More Madness From Las Vegas - Interbike 2016

Sep 23, 2016
by Richard Cunningham  
Interbike 2016

Forgotten not Gone streamliner
Daily driver: Military veteran Peter Guidry actually drives this baby around town. Through the "Forgotten Not Gone" foundation, he helps many who have served in the armed forces and are having trouble re-entering society.

Enduro locking BB for pres-fit applications
Enduro Bearings makes a range of thread-together bottom bracket assemblies for press-fit systems. The cups cinch together and, reportedly, eliminate creaking associated with conventional press-in systems. Prices range from $189 to $289 USD.

Bosch drive motor
What is inside a Bosch electric bicycle drive system? Most of the electronics communicate between torque sensors and speed controls.

HED Raptor Rim
HED's Raptor 45-millimeter carbon rim and wheelset was one of the most promising new designs at the show. Built wheels use Industry Nine or Onyx hubs.

HED Raptor Rim
Locking bead wells and short flanges secure Plus-sized tires from lateral forces. The 27.5-inch rim weighs only 420 grams.
HED Raptor
The center section of the "Y" shaped profile is raised to add rigidity and vertical strength, and then the rim flares out to catch the tire beads.

Defeet socks
Defeet's sock range began here - and then it got wild.

Bopworks molded padding
Bopworx makes high quality padding devices that protect your bike from harm while it is inside a travel case, when lashed to a bike rack, or crammed into your vehicle. Elements are purchased separately as needed. The axle spreaders fit both through-axles and quick release models. Rollers protect fork lowers from grinding on the pavement.

POC Coron day glo helmet
"Friends don't let friends wear Day-Glo." The Coron full-face helmet. POC evidently did not get that memo.

Maxxis ForeKaster 27.5 x 2.5
Maxxis showed a 27.5 by 2.6-inch tire with a wide-spaced, aggressive tread pattern.
maxxis Forekaster 2.6 tire
My first thought was that the Forekaster could be the perfect "mud spike" for Plus-sized bikes.


VerifiR: Invisible Security Chip that Anyone Can Read

Ever wonder if that Santa Cruz V-10 leaning on the coffee house wall was the one that was stolen from your garage last year? Innovator Jurgen Schmerler developed a security chip that can be molded into a carbon frame, secured with adhesives to a metal one, added in the form of a decal, or concealed under a painted finish. When scanned closely by any smart phone, the chip launches a free app, which then indicates what kind of bike it is, who it belongs to, and whether it has been stolen or not. Reportedly, at least one conspicuous brand is inserting the chip into select production bikes for 2017 and beyond.
Jurgen Schmerler
VerifiR inventor and founder Jurgen Schmerler.

VerifiR
VerifiR requires no battery. The chip is activated by energy radiating from the phone.
VerifiR
The chip can be hidden inside the frame or applied like a decal - a plus for retailers or owners.


The low calorie version is called Sliim
... and, our low-calorie drink is called "Sliim."

Mechanic s competition
Mechanics raced to complete complicated rebuilds and wrenching tasks in an elimination-round-style competition that took place over two days. The winner was Win Allen, owner of Win's Wheels, a pro shop in Southern California.

KMC instant Eagle conversion
You don't have to have a SRAM Eagle XX1 transmission to dazzle your friends with a golden chain. KMC's titanium-nitride-plated, hollow-pin, slotted X11 SL chain costs about $90, weighs only 242 grams, and is the maker's best 11-speed option. A 12-speed chain is in the works.

Blur trailbike
Affordable performance: We publish a lot of news about superbikes with sticker prices hovering near ten thousand dollars. The Blue Crew is a 140-millimeter-travel trail bike that costs $2800 USD, with a good parts spec' based around a SRAM GX one-by-eleven drivetrain and RockShox suspension. Rideblue.com

electric powered la Ferrari for your toddler
Rastar's La Ferrari replica is electric powered with functional lights - and it can be driven conventionally, or operated by radio remote control, should its youthful owner not be up to the task. www.rastar.cn

Wear-Design
Wear-Design, a French garment maker, will sublimate your team graphics on the chamois pad in your shorts. I couldn't help thinking that location would be more appropriate for the likeness of an arch rival, a nagging boss, or perhaps an unfavorable presidential candidate.

Zoic Rhoam Women s shoe 2016
Zoic launched a range of flat-soled shoes called Rhoam for both men and women. The Women's range is shown here.

Zoic Rhoam Women s shoe 2016
Women's Rhoam is sold in three colors, Uppers are suede with mesh ventilation: $80 USD, sizes: 5 through 10. Men's sizes are 4 through 14
Zoic Rhoam Women s shoe 2016
The Rhoam sole uses the same "HookUp" rubber that Zoic co-developed for its original Prophet shoe. Men's versions have a black sole.

