MS Mondraker Testing an Aluminium Downhill Bike in Lousa

Dec 13, 2019
by James Smurthwaite  

Laurie Greenland and the MS Mondraker team are out in Portugal doing some pre-season testing in Lousa and we think they have a new aluminium downhill bike with them too. Laurie posted the above picture on his Instagram stories and if you look between the concealing lines, you can see a definite weld on the top tube and plenty of raw, silver tubes, a far cry from the usual Mondraker blue and red.

We've also found this video, which we believe is a clip of the bike in action:


While the current Mondraker Summum is still a race-winning bike, thanks to Laurie Greenland at Val di Sole this year, it's one of the very last bikes on the World Cup circuit that is designed to be run with 27.5" front and rear. The team have been running a mullet set up from Crankworx Innsbruck onwards this season but they were simply putting a bigger front wheel in his regular frame rather than using a platform specifically designed for a bigger wheel.

Of course, we've already seen an aluminium prototype Summum at the Lenzerheide World Cup, where it was happily wheeled past media and spectators, but the renewed secrecy has us wondering if there are some further updates on this version.

Mondraker DH prototype at Whistler Crankworx 2019

From the picture we took back then, we noticed that the wheels were both 29 inch, and there was a new upper suspension link that had no window (the current link is an open triangle). Mondraker also confirmed that there were some geometry updates but nothing too drastic as their riders were happy with the current set up.

We're now just 3 months out from the first World Cup in Lousa, will this aluminium frame be the one we see MS Mondraker riders as the season kicks off? We reached out to Mondraker and their statement is below:

bigquotesWe’ve built several different prototypes... 29-29 27-27 and 29-27, which is what Laurie has been recently racing as well. These new bikes also have some improvements, to better suit Laurie’s sizing requirements and also some kinematic updates as well.

Our riders will continue testing, the goal is improving our current Summum and we’ll see if we are ready to race in Lousa, MS-Mondraker team riders will decide. We hope to have this new model ready for 2021.
Israel Romero


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69 Comments

  • 132 12
 Why would anybody ever want a carbon version of this beauty? Raw alu more real than steel
  • 33 2
 This and the raw Gambler... best looking bikes in the biz.

In other news, have you blown your wad over the new Carbonjack 29, @WAKIdesigns ?
  • 8 0
 Couldn't agree more! More raw aluminum please!
  • 27 5
 @MTBrent: in other news Carbon Jack 29 is possibly the best Enduro 29er out there. I am unworthy and I ride so bad that I need more travel though. No actually I am an arrogant edgy bastard so to stay edgy I am going into DownDuro segment and I am getting a 190 climbable quasi DH bike in raw alu. I will make freeride great again!
  • 8 2
 I could do without the kashima fork and orange coil, throw a performance elite and a black spring on there and you've got a RIG
  • 2 0
 @MTBrent: Yup, those and the Legend. Love metal DH bikes
  • 4 0
 Nah. Mondraker will do so some paint job with mismatching colors.
  • 1 0
 @jollyXroger: Probably...
  • 3 1
 Strength, weight, tunability, saleability?
  • 1 0
 @ceecee: I’m with you on this
  • 6 0
 @mtbgeartech: my transition is slowly showing it's true colours(raw) by shading that crappy paint job, one chip at the time...
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: I've been considering stripping my 2008 gambler xc machine for a while too, the frame shape just doesn't seem right for it. if you do yours, I'll do mine
www.pinkbike.com/photo/18078795
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns:
Yeah freeride bikes!
  • 2 0
 @getsomesy: Urban Freeride Optimized! Travel: 0-240mm. Less polluting than mountain biking, especially when conjoined with cyclocommuting, and not consumed as entertainment. Eliminates Road and Mountain, but can be used beyond category in mountains. The bigger the city the better. 'I wasn't getting much of a workout on the Madone, and was tired of walking down the stairs of my 6th floor apartment, so I picked up an M16 on Craigslist....' Could also help with natality/mortality imbalance and not far from yr quiver bike.
  • 2 0
 @MTBrent: But the Gambler takes the win with 275/29/mullet compatibility.
  • 1 0
 @thomas1965: Google image search 2008 Scott Gambler DH10. Scott released a raw version of you want to check it out first.
  • 1 0
 @heavyp: thanks for the link, looks great!
  • 1 0
 @MTBrent: take note @SCOTT-Sports - everyone* wants the 920 frameset option!


*dramatization
  • 1 0
 My '09 Giant Trance X0 still the sexiest bike i've ever ridden.

*Frame finish-wise that is.
  • 1 0
 because i broke my alu Dune this years twice, thats because, carbon lasts longer actually
  • 1 0
 @matzx: heh carbon Mondrakers are not exactly in “the most reliable of all times hall of fame”. There was “a prototype batch” of Summums that Danny and Laurie rode at VDS World champs that were cracking left and right.
  • 1 0
 @matzx: What was your warranty experience?
  • 34 2
 Complete, long term review and testing tomorrow?
  • 9 2
 I honestly doubt this. After all this is all very secret and not even Laurie was allowed to look at the bike while riding, cleaning and even wrenching. Being allowed to view this on this mainstream mtb website is only reserved to those who've mastered the fine art of clicking the bait.

