Neko Mulally's YT Tues - Bike Check

Apr 27, 2018
by Daniel Sapp  



bigquotesWe've only just seen the beginning...it's only the tip of the iceberg."Neko Mulally


We caught up with American Neko Mulally at home, fresh back from the first World Cup in Croatia. In addition to training for the race season, Neko has been hard at work building new trails and putting on some of the top American races at Windrock Bike Park, located a short distance from of Knoxville, TN. Windrock has become a North American training hub of sorts, with the likes of Luca Shaw, Dakotah Norton, Charlie Harrison, and Neko all spending ample time there this past winter, testing and dialing in their new bikes.

With five Americans in the top 15 at Lošinj, it's obviously paying off, and Neko couldn't be more stoked. As much as he's happy about the recent results, he's more excited about what there is to build on, and the opportunity that Windrock and a quality American race series can present for the younger up and coming racers. Thoughts on the future American racing? Neko says, "We've only just seen the beginning...it's only the tip of the iceberg."

With the start of a new year, YT has unveiled the newest edition of their Tues DH bike. There are several changes and tweaks including updated geometry and an all carbon rear end, making the bike lighter and as Neko put it, "more race oriented" than before. He isn't very concerned about the weight, and although it's light at 35.15 lb, his bike is still set up to confidently handle the abuse that World Cup racing inevitably produces.
Neko Mulally s YT TUES
Neko Mulally // The YT Mob
Age: 25
Hometown: Brevard, NC
Height: (6'0")
Weight: (185 lb.)
Instagram: @nekomulally
Additional Sponsors: Fox, Oskar Blues, Afton Shoes, Handup Gloves, Adidas Eyewear

Coming from the previous frame, there weren't a lot of changes that needed to be made for Neko in terms of set up. He's running an XL with Fox suspension, E Thirteen wheels, and Flat Tire Defender inserts in Onza tires. Neko is especially happy about the inserts, especially the way that they help deaden vibrations. He likens it to making the bike's suspension even better.

Check out more about Neko's bike setup below.

Neko Mulally s YT TUES
Neko's YT TUES. 35.15lb and built to take a beating.

Neko Mulally s YT TUES
Can a bike be too stiff? Sure; with a full carbon frame and wheels along with a Fox 40 fork, Neko prefers to run spoke tension a little lower than normal. He also runs alloy bars and cranks which allows the bike to a little more absorbent in the rough stuff.
YT TUES Details
Frame: YT Tues
Shock: Fox Float X2
Fork: Fox 40 (203mm travel)
Wheels: E Thirteen LG1 Race Carbon (27.5")
Tires: Onza Aquila with FTD Inserts - 23 psi front, 30 psi rear
Drivetrain: eThirteen cranks - 34t chainring, E Thirteen chainguide and cassette; SRAM shifting, HT Pedals
Brakes: TRP
Cockpit: Renthal bars - 800mm, 40mm rise; Renthal stem - 50mm length, 0 rise
Size: XL
Weight: 35.15 lb - verified
More info: yt-industries.com

Neko Mulally s YT TUES
Neko Mulally s YT TUES
82psi and 6 tokens in the fork, 170psi and 5 spacers in the shock.

Neko Mulally s YT TUES
Neko Mulally s YT TUES
E Thirteen wheels and cassette.

Neko Mulally s YT TUES
Neko Mulally s YT TUES
Custom touches...Works Components made custom +6 headsets for Neko and the rest of the YT team. For the bottom bracket, Neko had been running Kogel bearings that he bought himself all last season. A representative from the company approached the team at a race and a sponsorship match was made. Now Kogel provides the team with ceramic BB and hub bearings.

Neko Mulally s YT TUES
Neko Mulally s YT TUES
Neko is a huge fan of TRP's G-Spec Quadiem brakes. He says they're easily the best brakes he's ever ridden and one of the best features of the bike. "Knowing that the brakes are consistent and going to stop you gives you confidence to go faster as much as anything else," he says.

Neko Mulally s YT TUES
While a lot of people are running shorter and shorter stems, Neko has stuck with a 50mm length. He says that the longer stem gives him a better weight distribution on the bike.


