are people who have the money who want to support the little guy and enjoy the exclusivity.
  • 1 0
 Everything with value is subjective, even gold. If you don't see the value, then, don't buy it (I'm not)!
  • 3 0
 @Mntneer: Someone has to pay the salaries for the employees here in the US along with their health benefits. Your not paying someone in China working in a sweat shop here. Its just math.
  • 27 3
 I'm applying to Dental school...
  • 34 2
 Or could've just paid attention while you were there the first time.
  • 6 0
 @TheOriginalTwoTone: hindsight is always 20/20.
  • 27 0
 @PtDiddy: That's proctology school
  • 1 0
 perfect! you'll be able to buy this bike in 15 years!
  • 21 1
 I met old man moots a long time ago I will never forget. I was 10 and his shop(the old shop) beautiful showroom not big though. He was in the back the employee let us go back there he was in a shed with a dirt floor welding his white hair glowing in the sunlight. He stopped welding and I told him his bikes are beautiful. he said "anything you put time and care into is beautiful" never have I heard words truer. Meeting him and seeing how he produced bikes that makes them worth every penny.

But they are out of my price bracket. But I will have one eventually its on my bucket list Wink
  • 23 0
 Perfect bike for a toodle down the neighborhood bike path.
  • 22 0
 "I'm just going for a womble down to the Starbucks and back in my jorts. Do you want anything? A mocha-choka-licka-puta-latte?"
  • 4 0
 Wall art more like it!
  • 11 0
 My first real mtb was a Moots. I had a good friend with a lot of disposable cash who basically gave it to me. As I got more and more into the gravity side of things I sold it because it was "too flexy".
Barely a day goes by where I don't regret selling it. I've since had a bunch of carbon "super bikes" but the quality and feel of that bike was incredible and tough to match.

This is an extremely expensive luxury item that falls in line with expensive watches cars etc.
Where I live I can easily go into "town" and see half a dozen dudes rolling in 1/2 million dollar cars with watches that cost north of 100k on their wrists while wearing suits that cost 20k.
Wealth, value and quality are all relative to your bank balance but there are plenty of people who can and will buy that bike on impulse let alone lust.

I'd buy this in a heartbeat if I had the cash.
  • 10 2
 "US-made titanium frames have never been inexpensive"

I mean, I guess? My made-in-the-US Lynskey Titanium hardtail cost me $2,328. Fully built with a middle-of-the-road spec. That was a demo unit, like new. Brand new would have been around $3K, but that makes a $3,625 frame hard to swallow.
  • 3 7
flag curendero (Apr 14, 2020 at 19:44) (Below Threshold)
 Covid cash grab...
  • 5 0
 Moots and Lynskey are very different operations
  • 1 0
 @ryanthelyon: yup, i love my pro 27.5 Lynskey but i got it because a Moots was out too far out my price range.
  • 8 0
 Gonna be honest and say I didn't know moots still existed. Always remember seeing them on mtn biking action
  • 1 0
 They're in the gravel and bike packing segments.
  • 8 2
 I've always been amazed that companies like Moots have managed to stay around as long as they have. I'm all for the little guy, but I really feel like maybe there's a trust fund involved here...
  • 4 0
 I live in Denver and up in Steamboat quit often. They still sell a good many bikes believe it or not. More road/gravel but they are steady
  • 5 0
 They’re much bigger in the road and gravel world.
  • 3 0
 Original owner was just bought out a few years ago. New owner is way into gravel biking and bike packing. Didn't change much with the company when he bought it. I toured the factory recently and I bet they have $1M+ of Ti tubing inventory and still only 2 people finish welding all their frames.
  • 1 0
 @jrfields: best welder they had just left in..... Nov. don’t know who replaced him so could be down to just one welder now
  • 8 2
 Moots: for when you finally give up any pretense of being able to ride your Santa Cruz/Pivot/Yeti to its full potential and embrace puttering around the trails nearby to your third vacation home.
  • 6 2
 "Moots nicely say it's for old souls, those not chasing after the latest trend or most up to date spec and colourway." - comes with a bunch of batteries, and arguably the most user-unfriendly carbon rims you can buy.

