MTB Hangtime - The App That Turns Jumping & Cornering Into a Competition

Aug 9, 2021
by Mike Levy  
MTB Hangtime


Phones stopped being just phones a long time ago, and while mine is only used for Candy Crush and taking selfies with my dogs, there are also some mountain bike-specific apps out there that seem interesting. One of those is ShockTune, a no-charge app that employs your phone's accelerometer to measure the forces acting on the bike, thereby giving you an idea of how well (or not) your fork or shock is performing. Another app from the same company that data dorks might be into is MTB Hangtime that, as the name suggests, tells you things like how long you've been in the air. And more air is more better, of course.


How Does MTB Hangtime Work?

Much like ShockTune, the MTB Hangtime app uses your phone's accelerometer to tell you what's going on, with the jump metrics being total time in the air, vertical inches up and down, speed, as well as both the side-to-side and front-to-back angle of your bike.


MTB Hangtime
A 3D map lets you easily see and compare your runs.
MTB Hangtime
You can also examine your performance over individual jumps.


If all those numbers are riveting to you, you can now go deeper thanks to a recent update that allows riders to compare their jumps and even look at them on a 3D map overlay of your ride. That same map also uses colored vertical bars to show you how long you were (or weren't) in the air, so you can easily compare your runs at a quick glance. Want more details? Zoom in on one specific jump to get the exact numbers, and even examine your performance on a very formal-looking graph that shows you the arc your bike traveled on while you were in the air. All that can also be summed up with an overall score that MTB Hangtime gives you each jump, and because everything should be a competition, there's even a leader board on the app so you can compare yourself to other riders.

While the app is focused on jumping, you can also use it to measure your cornering performance. Again, employing your phone's accelerometer lets it measure things like the angle of your bike, both average and maximum corning G-forces, and even the average and maximum braking and acceleration forces. Just like the jumps, you can also go back and compare your runs, or even how you performed in a specific corner on each of those runs.


MTB Hangtime
The app tells you your lean angle and all the G-forces.
MTB Hangtime
It's all displayed in an easy-to-understand way.


With ShockTune, your phone needed to be mounted to your bike perfectly flat or vertical, and while that's not the case with MTB Hangtime, you'll need to make sure it's attached to your bike (not your body) solidly so that it doesn't shake around.

MTB Hangtime isn't intended to be data acquisition for the masses - it's not providing that level of feedback - but the metrics do provide another interesting insight into your rides. Who out there has given it a try? Are you interested to know and compare how you performed over the jumps and through corners?


89 Comments

  • 66 2
 Will it contact emergency services when it detects a sudden stop after hang time?
  • 6 0
 Actually a great idea . Could easily detect crashes
  • 5 0
 Crash detection: youtu.be/ePazm-TSIoI
  • 167 1
 it will automatically upload to friday fails
  • 4 0
 @rjlpb: I was hoping that you linked this video instead m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_Eb9t6VKf4
  • 18 0
 My phone actually sent my location to my mom once when I crashed. Some weird emergency setting buried deep in an iPhone 7. I know, I know, 40 and my mom is still my emergency contact….
  • 23 0
 @kylar: Well, it can't be your riding buddies. Those useless bums are sitting trailside laughing.
  • 10 0
 @kylar: what's wrong with that. I mean my partner is great and all but my mom is really the only one with her shit together enough to actually know what to do and how to get help to the right area for the accident.
  • 5 0
 I read somewhere the other day that Nas listed his daughter as an executive producer on one of his albums so for the rest of her life she gets royalty cheques.

Unfortunately my mum will just get emergency calls…
  • 3 0
 @lifeofloon: ha! Yeah, even 2000 miles away, there is nobody who will pull me out of the woods faster.
  • 1 0
 @rrolly: Not to mention they can't even keep the camera pointed at the subject for the full duration of the crash...
  • 2 0
 @short-but-sweet the last thing my ego needs is an automated alert being sent out every time I stand the bike up so bad in a corner that I come to a stop...
  • 1 2
 Rumour has it that if you jump high enough you can clear the paywall
  • 62 16
 Dude, I ride my bike so I can get away from all of the zombies staring at their screens. Cut this crap.
  • 65 22
 Then why don't you go ride your bike instead of taking your time to leave a comment like this on your screen.
  • 21 8
 That's why you ride? That's a terrible reason.
  • 4 6
 I have VR now and soon we will not need our bodies anymore. It super scary. I think I heard over 1 million Japanese don't leave there home ever. These electronics are so addicting. But these technologies also created a lot of work with unemployment in the 50-60's being 40% in India and China to now 10%-15% or so. More and more people will be less interested in going outside.
  • 2 1
 @justinfoil: it's one of them. Each of us have them.
  • 1 2
 @rjlpb: If I could go riding I would.
  • 6 0
 Maybe just dont download the app then and let others decide for themselves?
  • 3 0
 @Rider656: sooner the better - more space for the rest of us.
  • 1 0
 @justinfoil: I can think of worse reasons, terrible? Maybe a little much
  • 2 0
 @Rider656: well y’all have fun with that, more free space outside for the rest of us yippee haha
  • 1 1
 @ybsurf: did I say I was going to stop others from doing whatever they want? Just stating my view.
  • 1 1
 @mkotowski1: yes, terrible. There are many ways to avoid people. Ride for yourself, not others. If you're only riding because of what others are doing, you're doing it wrong.
  • 40 1
 If you read the article carefully, you can actually see point where Levy's soul leaves his body as he struggles to write 500 words on this topic.
  • 38 2
 Made it to 529 Smile
  • 6 0
 @mikelevy: Levy you're my hero
  • 5 0
 @mikelevy: But what level are you up to on Candy Crush? That's the real question.
  • 8 0
 If you subscribe to Outdoor+ they’re making him write 600 word articles
  • 2 0
 @derekbnorakim: sold, if there is a low cost tier where kazimer gets to ride all the bikes while Levy has to do bureaucratic bullcrap, I'll sign up for the family plan!
  • 16 0
 Sounded pretty useful until that last part...
I still have a lot to dial in with my jumping technique so the metrics showing me when I got it right vs recording myself with a cell phone or gopro to try to see what I did right or wrong sound promising.. but I cannot think of one place that I could safely mount my phone onto my bike where it wouldn't get smashed or be in the way. Thiiiiiiiis close to being cool, thiiiis close *holds index finger and thumb apart approximately the width of a cellphone
  • 3 1
 If you mount like this (mounting demo video below), its pretty hard to break a phone. My phone, and the phones of over folks I ride with, have survived a couple crashes mounted like this. How many dings do you have in your carbon or aluminum in that spot?