RST dropper post
RST's Elev8 dropper post uses a rectangular shaft that rolls on pre-loaded needle bearings to eliminate side play - like Cannondale's Lefty "fork."

RST dropper post
The gas-spring/hydraulic cartridge can be removed and replaced from the top of the post with simple tools. The post is cable actuated and comes with two remotes: one top and one low-mount. Diameters are 30.9 and 31.8 and strokes are 125 and 150 mm. MSRP is $290 USD.
RST dropper post

e-bike







bigquotesAfter dropper posts hit 170, it was only a matter of time when one of the dropper companies said, 'Oh yeah?' ...and made a 200-millimeter post.
- Heard at Interbike

9-point-8 200mm dropper post
9point8 offers dropper seatposts in strokes from 50, to a whopping 200 millimeters.

Reynolds 275 plus wheels
Reynolds 275 Plus Carbon wheels feature 40-millimeter inner-width carbon rims with low bead flanges and come prepared for tubeless. Hubs are Industry Nine with Boost axle spacing and I-Nine's three-degree freehub engagement. Reynolds pegs the weight at 1495 grams a pair. MSRP is $2500 USD.

Reynolds 275 plus wheels
Reynolds chose a lower profile for its premier 27.5+ rim - presumably to add some compliance. Graphics are more subdued for 2017.
Reynolds 275 plus wheels
Minimal bead flanges prevent the tire from levering the bead away from the rim when it is laterally flexed.

ISM saddle
I am sure there is a much more scientific explanation for this well constructed and innovative looking saddle, but I see a slipped-pedal-no-dropper-double-sack-popper.

Hope Woody Hole


bigquotesRunning a larger cog than you need gives you more than a bail-out gear. You will spend more of your climbing time in the outboard cogs, so your chainline is better. You can back-pedal without the chain dropping down the cassette and you have less wear on the components.
- Woody Hole: EWS racer and Hope manufacturing coordinator

Hope Cassette
Hope's extended range 10 by 46 tooth, 11-speed cassette.

Monkey paint scheme
Because everyone should have at least one bike with monkeys painted on it.

Gform 2017
G-Form added some length to the sleeves, gripper strips, and thicker padding with more wrap-around.
Gform 2017
The knee guards now have thicker padding and significantly more side coverage, with a vented mesh panel in the back.

Gform 2017
G-Form also had a cargo-style bib-shorts with padded hips on display. The shoulder straps are wide and constructed from a soft, vented material.

Gform 2017
Rotor announced that it would be making direct-mount, narrow-wide Q-Ring chainrings for its own cranksets, as well as SRAM and Race Face.
Rotor 2017
Rotor's direct-mount ring (right) can be indexed in five-degree increments to position the oval sprocket to maximize torque. Race Face Q-rings can also be timed, but SRAM's location (left) is fixed.