But it's a hardtail, so it's so, so core.
  • 4 3
 That's like buying a house and complaining about the color of the walls.
  • 5 0
 @dh-walters They know their market- old shop rats that went and got real jobs. Those guys aren't afraid of fiddly aspirational doodads, but terrified of a bike that doesn't adapt to their norba-XC bike handling acumen. Look at that geo. Old man's modern.

No hate. I admire moots' clarity of purpose.
  • 1 0
 Indeed, having to charge up batteries on a Moots doesn't seem right to me either.
  • 1 0
 @kittenjuice: thats not fair ... i bought a Lynskey because i sold Litespeeds and Merlins and could afford those in the 80s or 90s. Also slack headtubes dont win norba races!
  • 8 0
 Utterly gorgeous. Ti is beautiful
  • 8 0
 I’d hit that
  • 4 1
 Now, If I was a dentist I would be smacking my polished chops all over these bikes. I would hang one in my waiting room just to make all the poor people feel like they are in the presence of greatness.
  • 2 0
 The people complaining about price on this bike are the same people who say "Why would I buy a Ferrari for $150K when I could buy a Honda Civic for $4k, spend $20K on it and be just as fast?" You know why? Because you're still in a f*cking teenager's piece of shit, regardless of how much money you throw at it. It's the same reason nobody buys a Huffy then puts a Lyrik with XX1 AXS on it. Because it's still a f*cking piece of shit.

Until you've ridden or owned a Moots...or any really NICE titanium frame for that matter (Lynskey's don't count lol)..ignorance is bliss.
  • 4 0
 Badass bike. Ridiculously overpriced, but for those willing to pay it, they got a cool ride.
  • 3 0
 Esker hayduke is nearly the same geo and also a beautiful rig. But it’s $750 for a frame, headset, custom drop outs and delivery! Maybe a pound heavier too.
  • 1 0
 I think the geo is perfect for a hardtail. Fast and nimble. I’d love one but that’s twice my budget for a car typically
  • 2 1
 This bike appeal s to people that understand the Pinnacle of hand crafted frames. Moots frames do not end up in the scrap yard they are rode for decades probably with backwards compatible Cris King components that match the longevity of the frame.
  • 1 0
 @thegoodflow: you live in Morgantown, WEST VIRGINIA and you are calling me a "dum-dum." You live in the inbreeding capital of the world and you are trying to talk shit. Lol. I have driven through that shithole many times. I had more teeth than the entire population... didn't Morgantown have a Netflix special on the highest meth OD stats in the country? So, to get this straight, you are trolling me because you hate your life. Got it. Probably just filling your time until your next car comes to bum $3 for another meth rock.
  • 1 0
 While I loooove titanium, I think it's a material better suited to road bikes, where geometry and tech advances move at a slower pace, allowing you to get that "lifetime investment" that the material (and corresponding price) affords.
  • 1 0
 A few years ago a Moots frames cost half the money. I see no changes in materials & manufacturing from the past. Obviously inflession & slackening the angles is expensive thing to do!!
  • 2 0
 I love TI bikes, but why would anyone spend about 10,000 USD in a TI bike that looks so generic?