Mentions: @YTIndustries



156 Comments

  • 78 9
 Pretty crazy that Jared Graves just posted on Instagram that his new Stumpjumper (with coil shock and fork) weighs the same 35lbs as this thing.With such improvements carbon manufacturing and design at YT, it makes you wonder how light the next version of the Jeffsy may be.

It's also rad that so many American racers are running more American parts companies.
  • 22 1
 And it's 35.15 lbs in size XL :O
  • 6 1
 @shorelocal: must be the non 35mm Fatbar and stem.
  • 81 25
 @PHeller - really? So you believe there is some magic increase in carbon fiber layup technology at YT? Listen I like the brand and I don’t want to ruin it for anyone. But most of the weight of the bike come from components. Which YT has little if any influence over how light/ heavy they are. So they have 1lbs of frame weight to play with. And it’s a gamble, should we aim at selling more by the virtue of weight and drain the risk in warranty replacement, or shall we aim for less replacements and save money this way.

I am piece of sht troll, what do I know, but I am personally less than impressed with average companies shifting around this 0.5kg of frame weight from 3.2ish to 2.7ish for DH and 2.2 and 2.8 for Enduro bikes in hope that if they go to the lower spectrum potential buyers will think it comes from them finding tech that makes super light frames and soon will be used to manufacture dark matter and send Tesla Model 3 to Alpha Centauri.
  • 7 4
 @WAKIdesigns: Good point Waki second time you did that right ?
  • 12 2
 I mean 29ers are just heavier simple as that
  • 7 3
 @WAKIdesigns: It's not so much impressive on YT's part for being that light as it is Specialized for building burly trail bikes. If that's what your into and it doesn't scare you (35lbs doesn't scare Graves), then more power to ya, but for that kind of weight I'll ride alloy bikes.
  • 10 6
 @PHeller: Jares Graves rides what works. Just works. It should be of no surprise to anyone that a difference between a modern enduro amd dh bikes comes to the weight of the fork. Because virtually everything but the fork is the same in terms of weight. Slim saving on a frame and 1kg on the fork. Same tyres, same wheels, same drivetrain, brakes, controls. You can always put air suspension and flimsy 1-ply tyres on enduro bike.
  • 6 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Not necessarily. Neko's Fox 40 weighs more than Jared's Ohlins fork (with coil), but Jared runs a dropper post which offsets the weight loss on Neko's Tuesday. I suspect that the Tuesday frame is probably pretty close in weight to the Stumpjumper. Is that good or bad? Again, depends who you ask.
  • 5 3
 @WAKIdesigns: lol Waki, as grouchy as ever, but 100% right.
  • 3 1
 @WAKIdesigns: it's not the bike that is heavy, as you said it's his spec. as he rides both coil fork and coil shock, they probably wight the same as the the fox suspension on the tues
then you have the crush core that he has installed
then there is a dropper post that weights about double as much as a normal carbon dh one, it not more
than you have all the tools that specs put's on it's bikes, so there is the diference. the stock bike probably weights 7 lbs more
  • 1 2
 @tiagomano: Flat Tire Defender not crush core!
  • 11 1
 @PHeller: too-es not tuesday
  • 2 4
 I thought weight didn’t matter? And those carbon rims? Neko must be a dentist on the side.
  • 10 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Hahaha. How many mechanicals have ruined races for Graves in the last 3 seasons? Every race he adds a pound to make sure the last thing that breaks doesn't break again. Pretty soon he'll be pulling the motor out of a Honda and just running up the hills with it.
  • 1 1
 @jm2e: Yeah but his mechanicals have been crazy flukes. Remember when his fork blew up at Crankzilla? Still won that race but still a total fluke. Dudes just got bad luck.
  • 3 0
 @WAKIdesigns: how many mechanicals has graves had in the last 3 years?
  • 3 12
flag bxxer-rider (Apr 27, 2018 at 18:36) (Below Threshold)
 It's heavy for what it is. Real heavy. My aluminium framed, coil sprung, 6ply dh tyre, triple walled aluminium rimed dh bike weighs the same as this yt, I'd say that's pretty poor on their part!
  • 2 2
 Graves' Frame has a bottle cage and SWAT besides the things that were mentioned already.
  • 7 0
 @bxxer-rider: pass dat crack pipe you dope.
  • 3 4
 @jm2e: @jordanh604 what are you saying? So he flatted quite a lot, should you suggest him that he should be running 1ply tyres? Is 28lbs bike a solution for his problems? Looking cool on “Weight game” forum thread for wankers throwing money out of the window? Graves bike is not the only Enduro bike on EWS weighing so much. The only thing he uses that is heavier than others is coil suspension.
  • 6 1
 @bxxer-rider: Your ancient "DH" bike probably has a tiny frame with a 370mm reach, 32mm fork stanctions, and a rear shock with the shaft stroke of a field mouse. Don't compare it to a modern bike with a frame twice as big. Oh yea, and yours weighs 40 lbs.
  • 2 5
 @rzalewski6: try a 2017 orange 324, marzocchi 380 r2c2 Ti, ccdb with Ti coil, hope tech pro4 hubs with hope dh rims, continental der kiaser projekt tyres (tubeless) m820 drivetrain. Hope V4 with braided hoses and 8" rotors.

