After looking at both the
biggest and
smallest winning margins in Elite World Cup Downhill racing we thought it would be interesting to look back through 21 years of racing to see which bikes would come out on top and who performed best on a particular rider/bike combination. Take a look at our findings after we crunched the numbers from World Cups and World Championships.
The Five DH Bikes with the Most Elite World Cup & World Championships Wins:1. Trek Session - 38 WinsComing out on the top of the list is the Trek Session. After taking its first win in 2009 the Session has helped secure at least one win for nine of the twelve following years. The most successful years for Trek's downhill bike came from the pairing of Tracy Moseley and Aaron Gwin with eight and nine wins each respectively. Closely following this period was Rachel Atherton's dominant racing period in where she took 20 wins onboard the Session. The only other rider to have won on the Session is Reece Wilson's World Champs victory last year.
Rachel Atherton was also the most successful rider to have ridden the Trek Session at the Elite World Cup level as she secured 20 race wins. Aaron Gwin took the second most number of wins with nine and Tracy Mosely in third with eight top results.
Year by Year Breakdown:
2020 - 1
2018 - 4
2017 - 1
2016 - 8
2015 - 7
2012 - 4
2011 - 9
2010 - 1
2009 - 3
2. Commencal Supreme - 34 WinsComing only four wins behind the Session is the Commencal Supreme. This bike has been a staple of the World Cup circuit since its early prototype stage under Anne Caroline Chausson in 2003. Since its early years, the Supreme has featured on the top step of the podium at least once for 11 of the past 17 years. Of those 11 years, the Supreme has managed to only drop below two wins for two of those years.
The most successful years of the Commencal Supreme came from the period where the Athertons were riding the brand with Rachel Atherton securing eight wins and Gee Atherton managing five. The Supreme dropped off the top step of the podium for three seasons from 2014 to 2016. In 2015 Commencal launched the V4 with a high pivot and an idler pulley suspension system. This new version of the bike did not see any major elite World Cup success until 2017, a season where the Supreme became one of the first bikes to play around with 29" wheels. Following this move, the Supreme managed to take an average of three wins a year for the following four seasons.
Year by Year Breakdown:
2020 - 2
2019 - 4
2018 - 4
2017 - 2
2013 - 1
2011 - 2
2010 - 5
2008 - 7
2005 - 4
2004 - 1
2003 - 2
3. Santa Cruz V10 - 33 WinsJust one win behind the Commencal with the third most number of elite World Cup wins is the Santa Cruz V10. While the V10 may be third in overall wins, it does take the highest number of consecutive years with at least one elite World Cup win with a winning streak from 2006 all the way to 2018.
The best year of racing for the Santa Cruz downhill bike came in 2009 when Greg Minnaar and Steve Peat managed to take wins at six of the nine rounds (including World Champs) that season. Greg Minnaar is also the joint-second most successful rider/bike combination onboard the V10 with a huge 19 wins, this falls just one win short of Rachel Atherton and Trek he could still come out on top if he can take more wins in the future. Interestingly, the short 2020 saw the V10 make a resurgence under Loris Vergier, Nina Hoffmann and Greg Minnaar with four elite World Cup wins for the Santa Cruz making it the second most successful season for the platform.
Year by Year Breakdown:
2020 - 4
2018 - 1
2017 - 2
2016 - 1
2015 - 3
2014 - 2
2013 - 1
2012 - 2
2011 - 2
2010 - 2
2009 - 6
2008 - 3
2007 - 1
2006 - 1
2003 - 2
4. Cannondale Gemini - 21 WinsIn fourth place is the Cannondale Gemini with 21 elite World Cup wins. Although the Cannondale hasn't secured a win since 2003, it manages to make it high in the list after Anne Caroline Chausson secured 19 wins in four seasons on board the bike. Alongside ACC it was Cedric Gracia who managed to pilot the classic bike to another two wins pushing it ahead of the Specialized Demo that falls just short after 12 years of racing World Cups.