Mounting demo: youtu.be/yGXIEdxHFbE

This phone survived: youtu.be/ePazm-TSIoI
  • 1 0
 I hear you. I wonder if it might not be worth it to buy one of those cheap pre-paid Android phones for something like this? You wouldn't need to activate a cellular data connection, right? I think things like WiFi, GPS, and Bluetooth work on those things out of the box.

As for me, I would consider buying a burner phone to do this, but then I'd be lazy and end up strapping my nice-ish phone on there and promptly wrecking it like the doofus I am.
  • 4 0
 @JakeEPooh: "No, officer, I'm not a dealer. That's for my bike."
  • 13 0
 This would be ok if they didn’t ask you to mount your phone to your bike.
  • 6 1
 $5 for a phone accelerometer

www.aliexpress.com/item/32633047195.html

probably another $5 for a bluetooth chip, $5 to put it together with a battery. Make it the size of a 5-stack of quarters, strap to your bike, sell for $50. Better business model, if you ask me (of course two year lead times for anything coming out of china nowadays)
  • 5 0
 @hamncheez: Never stop dreaming!
  • 4 0
 The quad lock moto mount is legit.
  • 2 0
 @hIDesert:
F3 cycling has magnetic mount that is nicer than the quadlock.
Also, Garmin edge 130 Plus has this hang time feature in its mtb metrics, plus jump distance,flow and trail grit metrics.
  • 2 0
 @hamncheez: Sounds like the Shredmate, which I've been running for a couple of years now and works pretty well. I once achieved about Mach 11 but otherwise it's been pretty reliable, only problem is that you cant export the data to a new phone (or anywhere else) and it doesn't seem to be getting much love anymore
www.shredmate.co.uk
  • 1 0
 @G-Sport: I remember hearing about this, but completely forgot! I want one now.

What do you mean "you cant export the data to a new phone" though?
  • 2 0
 @hamncheez: All your ride data lives on the phone. You can share with Strava (which seems to work well, has your distances, speeds, climbs, section times etc) but this only transfers the positional data and doesn't include the accelerations or jump times. So whenever you change your phone ALL app data is lost. Contacted them about being able to port it on but they said that's not supported yet.
Not a huge problem for me as I only briefly look at the data after a ride and then share it with Strava for long-term distance etc goals, but is a slight shame.
  • 11 0
 So instead of some tw@t screaming “Strava!” as they come blasting down the trail, are we gunna hear “Hangtime!” instead?
  • 3 1
 Only if you're standing on a jump or landing, in which case something is getting yelled anyway, and "hangtime" is way nicer than most things that might be yelled.
  • 4 1
 @justinfoil: could be awks standing trail side taking a whizz.
Tinder profile reads; ”I thought mine was average at best, but I’ve been called hang time now”
  • 11 0
 mat macduffs jump stats gonna be real weird
  • 5 0
 Be more interested in an app that measures the distance of my skids to be honest, though I wouldn't be opposed to a multiplier being applied for time in the air immediately prior to the beginning of the skid.
  • 1 0
 Is it using the phone's accelerometer or looking inside your underpants to measure those skids?
  • 1 0
 @dsut4392: the more data points the merrier...
  • 5 2
 Very cool. We did something like this using the accelerometer in a data logger, then synced it up with POV video. This is great because everyone is already riding with their phone, and the UI looks awesome. I love seeing innovations in the bike industry, and am always happy when Pinkbike publishes this kind of content. I'm sure their email list has [deservingly] just exploded.
  • 2 1
 Love the idea of the selfie synced up with the data. Might have to give that a try.
  • 3 0
 I always know when I case/overshoot without using an app. Those are the most important metrics to me by a long shot (pun a little intended). If this costs more than 1 cent, I am out.
  • 2 0
 It costs less than 1 cent. Are you in?
  • 1 0
 @GZMS: Well I will be damned. Guess I am still out though for the most part. Could be fun for some party laps with riding buddies for a little while, but I cant say I think it is the worth using for any extended period of time.
  • 1 0
 @DKlassen8: i’d try it out.. if i had any jump skills :/
  • 1 1
 Yea I don’t get the idea of a completion here. Every jump is basically built for a certain amount of hang time. The take off, length, and landing will determine the range of hang time you can get on any jump. Not someone’s ability.
  • 2 0
 @sino428: I guess that means my grandma can jump as high as you. Ill let her know.
  • 1 0
 @rjlpb: If your grandma can clear the jump and hit the sweet spot of the landing then yes, she likely can jump as high as me.
  • 9 5
 Since when does Pinkbike stop stating “Press Release” at the top of their press release posts?
  • 6 1
 It's not a press release Wink It's just a quick look at an interesting (and free) app.
  • 10 5
 dear god kill it with fire. Strava too.
  • 5 0
 KOH, the new achievement category.
  • 1 0
 Totally understand all the negative comments on this - no I don't think jumps need to be measured, no I don't want my phone attached to my bike to multiply the cost of my crashes.

