Honestly, I couldn't give a shit less about competitions, of any sort. Who cares how you compare against some other person. For me, riding is about pushing myself and creating something beautiful through my interaction with the bike and the trail. I don't need anyone else to help me do it. I'm glad Brandon seems to feel the same way.
And that, unlike me, he's actually good at it.
@monsterville "Who cares how you compare against some other person." - A lot of people do, that's how they push themselves. So what? Focus on your way, don't hate on others.
@monsterville: I’m with you in that one. Probably just as well too, I’d imagine his runs are a commentator’s nightmare - half of the tricks he throws down haven’t even been named yet!
I respect competitions more than film projects. It's one thing to land a trick 1 in 10 tries and stick it in an edit. It's a whole new level to stick every trick in an entire run when it counts.
@ChrisNJ: You don’t have to compete with others to excel at what you do. Danny MacAskill is a good example, as well as the countless athletes, artists, inventors, etc. who never get recognized for their work.
@chriskneeland: irrelevant. This is not how humans think on the internet. The author of the first comment presented to a very romantic idea that we humans do not need to compete to achieve beautiful things. It is nothing new off course but males tens to not think this way as we are generally biased towards competition. It spoke to anima part of male psyche unleashing the potential for love and empathy. If caught in the romantic mode it makes males feel vulnerable and thus they become aggressive as they run for their arms.
@WAKIdesigns: Meh. Art vs. competition. Expression vs. performance. It's the eternal argument. The consistency and precision of competition can be an art in and of itself. No need to discount it.
@chriskneeland: the subject is irrelevant. Using propping system is not a rational activity, it is a way of channeling repressed insecurities related to social norms and social acceptance. Brandon Semenuk Can ride the bike the way he does because he did certain things and now some bloke on the internet thinks he discovered key to his success. That is being “chilled out” and doing “his thing”. And many can relate to it. Because they are chillin and don’t do much sht. Except Brandon obviously spent as much time riding and practicing as some of our grandfathers did mining for coal. But that is not as an attractive concept as sitting, doing nothing and coming up with the concepts for reaching the meaning of life.
I’m gonna chime in on this because I’m stupid. Dude is still competing, he’s just competing with “edits”. And he definitely seems to be in a league of his own. As far as the original post goes, it is entirely possible that the most talented guitar player in the world is some dude who sits on his porch and blasts out the most technical and beautiful music out there to nobody but the crickets, but this is not what Semenuk is doing. Dude is recording albums one track at a time. I don’t even care about this style of riding anymore. My tricking days are done. But I will still watch everything he puts out there. Unbelievable talent. People are focusing in on where And when he puts himself out there instead of how. Just enjoy it. It’s genius on a bike.
@Garrathustra: If by league of his own, you mean the only guy making cute internet videos while slopestyle events progress to the next level. Not saying you have to like one over the other. Different strokes for different folks.
@chriskneeland: maybe he realized there is more to the art of what he does than how many times you can spin around in a circle, and felt he wouldn’t be justly rewarded in competition for that sort of riding
This is still a form of competition: He's trying to make the most aesthetically pleasing, over the top, beautiful, stylish, technical, boundary pushing video of mt biking ever made, and pretty much winning at it. Right?
@WAKIdesigns: My man, what kind of drugs are you doing today? Your commentary here is lacking it’s usual level of bizarre cleverness and wit. It’s both acerbic and sardonic but without your uncannily brilliant delivery.
@chriskneeland: Nobody can do what he's doing, the way he does it, on this edit, and the others, which aren't comp settings. Your criticism is ridiculous.
@shredright: The top ten riders in the Fox US Open of slopestyle could do this. That's my point. If people think this is the pinnacle of the sport, they're not paying attention. It's a shame.
@chriskneeland: it is irrelevant. He is judged by the whole picture, styling, building, filming. It all comes together. US Open slopestyle course does not look like that. Go try filming an arty, sense stimulating video with jumps from US Open SS. Yeah you maybe could. But it is not the point.
Nobody else does sht like that. That riding, such vibe to motion picture. This particular Raw 100 may not involve the sickest tricks, I actually think v3 one had the sickest moves so far. V2 had very little ticking in it, but it was incredible to watch with what precision he rides stuff.