The Cannondale Gemini took its most wins in 2000 when ACC won all but two rounds (including World Champs) and Cedric Gracia took a win in Leysin. The following year it was more of the same when ACC once again managed to top the podium seven times.
Year by Year Breakdown:
2003 - 1
2002 - 5
2001 - 7
2000 - 8
5. Specialized Demo / GT Fury / Iron Horse Sunday - 18Rounding out the top five World Cup downhill bikes is a three-way tie with the Specialized Demo, GT Fury and Iron Horse Sunday all totalling 18 wins each since 2000.
The Specialized Demo has seen several top riders take on World Cup with the likes of Sam Hill, Troy Brosnan, Aaron Gwin and Loic Bruni all taking the top steps of the podium. The Demo's most successful rider is Loic Bruni who has taken nine wins so far with Specialized.
While it has not seen as much recent success as the Demo the GT Fury saw most of its wins when the Athertons were riding for the brand with Rachel Atherton securing 12 of its 18 victories. Gee Atherton is the next most successful rider on the GT Fury with four wins to his name.
Finally, the third bike to sit in fifth position is the classic Iron Horse Sunday. We haven't seen this bike take a World Cup win since 2008 but under the likes of Sam Hill and Sabrina Jonnier, this proved to be a formidable race machine.
Winning Stats Breakdown:It's no surprise to see Rachel Atherton topping the list with her time on the Trek Session, which included part of her incredible winning streak from May 2015 to June 2017. Next up in a tie for second place is Greg Minnaar and the V10 alongside Anne-Caroline Chausson and the Gemini on 19 wins. The fourth name on the list is once again Rachel Atherton but this time it is the GT Fury that helped her secured 12 wins at World Cups. The fifth entry on the list with 11 wins is the legendary combination of Sam Hill and the Iron Horse Sunday.
Next up we looked into which bike brands have secured the most Elite World Cup wins, and this stays relatively similar to the top five DH bikes but after the top three of Trek, Commencal and Santa Cruz we see GT bump its way ahead of Cannondale and Specialized to take the fourth spot with 24 wins across the Fury and DHi models. Cannondale and Specialized follow GT with 22 and 20 wins respectively, then Iron Horse falls just two wins back with 18 victories to their name.
Looking further into the top bike brands you can see that companies founded in the USA collected the most Elite World Cup wins with a huge 184 victories since 2000. Coming in second with 34 top results is the sixth smallest European nation Andorra. Closing out the top three is Canada with 24 wins, this just beats out the UK at 19 wins.
We also thought it would be interesting to look into how many years a particular bike has come out on top with the most wins, for this statistic it is the Commencal Supreme which dethrones the Trek Session to take the top spot with five seasons where it sat as the top race bike. The session is very close behind with four years then we have a tie between the GT Fury and the Cannondale Gemini with three years on top. Finally, the only other bikes to have more than one year at the top is the Iron Horse Sunday and Santa Cruz V10.
