After looking at the
downhill bikes with the most Elite World Cup and World Champs wins, we thought it would be interesting to look back through the past eight years of EWS racing. Look at our findings after we crunched the numbers from the EWS.
The Five Enduro Bikes with the Most Elite EWS Wins:1. Commencal Meta - 22 WinsHitting the top of the list is the Commencal Meta that has secured 22 Elite EWS victories. Currently, every Elite win on the Meta has come from Cécile Ravanel after she took the first of seven wins on the bike in 2016. 2017 saw seven more wins on the Meta with eight in 2018.
Although she has
stepped back from full-time EWS racing, her young teammate Antoine Vidal has taken multiple Junior wins with the bike and now that he has moved up to Elites this year meaning the Commencal could see an increase in its lead as the most successful EWS bike in the coming years.
Year by Year Breakdown:
2018: 8
2017: 7
2016: 7
2. Trek Remedy - 16 WinsComing in second place is the Trek Remedy that saw plenty of success in the early years of the EWS under Tracy Moseley and Justin Leov. While the Trek team are now using the Slash as their Enduro race bike, it has yet to notch any Elite wins.
Kicking off with a stellar run at the inaugural EWS in 2013, Tracy Moseley began a four-year streak with a total of five wins in one season. This tally would only be beaten by 2015, where Tracy was able to secure six wins and Justin Leov took one win at the Glentress round.
Year by Year Breakdown:
2016: 1
2015: 7
2014: 3
2013: 5
3. Yeti SB6C - 10 WinsSitting in third with less than half the wins of the Commencal Meta is Yeti's SB6C.
The bike was first seen at the 2014 Winter Park round of the EWS under Jared Graves and he would go on to take three wins with the bike. Also riding the SB6C was Richie Rude who managed a total of seven wins.
The SB6C took its first victory at its frst race, then went on to take a second win in Whistler the next round. Following 2014, the SB6C took four wins in 2015 that were matched to a further four wins in 2016. Yeti wouldn't take another EWS win until the SB150 when Richie Rude secured five wins across 2018 and 2019.
Year by Year Breakdown:
2016: 4
2015: 4
2014: 2
4. Lapierre Spicy - 7 WinsFourth place goes to the Lapierre's Spicy. With seven wins spread between 2013 to 2020, the Spicy has the longest lineage spread of any bike at the EWS and it holds the title of the highest number of riders taking wins on the bike at three. Since the EWS began in 2013 the Spicy has seen top podium finishes by Nicolas Vouilloz, Adrien Dailly and Isabeau Courdurier.
Year by Year Breakdown:
2013: 1
2017: 3
2018: 1
2020: 2
5. Nukeproof Mega / Cannondale Jekyll / Ibis Mojo - 6 WinsRounding out the top five Enduro bikes is a three-way tie with the Nukeproof Mega, Cannondale Jekyll and Ibis Mojo all hitting six Elite EWS wins.
Interestingly all three bikes have only seen success under one rider each. The Nukeproof Mega helped Sam Hill take multiple overall titles and six event wins. The Cannondale Jekyll saw incredible early wins at the start of the EWS with Jerome Clementz and the Ibis Mojo was skillfully piloted by the legendary Anne-Caroline-Chausson.
Winning Stats Breakdown:Topping the most winning brands is Commencal with Cécile Ravanel's 22 wins on the Meta beating out every other brand with multiple riders and bikes. Yeti just beats Trek with 17 wins to 16 wins in second and third place. Then rounding out the top five brands is Intense and Lapierre with eight and seven wins respectively.
Coming as no surprise the top two winning bike and rider combinations is Cécile Ravanel on the Meta at 22, Tracy Moseley on the Remedy at 15. third place on the list goes to Richie Rude on the SB6C, Sam Hill on the Mega, Jerome Clementz on the Jekyll and ACC on the Mojo. All of them total six wins each.
When we did our winning Downhill bikes analysis you asked us to split the results between the Men and Women and when looking at Enduro bikes you can see a big difference in the lists. Whereas the Women's results are dominated by the Commencal Meta, Trek Remedy, and Ibis Mojo, we see a whole different list for the Men.
The Yeti SB6C tops out the Men's list with 10 wins, this is followed by a three-way tie for second place with the Nukeproof Mega, Cannondale Jekyll and Lapierre Spicy all sitting with six wins. Third place on the Men's list goes to the SB150 with five wins.
Just like in a winning Downhill bike analysis we see the USA take the top spot with 62 Elite EWS wins and Andorra coming in second again at 22 wins. The third spot on the list goes to France as it edges out Germany with eight and seven wins respectively.