Give me a RAW TI bike!! Remove the paint.
  • 1 1
 All I can say is my neighbor got a MOOTS with no paint, clear coat only, and did a fully Chrome XTR build. Weighed in at 13.7 lbs. I'm no weight weeny, and not exactly the XC type, but dang. Oh, did I mention he got the seat post at 'discount' ($300) cause he was an insider.
  • 2 0
 for 10k you don't get front/rear centers that are adjusted for frame sizing? Wut?
  • 2 0
 Now a elevated chainstay to make a softail high pivot(flex) bike. The high flex y b beat
  • 2 0
 Moist ybb they make a softtail
  • 2 0
 Moots*
  • 1 0
 @Cspringsrider: yes i was suggesting they make it with an elevated chainstay so it flex rearward so the travel would mimic a high single pivot bike
  • 1 0
 @won-sean-animal-chin: thats a good idea but that frame has been the same for so long I doubt they change it
  • 1 0
 Finally a feature on a boutique level bike for us curmudgeons. Probably one of the sickest bikes I've seen on here in quite some time. thanks for that.
  • 3 1
 All I can think about is Marinos custom fit to your liking and size hardtail frames that start at $250...
  • 3 0
 Does Marino do titanium? If they do, for $3600 you could fly to Peru and watch your bike be welded and bring it home on the plane and have a sweet story to tell.
  • 2 0
 Super sexy already have a Chromag ti that I love dearly. Mmmm titanium so sweet.
  • 1 1
 Looking at that pic I wouldn’t call that proper clearance for 2.6” tyres. Wheel dish changes on you slightly, or your tire has a minor imperfection, etc, and the tire will rub the stay.
  • 1 0
 I think most people spending 10k on a hardtail would have no qualms about replacing the wheel or tire in that scenario.
  • 1 1
 To everyone waxing philosophical on value as a blah blah blah...watches...blah blah blah...wine and cars...blah blah blah...intended market: we get it, you're cultivated and refined. But you're not breaking any news here.
  • 2 0
 I can hear my 300$ Dartmoor Hornet frame growling in the darkness of my garage...
  • 1 0
 Everything on that build in the pics is top quality .. even down to a CK headset! Still an expensive build though, but certainly a dreamy build.
  • 1 0
 I like it. I wouldn't buy it even if I had that kind of spare money, but that doesn't mean that I don't enjoy looking at it. Beautiful bike!
  • 1 0
 You can guarantee the first person in the UK to get one of these will probably put the word c0ck Infront of womble for their own amusement ?
  • 1 0
 Helm & eeWings on the AXS build would have been the absolute top spec. I guess that jump from $10k to $11.5k was just a bridge too far Eek
  • 2 1
 Timeless and worth every penny. Why spend any money on cookie cutter bikes make in China anymore. No thanks. Moots about to get my money.
  • 4 5
 10.000$ for that... OK
For such a price, I can mount 2 titatium premium hardtails with a modern geometry, and 4 steel premium hardtails with... a modern geometry.
Moots, come back! We`re still loving you!
  • 5 2
 67hta with 449 reach and 75.7 sta is a pretty sweet spot for HT geo that’s meant to cover a lot of ground. This bike looks so dope, but 10k..... I’m with you, I can put together two of whatever I need for that with whatever I want on it, I don’t see them point of this in the current market
  • 2 1
 @thisspock: You`re right. I`m a bit too extreme concerning geometry `cos I`m on the aggro-hardtail dark side you know ;-) No doubt that this bike can handle lots of situations! Cheers Mate
  • 3 4
 It would be more efficient if it had a steel rigid fork...and more affordable as well if the frame were made of aluminium and had v-brakes with those geometry numbers from 1998...
  • 4 2
 $10,000 and 67 HA? i am about to get censored by PB!
  • 3 0
 It's Moops!
  • 1 0
 I love a good Ti hardtail, but I'm not sure that I love the new Moots downtube logo.
  • 1 0
 Ti-curious after just cracking my carbon frame. Can't put my fork with tapered steerer tube on this. Oh well...
  • 1 0
 They should call it the Cockwomble, ‘cause that’s who you’ll see riding these.
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 Very clean. Not sure about the oil slick chain.
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 Just think you would never have to lube it!
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 Pretty sweet but dang that is a lot of $$$$. I would love to ride one!
  • 1 0
 I think i'll just by two bikes instead - the frame pretty sick though
  • 4 3
 Honestly, quoting geometry for a hardtail at sag feels misleading.
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 Theres no point at one company in 20 doing geo charts based on sagged geo. Too annoying to compare
  • 1 0
 that there is a purdy bicycle
  • 2 0
 It is...BUT the color of the brushed/blasted ti doesn't go well with the fork paint...trivial complaint
  • 2 0
 @twozerosix: I've been really digging that pike ultimate on various builds recently, but you're totally right. The obvious choice is a purple helm
  • 1 0
 This bike makes me want to go to dental school.
  • 2 1
 Moots Womble-for the dentist that isn't even pretending they're a ripper.
  • 1 0
 If I only had a spare $10G.
  • 2 1
 My Chromag would whoop it’s ass.
  • 1 0
 Talk about fuck you money well invest.
  • 2 0
 way too cheap
  • 2 0
 Looks like a Chameleon.
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 10k yea i'm running to my credit union for the loan in the morning!
  • 1 0
 Beautiful...... I’d better start doing the lottery
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 It's a genuinely nice bike. But when I see companies like On One/Planet X making titanium hardtail frames for around £600-£1000, I wonder what the difference is to justify such a vast price jump!
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 Stuck in the 90s, still trying to over sell titanium. Are you guys hiring Dentists to weld these days so you can justify your $10k for a hardtail bike?
  • 1 0
 Its got a dinosaur rocking a manual in the front. Worth every penny.
  • 1 1
 That's Ridonkulous. I got a 2nd hand Ti Van Nicholas for 600 quid on the BookFace marketplace.
  • 1 0
 What is surprising about it? The price?
  • 1 0
 At Moots headquarter somebody is laughing hard.
  • 1 0
 We've been mooted......
  • 1 0
 whats it weigh?
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 it's a sweet titanium build, that's moot.
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 These are the real dentist bikes IMO.
  • 1 0
 I like those graphics.
  • 1 0
 love this.
  • 1 1
 This bike wishes it was my Soma Juice :-P
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 Headline says 66* head angle, cool! Fine print, 67* headangle with a 120mm fork AND that's at 25%sag....
  • 11 1
 It's 67° with a 140mm fork sagged 25%, so unsagged at 35mm more axle-to-crown where most brands measure their HTAs, the bike lands around 66° or maybe a touch slacker.
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 @brianpark: LOL! My bad, thought the geo chart said it was based off a 120mm. Went and looked agin... NOPE!