And mark my words, Slope Style will take a bite at it’s tail soon. There’s some big monsters like Fest Series taking a bite at the Wow Factor. We have a dude in town doing backflip with double tailwhip and tripple tailwhip, it starts to look ridiculous. It is this far from being, oh quadruple barspin 360/backflip - really? Who cares buddy, only a few conneseurs, and conneseurs are fine as long as they don’t go ahead and crap on folks who aren’t, removing themselves to a rather lonely plane. Like with whip off. Who cares if you did 100 or 75 degrees? It has to look stylish and if it looks excellent at 60 degrees it’s great!
@WAKIdesigns: Says more about the production crew than the rider. Like I said, the consistencyin, and level of, competition in SS today is more impressive.
@chriskneeland: So you basically expect him to trump contest tricks when making a video? And interaction crew-rider is irrelevant? It’s like saying: who gets impressed by Bernard Kerrs edits when Amaury Pieron is faster? I mean fine, you can have your own standards, nobody is asking you to change them.
@WAKIdesigns: Yeah, you have 100 tries to do something. Competitors have one. If competitors are throwing down heavier tricks on one run, while you're throwing tail whips off a weird rock then it's not that impressive, no matter how many angles or color graded it is.
Maybe its just me, but the buzzing was distracting to the point of annoying by the end.
I think a quiet hub would be better to focus on the riding and tire shredding.
look how many comments below about the hub.
@dark-o: it’s post production audio. That’s not the real sound of the bike or dirt. It’s manufactured later in a studio to replicate what it might sound like. It allows them tightly control the audio experience and accent things in a way that’s simply not possible with a standard mic setup.
Nearly all of Semenuks vids have used this for quite a while now.
@HurricaneCycles: I'm not saying the don't do a ton of post production audio, but I actually think they tightly mic the bike vs add in all the foley sounds after the fact. Could be wrong...
@DDoc: What an amazing video, but agree with you about the buzz. I gave up my loud freehub 2 years ago for a silent one and life is just better without an unnecessary noise in the woods.
@merlin33: I have wanted to give up my loud free hub. However I just think back to the one time I stopped pedaling up a hill in Montana, and the sound of the free hub caused a bear about thirty feet away just on the other side of some trees to bolt down the hill. I thank if for that, and consider it my wake-up call to the critters I would rather see running than licking their chops.
@plyawn: I do t remember which one it was but they specifically talked about this aspect of Semenuks films with o e of the releases relatively recently. It was just to highlight how much effort goes into these films. It’s expensive to hire an audio engineer for these types of things. The the effect is very obvious to anyone watching.
Not sure why the down votes. This is how ALL Hollywood movies are done. You can get a degree in the stuff even!
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with this and I thoroughly enjoy the effect they create by using this method. I just want to shed a little light For those who think his hub actually THAT loud. It’s not.
@HurricaneCycles: So true but this time they've screwed up and turned post processing up to 11 and made it obnoxious and distracting and at points even wrong and misleading. Pitch and dopplereffect doesn't sync to drops, landings and accelerations or the panning of shots. Sometimes less is more and they know this but somebody was pro bees....
@Aikow: This is a valid reason. I do use a Timber Mountain bike bell on most descents. It serves many purposes, and certainly alerting wildlife to my presence is one.
Wait, so that jump at the end is the same one he nearly had a massive wipeout on a while back, on a DH bike, no tricks. Now he's hitting it on a dirt jump bike with one brake and a tail whip thrown in...? Seriously WTF
Question for the people that voted for someone else in the most stylish rider poll last week - on a scale of "got caught with your hand down your pants" to Trumps wife - exactly how embarrassed are you?
@TheR: amen. funny when average joes get all "meh" on semenuk. while style is inarguably subjective, if the vast, overwhelming majority of the globe agrees on the keeper of the steeze, and you don't recognize it... then you're just blind, bitter, or a troll.
I'd say the only thing that detracts from his style is that he's throwing such insane tricks. You look at something like a Thomas Vanderham table top and it's 100% style. Rogatkin is close to 100% degree of difficulty on the tricks. Semenuk is like 98% of each (for a total of 196% - he's that good)
@plyawn: amen. I won't say there aren't dozens of other talent or technically impressive pro riders out there, but who else has effortless style and smooth finese like Semenuk? Its not even a competition. I always love watching Aggy, Vinny T, Doerfling, Lacondeguy ride for their style, every single video without question, you know its gonna be sick... but still... Semenuk man, got that little bit extra that's not tangible. He deserves his crown.
I did vote for somebody else and my favorite style rider will always be Thomas Genon (who wasn't even on the options list) but that does not mean I don't appreciate Semenuke's style. He is better than Genon. He is by modern standardas the best. I can see that. But if I could ride like anybody, I'd like to ride like Genon. It's a personal preference.