Race By Race Breakdown:2013Punta Ala Round 1
Fabien Barel - Canyon Spectral (Prototype)
Tracy Moseley - Trek Remedy
Val d’Allos Round 2
Nicolas Vouilloz - Lapierre Spicy (Prototype)
Tracy Moseley - Trek Remedy
Les Deux Alpes Round 3
Jerome Clementz - Cannondale Jekyll
Tracy Moseley - Trek Remedy
Winter Park Round 4
Jerome Clementz - Cannondale Jekyll
Tracy Moseley - Trek Remedy
Whistler Round 5
Jared Graves - Yeti SB66C
Anne-Caroline-Chausson - Ibis Mojo
Val d’Isere Round 6
Jerome Clementz - Cannondale Jekyll
Anne-Caroline-Chausson - Ibis Mojo
Finale Ligure Round 7
Jerome Clementz - Cannondale Jekyll
Tracy Moseley - Trek Remedy
2014Nevados de Chillan Round 1
Jerome Clementz - Cannondale Jekyll
Anne-Caroline-Chausson - Ibis Mojo
Glentress Round 2
Nicolas Lau - Cube Stereo
Tracy Moseley - Trek Remedy
Valloire Round 3
Jared Graves - Yeti SB66
Tracy Moseley - Trek Remedy
La Thuille Round 4
Damien Oton - Devinci Spartan
Tracy Moseley - Trek Remedy
Winter Park Round 5
Jared Graves - Yeti SB6C (Prototype)
Anne-Caroline-Chausson - Ibis Mojo
Whistler Round 6
Jared Graves - Yeti SB6C (Prototype)
Cécile Ravanel - GT Force
Finale Ligure Round 7
Fabien Barel - Canyon Spectral
Anne-Caroline-Chausson - Ibis Mojo
2015Rotorua Round 1
Jerome Clementz - Cannondale Jekyll
Anne-Caroline-Chausson - Ibis Mojo
Ireland Round 2
Greg Callaghan - Cube Stereo
Tracy Moseley - Trek Remedy
Glentress Round 3
Justin Leov - Trek Remedy
Tracy Moseley - Trek Remedy
Samoëns Round 4
Richie Rude - Yeti SB6C
Tracy Moseley - Trek Remedy
Whistler Round 5
Richie Rude - Yeti SB6C
Tracy Moseley - Trek Remedy
Ainsa Round 6
Richie Rude - Yeti SB6C
Tracy Moseley - Trek Remedy
Finale Ligure Round 7
Jared Graves - Yeti SB6C
Tracy Moseley - Trek Remedy
2016Chile Round 1
Richie Rude - Yeti SB6C
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
Bariloche Round 2
Richie Rude - Yeti SB6C
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
Ireland Round 3
Greg Callaghan - Cube Stereo
Tracy Moseley - Trek Remedy
La Thuile Round 4
Richie Rude - Yeti SB6C
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
Aspen Round 5
Jared Graves - Specialized Stumpjumper
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
Whistler Round 6
Richie Rude - Yeti SB6C
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
Valberg Round 7
Sam Hill - Nukeproof Mega
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
Finale Ligure Round 8
Martin Maes - GT Sanction
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
2017Rotorua Round 1
Wyn Masters - GT Sanction
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
Tasmania Round 2
Adrien Dailly - Lapierre Spicy
Isabeau Courdurier - Sunn Kern
Madeira Round 3
Greg Callaghan - Cube Stereo
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
Ireland Round 4
Adrien Dailly - Lapierre Spicy
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
Millau Round 5
Adrien Dailly - Lapierre Spicy
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
Aspen Round 6
Sam Hill - Nukeproof Mega
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
Whistler Round 7
Jesse Melamed - Rocky Mountain Altitude
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
Finale Ligure Round 8
Damien Oton - Devinci Spartan
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
2018Chile Round 1
Sam Hill - Nukeproof Mega
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
Manizales Round 2
Sam Hill - Nukeproof Mega
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
Olargues Round 3
Adrien Dailly - Lapierre Spicy
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
Petzen-Jamnica Round 4
Sam Hill - Nukeproof Mega
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
La Thuile Round 5
Sam Hill - Nukeproof Mega
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
Whistler Round 6
Martin Maes - GT Force
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
Ainsa Round 7
Richie Rude - Yeti SB150
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
Finale Ligure Round 8
Richie Rude - Yeti SB150
Cécile Ravanel - Commencal Meta
2019Rotorua Round 1
Keegan Wright - Devinci Troy
Isabeau Courdurier - Intense Tracer
Tasmania Round 2
Florian Nicolai - Canyon Strive
Isabeau Courdurier - Intense Tracer
Madeira Round 3
Martin Maes - GT Force
Isabeau Courdurier - Intense Tracer
Val di Fassa Round 4
Richie Rude - Yeti SB150
Isabeau Courdurier - Intense Carbine
Les Orres Round 5
Eddie Masters - Pivot Firebird
Isabeau Courdurier - Intense Carbine
Whistler Round 6
Richie Rude - Yeti SB150
Isabeau Courdurier - Intense Carbine
Northstar Round 7
Richie Rude - Yeti SB150
Isabeau Courdurier - Intense Carbine
Zermatt Round 8
Martin Maes - GT Force
Isabeau Courdurier - Intense Prototype
2020Zermatt Round 1
Jesse Melamed - Rocky Mountain Altitude
Isabeau Courdurier - Lapierre Spicy
Pietra Ligure Round 2
Adrien Dailly - Lapierre Spicy
Melanie Pugin - BH Lynx
Finale Ligure Round 3
Jesse Melamed - Rocky Mountain Altitude
Morgane Charre - Pivot Firebird
• Wins per dollar? But salaries aren't a linear scale.