162 Comments

  • + 147
 It's been awhile since I was into the skate game at all, but the logo in the sole of those Zoics looks a lot like an old Osiris logo to me..
  • + 11
 Yeah it does...
  • + 61
 Found on their website :
We teamed with Osiris, who have been making freeride, bmx and skate shoes for 20 years, to develop a flat pedal bike shoe for everyone. The Prophet is a fusion of Osiris heritage in action sports footwear with ZOIC design aesthetic and expertise with mountain biking performance.
  • + 6
 Same thing I thought! I might have to get a pair for old times' sake...
  • - 19
flag moose-619 (Sep 23, 2016 at 7:36) (Below Threshold)
 it's a straight up copy
  • + 6
 @moose-619: Osiris makes them...
  • + 10
 I think I just found my next shoe!
  • - 14
flag WayneParsons (Sep 23, 2016 at 8:00) (Below Threshold)
 I'm surprised they tried to model their shoes after 90's era skateboard shoes, a particularly terrible shoe at that. I like the direction 5-10 went in regards to the MacCaskill shoe design. Looks slimmer and more modern. Twenty year old skate shoes aren't exactly a 'look' we should be trying to copy.
  • + 1
 I came here to say same. I have a pair of Osiris Caswell (thanx tk maxx) and I like them, but the pattern on the sole wears out real quick on flat pedals, would hope these Zoics aren't the same, they look good and pretty keenly priced too.
  • + 2
 Classic style, good price, size 14. I'm completely sold on these
  • + 1
 At last a shoe with fully stitched soles! Looks are fine, casual and understated enough to wear off the bike. If they are reasonably priced I'd gladly give them a try.
  • + 4
 @chillrider199: Yes, Zoic partnered with them. In the hand, they are high quality shoes.
RC
  • + 3
 @RichardCunningham: If they are tough shoes with removable insoles, they intered the market at a good time.
  • + 2
 @src248: when I worked in a BMX/skate shop an customers wanted shoes 12 an up. most of the time it was Osiris that held a good stock
  • + 1
 @RichardCunningham: I noticed the Osiris logo in coverage about these shoes elsewhere but with no mention of the partnership. I feel like Zoic should probably lead with that. Osiris likely has much more brand caché than Zoic, especially among the targeted customer base for these.
  • + 1
 @nojzilla: yes sir. Osiris, lakai, and etnies all make proper skate shoes in big sizes.
  • + 1
 @Marmot-fr thanks for the context! I've always wondered why skate companies didn't develop a more stiff sole and a put an arch in an do an mtb line? That was before I understand how massive skate is vs mtb, and realized that it just must not be worth trying to out 5-10, 5-10...
  • + 1
 @jason745: exactly...if nothing more, it would be great marketing.
  • + 1
 @VwHarman: because to just about every skateboarder on the planet, we're just a bunch of kooks. Slightly behind roller bladers.
  • + 4
 @Marmot-fr: if they only had the stash pocket in the tongue like the old Osiris shoes...
  • + 1
 I read, Osiris had a bunch of sole units they needed to get rid of, hey presto co-lab.
  • + 1
 Yep I knew this was gonna be commented on lol it was exactly what I thought!!!
  • + 2
 If you Google the shoe, a wholesale order form comes up that shows the wholesale price is $40.... if I could get a pair for $55-60 from a retailer I'd be totally sold (no pun intended)
  • + 1
 I prophesize these zoic shoes will be my next shoe purchase.
  • + 1
 Exactly what i thought
  • + 112
 I pity the fool who pays $90 for a gold chain and doesn't wear it around their neck.
  • + 3
 Lol
  • + 10
 Take a bow sir. If only I could upvote more than once
  • + 1
 Classic.
  • + 35
 Hmmmm? a threaded press fit BB? Here's a novel concept........how about a threaded BB? Pull your head out of your lower posterior bike industry!
  • + 61
 Umm I'm pretty sure that's a little guy solving the problem with a dumb standard.... So ya
  • + 9
 Specialized went back to threaded BBs for the aluminum 2017 enduro.
  • + 5
 I looked into this Enduro threaded PF bottom bracket when was building my bike about 18 months ago, but it wasn't ready yet (or they didn't have the correct one in stock yet... I forget).

So I got a similar one from Clavicula (err... the company that makes Clavicula cranks...) and it's been perfect... easy to install and trouble free since then. Enduro's design looks really dialed in though.

This is a great solution for those of us unfortunate millions who are stuck with PF BBs.
  • + 5
 Do the threaded press-fit BB's turn as they are pushed into the frame?

I dont have any experiance with push fit BB's, are they a tolerance fit like a headset?

If the BB does turn when tightened and it is a tolerance fit I cant see it doing the interface much good when being installed, especially with carbon frames, I can imagine the interference fit would be reduced pretty quickly.
  • + 1
 @Racer951: The one I got could be described as a "no-slop" fit... not sure what the technically correct term is.

Where the original press-fit cups actually are press-fit, these threaded (con)versions are not.

The Enduro brand version could be slightly different, but the one I got basically turns relatively easily in the BB shell but without any extra play. So wearing out the BB shell fit should be a non-issue.

It's held in place mostly by the clamping force of the BB cups against the face of the BB shell.

I used some teflon plumbers paste between the aluminum cups and the (carbon) BB shell. Trouble / creak / squeak free!
  • + 8
 Wheels Manufacturing makes aluminum-cup thread-together BBs just like this one from Enduro (and they even have Enduro bearings in them, too...) for a lot less money. They start at $75 retail for ABEC-3 bearings, some with the option of black or red cups.

They make them for PF30, BB86/90/92, and BB Right. They even make BB30 and PF30 BBs that convert the frame for use with 24mm-spindle outboard-bearing cranks like Shimano, standard Sram/Truvativ, RaceFace, etc.

Any shop that uses QBP or J&B as distributors can get them.
  • + 1
 There is nothing enduro about those bearings!? #huckingisthenewenduro Neat way to solve a problem created by a dumb standard. A bit like the pharmaceutical companies who both invent and cure syndromes. Get your head out yer arse bike industry Well said @Tcolbert
  • + 0
 I have recently had to buy a bb92 pressfit for a warranty replacement.
Not wanting to speak too soon but it was a piece of piss to fit, cost £25 and if it goes wobbly and noisey I will just buy a new one for £25.
Not sure what the beef is really. Its a BB. Its a throw away item. In Britain anyway. That fella will be sumped shortly!
  • + 2
 Warranty frame that is. Dont get excited it was the bb that failed!
  • + 2
 A bit off topic for you comment, i would like to share my experience working with Torqtite bottom bracket which is similar concept as this product.