Race By Race Breakdown:2020Maribor Round 1:
Loris Vergier - Santa Cruz V10
Marine Cabirou - Scott Gambler
Maribor Round 2:
Loris Vergier - Santa Cruz V10
Nina Hoffmann - Santa Cruz V10
Lousa Round 1:
Greg Minnaar - Santa Cruz V10
Myriam Nicole - Commencal Supreme
Lousa Round 2:
Loic Bruni - Sepcialized Demo
Marine Cabirou - Scott Gambler
Leogang World Champs:
Reece Wilson - Trek Session
Camille Balanche - Commencal Supreme
2019Maribor Round 1:
Loic Bruni - Specialized Demo
Tahnee Seagrave - Transition TR11
Fort William Round 2:
Amaury Pierron - Commencal Supreme
Rachel Atherton - Atherton Prototype
Leogang Round 3:
Loic Bruni - Specialized Demo
Tracey Hannah - Polygon XSquare
Vallnord Round 4:
Loic Bruni - Specialized Demo
Rachel Atherton - Atherton Prototype
Les Gets Round 5:
Amaury Pierron - Commencal Supreme
Tracey Hannah - Polygon XSquare
Val di Sole Round 6:
Laurie Greenland - Mondraker Summum
Marine Cabirou - Scott Gambler
Lenzerheide Round 7:
Amaury Pierron - Commencal Supreme
Marine Cabirou - Scott Gambler
Snowshoe Round 8:
Danny Hart - Saracen Myst
Marine Cabirou - Scott Gambler
Mont-Sainte-Anne World Champs:
Loic Bruni - Specialized Demo
Myriam Nicole - Commencal Supreme
2018Losinj Round 1:
Aaron Gwin - YT Tues
Myriam Nicole - Commencal Supreme
Fort William Round 2:
Amaury Pierron - Commencal Supreme
Tahnee Seagrave - Transition TR11
Leogang Round 3:
Amaury Pierron - Commencal Supreme
Rachel Atherton - Trek Session
Val di Sole Round 4:
Amaury Pierron - Commencal Supreme
Tahnee Seagrave Transition TR11
Vallnord Round 5:
Loris Vergier - Santa Cruz V10
Tahnee Seagrave - Transition TR11
Mont-Sainte-Anne Round 6:
Loic Bruni - Specialized Demo
Rachel Atherton - Trek Session
La Bresse Round 7:
Martin Maes - GT Fury
Rachel Atherton - Trek Session
Lenzerheide World Champs:
Loic Bruni - Specialized Demo
Rachel Atherton - Trek Session
2017Lourdes Round 1:
Alexandre Fayolle - Polygon Collosus
Rachel Atherton - Trek Session
Fort William Round 2:
Greg Minnaar - Santa Cruz V10
Tracey Hannah - Polygon Collosus
Leogang Round 3:
Aaron Gwin - YT Tues
Tahnee Seagrave - Transition TR11
Vallnord Round 4:
Troy Brosnan - Canyon Sender
Myriam Nicole - Commencal Supreme
Lenzerheide Round 5:
Greg Minnaar - Santa Cruz V10
Myriam Nicole - Commencal Supreme
Mont-Sainte-Anne Round 6:
Aaron Gwin - YT Tues
Tahnee Seagrave - Transition TR11
Val-di-Sole Round 7:
Aaron Gwin - YT Tues
Tahnee Seagrave - Transition TR11
Cairns World Champs:
Loic Bruni - Specialized Demo
Miranda Miller - Specialized Demo
2016Lourdes Round 1:
Aaron Gwin - YT Tues
Rachel Atherton - Trek Session
Cairns Round 2:
Loic Bruni - Specialized Demo
Rachel Atherton - Trek Session
Fort William Round 3:
Greg Minnaar - Santa Cruz V10
Rachel Atherton - Trek Session
Leogang Round 4:
Aaron Gwin - YT Tues
Rachel Atherton - Trek Session
Lenzerheide Round 5:
Danny Hart - Mondraker Summum
Rachel Atherton - Trek Session
Mont-Sainte-Anne Round 6:
Danny Hart - Mondraker Summum
Rachel Atherton - Trek Session
Vallnord Round 7:
Danny Hart - Mondraker Summum
Rachel Atherton - Trek Session
Val di Sole World Champs:
Danny Hart - Mondraker Summum
Rachel Atherton - Trek Session
2015Lourdes Round 1:
Aaron Gwin - Specialized Demo
Emmeline Ragot - Mondraker Summum
Fort William Round 2:
Greg Minnaar - Santa Cruz V10
Rachel Atherton - Trek Session
Leogang Round 3:
Aaron Gwin - Specialized Demo
Rachel Atherton - Trek Session
Lenzerheide Round 4:
Greg Minnaar - Santa Cruz V10
Rachel Atherton - Trek Session
Mont-Sainte-Anne Round 5:
Josh Bryceland - Santa Cruz V10
Rachel Atherton - Trek Session