@TheR: I’d like to see simple stylish riding. I’m not interested in the tricks. I’d like to see him shred a trail bike. Give the flip whips a break and let’s see some steeze.
@thenotoriousmic: So go watch any number of his other edits of him on his Dh and trail bike? That is why Semeneuk is the style king; he can do it on any bike. I'm glad we get to enjoy his talent across all types of bikes.
@plyawn: I agree and I'd add that he just makes it look so easy. He doesn't look like he's trying real hard or on the edge of losing it. His manual's are so crisp, he almost looks bored when not flying through the air. Just an unreal talent.
@Satanslittlehelper: i9 hydra is 270 claimed, Onyx vesper is 369g claimed. Profile elite is 365 claimed. *All thru axle singlespeed variety. Heavier than what’s on his bike by 100g, pretty sure people have done plenty of tailwhips on profile elites, so safe to say it can be done on a vesper of the almost identical weight....
I love watching Semenuk, those cranked 3's and combo tricks - ridiculous. If I'm honest though, I don't really get the point of going to a zone like this and buffing the shit out of it until it's as smooth as wood. Makes a nice backdrop for the steeze I suppose.
I guess it makes it more interesting? Otherwise, he would film every video in the same spot. Just build, ride, film, plow, repeat. It wasn't quite as groomed looking as Rheeders Return to Earth seggy though! Plus, Utah has unique natural features and flow (case to nose manny to bar on that rock) that make it super cool.
Dislike, because he stole the tricks from Pumped BMX ????
But in all seriousness - this is by far my favorite of the Revel Co Videos - I think this one is the most insane and the more I think about it, the more amazed I am. A freeride setting in Utah on a slopestyle bike with a course, that is unlike anything I've ever seen - because it not only combines slopestyle and freeride BUT ALSO BMX! The same goes for the tricks: I mean I don't have come here to circlejerk here about Brandon's pretty much flawless style - but when we're talking Toboggan Pocket Airs on a slopestyle bike?! IN THE DESERT?!! Manuals with a tailwhip out? This is like a full on BMX edit - just look up any of the Vans BMX Pro Cups and street edit of the last... maybe two years?
Oh - and please tell me this isn't the gap from Revel in the Chaos that he just whipped?!
Hands down, this is one of the best mountain bike videos ever made in my opinion; I wasn't too amazed by the last couple of Revel Co edits - not that they were bad, just not quite as surprising as this one. This one absolutely blows my mind.
The skills on display are unbelievable and it is nuts that this level of riding can be expected as standard for him. I will admit that I had to mute it and rewatch it because all I could think about was how much it sounds like a nitro RC car.
i cant breathe anymore...just to stoked...what the hell just happened....there is no need to say anything about this Video. It is out of competition...big respect to Schremdon Bremenuk.
@t1000: I'm a pickles on a burger kind of guy. I think they're necessary. But, it seems to be an "American" thing. Also, I like noisy hubs.
And while we're talking about pickles: Dill, half sour or full sours only. Preferably fermented. They can even be super-garlicky or spicy. I'll eat them straight outta the jar, too. But, none of this sweet pickle or bread 'n butter crap.
@Zhehan: I'm an American and to me, pickles are gross! When I'm selling my art at the festivals/markets people walk by with those pickle-on-a-stick and I have to look away. Kissing someone that eats pickles is like kissing a smoker---won't do it! With that said...when I do get a Chick-fil-a sandwich the only thing they put on it is...a pickle! So, I immediately toss the wretched little chip, but I am left with, as the comedian Hannibal Buress calls it...the "essence of the pickle"...that flavor juice that seeped into the bread, and upon biting into that section it is an extra pop in taste that I enjoy. It's all about subtlety for me I suppose....and I do prefer less noisy hubs too
It’s not the actual hubs making that sound. The audio is produced in a sound lab after the shoot so they can a create an audio experience separate from the visual.
That being said they may well have used the same hub Brandon uses to create that sound.
At each time I watch a raw100 from semenuk, or any edit from him, I'm just impressed on the way he can push himself always further, even while being at the top of the sport. How can you even manage to make always crazier things?
Plus, I love how he doesn't do complex tricks at each obstacles, but sometimes just does something really smooth in a place you wouldn't think it is possible, such as his nose-bonks 180 in the raw 100 v4 or such stuff.