So you know, clearly old hat. Totally not possible that it could have been built up with sensible component choices and proven reliable. Will admit having ti-springs.com as a good friend does help on the bolts and rear coil front.
  • 5 1
 @bxxer-rider: they use whatever works for them on DHWC circuit. Again, this is not a place for upper middle class wannabies with Volvos or Land Rovers building 12kg DH bikes with Super Gravity tyres. If I raced Enduro on my boutique carbon bike and could buy whatever I want it would easily weigh 33-34lbs. So sorry I see nothing strange with a DH World Cup racer adding 2lbs for the fork, and tyre insert, considering DH frame weight increase is offsetted with dropper post.
  • 1 8
flag makripper (Apr 28, 2018 at 2:22) (Below Threshold)
 @WAKIdesigns: the whole argument is invalid. Enduro bikes are made to last hours. DH bike, minutes. Also, my 2016 aluminum giant trance sx is 29 lbs and bombproof. Different machines, different applications. Dumb to compare them
  • 2 1
 @rzalewski6: my ancient 2016 glory advanced is 32 lbs. Then what
  • 2 1
 @makripper: Does it have similar components? Tire inserts? Similar sized frame? Weight with pedals? You have to compare apples to apples, it's not like your frame is really over 3 lbs lighter. Glory Advanced is a great bike. I was more shocked at the comment of an XL DH race bike with Flat Tire Defenders being 35 lbs as being "pretty poor on their part." Tire inserts alone weigh around 1.25 lbs.
  • 7 3
 @makripper: apart from the fact that DH bike will outlast enduro bike anytime anywhere. Stronger frame and fork, then more travel.
  • 4 0
 @makripper: and here i am thinking both were made for seasons.
  • 2 0
 @MX298: The "he" in Tiago's post refers to Graves, not Neko.
  • 1 0
 @mazze: for the average guy. Not a pro
  • 2 1
 @WAKIdesigns: i highly doubt that.
  • 1 1
 @rzalewski6: its pretty average and unless there is some massive break through in technology then we won't see weights change much more. Look up weights for a coil spring lyric vs a boxxer world cup. Enduro have inherently lighter frames but the bikes are built up to withstand DH like tracks or close but blind. Mistakes will be made
  • 1 0
 @shorelocal: which is too good to,be true. Have fun destroying stays.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: there's certainly a magical increase in customer service, frustration
  • 3 0
 its simple. the DH bike doesn't have a dropper post, has a much smaller cassette, shorter cranks, smaller derailleur, smaller wheels and tires, narrower tires and an most importantly air shock. Those are all things that could be done to the stumpjumper to make it 30 pounds.
  • 1 1
 @sevensixtwo: a sponsored dentist that gets free wheels maybe?
  • 1 0
 @jm2e: not really. he added a cushcore (curtis was the one who broke a rim though), thats pretty much it right? he's still running the same shift lever, the same grid casing tires....
  • 2 1
 @dtrotter: if he does run Grid then everything about his ounctures is clear because it is the worst 1.5 ply casing out there. When you get tyres of comparable type like Slaughter Grid/ Rock Razor SG/ Minion SS DD and grid weighs almost 100g less then you know something is cooking I punctured Grid through and through having Huck Norris in it, a friend punctured one last weeknd, lighter rider, little speed into a rock, same thing - big hole up top, to small Schwalbe Evo like cuts by the bead.
  • 2 3
 Remember, a DH bike, especially at a WC level is pretty much a 1 run bike... An EWS bike has to survive multiple stages of racing and they can't replace many key parts over the course of the race... But, it is impressive how light the DH bikes have gotten in recent years...
  • 1 1
 @WAKIdesigns: all I use is grid. From whistler to home trails. Zero issues. More issues with super gravity and side wall punctures
  • 4 0
 Can everyone stop yelling at each other please, I can't hear anyone saying it looks like a Session
  • 1 0
 DH bike has no droper post to account on the overall wheight...
  • 2 0
 Needs some Industry 9 wheels on that beast being from NC.
  • 2 0
 @splsce: And some Nox rims.
  • 2 0
 @sevensixtwo: What?? carbon wheels out of Knoxville? that's sweet, never heard of them.
  • 2 0
 @splsce: They’re great. I have a pair on I9 hubs. The Teocali 29er wheelset is 26mm and 1400ish grams, and only cost like 1300 bucks.
  • 37 2
 Forget the bike, I just want that Oskar Blues helmet
  • 35 0
 Forget the helmet, I want a few OB cold ones!
  • 3 1
 dope helmet
  • 4 1
 Grab some stickers and boom...There you go.
  • 6 0
 @NateMob:mmmmm...cold Dale's! off to the beer store...
  • 2 0
 @Fuuse: Beer helmet. A dope helmet would be Medicine Man or Snoop Dawgs sticky greens.
  • 2 1
 He changed from Bell to Fox helmet this year, didnt he?
  • 3 0
 And, Oskar Blues has it's own bike company, Reeb Cycles...
  • 29 0
 YT appears to be immune from the press-fit hate. Damn though, what a sick looking bike.
  • 37 0
 YT can do no wrong on Pinkbike. They are like the Pike and CCDB in 2014-15.
  • 5 3
 Why YT? Why use stupid press fit. You press out shit not old bb bearings altho they might be the same if the last is press fit
  • 8 7
 And oddly immune to Canadians crying about the red, white and blue color scheme. Maybe I haven't looked hard enough.
  • 3 1
 I had Kogel BB's before they were cool!
  • 7 6
 the Capra's pressfit BB was one of the top 3 reasons I excluded it from my new bike search last year.
  • 6 0
 @TheR: yeah, but the capra comes in Canadian colours. That makes up for it.
  • 8 0
 @TheRaven: True but to be fair, those are still both amazing products. Also, PF isn't what it was 3-5 years ago. I'm not certain as to why but I'm guessing it's a combination of crank manufacturers figuring out how to make BB's work with less than perfect tolerances (SRAM and Raceface have both changed their designs) and manufacturers making shells more precise. I've been creak free PF on my last 3 bikes...
  • 5 0
 @ryan83: All the pf hate almost made me not buy a firebird. But I figured Id throw in a king bb to avoid having to replace the bb. Not had an issue at all. Would I prefer threaded, you bet. Would I pay an extra $100 + for a threaded bb bike, for sure. But not a deal breaker for me anymore.
  • 6 0
 @ryan83: me too, I'd opt for threaded given the choice. But since I can't afford a $8000 bike, I ride a YT. The pressfit on my Capra gave me exactly zero issues and its only slightly more hassle to replace a pressfit compared to a threaded....just buy the right tool for the job and get it done...then go ride.
  • 3 0
 Have to admit I've not had a problem PF with my MTB for the last 3 years or CX bike for the last year. Could just be I don't ride as much as I used to.
  • 1 1
 @freestyIAM: bbinfinite.com. problem solved.
  • 3 1
 @freestyIAM: threaded bbs can creak too. You shoulda got the Capra.
  • 5 3
 @AdustytrunkMonkey: You paid money for ceramic bearings in something that does 120rpm??