It was a nightmare for installation and removal. I installed that bb on my mojo slr, the tolerance is super tight and require press in one cup first because the thread is not long enough to engaged even if was fully extended.

After pressing in first cup, the other cup was installed by turning since it is threaded. It was a nightmare because the frame and the bb have very tight tolerance, you can imagine if you have to turn the headset cup against the head tube and the potential damage it can cause (a bit exaggerated but principle is the same).

Finally, worst part, it has a rubber ring, it was shifted and causing the bb to stuck, it was a tough time removing it and it surely cause damage to the bb area surrounding.

I'll elaborate my experience if necessary. I just hope my experience can help other bikers.

My conclusion, there are high chance press fit bb will cause noise issue; i saw other's comment and is always 50/50 (half ppl say no problem and the other half opposite). Beside the noise, serviceability is also a big issue for press fit bb or even this new product. The frame design is so lean that there is no room for me to use threaded tool to gently extract the bb out, pretty much only way was hammering. Therefore, my new bike criteria: threaded bb is a must... And i settled on mojo hd3

Hope it helps and good luck
  • + 2
 @eimechanics34: Thanks for sharing. Yeah, this scenario would definitely suck.

Now I'm glad I didn't buy that Enduro TorqTite BB. I would hope they fixed the situation with their new design above.

The one I got (from THM Carbones... the Clavicula people) is pretty sweet.
  • + 1
 @axleworthington: all the new Enduro models have threaded bottom brackets.
  • + 5
 I've passed on some seriously good bike deals because they have PF bottom brackets. Not going down that road again.
  • + 1
 I'm selling a Wheels MFG PF30 with Enduro angular contact bearings ($100 retail) with the Park Tool installation wrench ($18 retail) for 83 bucks. Its in the buy/sell section.

Yeah, a threaded BB would be nice, but a ton of bikes come PF so here's the solution to an otherwise less than desirable standard.

Sorry to hear eimechanics34 had such issues with the Torqtite.

The Wheels MFG is a pressfit BB, unlike Torqtite which is a threaded BB designed for pressfit BB shells. So the designs are not that similar. Its not any additional stress on the BB shell to wrench in the Wheels MFG BB the final few millimeters. The biggest risk involves the press in step, which is universal to all PF BB shells. I'm only selling mine because my frame's BB shell has an aluminum insert which prevents the male/female threads of the Wheels MFG BB from making contact. As long as your bike has an obstruction free BB shell, there should be no issues.

Also, eimechanics makes reference to a headset cup and headtube, sounds like a headset install, so I'm confused...
  • + 1
 I have one of those threaded Enduro BBs in my Mach 6. Went in easily (they recommend greasing the inside of the BB shell to easy the BB going in, which I did), and has been creak- and maintenance-free for the last year+.
  • + 1
 @mountaincross:

sorry for confusing comment, It has nothing to do with headset, just wanna make a comparison.

After installing first cup, the second cup is screwed in. But the tolerance between my frame and that cup is very tight. However, i have to turn the cup hard in order to install it, and it's rub against the frame. Lube was used but couldn't help much. It's a tolerance issue, but other brand bike frame may work better.

I just want reader to imagine turning a tight tolerances cup against the frame is bad, it'll cause damage, but that was the situation when i installed the Torqtite bb.
  • + 2
 @eimechanics34: Unfortunately those BBs did not all ship with good instructions. At least this part of your complaint could have been solved:

"Finally, worst part, it has a rubber ring, it was shifted and causing the bb to stuck, it was a tough time removing it and it surely cause damage to the bb area surrounding."