I feel like Brandon's riding is so highly accomplished, that performing skillful aerial bicycle tricks become mundane task, it's like he's always winning.
|Professional; adjective: A person engaged in a specific activity for incrementally increasing difficulty, that they end up performing at the highest of standards.
Love the riding style of Brandon, met him once at Whistler and was blown away by how accommodating he was with the fans too, the guy seems almost shy. If the hub noise bugs you, there's a mute button for the video so give that a crack!
Well, he's won it twice and he doesn't do competitions much any more. And, at this point, what does he have to prove? I really enjoy the art he's creating these days more anyway...
ooooohhhh myyy god!! its not often a video makes me shout out loud. but hoollyyy shit! that no hander to manual on the whale tale type rock and tailwhip off looks soooo damn hard. Then that double lander rock hop thing was pretty fucking epic!.. EMBRACE THE STOKE. Ride on Brandon!
I bet the government has shut down this area, otherwise man will know superhumans do exist and that he rode I-9 hubs in the desert somehow flying from rock to rock.
I saw this and thought “hm... another Brandon semenuk video?” Then I remembered all the other ones I’ve seen and decided to click.... again, blown away by his skill and fluidity. Such a clean rider. Glad I clicked.
Brandon Semenuk has the ultimate bike job!!! Nothing but where to ride, and how to ride it to it's maximum, all while continuously delivering yet another round of razor sharp riding. Thank you!
Watched it again, Jesus that last trick, not a lot of room for error there... as in absolutely no room for ever whatsoever, get that even slightly wrong and you’re in a world of pain. Insane.
It's a shame that contests don't have features built in a way that can be ridden as creatively like this... Modern day slopestyle contests are designed for ariel banger after banger with different variation of features to do them on. I really wish they had more interesting and techy features like back in the 2008-2011 era of slopestyle.
I think they discussed this during Rampage at one point? It's something I'm thinking about, too. I'm sure they're destroying a lot of desert flora unfortunately, which is super terrible, but the only "benefit" is that with the highly erosive nature of that area, most of the features will be weathered away pretty quickly during monsoon season.
This is mind-blowingly good, though it reinforces what the 'most stylish rider poll' got me thinking. Semenuk is an amazing rider, and deserves all the accolades he receives, but the guy has zero style. It's like watching a robot throw technically perfect tricks one after another, cramming as many as possible into one line. It makes me think of playing Tony hawk 2 when you had the amplitude to cram like 2million points into a single jump. His riding is perfect, but I think perfection comes with the absence of style, as style is in the off axis, the slight exaggerations. I think style comes from the intentional imperfections.
Here is the dictionary definition of style, the way it is used in MTB and other similar activities: "A distinctive manner of expression. Beauty, grace, or ease of manner or technique." Here are some synonyms: flair, grace, poise, polish, sophistication, finesse, panache...
With the super gnarly tricks (cork 7 bars etc), I would argue there is only so much you can do to put style on top of just landing the trick as cleanly as possible. Sure, guys like Semenuk, Rheeder, etc pull a straight cork 7 a lot nicer and smoother than someone like Rogatjkin (which IS what separates style from just doing it), but when it comes to more "basic" tricks, like the 1 hand table, or his classic 3 tables, scrubs/tire slides over the dirt boobs and moto whips, you can really see when someone has style and someone doesn't. As BiNARY said, style is defined by how easy you make something look, or adding a bit of flair (see that double ET off the drop and the way he moves the bike rather than forcible just pedalling the cranks twice). If you can't see that someone who lands whips perfectly straight after being out at 90+ degrees (R-Dog, Semenuk, Kade etc) as being stylish, then visit an optometrist.
I wonder what Utah would look like if mountain bikers didn't keep ripping the shit out of it and putting big wide pavement all through it constantly! years and years of natural erosion and moulding by nature just hacked over with digging equipment! Are there not protection laws against such things? I can't watch rampage anymore as it just doesn't sit right the amount of damage that's done to the landscape in order for a weekend of glory! And because of rampage every tom, dick n harry goes out there to make a video and wants to find 'their own line' and spends a week digging the shit out the place as well!
Your feelings are understandable but you should know that much of Utah's unique landscape like this is heavily protected and typically the edits and competitions are done on private property. Believe it or not, there's enough of this sort of terrain around Utah that some of it is turned over to bikes and moto. I guess I'm just saying there's a lot of protected terrain in Utah. You could argue against any of this building, but at some point then you'd have to argue against any trail building at all, eh? Not sure where to draw the line.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKFCEGXTpgU
Nobody else does sht like that. That riding, such vibe to motion picture. This particular Raw 100 may not involve the sickest tricks, I actually think v3 one had the sickest moves so far. V2 had very little ticking in it, but it was incredible to watch with what precision he rides stuff.