Ceramic bearings are for ultra high speed applications, not anything on a mountainbike, classic case of marketing winning over engineering.
  • 3 1
 @Bahh: Ceramic bearings also have a higher load carrying ability as well. Ceramic balls and races deform way less then there steel counterparts. This allows them to spin more freely under load like in a B.B. I would also have to guess our wheels are spinning faster then our cranks considering the whole derailleur system. Still wouldn't buy them myself but it's not marketing wank.
  • 1 0
 @Xc2dh1 : Yes and the new Guide brakes are reliable and everyone needs one of the most progressive bikes on the market. I can't believe I made such a blunder in getting a bike with the features and spec I wanted. @mm732, so i could have gotten an aftermarket fix for that and spent more money instead of just getting what i wanted on my new bike. Cool story.
  • 1 0
 @freestyIAM: Yet my lowly Race Face PF30 lasted for 3 solid years.
  • 1 0
 @endlessblockades: cool story. Everyone with a threaded bb has heard it and doesn't think it's special. But what ever, my point is I got what I wanted when I bought my bike. End of story. I don't understand why anyone would care to challenge that.
  • 1 0
 @freestyIAM: Don't feel challenged, I'm just saying that a PF BB is not a drivetrain death warrant, I'm surprised it has held up,
  • 1 0
 @freestyIAM: All good BBs are aftermarket
  • 25 8
 Ok Pinkbike i think we got it with the new YT Tues
  • 17 0
 Yeah, but have you seen that they released a new one?
  • 13 0
 @wpplayer18: We still need to See Angel's to see how the Spanish Do It.
  • 5 1
 @wpplayer18: OMG REALLY?! Where can I read about it?!
  • 5 0
 But I haven't seen AG's one.
  • 17 0
 Would you like another recap from Sea Otter?
  • 3 4
 @endlessblockades: hahahaha please no lol
  • 16 0
 #northcakalack
  • 5 0
 He's more like a Halfback. Northeastern transplant who you'd typically find nesting in Florida but it was too hot so they moved halfway back. ????
  • 9 1
 Still the dude with the best sponsor on the WC DH circuit, Oscar Blues! Loving the new Tues, just a tragic injustice that I cant afford one...
  • 9 1
 Moar Beer sponsers please. As Europeans we like to make fun of that horse piss that 'Muricans call beer. But truth be told, the US has the most diverse and highest quality beer that I have ever drank from anywhere in the world. American IPA's and Pale Ales are good AF. Cant stop drinking it. Another Raging Bitch please. Stone Flyingdog Left Hand Oh my!
  • 7 1
 It sure feels like Tues-day
  • 2 6
flag Uhlrichl1 (Apr 27, 2018 at 14:33) (Below Threshold)
 Its friday
  • 2 3
 Daaaaammmn, you just got down voted TF out.
  • 2 0
 Seems like they Do It well at YT. Stoked to see Neko kicking ass. I lived in his home town of Reading, PA and I got to see him shred some local races as a junior there. Good to see US riders other than just Gwin up there too.
  • 1 0
 "Sure; with a full carbon frame and wheels along with a Fox 40 fork, Neko prefers to run spoke tension a little lower than normal. He also runs alloy bars and cranks which allows the bike to a little more absorbent in the rough stuff."