The large flat poly rings are only to be used on loose tolerance fits. Since the fit was already tight, I'm not surprised the ring gave you such a problem. Unfortunate that you weren't aware that the rings are only to be used "as needed." Normally the rings should be in their own bag with a tag that reads "use when press fit is loose," (or similar wording).
  • + 32
 cool computer chip idea!
  • + 11
 It'd be really cool if it could help track a bike too.
  • + 6
 @bike-vt: Just get on of those key finders and put it in your seat-tube??? LOL!
  • + 2
 I've been wanting to get that same idea going for surfboards for a while now. Would be easy to put it in before laminating or even add one after if you were so inclined.
  • + 3
 It's an awesome idea! Given the costs of this dirty hobby, it's amazing that bike theft recovery is still such a lacking market. Unfortunately, i can't see this being highly useful outside of the imbed application. Won't take long for thieves to realize the deal and just scan stolen bikes and remove the chip. Unless they are somehow able to limit the app to purchasers. And no one hacks it. That said, i'd probably still buy it as a just in case if it was reasonably priced.
  • + 4
 @bikesoverbritches: They have at least one surfboard maker who is embedding the chip.
RC
  • + 14
 Those two-pronged saddles look like a doctor's gloved fingers ready for some intensive examination.
  • + 14
 Looks like a scrotum shucker if you ask me. It'll just rip an old man's bag clean off.
  • + 1
 Female specific saddle so yes if you should decide to saddle up all things stated might happen and then some.
  • + 11
 "Bosch electric bicycle drive system"
This is unacceptable provocation on Pinkbike. I'm calling in NATO. Hang on tight.
  • + 4
 I'm pretty sure Bosch deliver most parts for NATO, just like they do for most parts on most cars (regardless of brand).
  • - 6
flag markg1150 (Sep 23, 2016 at 8:51) (Below Threshold)
 Ha hahaha NATO makes my laugh just thinking how totally pathetic and worthless it is. Sorry off topic. Better idea call green peace and tell them them e bikes are used to hunt down rhinos. They smoke just enough to believe you but not to much that they can't be arsed to do anything about it
  • + 1
 Tires plus and electric motors: the worst thing that happened to mountain biking in 20 years.
  • - 2
 @markg1150: so you do a better job saving the world....nice
  • + 6
 Wear-Design, a French garment maker, will sublimate your team graphics on the chamois pad in your shorts. I couldn't help thinking that location would be more appropriate for the likeness of an arch rival, a nagging boss, or perhaps an unfavorable presidential candidate. Or better yet an unfavorable president. I'd be all over that.
  • + 4
 @Maxxis can you please add a few more DD tires to your line up!?!?! EXO is not enough and I think I'm limited to the DHF, and Aggressor for now with 30mm ID wheelset...I've even went to the 2.5WT DD on the front/rear but would be stoked on something with a little tougher rubber on the rear to be honest - grip is on-point though, but they rapidly wear on the side knobs. Cheers
  • + 5
 11 spd 9/10-46 cassettes seem like a good idea. Expand you range without the rediculous long cage mech and stupid 50 tooth wheel. Realistically I don't think anyone "needs" an eagle.
  • + 3
 Nobody "needs" mtn bikes either.

Who gives a shit how big my biggest cog is anyway?
  • + 2
 @scary1: But but but, if they can't whine about the size of your cassette then what other things that don't affect them in the slightest are they gonna moan about!
  • + 1
 @scary1: I just don't like the foot long mech clipping trees,
  • + 1
 @mgolder: Well.......ITS A 29er!!!
  • + 4
 not too impressed with bosch using plastic gears, if it was for weight, glass or carbon fiber reinforced plastic would have been a stronger option or if weight wasn't an issue why not sintered metal gears, as 750 euro a drive unit i'd expect something better.
  • + 10
 Plastic gears are quiet, that is probably the main reason for it. Metal gears would whine or would require a sump and oil bath to keep them quiet which means more maintenance. Harder options are also less resistant to impact forces and can crack in extreme cases whereas the little bit of flex in the plastic will let them bend not break as the motor kicks in and out (remember, electric motors have maximum torque at 0rpm). Those gears are massive so they will probably last a long time.

Either way, I ain't buying an Ebike.
  • + 1
 Also not loving the exposed electronic board like that. Shit can get into it I suppose, and make it stop working.
  • + 2
 @Archimonde: I'm sure it's all encased, and they just opened it up to show off the internals.
  • + 1
 @Patrick9-32: I wouldn't piss on an e-bike even if it was on fire
  • + 1
 @weebleswobbles: Because it is a good way to get an electric shock in the dick? Never use water on electrical fires. C02 or dry powder only.
  • + 1
 @Patrick9-32: not just that, water in the urine would make the fire larger, also foam is a good choice to extinguishing chemical fires.
  • + 3
 For those of you riding nice frames, but have creaky, poorly-fit press-fit BBs...and saw the nice Enduro thread-together BBs in the article above, but are thinking, "WTF??" when you see the price of $190-290:

Wheels Manufacturing makes aluminum-cup thread-together BBs just like this one from Enduro (and they even have Enduro bearings in them, too...) for a whole lot less money. They start at $75 retail for ABEC-3 bearings, some with the option of black or red cups.

The price does go up for angular-contact bearing models ($100), and for Zero Ceramic models ($175), but even that high-end price is less than the cheapest Enduro-branded BBs.