Windham Round 6:
Aaron Gwin - Specialized Demo
Rachel Atherton - Trek Session
Val di Sole Round 7:
Aaron Gwin - Specialized Demo
Rachel Atherton - Trek Session
Vallnord World Champs:
Loic Bruni - Lapiere DH
Rachel Atherton - Trek Session
2014Pietermaritzburg Round 1:
Aaron Gwin - Specialized Enduro Evo
Manon Carpenter - Saracen Myst
Cairns Round 2:
Gee Atherton - GT Fury
Rachel Atherton - GT Fury
Fort William Round 3:
Troy Brosnan - Specialized Demo
Emmeline Ragot - Lapierre DH
Leogang Round 4:
Josh Bryceland - Santa Cruz V10
Manon Carpenter - Saracen Myst
Mont-Sainte-Anne Round 5:
Sam Hill - Nukeproof Pulse
Manon Carpenter - Saracen Myst
Windham Round 6:
Josh Bryceland - Santa Cruz V10
Emmeline Ragot - Lapierre DH
Meribel Round 7:
Sam Hill - Nukeproof Pulse
Rachel Atherton - GT Fury
Hafjell World Champs:
Gee Atherton - GT Fury
Manon Carpenter - Saracen Myst
2013Fort William Round 1:
Gee Atherton - GT Fury
Rachel Atherton - GT Fury
Val di Sole Round 2:
Gee Atherton - GT Fury
Rachel Atherton - GT Fury
Vallnord Round 3:
Remi Thirion - Commencal Supreme
Rachel Atherton - GT Fury
Mont-Sainte-Anne Round 4:
Steve Smith - Devinci Wilson
Emmeline Ragot - Lapierre DH
Hafjell Round 5:
Steve Smith - Devinci Wilson
Rachel Atherton - GT Fury
Leogang Round 6:
Steve Smith - Devinci Wilson
Emmeline Ragot - Lapierre DH
Pietermaritzburg World Champs:
Greg Minnaar - Santa Cruz V10
Rachel Atherton - GT Fury
2012Pietermaritzburg Round 1:
Greg Minnaar - Santa Cruz V10
Tracey Hannah - Morewood Makulu
Val di Sole Round 2:
Aaron Gwin - Trek Session
Rachel Atherton - GT Fury
Fort William Round 3:
Aaron Gwin - Trek Session
Emmeline Ragot - Mondraker Summum
Mont-Sainte-Anne Round 4:
Aaron Gwin - Trek Session
Rachel Atherton - GT Fury
Windham Round 5:
Aaron Gwin - Trek Session
Rachel Atherton - GT Fury
Val d’Isere Round 6:
Brook MacDonald - Mondraker Summum
Rachel Atherton - GT Fury
Hafjell Round 7:
Steve Smith - Devinci Wilson
Rachel Atherton - GT Fury
Leogang World Champs:
Greg Minnaar - Santa Cruz V10
Morgane Charre - Specialized Demo
2011Pietermaritzburg Round 1:
Aaron Gwin - Trek Session
Tracy Moseley - Trek Session
Fort William Round 2:
Greg Minnaar - Santa Cruz V10
Tracy Moseley - Trek Session
Leogang Round 3:
Aaron Gwin - Trek Session
Floriane Pugin - Scott Gambler
Mont-Sainte-Anne Round 4:
Aaron Gwin - Trek Session
Tracy Moseley - Trek Session
Windham Round 5:
Aaron Gwin - Trek Session
Rachel Atherton - Commencal Supreme
La Bresse Round 6:
Greg Minnaar - Santa Cruz V10
Tracy Moseley - Trek Session
Val di Sole Round 7:
Aaron Gwin - Trek Session
Myriam Nicole - Commencal Supreme
Champery World Champs:
Danny Hart - Giant Glory
Emmeline Ragot - Mondraker Summum
2010Maribor Round 1:
Greg Minnaar - Santa Cruz V10
Rachel Atherton - Commencal Supreme
Fort William Round 2:
Gee Atherton - Commencal Supreme
Sabrina Jonnier - Rocky Mountain Flatline
Leogang Round 3:
Greg Minnaar - Santa Cruz V10
Sabrina Jonnier - Rocky Mountain Flatline
Champery Round 4:
Gee Atherton - Commencal Supreme
Emmeline Ragot - Intense M9
Val di Sole Round 5:
Marc Beaumont - GT Fury
Emmeline Ragot - Intense M9
Windham Round 6:
Gee Atherton - Commencal Supreme
Rachel Atherton Commencal Supreme
Mont-Sainte-Anne World Champs:
Sam Hil - Specialized Demo
Tracy Moseley - Trek Session
2009Pietermaritzburg Round 1:
Greg Minnaar - Santa Cruz V10
Tracy Moseley - Trek Session
La Bresse Round 2:
Steve Peat - Santa Cruz V10
Sabrina Jonnier - Rocky Mountain Flatline
Vallnord Round 3:
Steve Peat - Santa Cruz V10
Sabrina Jonnier - Rocky Mountain Flatline