Que? The principle reason for running carbon handle bars, especially in 31.8mm diameter, is their vibration dampening qualities. I have ridden 35mm carbon bars where this seems to have been forgotten in the search for wider and stiffer. This seems like an odd statement slightly at odds with actual physics.
  • 4 2
 "He also runs alloy bars and cranks which allows the bike to a little more absorbent in the rough stuff."
I always thought that carbon bars flexed more, can anyone explain?
  • 8 0
 Either material can be made stiff or soft/flexy/absorbent based on how the product is engineered. I'm guessing that between the options available from his sponsors, he found their particular aluminum options "more absorbent" than the carbon options. But everyone knows Bounty is the most absorbent
  • 4 2
 Also carbon is generally stiffer.
  • 8 4
 I’m gonna guess that he’s scared of carbon bars and carbon Cranks (for appropriate reasons), and the stiffness thing is a sponsor friendly explanation.
  • 2 0
 There are no bike parks near me. But the USA colors and having Gwin’s bike makes it almost a collectible. Drooling all over my screen!!
  • 2 0
 Love Neko. More than any other rider I feel like he’d just be one of the guys you could have a fun session with. All the best this season you dog.
  • 2 0
 This bike has been and remains my fave DH rig of my dreams! I couldn't ride it to it's potential but I'd kiss him and hug him and...
  • 3 0
 The best looking bike on the circuit I think. What a beaut
  • 3 0
 The bike would dope in Old Chub green. Oskar Blues that beast.
  • 1 0
 Those seat stays look really wide! It looks like there is already a lot of scuffing on them already. I wonder if that comes up in any reviews.
  • 1 0
 @nekomullaly Can I have your old one? That thing has had the living hell beat out of it. You what I ride bro.....take pity. Big Grin
  • 4 2
 Tues was soooooo last week!!!
  • 25 3
 Isn't there a Tuesday every week?
  • 5 10
flag TheRaven Plus (Apr 27, 2018 at 12:46) (Below Threshold)
 @mikekazimer: A Tuesday, yes. But not a Tues.
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer: sure seems like there’s another Tues every day right about now...
  • 4 0
 I "do it" every day. Mostly alone.
  • 2 1
 Somebody tell me if they altered the leverage ratio/ curve? Sorry if it’s posted somewhere else I’m a bit Tues’d out
  • 2 1
 Got off my arse and found it. Thanks anyway everyone
  • 1 2
 @ThomDawson: more progressive?
  • 1 2
 @kleinblake: on their production bike. Looks like Gwin is running a custom linkage, anyone know if that is more or less progressive? I assume more.
  • 2 0
 @TightAF: why would Aaron push for less progressivity and turn around and run a more progressive link?
  • 2 0
 @kleinblake: Gwizardry, you wouldnt understand.
  • 1 1
 @kleinblake: people confuse progressivity with falling rate leverage curves, maybe that’s what’s happening here?
He obviously wanted more mid stroke I.e less progressive, moar linear but did he also want an even lower falling rate leverage? They said in the other article they backed it off a bit to allow easier use of available travel. Gwin was probably quite happy with the amount of travel he was using in the first place, hence he has his own linkage?
  • 2 0
 sweet bike but i can't find the enter contest tab
  • 1 0
 Anyone know what the clear tubing on the gear cable outer to the rear mech is for?

