MRP Has 2 New Forks, But 1 is Lighter & Costs Less - Interbike 2018

Sep 17, 2018
by Mike Levy  
MRP's Ribbon has impressed a lot of people, but the fact that its stanchion tubes and internals are long enough to run its travel from 120mm to 160mm (on the 29er) means that it's never going to be as light as it would be if it had a fixed amount of low travel. You know, like the new, 130mm Ribbon SL that's pictured above.


Ribbon SL

Intended use: cross-country / trail
Travel: 120mm, 130mm (internally adjustable)
Wheel size: 27.5+, 29''
Spring: air
Damper: twin-tube
Stanchions: 35mm
Adjustments: low-speed compression, low-speed rebound, air volume, FullFill air spring system
Price: $899 USD
More info: www.mrpbike.com


The SL's stanchion tubes only need to be long enough to deal with 130mm of stroke (you can drop it to 120mm), which saves weight. The air rod can be shorter, which saves weight. The damper rod can be shorter, which saves weight. There's less oil in the damper, too, which saves yet more weight.

All that economy adds up to 3.95lb or about 0.25lb less than the standard Ribbon, MRP says.
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With its travel adjustable only between 120mm and 130mm, the Ribbon SL can weigh 0.25lb less than the standard Ribbon, MRP says.

The lowers are the same as on the normal Ribbon, so you still get the pressure-releasing PSSST Valve buttons, but MRP ditched the Ramp Control Cartridge that adds speed-sensitive ending-stroke control to save some more weight. Instead, you add or subtract plastic thread-on tokens that are called Huck Pucks. I want to use them for their name alone.

The Ribbon SL is true to its name in that it's lighter, but at $899 USD it actually costs $90 less than the normal Ribbon because it skips the Ramp Control internals. I know, it weighs less AND costs less, which isn't something we're used to.





You can think of the new Raven as a more economical, less adjustable Ribbon. For $799 USD or $190 less than the Ribbon, you'll still get the impressive twin-tube damper that offers low-speed compression and low-speed rebound adjustments. Travel is still variable (internally) between 140mm and 170mm for 27.5'' wheels, and between 120mm to 160mm for big wheels.


Raven

Intended use: trail / all-mountain / enduro
Travel: 140-170mm (27.5''), 120-160mm (29'')
Spring: air
Damper: twin-tube
Adjustments: low-speed compression, rebound, FullFill air spring system
Internally adjustable travel in 5mm and 10mm
Stanchions: 35mm
Price: $799 USD
More info: www.mrpbike.com


For keeping that $190, you'll skip the speed-sensitive Ramp Control Cartridge to tune bottom-out and do it with the thread-on Huck Pucks instead, and you'll be passing on the PSSST Pressure Release Valve buttons that are on the Ribbon's lowers. But given that the Ribbon's twin-tube damper is the main key to its performance, and that the Raven uses it as well, I'm not going too far out on a limb to say that this one looks like it makes sense.
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Want a Ribbon and okay with losing some adjustments? The Raven goes for $799 USD, or $190 less than the Ribbon.



96 Comments

  • 54 19
 Presenting a new fork with hub with boost adaptors installed. Smart move MRP.
  • 11 0
 Given that the placard just behind it says "Better Boost Adapters" they appear to make them now. Though I agree it caught my attention as well.
  • 8 8
 @stinky-d-lux: cuts the whining volume in half Big Grin
  • 12 0
 @stinky-d-lux: They've made them for a while now. Expensive, but very neat in that it requires no re-dishing of the front wheel, and it's bright orange too.
  • 2 0
 first thing I saw, haha. I was wondering if they had proprietary spacing.
  • 3 1
 All they need us a plastic clip in insert for the brake arch and we have a winner
  • 2 0
 Two for one deal on product exposure!
  • 1 0
 I got the adapter in my I9 wheel and is the best investment after I had to replace my fork because an accident, very well manufactured and solid, only complain is that the o-rings coming with the adapter doesn't fit my hub, so I had to replace them with the old ones.
  • 2 0
 @makripper: Straight up. I got to ride one for a week and it's unbelievable, but goddamn that arch is truly hideous. But goddamn does it ever work good. Goddamn.
  • 18 1
 Looks like there's a jaunty angle on the "bushing bulge", but the angle goes the same way, rather than symmetrically. GAH!!!!
  • 8 0
 Well god dammit, now I can't un-see that!
  • 1 2
 Holy Moley that is hideous.