Fort William Round 4:
Greg Minnaar - Santa Cruz V10
Tracy Moseley - Trek Session
Maribor Round 5:
Fabien Barel - Mondraker Summon
Sabrina Jonnier - Rocky Mountain Flatline
Mont-Sainte-Anne Round 6:
Sam Hill - Specialized Demo
Sabrina Jonnier - Rocky Mountain Flatline
Bromont Round 7:
Greg Minnaar - Santa Cruz V10
Sabrina Jonnier - Rocky Mountain Flatline
Schladming Round 8:
Sam Hill - Specialized Demo
Tracy Moseley - Trek Session
Canberra World Champs:
Steve Peat - Santa Cruz V10
Emmeline Ragot - Turner DHR
2008Maribor Round 1:
Sam Hill - Iron Horse Sunday
Sabrina Jonnier - Iron Horse Sunday
Vallnord Round 2:
Gee Atherton - Commencal Supreme
Rachel Atherton - Commencal Supreme
Fort William Round 3:
Greg Minnaar - Santa Cruz V10
Tracy Moseley - Kona Stab
Mont-Sainte-Anne Round 4:
Greg Minnaar - Santa Cruz V10
Rachel Atherton - Commencal Supreme
Bromont Round 5:
Sam Hill - Iron Horse Sunday
Rachel Atherton - Commencal Supreme
Canberra Round 6:
Greg Minnaar - Santa Cruz V10
Tracy Moseley - Kona Stab
Schladming Round 7:
Sam Blenkinsop - Yeti 303
Rachel Atherton - Commencal Supreme
Val di Sole World Champs:
Gee Atherton - Commencal Supreme
Rachel Atherton - Commencal Supreme
2007Vigo Round 1:
Marc Beaumont - Santa Cruz V10
Sabrina Jonnier - Iron Horse Sunday
Champery Round 2:
Matti Lehikoinen - Honda RN01
Marielle Saner - Turner DHR
Mont-Sainte-Anne Round 3:
Sam Hill - Iron Horse Sunday
Sabrina Jonnier - Iron Horse Sunday
Schladming Round 4:
Sam Hill - Iron Horse Sunday
Tracey Hannah - Orange 224
Maribor Round 5:
Sam Hill - Iron Horse Sunday
Rachel Atherton - Commencal Supreme
Fort William World Champs:
Sam Hill - Iron Horse Sunday
Sabrina Jonnier - Iron Horse Sunday
2006Vigo Round 1:
Mick Hannah - Cannondale Judge
Tracy Moseley - Kona Stab
Fort William Round 2:
Sam Hill - Iron Horse Sunday
Tracy Moseley - Kona Stab
Willingen Round 3:
Steve Peat - Santa Cruz V10
Tracy Moseley - Kona Stab
Mont-Sainte-Anne Round 4:
Chris Kovarik - Intense M6
Sabrina Jonnier - Iron Horse Sunday
Balneario Camboriu Round 5:
Matti Lehikoinen - Honda RN01
Rachel Atherton - Giant Glory
Schladming Round 6:
Sam Hill - Iron Horse Sunday
Sabrina Jonnier - Iron Horse Sunday
Rotorua World Champs:
Sam Hill - Iron Horse Sunday
Sabrina Jonnier - Iron Horse Sunday
2005Vigo Round 1:
Steve Peat - Orange 223
Sabrina Jonnier - Intense M6
Willingen Round 2:
Greg Minnaar - Honda RN01
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Commencal Supreme
Schladming Round 3:
Sam Hill - Iron Horse Sunday
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Commencal Supreme
Mont-Sainte-Anne Round 4:
Fabien Barel - Kona Stab
Tracy Moseley - Kona Stab
Balneario Camboriu Round 5:
Greg Minnaar - Honda RN01
Tracy Moseley - Kona Stab
Angel Fire Round 6:
Greg Minnaar - Honda RN01
Sabrina Jonnier - Intense M6
Pila Round 7:
Sam Hill - Iron Horse Sunday
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Commencal Supreme
Fort William Round 8:
Steve Peat - Orange 223
Tracy Moseley - Kona Stab
Livigno World Champs:
Fabien Barel - Kona Stab
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Commencal Supreme
2004Fort William Round 1:
Greg Minnaar - Honda RN01
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Commencal Supreme
Les Deux Alpes Round 2:
Steve Peat - Orange 223
Tracy Moseley - Kona Stab
Schladming Round 3:
Gee Atherton - Intense M1 (MuddyFox)
Marielle Saner - MSC F-1.0 DH
Mont-Sainte-Anne Round 4:
Steve Peat - Orange 223
Sabrina Jonnier - Intense M3
Calgary Round 5:
David Vazquez Lopez - MSC F-1.0 DH
Celine Gros - Scott High Octane
Livigno Round 6:
David Vazquez Lopez - MSC F-1.0 DH
Celine Gros - Scott High Octane
Les Gets World Champs:
Fabien Barel - Kona Stab
Vanessa Quin - Intense M3
2003Fort William Round 1:
Cedric Gracia - Cannondale Gemini
Celine Gros - Scott High Octane
Alpe d’Huez Round 2:
Nathan Rennie - Iron Horse Sunday
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Commencal Supreme (Prototype)
Mont-Sainte-Anne Round 3:
Steve Peat - Orange 223
Fionn Griffiths - Foes DHS
Grouse Mountain Round 5:
Ivan Oulego Moreneo - Santa Cruz V10
Fionn Griffiths - Foes DHS
Kaprun Round 6:
David Vazquez Lopez - MSC F-1.0 DH
Marla Streb - Santa Cruz V10
Lugano World Champs:
Greg Minnaar - Haro DHR (Produced by Intense)
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Commencal Supreme (Prototype)
2002Fort William Round 1:
Chris Kovarik - Intense M1
Tracy Moseley - Kona Stab
Maribor Round 2:
Chris Kovarik - Intense M1
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Cannondale Gemini
Mont-Sainte-Anne Round 3:
Steve Peat - Orange 222
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Cannondale Gemini
Telluride Round 5:
Steve Peat - Orange 222
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Cannondale Gemini
Les Gets Round 6:
Steve Peat - Orange 222
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Cannondale Gemini
Kaprun World Champs:
Nicolas Vouilloz - VProcess NV02
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Cannondale Gemini
2001Maribor Round 1:
Steve Peat - GT DHi
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Cannondale Gemini
Vars Round 2:
Steve Peat - GT DHi
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Cannondale Gemini
Grouse Mountain Round 3:
Fabien Barel - GT DHi
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Cannondale Gemini
Durango Round 4:
Mickael Pascal - Be-One DH
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Cannondale Gemini
Arai Mountain Round 5:
Nicolas Vouilloz - VProcess NV01
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Cannondale Gemini
Leysin Round 6:
Mickael Pascal - Be-One DH
Katja Repo - GT DHi
Kaprun Round 7:
Greg Minnaar - Orange 222
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Cannondale Gemini
Mont-Sainte-Anne Round 8:
Chris Kovarik - Intense M1
Sabrina Jonnier - Intense M1
Vail World Champs:
Nicolas Vouilloz - VProcess NV01
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Cannondale Gemini
2000Les Gets Round 1:
David Vazquez Lopez - Specialized FSH DH
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Cannondale Gemini
Cortina d’Ampezzo Round 2:
Nicolas Vouilloz - VProcess NV00
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Cannondale Gemini
Maribor Round 3:
Nicolas Vouilloz - VProcess NV00
Leigh Donovan - Schwinn Straight 8
Mont-Sainte-Anne Round 4:
Fabien Barel - GT DHi
Missy Giove - Foes DHS
Vail Round 5:
Steve Peat - GT Dhi
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Cannondale Gemini
Arai Mountain Round 6:
Nicolas Vouilloz - VProcess NV00
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Cannondale Gemini
Kaprun Round 7:
Nicolas Vouilloz - VProcess NV00
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Cannondale Gemini
Leysin Round 8:
Cedric Gracia - Cannondale Cannondale Gemini
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Cannondale Gemini
Sierra Nevada World Champs:
Myles Rockwell - Giant ATX DH
Anne-Caroline Chausson - Cannondale Gemini
"misogyny"
"think about your attitude"
"you should be ridiculed"
"you thought that"
"misogyny is gross"
The thought police are out in full force this morning.