Tomorrow: "Now that was a bike".
  • 6 3
 Just preorder!
  • 2 0
 It says they're not releasing until 2021. Which doesn't make sense. Surely by then we'll all be on 31 inch wheeled gearbox bikes with high pivots.
  • 12 0
 If you would like to see what it looks like. See below.
My guess is they may race an allow bike this year. This is no prototype, this looks like a damn near production bike.

www.wideopenmountainbike.com/2019/12/new-mondraker-summum-prototype-spotted-in-portugal
  • 1 0
 looks like PB got scooped on the scoop.
  • 3 0
 That guy in the background looks like he is freezing his ass off.
  • 3 0
 @PtDiddy: it's 10°c guy needs to grow the F up. Lol
  • 2 0
 Wow it’s lucky they scribbled all over it to stop us seeing it, because it doesn’t look exactly like every other summum in the world. Radical design changes, definitely need to keep them hidden from the competition.
  • 2 0
 Does it look like the upper run of chain is a bit higher than usual?
  • 1 0
 @R-M-R: it absolutley does. Good eye!
  • 1 0
 @TheBearDen: I'm not sure that's what I see, but I'm hopeful for another high-instant-centre-and-idler design. Not convinced they're necessary - or even better - but it's great when the industry tries new(ish) things!
  • 5 0
 "We are testing very expensive prototype bikes in Lousa this weekend. Our bikes will be in a bike white trailer with MS Moonraker stickers at Motel Seis overnight".
  • 1 1
 well, expensive for you and me, not for them.
  • 7 1
 Looks like just an aluminum test mule.
  • 6 0
 I just wanna see the PB huck-to-flat clip of this thing!
  • 6 0
 Aluminum is the new carbon.
  • 2 1
 So you guys have not tried 26"+ on the rear, that is what I ride on my 6fatty, but not many tyres to those from, hope that may change?
I think it works good but I know others will think not, without even trying it?
  • 2 0
 Can’t corner hard enough without rolling those balloons. Run high enough pressure + stiffer sidewall + bigger corner knobs (So that one could corner harder) = moto tire (too heavy). In racing, so much time is in the corners, less so in the comfort of a plus tire smoothing out some chunder.
  • 1 0
 @erikkellison: Problem is more to do with tyres avalable, but I have some good Maxxis in 26"+ & work great, but pretty sure they are not made any more, But they will still have the moulds so could be avalable again
As for moto x tyres do not fit bike rims or would have tried them on my E-bike!
  • 2 2
 @aljoburr: with all due respect, no. It’s not tire availability. If your idea worked, racing teams who do the R&D for tire mfgs would be looking into this. But we did big 26” tires a while back. Fun, not fast. And no offense, but just because you think they work great does not mean they work for the elite, or even the majority.
  • 1 0
 @erikkellison: Only would use 26" on the rear now, much prefer 27.5 up front, as bigger wheels track better up front most sponsored riders are told what tyres or other parts sponsors want them to use, have you even tried this out?
If you cant tell the difference then you would know that 26" accelerate faster, but could tell you more, but if you had tried then you would know that!
Could tell you advantages of shorter cranks too or why you dont need a dinner plate size sprocket?
  • 1 0
 @aljoburr: There are so many variables. With current manufacturing and materials, plus tires on the back (of any diameter) for advanced/elite riders just doesn’t work for racing/pushing corners.
You need to realize it’s not about you or me, and our opinions based on our personal experiences. I’m glad you like your setup. That’s fine - great even! Having fun is what it’s about for most. But don’t deluded yourself or others into thinking that you have the solution for cornering speed with a different rear setup, and this is all just a conspiracy against your ideas. Its not a conspiracy. Plus tires are currently a terrible idea for racing. But for gentle cornering in dry conditions with little that can hurt a tire, go for it.
  • 6 2
 Looks like a Gambler.
  • 1 0
 Fresh
  • 3 0
 Looks like the new Trott Sessambler
  • 1 0
 Mondraker is the first to use technology to hide their prototype frame? Not using some human legs nor random blocky stickers.
  • 2 0
 Good use of Metal, better than plastic!
  • 3 0
 Looks like a bike
  • 1 0
 :-D
  • 1 0
 Notice how Brett Wheeler on his Starling Murmur is keeping up with Laurie on his proto DH bike! Steel for the win!
  • 2 0
 I will admit I was staying close but holy moly going that fast on an Enduro bike is frightening. After this run I went back to my downhill bike. But thank you pinkbike for sharing my video
  • 1 0
 Laurie was bloody flying on this new bike. Thank you pinkbike for sharing the run we did together. It was fun
  • 2 0
 Looks like a Sunday
  • 3 1
 So its an NS Fuzz?
  • 1 0
 That thing is wet, alloy gang for the win!
  • 1 1
 Don't forget! HUCK TO FLAT!!!
  • 1 0
 Very nice
  • 1 0
 I love metal.
  • 1 1
 MA REACH 420 taglia XL vero?
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