Ta
  • 1 0
 Can a bike feel too stiff?
Yes.
According to the pros.
The marketing department will tell you different.
  • 1 0
 My favorite part is the helmet. Screw Red Bull, Monster, Rock Star... Oskar Blues is where it’s at!!
  • 1 3
 Ceramic bearings (huge cost vs insignificant change in watts used), playing with spoke tensions (no effect on wheel stiffness whatsoever, massive increase in chances of catastrophic wheel failure), claiming alloy bars are more compliant than carbon (only true if the carbon bars are made incredibly badly).

When will mtb grow out of its obsession with snake oil? Seriously, F1 engineers must read this shit and laugh their asses off. Top WC teams using shit that anyone with a modicum of knowledge can show to provide no benefit whatsoever. When the industry as a whole stops believing in fairytales and its own marketing bs, bikes are going to get a whole lot faster....
  • 1 1
 Not to mention air tokens to make up for improper damping....
  • 1 0
 There are *still* quite a few riders that I know of (probably more I don’t) riding around on wheels that apparently are about to explode. If that were the case don’t you think somebody as switched on to setup as Neko would have said “you know what, maybe Sheldon Brown and his cronies were right, this low spoke tension thing is stupid, my wheels keep exploding”. (Or is this a conspiracy by the riders to try and get their opponents to detension their wheels and ruin their race runs?)
It seems to me that there’s an opposite and equal force of nay sayers any time somebody tries something different.