Thanks for keeping me honest! Smile
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 Raw Ti or nothing
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 LITESPEED KITSUMA!
  • 2 2
 Uhh?
  • 1 4
 I'm trying to think why this is 10k. Sure maybe a cool boutique brand could price it like that, but moots doesn't scream cool to me idk
  • 2 5
 10k for external cables. No thanks, I'll stick to my Why Ti cycles for half there frame price. And hydro formed tubes.
  • 6 1
 At this point, I'd pay extra for external cables.
  • 3 0
 External cable is the way to go. If the passage for the housing is well studied, it's ok. And it's easier for maintenance.
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 @Awtail: for 10,000$ I can built an swork epic that with be lighter, handle better, and have wireless axs shifting. My point is 3k for a ti frame as material costs arent that high anymore, not even taking into account the current CCP Virus crisis, you should be getting more features. Hydroformed tubes, ceramic bearings, something.... internally rooted cables are for people with OCD like me. Outside cables are for plebs
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 @Squarepedaler12: you're unpleasant
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 @thegoodflow: why, because I'm honest? Internally routed cables in Ti frames is very possible and represents engineering. External cables at this price point is reckless.
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 @Squarepedaler12: internal routing "represents engineering" and external routing is "reckless"? Are you dumb?
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 @thegoodflow: your lack of a viable argument has lowered you to ad hominem. So, I'll follow. Come up with a better argument cupcake. I'm not sure where a lady like yourself rides, but us real riders go everywhere from the deserts of the Mojave to the forests of Monterey. External cables get caught more, torn more, muddy more, deteriorate in the uv sun more. You even take apart a 5 year old internally routed bike? The inside part is shiny. The exposed part is dull. That is UV damage. 10k for a bike that does not attempt internal routing is reckless. Like a Ferrari with carburetors... yes carbs are cool and retro, but they offer no benefit on a $350k car. I await more name calling.
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 @Squarepedaler12: oh wow, thanks for confirming, yep you're definitely a dum-dum
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 @Squarepedaler12: ...or maybe just a troll, but not a very good one.
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 this is the problem with mountain biking.
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 lame
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 Should have checked myself before sending, my apologies to all. It’s a fine example of a ti bike with some modern geo. Would be cool to ride it back to back with a kona honzo st, one of my favorites.
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