So glad you are here to order us all on how we should or should not jest.... Oh Highest Master of Internet Courtesy & Condemnation. You are truly wise and omnipotent in these matters.
Take Bulldog as an example, didn't get on with the GT then got a new lease of life back on Mondraker.
Really wasn't expecting that level of response from some of the comments - this is the internet after all. Perhaps I should know better.
@greasecheese7 you are my inspiration for the awful metaphor.
@dualcrownscottspark: sorry you got this shitty treatment
If someone could explain why they disagree with all the points I made I would greatly appreciate it. I feel like those who disagree are saying misogyny is a good thing, and that a woman's purpose is to do a man's bidding.(YUCK!) To those who think that, and even those that don't, flip that concept over and just think about how it would effect you. Then realize that there are so many woman that live that, imagine how awful that would be!
This thread really made me realize how awful people are. Although I already knew, this really proves it though. I am so glad I was born in the 2000s and not the 1950s and before. I know that misogyny will always be here (although it doesn't have to be) and it will not be gone in my lifetime. But I can at least be happy that I wasn't born in the decades where woman couldn't even work, were treated so poorly, and wouldn't have been able to do any sports at all!
@thustlewhumber and @cuban-b-can-blow-me I understand that your comments may have been satire, but they really were not funny. Also, what are your opinions on what I've said? I'm curious.
I also really hope what you're saying is true, but I'm not sure it is. I mean @johnny2shoes, @PeteNoble13, and @bike-lair also got downvoted a ton for saying things very close to what I did.
Glad you asked. I have 15 & 17 year old daughters who are online all day everyday. But they understand that the internet is shock and awe and pretend.
Miss, you are speaking to "actors'. No one typing in these comments is the person you meet in real life. So when you argue all the things you did, you're NOT SAYING THEM TO A REAL PERSON.
You're arguing with characters who choose their role upon a whim. This is not real. If we were all standing around, none of what has been read would be said.
And that is NOT because online people "show their true selves". It's because online, they can pretend to be someone else.
So don't be offended. This is the nerdiest Wonderland and you Alice are trying to debate the Mad Hatter. You are young, excited about bikes and should definitely enjoy the articles, the videos, etc. We all love bikes.
But you are getting upset with people wearing masks and speaking in false voices. Don't fall victim to nonsense.
I would caution my daughters to do the same, but no teenage girl listens to their dad.
For some people what they say online is an act, for many others it's not. Riyadh said something sexist, then he was ashamed of saying this, so he apologised sincerly and deleted it; this is not the behaviour of someone just 'acting' out online, this is someone being accountable for what they say, as they know it has meaning.
And people don't randomly upvote and downvote in ways unrelated to their values. Riyadh received 72 upvotes *for his apology*. Yet, after being downvoted 200 times for calling out misogamy, dualcrownscottspark got another 30+ downvotes for apologising for her calling it out so strongly. It's all a mess.