They make them for PF30, BB86/90/92, and BB Right. They even make BB30 and PF30 BBs that convert the frame for use with 24mm-spindle outboard-bearing cranks like Shimano, standard Sram/Truvativ, RaceFace, etc.

Any shop that uses QBP or J&B as distributors can get them.
  • + 1
 @tmargeson I'm building a SB6C I picked up and want to do this. I have SRAM / boost cranks and am not entirely sure what I need. Any thoughts?
  • + 2
 The creaks on my bike's BB never go beyond $50.
  • + 5
 All my bikes have threaded BBs for good reasons. Easy to install and replace when necessary and are dirt cheap. The last bottom bracket I bought cost me $20 and has lasted awhile. Even if I have to replace them often, it's only $20 and takes no more than 5 minutes. Don't have to take it to a shop or try pounding it out myself risking damage to the frame. Pressfit BB suck.
  • + 2
 @ride4austin: Meant to + prop you, not -. Sorry man!
  • + 2
 @ride4austin: Agreed on all points, and I will never buy a frame with a press fit BB myself. Even though $75 is less than half the price of the Enduro in this article, that's still more than triple the price of a standard outboard bearing threaded BB, as you pointed out. It's nuts.

But I've installed a number of these Wheels Mfg BBs for customers in my shop after they already bought a bike/frame not knowing beforehand the issues they would face. Fixed them all up with these BBs, and they are all happy that they spent $75 to fix the problem, as opposed to a couple thousand for a new frame.

So yeah, if you can prevent the problem in the first place by buying a frame with a threaded BB, that's the way to go. But if you already have a frame that you like and are having these problems, this ends up being a good cheaper solution.
  • + 1
 @nicolai12: Go to wheelsmfg.com, click on bottom brackets, click on the type of BB your Yeti has (searching for SB6C specs myself, I found a review saying it has a BB92, and another saying it has PF30, so I leave it to you to sort that out), then choose the BB that threads together and says it works for 22/24mm Sram cranks.

If your frame has a BB92, this should be what you need:

wheelsmfg.com/bottom-brackets/bb86-92/bb86-92-bottom-brackets/bb86-92-outboard-abec-3-bb-for-24-22mm-sram-cranks-black.html

If you have a PF30 frame, this should be it:

wheelsmfg.com/bottom-brackets/pf30-outboard/pf30-outboard-bottom-brackets/pressfit-30-to-outboard-bottom-bracket-for-24-22mm-cranks-sram-black.html
  • + 1
 @tmargeson: I don't know who you are, but thanks a ton for looking all that stuff up! I'll be on that PF92 tomorrow for my build. Dang - I hate my Trek BB and will updating that soon as well....have you used any of their BBs by chance? Thanks again
  • + 5
 That looks like an ISM saddle. The RST dropper post made a smart move using the sided shaft and bearings.
  • + 3
 So a 150 dropper that doesn't wiggle, has a simple to replace cartridge, and is under $300? If it doesn't weigh over 600 gr twould be hard to resist!
  • + 4
 @railin: They told me the replacement cartridge was like... twenty something bucks US, but that couldn't be correct.
  • + 1
 This finally has me interested in a dropper.
  • + 4
 "Reynolds 275 Pus Carbon"

Yeah, I don't think I'll be buying into that particular 2017 trend. The double-sack-popper looks intriguing, though.
  • + 1
 They are big in the time trial scene, where you don't tend to do too much landing on your saddle
  • + 4
 It's just a TT / Tri saddle no?
  • + 1
 @L0rdTom ; @maxlombardy: Yeah, I know. Sorry. It was a terrible joke, riffing on the "pus" typo. I am duly ashamed at my failure.
  • + 1
 Not mentioned in the article, 9.8 was also showing off external (non-stealth) dropper posts going down to 27.2 diameters, and a new handlebar actuator. Albeit, the non stealth droppers weren't so pretty with an external box, about half the size of a deck of cards attached to the back of the post.