Bummer because the rest of the forks looks real good.

MRP: Fix it! we like symetry!
  • 1 0
 Damnit, Olly!
  • 1 0
 I noticed that also, but it appears the angle might be slightly different between the two sides? Maybe trying to counter braking force induced bending with the non-symmetry?
  • 3 0
 Bartlett fork has it as well. I imagine it's not something you're looking at when you fly down hill. So I'd give it a passing grade. Congrats on being able to be cost competitive MRP!
  • 3 0
 I guess you'd better start putting a caliper on each side of your fork, then. Wink
  • 2 0
 thats so your fork breaks to the left, most people ride right foot forward. MRP cares about your safety.
  • 7 0
 Hey MRP. If figure you are hanging out on here. I recently installed a Ribbon Coil on my Capra 29er. It’s an absolute beast of a fork and does everything well. I just want it in a 170mm. Any plans for that?
  • 5 0
 Good to hear! Working on something like that, can’t commit to an ETA, but it’s on the radar. You could always get a Bartlett. Smile
  • 1 0
 @NoahColorado: Good golly i want a bartlett. Coolest fork out in forever.
  • 7 1
 Need some Huck Pucks to go with my Huck Norris.
  • 3 0
 @NoahColorado Is Raven coil going to be a thing, or would it end up being essentially the same fork w/out psst valves?

Love the ribbon. Got one on every bike except the roadie. #blessed
  • 1 0
 edit: same fork (as the ribbon coil) w/out psst valves?
  • 1 0
 No Raven Coil planned. I suppose if we'd did one we'd remove Ramp Control from it (as we have with the Ribbon Air vs. Raven), which I wouldn't want to personally - it's one of the standout features of the Ribbon Coil.
  • 6 1
 But does it have a trendy fork offset, say 46.98mm?
  • 17 0
 46.98 is so 2018.
This season (because its 2019 now) is all about 46.99
The difference is immeasurable
  • 7 2
 @IllestT: 42.069 duh
  • 3 0
 Oh MRP, you tempt me so. I've been looking for a reason to setup my ribbon for 160mm and move it from my hard tail over to my AM bike...
  • 1 0
 Seriously considering a Ribbon but this makes the choice a bit harder. You could buy a Raven and at some stage down the line drop in a Ramp Control Cartridge and it would be less than the Ribbon and perform the same (I guess).
  • 2 0
 Not a cartridge, in our Ribbon forks the Ramp Control is integrated into the fork to save weight and maximize volume. But you could get those parts down the line (and PSST valve parts if you wanted). There is also a slight difference in the damper architecture of the Ribbon vs. Raven. They're the same in terms of compression, but the rebound circuit is a bit more elaborate on the Ribbon.
  • 5 1
 These were MADE for my down country rig Big Grin
  • 4 0
 where's the air shock we know is coming??
  • 1 0
 I dunno what you're talking about. None. Smile
  • 2 0
 Just ordered an MRP Ribbon for my Evil Calling. I love the Stage, can't wait to try out the Ribbon!
  • 2 0
 The Ribbon SL is the fork I have been waiting for! Stiffer, smoother, and even a little lighter than my Reba 120 Big Grin
  • 2 4
 With MRP charging the way forward to a world without volume spacers, I wonder why they're suddenly embracing the idea with their "Huck pucks". ESPECIALLY when the weight of the ramp control is negligible when compared to a top cap and some volume spacers.... ???? Does it save THAT much more weight?
I would like to see a Ribbon SL with the ramp control remaining intact, and saving weight with the shorter stanchions and internals for 120-130mm...
I think I'll stick with my regular Ribbon for now ????
  • 19 0
 sounds like its a cost saving approach rather than anything else. don't read too much into it.
  • 2 0
 My thought on this: is it possible to aftermarket fit the Ramp Control cartridge to this SL fork ?
@NoaSears and what is THE weight saving here: Ramp Control vs. Huck Puck (max amount) ?
  • 11 1
 Yeah, probably not worth ditching a "standard" Ribbon for SL unless you're really chasing grams - which was the whole point of this fork. As for weight savings of a standard top cap vs. Ramp, it's not much. But neither is the bolt-on vs. QR. Nor the shortened stanchions, damper, or air -spring taken independently. But, it's all these things that got us under 4lbs. And if you're planning to use the fork on a bike at this travel, may as well go lighter, right?