And mark my words, Slope Style will take a bite at it’s tail soon. There’s some big monsters like Fest Series taking a bite at the Wow Factor. We have a dude in town doing backflip with double tailwhip and tripple tailwhip, it starts to look ridiculous. It is this far from being, oh quadruple barspin 360/backflip - really? Who cares buddy, only a few conneseurs, and conneseurs are fine as long as they don’t go ahead and crap on folks who aren’t, removing themselves to a rather lonely plane. Like with whip off. Who cares if you did 100 or 75 degrees? It has to look stylish and if it looks excellent at 60 degrees it’s great!
"Something is missing here.. "
"What if we could add bees...?"
"I think it's a great idea"
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Nearly all of Semenuks vids have used this for quite a while now.
Not sure why the down votes. This is how ALL Hollywood movies are done. You can get a degree in the stuff even!
Kieth White Audio has done the post production audio for MOST of your favorite bike films. Including all the RAW100 segments.
www.keithwhiteaudio.com
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with this and I thoroughly enjoy the effect they create by using this method. I just want to shed a little light For those who think his hub actually THAT loud. It’s not.
So true but this time they've screwed up and turned post processing up to 11 and made it obnoxious and distracting and at points even wrong and misleading. Pitch and dopplereffect doesn't sync to drops, landings and accelerations or the panning of shots. Sometimes less is more and they know this but somebody was pro bees....
www.pinkbike.com/news/must-watch-brandon-semenuk-utah-overshoot-2015.html
i9 hydra is 270 claimed, Onyx vesper is 369g claimed. Profile elite is 365 claimed.
*All thru axle singlespeed variety.
Heavier than what’s on his bike by 100g, pretty sure people have done plenty of tailwhips on profile elites, so safe to say it can be done on a vesper of the almost identical weight....
Check at 2:00
That was insane
But in all seriousness - this is by far my favorite of the Revel Co Videos - I think this one is the most insane and the more I think about it, the more amazed I am. A freeride setting in Utah on a slopestyle bike with a course, that is unlike anything I've ever seen - because it not only combines slopestyle and freeride BUT ALSO BMX! The same goes for the tricks: I mean I don't have come here to circlejerk here about Brandon's pretty much flawless style - but when we're talking Toboggan Pocket Airs on a slopestyle bike?! IN THE DESERT?!! Manuals with a tailwhip out?
This is like a full on BMX edit - just look up any of the Vans BMX Pro Cups and street edit of the last... maybe two years?
Oh - and please tell me this isn't the gap from Revel in the Chaos that he just whipped?!
Hands down, this is one of the best mountain bike videos ever made in my opinion; I wasn't too amazed by the last couple of Revel Co edits - not that they were bad, just not quite as surprising as this one. This one absolutely blows my mind.
And while we're talking about pickles: Dill, half sour or full sours only. Preferably fermented. They can even be super-garlicky or spicy. I'll eat them straight outta the jar, too. But, none of this sweet pickle or bread 'n butter crap.
But what’s with swarm of angry wasps following him around?
That being said they may well have used the same hub Brandon uses to create that sound.
Plus, I love how he doesn't do complex tricks at each obstacles, but sometimes just does something really smooth in a place you wouldn't think it is possible, such as his nose-bonks 180 in the raw 100 v4 or such stuff.
Smoothest rider in the history for sure.
|Professional; adjective: A person engaged in a specific activity for incrementally increasing difficulty, that they end up performing at the highest of standards.
I wonder if he's done this to qualify for Rampage again? I see he's not on the list of pre-qualified riders www.redbull.com/us-en/events/rampage/rampage-riders-2019
(watches again...)
WTF!
Then I remembered all the other ones I’ve seen and decided to click.... again, blown away by his skill and fluidity. Such a clean rider.
Glad I clicked.
HOW?!?!?!
Video was sick!
New sponsor, haha
zero style?
Are there not protection laws against such things? I can't watch rampage anymore as it just doesn't sit right the amount of damage that's done to the landscape in order for a weekend of glory! And because of rampage every tom, dick n harry goes out there to make a video and wants to find 'their own line' and spends a week digging the shit out the place as well!