Anyone else producing a dropper as reportedly reliable at a more competitive price?
  • + 1
 I'm starting to become sceptical of the Fall Line seat posts as he shop I work at has been listed on their website as the Australian importer and distributor for over a year now and we are yet to see a single post or even a sample from them....
  • + 1
 Running a larger cog than you need gives you more than a bail-out gear. You will spend more of your climbing time in the outboard cogs, so your chainline is better. You can back-pedal without the chain dropping down the cassette and you have less wear on the components.
- Woody Hole: EWS racer and Hope manufacturing coordinator
Alrighty then..solution: 1x10
  • + 1
 Surprised were not seeing more new bibs from more companies with lots of pockets, flys, venting, as going packless has been one of the biggest trends in mtb over last couple years.
  • + 2
 Except the fact those bibs look like the bottle in the back sits well below your shorts waistline. Specialized has it dialled, but also believe they have a patent on the bit to hang outside of your shorts. Which is really the selling point.
  • + 2
 Why have a threaded PF BB if PF is better than threaded? BS "It's better" marketing. Wish that POC came in piss yellow and black.
  • + 1
 Does that Hope cassette work with sram drivetrain? I have completely worn out my XG-1195 cassette and it's time to replace it....(best price I can find is $275 w/ free shipping). Wonder how much the Hope costs?
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 Those G-Form pads always look like they're inside out...
  • + 1
 I got the Pro-B shorts this year and it wasn't long before I crashed a few times straight to the hip. Awesome shorts and great protection. I always like wearing chamois shorts so these are great because they have a comfortable chamois and the hip and tailbone padding works really well. I've crashed in them on trail and downhill outings and they did their job. Barely even notice the padding when wearing or riding.
  • + 1
 That hope picture does not justice to the set up they had there. I've got some better ones I took with my crappy cell phone. That bike was sick as hell.
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 The Eiffel Tower... with BIG balls!!

On a ''lecock grande'' shaped chamois??
  • + 1
 I was wondering if anyone else was going to point this out. All I saw in that graphic was a dick and balls.
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 "Running a larger cog than you need gives you more than a bail-out gear. You will spend more of your climbing time in the outboard cogs, so your chainline is better. You can back-pedal without the chain dropping down the cassette and you have less wear on the components" - So basically what Woody Hole is saying is that Sram Eagle is a 11-speed cassette with a fancy retainer? Now Eagle finally makes all sense to me.
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 Not keen on plus bikes, but that forecaster tyre looks like an awesome front mud tyre for when it gets real sloppy.
  • + 1
 I assume those various bottles on the nuun stand are urine samples from people who have drunk their various energy drinks in the last 12 hours?
  • + 1
 how much for the Ferrari by www.rastar.cn ? I would love to spoil my kid ! the site is all in Chinese and ... it's pretty hard to understand
  • + 2
 Holy Chinese Ebikes bat man!!!! Half that convention was ebikes, fatty's, and plus size
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 And they wonder why no one shows up.
  • + 1
 "I see a slipped-pedal-no-dropper-double-sack-popper." I am laughing my ass off so hard about this!
  • + 1
 an embedded VerifiR...this makes buying a carbon frame totally legit!! super idea!
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 Woody Hole - his parents must have really had it out for him...
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 I agree, that chip is a game changer especially if bike companies started fitting it stock.
  • + 1
 Yes maybe actually do some design work on the sole tread pattern if want to call it a mountain bike shoe
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 Looks as wide as my old sun rims double wides
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 My Bell Sanction is day-glo *sigh*
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 There's nothing wrong with it. It's a color; who cares?
  • + 2
 @spankthewan @Nahguavkire

ive got some of the new 7iDP Tactic gloves, day glo as yer like, they look cool....

b*llocks to the haters hahahaha
  • + 2
 if you ever crash, the colour wont matter, the fact your head is still in one piece and your brain still situated inside your skull will override the dayglo... Big Grin
  • + 1
 Loving the threated BB's for pressfit! Why make it such a fiddly f-ing job!
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 That cheap idea will not be chip for sure... Beer

But still a great idea for protecting our investments. Cheers.
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 $200 for a bottom bracket? What in the actual?
  • + 3
 Only way to"fix" press fits
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 Wheels Manufacturing makes aluminum-cup thread-together BBs just like this one (and they even have Enduro bearings in them, too...) for a lot less money. They start at $75 retail for ABEC-3 bearings inside. They make them for PF30, BB86/90/92, and BB Right frames. No more creaking or sloppy/tight fits.
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 @tmargeson: nice to know for people that bought press fit. I always stuck with threaded so
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 @weebleswobbles: Believe me, a standard, threaded BB is an absolute requirement for me when I buy a frame or bike as well. But yeah, if someone has a frame with a pressfit BB and is having creak issues, although even $75 is a lot of money for a BB, it's a lot less than buying a new frame for a couple thousand, for sure! Smile
  • + 2
 Melon Muntz called... He wants his soap box derby racer back.
  • + 1
 Wanna successfully re-enter society sergeant?Drive this bomb cycle around town.