I'll be happy to parse out all the particular weight savings when I get back to the office, don't have those details on hand. Cheers!
  • 2 0
 @NoahColorado: Looks like its meant to compete with the Fox 34 SC, but at more stiffness and cheaper cost. Win win.
  • 2 0
 I have a 120mm fox 34, and I think that shorter travel forks don't really need the ramp control.
  • 1 1
 @hamncheez: I would the the shorter the travel, the more important it is to separate a plush off the start but with the right progression before bottoming? More travel gives more room for error to hide a crappy spring curve. Maybe I'm wrong.
  • 2 0
 I like companies that post replies. The comment section can be such a minefield.
  • 2 0
 The Raven looks pretty good. I’ve always wanted to try a twin tube fork
  • 2 0
 Do these came in the “new” offset 44mm?
  • 4 0
 46 or 51. We have a "cooler than Miles Davis" 41mm offset too. But that would push the SL over 4 lbs. as it's a littler heavier. It's an option though.
  • 2 0
 @NoahColorado:

When and where can I buy a 130mm 41mm offset Ribbon SL? I’m not seeing this stuff on your website yet...
  • 3 0
 @sdurant12: The Ribbon SL and Raven just debuted here at Interbike, so they're not on the web yet. They'll both start shipping in late October.
  • 1 0
 @NoahColorado: Thanks for the update.
  • 1 0
 The slants at the bottom of the crown and the backwards arch always make me cringe at these awesome forks!
  • 1 0
 Why does the raven weigh so much more than the ribbon? the site list the raven at almost a half a pound more
  • 1 0
 I think super boost is the new 20mm axle that we had in the 1990's!
  • 1 0
 How much saving is that in gram?
  • 2 2
 Who the hell would put a raven below a f***ing ribbon?
  • 8 1
 I think you're thinking of a robin... a ribbon is something else entirely
  • 1 1
 The Raven... like the Focus CC Hardtail Raven...
  • 3 4
 Cleaning those arches looks daunting
  • 2 0
 Compressed air
  • 22 1
 They don't get much mud facing to the front... If you ride forward...
  • 5 3
 It'd be sweet if MRP released some sort of cover that made the arches sexy. I can't say I really dig the reverse casted arch. The new F535, even the Pike and of course the new Marzocchi Z1 have sexy arches, but they arent manufactured in the USA.
  • 4 0
 @WilleKn: Don't judge me
  • 3 0
 @PHeller:

I think it's sexy AF! In an industrial batman-esque sorta way. Badass. Maybe get Slik graphics to do some custom bat decals?!
  • 1 1
 @PHeller:

eesh... my bad. blame it on monday. RAVEN not bat decals.
  • 1 4
 "if it had a fixed amount of low travel. You know, like the new, 130mm Ribbon S"

Travel: 120mm, 130mm (internally adjustable)
  • 3 6
 Are we really chasing a 0.25lb weight reduction in an All Mountain fork?
  • 21 2
 Fine by me. Do that 4 times, and you can forget to take a shit before a ride.
  • 5 0
 What they did here was make a Down Country fork!
  • 5 0
 The benefits to this are that if you ride aggressively on a 130mm travel bike, you can shed weight but maintain the rigidity of a 35mm fork (like the Pike). I think this actually makes the Ribbon SL and Fox 34 29 about even in terms of weight, but the MRP should be stiffer (in theory).
  • 5 0
 A quarter pound is quite a bit on a fork. It's quite a bit on a frame even.
  • 2 0
 @NoahColorado: it's even more on the street
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