Having recognized that, I do think there is potential value in the cornering data. Interesting to have an option out there to measure progression in cornering skills for those of us without a coach that still want to figure out how to turn a bike better...would like to see the iteration where a $1000 piece of tech doesn't need to be strapped haphazardly onto my bike so I could actually benefit from this.
  • 1 0
 This is probably great for figuring out (or for your social media friends) where your phone fell of the bike-mount, how many and how big hits it took and where it is now (so whether it is even worth bothering to retrieve it). But I thought GPS wasn't all that accurate in the hills. I can imagine (for those instances where you didn't lose the phone) that you'd end arguing with the app whether or not you properly caught the backside of the jump and whether you gained or lost speed through a corner. A small camera probably does a better job (if the videofile is properly timestamped and you're also tracking speed and location through another device).
  • 1 0
 And then you break your camera stabilizer because you have your cellphone strapped on to your paint shaker of a bike. It's a well known issue in the adventure motorcycle world and it's the reason why people use basic rugged cellphones as GOS, not ones equipped with gyro tech.
  • 1 0
 Meant GPS and accelerometer not gyro
  • 1 1
 Mike, I only found this article because I happened to be searching for your articles. When I just scroll down through the headlines this one doesn't show up in my list, have I messed up a setting somewhere? The only content I've blocked is e-MTB stuff.
  • 1 0
 Or, maybe I'm an idiot who just missed it the first few times I tried to look for it? I guess there's a slim chance it's user error on my part, not a magical computer gremlin.
  • 5 1
 Hurry up with that paywall
  • 2 0
 Great, now I need 2 phones. One to measure MY hangtime and one to measure the bike's.

Completely unrelated, but does it measure "tumble time"?
  • 1 0
 “…with MTB Hangtime, you'll need to make sure [your phone is] attached to your bike…”

The kangaroo roots of the term “Joey” are made clear in this case!
  • 2 0
 Garmin has this function.
  • 4 1
 Which IME, is wildly inaccurate. Lost count of the number of times I rolled over a crack in pavement while *getting* to a trailhead and it beeps at me, says "Nice Jump!" and tells me I just jumped 6'. WTF, Garmin?

More recently, I noticed that it's claiming that the jumps I hit at my local trails where I steer around a lot of the bigger jumps ('cause, big giant hole and no table), are bigger than anything I hit during my last bike-park trip where I'm a lot less conservative, 'cause I'm not worried about major bodily injury if I don't clear a table, and they have a lot better built jumps where I'm almost certainly going bigger than the jank hits in the local hills.

If I had a sacrificial phone it'd be interesting to mount it to my bike and compare Garmin stats to this app, but I'm sure the first time out with this app and my phone mounted to my bike I'd crash horribly and destroy it.

Already destroyed my Apple Watch in a crash (Pro-tip: put guard on it, or flip it to the underside of your wrist if you're riding with an Apple Watch.). I'm in no hurry to sacrifice more expensive Apple tech to the trail gods.
  • 1 1
 @SoCalTrev: Would love to see the comparison. Im pretty sure its going to make some folks at Garmin cry.
  • 1 0
 @SoCalTrev: yeah it became super sensitive after some software update, but then it got fixed again
  • 1 0
 once they break out the tape measure, it's time to leave the trails. let someone else drive them to the hospital
  • 1 0
 My bike gets more hangtime without me on it. I don't need to validate that sad fact to others....wait I just did.
  • 1 0
 This may make friday fails more see a jump to new heights...
  • 1 0
 Another way to f myself up
  • 1 0
 What do they do with the user data they are collecting?
  • 7 0
 All your data are belong to us.
  • 1 0
 Improve your experience.
  • 1 0
 don't be mad at the app, be mad at yourself because you can't jump.
  • 1 0
 
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