Or bomb down some dh tracks.
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 If you spend $90 on a chain, you're an idiot.
  • + 1
 Can someone tell me the difference between bearings and Enduro bearings please?
  • + 5
 Bearings are not enduro, while Enduro bearings are enduro! In theory enduro ones will last longer due better seals and build materials.
  • + 3
 Enduro are a bearing company that started long before the race format recently got "cool". They also make seals that last forever and scrape the coating off your forks.
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 brand name.
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 Enduro is a company that makes bearings. They have been doing so since long before Enduro racing got cool, and have no association with Specialized who makes a bike called the Enduro. Or various clothing companies who make products called the Enduro. So now you can Enduro on your Enduro with Enduro in Enduro, and it will be grammatically correct.
  • - 2
 rather bad and expensive bearings. get SKF bearings if you want them to last...
  • + 2
 @jzPV: Is this a case of the usual 'well I had a bad experience so now I will say that my experience applies as fact for everyone'?
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 @jzPV: Could you share your experience?
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 @jzPV: I would agree. My last frame had the same sized bearings as in a longboard - 10mm inner diameter. I bought a set of Bear LB bearings for a fraction of the price of enduro bearings and they lasted the life of the frame. I went though several enduro bearings. Sample of one, but you get the idea.
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 @L0rdTom: Yup. Enduro seals will destroy your fork. Don't know what their other products do and am not interested in finding out.
  • + 2
 @Caiokv: I've got an SB66 so it was specced with enduro max bearings all around. mud didn't seem to cause too much problems, but last season was very dusty in europe and this killed the bearings. the main pivot bearing (the smaller one inside the switch link) is an angular contact bearing with dimensions I did not find from other manufacturers, so I had to buy the original ones. not even a month later including 3 dusty days in saalbach and it seems it is gone again...
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 @WayneParsons: which enduro bearing did you have? They make a few different styles, one for suspension and one for wheels. Obviously they are cross compatible, but are better suited to one or the other.
  • + 1
 @bonfire: enduromax frame/pivot bearings
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 @WayneParsons: That axle standard has largely been phased out in the longboard world... which means there's a bunch of 10mm bearings to be had for cheap! haha! There's at least two new sets in the hardware drawer at The Stoop Skatehouse... I wonder if they fit in my Ginat AnthemX?
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 @HubCityCycles: yeah I know. There are still some wrongboarders who insist on using that size. Not sure why
  • + 0
 @L0rdTom: Please don't make outlandish claims that tarnish the reputation of a brand. Seals are not capable of wearing the hardened coating of a stanchion tube. If seals could wear stanchion tubes, then stanchion damage, when it occurred, would run the entire contact point of the seals. It never does. It always shows up on the fork where the stanchions are at the greatest friction point with the bushings. Very often, all the damage is in fact below the seal level, where the seals have never even contacted the tubes.

Stanchion wear is always due to one of two things (or a combination of both):

1) Lack of lubrication at the bushing, causing metal to metal wear.
a) Due to not keeping oil level up
or
b) Due to wrong tolerance between bushing and stanchion tube

2) Ingress of contaminants that get trapped and act as an abrasive.
  • + 1
 @Caiokv: update on that enduro bearings situation. after being injured since the beginning of august, I just took the SB66 apart and the main pivot enduro bearings just disintegrated. 1 fire road tour, 3 days saalbach, 3 days hometrails and one day at the bikepark brandnertal (where I broke my wrist...): www.pinkbike.com/photo/14141263
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 @jzPV: Thanks for the update! And too bad about those bearings! Guess l will just stick to INA bearings at 1/3 of the price!
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 @Caiokv: good choice. unfortunately those are angular contact bearings, so the choices are limited and prices are often astronomical...
  • + 1
 anyone notice the blue crew bike is green.........annnnnnnd HOW THE HELL IS IT STANDING UP BY ITSELF?!!?! #mindblown
  • + 1
 200mm dropper, I can't see needing that ever
  • - 1
 I've had it for a year now, love it, and I'm stoked to see it's available to the public. Measure your road bike and DH bike seat heights and see if they're at least 200mm different. Mine are 205 different. If you're shorter, no problem, there's shorter posts but us tall guys like droppers too.
  • + 1
 @lelandjt: would you take your road or xc bike on a dh track with the seat that low? No because the geometry is still so different it makes no sense, just like a 200mm dropper
  • + 1
 That E bike is dope for sunday pub cruises. The chip is an awesome idea
  • + 0
 Hmm, might be fun to sit on Clinton's face.
  • - 1
 "Friends don't let friends wear Day-Glo."
So true!
  • + 1
 of course you do...then you take the piss out of them!
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 Really? I am all over that one. Gotta love the Day-Glo!!!
  • + 5
 Bro, this isn't a fashion website. Don't listen to this hack.
  • + 1
 @spankthewan: To each his own, bro, to each his own.
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