After all of that, telling her not to be offended because it's all just a game is incredibly disrespectful.
All that said, she's proved she can defend herself and doesn't need someone like me to do it for her, so I'm out of here.
I try not to take these things seriously. Yet when people are obviously sexist, I cannot stand it and will say something about it.
Honestly, though, we all need to get off our computers and get on our bikes to go for a nice long ride.
"Are you coming to bed?"
"I can't. This is important."
"What?"
"SOMEONE IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET"
That meme is older than you are and it's the only one you should ever take to heart
@dualcrownscottspark: you're 13 & defending the world against online nameless, faceless misogyny and sexism. That alone should make you turn off your computer. You really are a kid and enjoying that part of life is something the rest of us would love to have back.
@overconfident "gaslighting" ??? Synonym for butthurt. Good on you for being one of the internet SJW sheep for using it. You're so "woke". The internet is pretend. Can't convince me otherwise.
Bye folks. I've got a fantasy DH race season to win.
I want to know what are the wining-ist tyres.
And does switching to or from maxxis, change your overall WC result
Need to actually know what tyres were used.
Not the tyres that were supplied/sponsored
Too bad, it could be analyzed by factoring out the rider.
#of top 10 finishes on different riders.
Index by # of bikes raced that day by brand (of data available)
This article reads like most of the “due diligence” posted on r/wallstreetbets
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@CrimsonGrimace21:
Manufacturer results 2000-2020 mens wins (female wins):
Santa Cruz: 31 (2)
Specialized: 19 (1)
Commencal: 12 (22)
Iron Horse: 12 (7)
GT: 11 (13)
Trek: 10 (2
Looking at this data it sure looks like Specialized and Santa Cruz need to step up their factory team support for female riders! Only 3 first places over 20 years. Props have to go out to Commencal and Trek for finding and supporting the fastest female DH riders and walking the walk to make DH more inclusive over the past 20 years.
Atherton: Wins on 4 bikes. A couple would not be anywhere near where they are on the list without her.
Minnaar: V10 barely ranks without him.
Peaty: Wins on 4.
Sam Hill: Wins on 3. Single handedly put some brands on the list.
Gwin on 3 bikes. Without him YT isn nowhere.
To me this study is awesome but really show the value of quality riders to brands and why they're worth getting paid.
www.vitalmtb.com/features/The-Sunday-Shreds-Again-A-Legend-Reborn,2240
Huge props to putting it together Edward !
Rachel had 20 wins, making those years the most successful for Trek. ACC+ AG had 17.
YT should have given 10% of the company to keep Holl.
Joking aside I'm glad to see that the rider is the determining factor
It would be interesting how these charts would change if you count the entire podiums, what bike would be dominant then?
Lies,
damm Lies,
and they all look like a Session.
All joking assided well done on the geek-out analysis.
Only Tracey took a Morewood to a win, while the Giant was piloted by Danny, in his famous Champery run, by Rach at Balneario Camboriu in her early years, before their team moved to Commencal, and by the legendary Myles Rockwell in Sierra Nevada, when he slept an extra hour, ditched training and wore moto clothes to fight the odds (and the lycra) for the win.
The Straight 6 and Straight 8 were derivative of the Lawwill Yeti DH-8 both made in Golden CO. 2000 was sort of the end of high end Schwinn as they and GT filed for bankruptcy the next year - not before a group of employees bought Yeti and saved the brand to become what it is today.
Prior to this, the Schwinn/Toyota Rav4 team was extremely competitive in the late 90's with riders like Elke Brutsaert, John Kirkalde and Cully.
I’d imagine, there was probably a combined effect of athlete in peak performance, coupled with familiar set up, for Rachael Atherton and the Trek Session wins?
It's a bit like how many wins a fork has, if 90% of the field are running 40s or Boxxers, than much better does a win look for Manitou or Ohlins?
What I'd like to see is the list showing the average finishing position by bike of unsponsored riders (or at least outside say the top 20). That might actually tell you something.
*ducks*