And the carbon bs ally bars thing - either one will be harsh if it’s poorly designed. Early carbon designs for anything tended to be overly built (and therefore overly stiff) and I still don’t think people making bicycle parts have the level of know how or the desire to create strong yet compliant carbon products within a reasonable price. Personally I’d lean to ally every time because it ain’t broke. More compliance is just some bs carbon product manufacturers are using to sell something they bang out very cheaply and get a greater return on.
I’m supposed to believe these manufacturers are creating super stiff carbon rims yet their bars are super comfortable enough for my gran with chronic arthritis to ride? I seriously doubt they’ve put that level of R&D into it. They probably spent a lot more time looking at net profits.
Ceramic bearings...well it’s a WC race bike. Huge costs and small gains is par for the course.
  • 2 0
 @ThomDawson: It's not (just) some opinion voiced by sheldon brown and his cronies. It's physics. If you understand how metal performs when loaded, then it becomes clear that spoke tension can not effect wheel stiffness. Claiming it does is no different to claiming adding preload effects your spring rate. It doesn't. Lots of people think it does. These people are incorrect.

Carbon bits 100% agree. Carbon products in cycling are overly stiff because they are poorly made, not through some inherent advantage of aluminium.

Ceramic bearings. By insignificant gains, I mean that if you rode a perfectly smooth track for 10 hours straight, where the only limit to your top speed was the resistance of the bearings, ceramic bearings might get you there a few thousands of a second quicker. On a rough 4 minute dh track with corners and other things that slow you down whatever bearings you are using, it will make no difference at all. By insignificant gains I mean no real world gains whatsoever. You'd be better off filing half a mm off of the ends of your handlebars for the aerodynamic gains.
  • 2 0
 @gabriel-mission9: I absolutely understand the physics side of it, just to be clear. But I think that may be part of the problem - perhaps it’s not simply a matter of the properties of the spokes themselves. Otherwise people’s wheels would be folding in half all over the shop and everyone would agree that it’s a crap idea. Perhaps there is some mechanical flex when the spokes become totally detentioned and actually our mtb wheels are capable of holding up to a certain amount of this? So the spokes aren’t stretching, they’re just looser and therefore able to become slack under load, allowing the rim to move and flex within a window before the thing becomes so weak it fails.
Honestly I don’t know. But I feel like there’s more going on than the physical properties of one material which is one element of a bigger machine.
  • 1 0
 @ThomDawson: I can see where you are coming from and to a certain extent you are correct that there will be some window within which the spokes become fully slack and the rim will flex to take up the remaining force being exerted. But this window will be absolutely minuscule. Like it may take a many hundreds of pounds of force to deflect the rim enough for the spokes to become slack, and then maybe another 15lbs of force to fold the rim. For this to provide a noticeable improvement to ride quality would require that you operate only within this window.

A much better solution would be to use thinner spokes. This will provide measurable and repeatable increases in wheel compliance, throughout its entire operation, not just within an absolutely tiny window, either side of which you will see either no difference whatsoever or catastrophic failure.
  • 1 0
 And again by tiny window, i mean tiny to the same extent that the advantage given by ceramic bearings is tiny. ie. so small as to be useless, even in the hands of a wc pro rider.
  • 1 0
 Pays to advertise! This bike is all over PB and Vital. Most exposed DH bike in a while. CHa Ching!
  • 2 1
 What's with the hose frome chainstay to rear der?
  • 3 0
 Cable housing protector?
  • 1 0
 @endlessblockades: "yo dawg, so we heard you like cable housing, so we installed cable housing for your cable housing housing"
  • 1 0
 Bit of rubber hose to help protect the cable gear outer
  • 2 0
 man, beer sponsorship
  • 2 1
 Carbon absorbs impacts more than aluminium they said...
  • 3 0
 They say whatever they feel like. Often bullshit.
  • 3 0
 Heard exactly the same arguments for both materials
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 It does. When properly designed, a carbon product will have much improved compliance over a similar strength ali item.
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 KILOGRAM, anyone at Pinkbike?
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 You normally have to do a PM for that, but times are a changing.
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 Add to cart but not in stock yet, haha.
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 @PHeller dude it's not called a Tuesday. Have you ever seen or heard yt, it's marketing or athletes ever calling that. Not to mention the countless times people on these forums have explained. And why would you take a short name and intentionally make it longer isn't it usually the other way around. It's too-ez as in german for "do it".
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 that top tube goes on forever.....
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 Actually, it's just long enough to reach the headtube.
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 Only 6’ and he’s on an XL with a 50mm stem. Sounds like YT needs bigger frames to me.
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 and a +6 headset
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 My mistake though, they do offer an XXL.
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 Looks like a Truth
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 Wow Drool
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