• Number of results above the riders' EWS ranks?
• Change in slope of the EWS rank trajectory curve, normalized to the riders' ages, normalized to the depth of the field (ex. number of entrants, time spread between the central two standard deviations, etc.)? Complicated, but it could work.
www.vitalmtb.com/forums/The-Hub,2/EWS-Doping-Thread-Removal,10326?page=5
I think it would also be neat to toss these stats into a multi variate regression model as independent variables, and set time on any given race course as the dependant variable and see what sort of relationships/correlations can be found. It would also be neat to add some basic geometry and body type stats in there.
I'm an analytics guy, so I love the idea, I'm just not confident we could spot the signal (the superiority of a particular piece of equipment) amidst the noise.
I am a data analytics guy as well, though I don't often admit to it.
Want to buy it? ????
oh and don't pedal while standing up. just don't lol
Unless we're talking LeBron, he would have beat Jordan.
Not taking anything away from the hardworking female racers, simply observing their dominance reminds of other sports with uber successfull teams simply because the rest of the league is low budget /low talent / low performance. ????
women do not have a smooth curve of athletic ability dispersed over the population. There tend to be a few very talented and athletically gifted women, then a bunch of women that are not. Wherein, men tend to have a more even distribution of athletic potential. what you get is 1-3 women dominating any given sport and then a whole slew of also rans that aren't competitive. go look at UCI DH times...you get the winner, then 2nd back 2-3 sec, then 3rd back 10 sec then it drops off a cliff. The Men's field? the top 20 are inside of 5 sec. lol
Plus, look at women's soccer, hockey, and basketball in the USA- a few athletes dominating a bunch of talentless wannabees.......
Sorry, I just can't get behind that theory. No doubt a few women are dominating DH and Enduro, but I really don't think that is because women are more generally (the top few excepted) less athletic. Look how far women's sports that gained wider support in the US have come in the last 20 years.
@dcaf women's sports are actually OVER funded as to their revenue. The reason no one wants to watch women's sports at the same rate that they watch men's, isn't some neanderthal desire to oppress women. It's because it is an inferior product to the corresponding men's product. See also: NBA/WNBA.
I mean, that is impressive in and of itself. But I'm pointing that out, because I'm now realizing how amazingly consistent he must be to come out on top of the whole season three times in a row, while not winning "that often" (compared to a few others). And that consistency is what is even more impressive to me. He's simply always in the running.
Yeah, I seem to remember a comment from a recap video of the last EWS race of 2019 (Zermatt IIRC), where Sam reportedly asked his mechanic/friend/someone "should I give it the berries", as the title was coming down to the last stage.
And he did. And he won.
Must be amazing to have that much "in the tank" when needed.
Test to find fastest enduro bike: enduro-mtb.com/en/enduro-race-bike-mtb-review
Insane.
29ers got off to an awkward start, with head-tube angles averaging 1° - 2° steeper than the already not-very-slack 26ers of the time, seat-tube angles slacker than the already not-very-steep 26ers, short front-centres and long rear-centres, and XC race widths of the rims, tires, and fork stanchions to keep the weight on par with 26ers.
2017 was the first year that 29er and 650b geometry converged, which is one way we could define the start of the modern 29er era.
It's no wonder some members of the EWS team were using the Stumpjumper Evo, with its lower and slacker geometry, or modifying the 29er Enduro with different shock yokes.
The 2019 update was a major change and a break from traditional Specialized numbers. Suddenly, the reach became longer than average, the seat-tube lengths were short, the chainstays were long, the anti-squat was high, and the motion ratio curve was more progressive than average.
There's a lot more than head-tube angle - more than I've discussed here - and the Enduro was conservative on almost all parameters until the latest revision. The 2017 - 2019 changes by Santa Cruz and Specialized represent some of the most dramatic modernizations in the past two decades.
Sources:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2LvORleDTM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ0xU_8L-Ao
These stats are meaningless in terms of determining what brand(s) make the best enduro bikes.
www.pinkbike.com/news/video-isabeau-courdurier-bike-check.html
It's OK saying "this bike won 22 races..." but with only 1 rider getting all 22 wins, that just tells us that rider is brilliant.
So lets see the top 5 bikes on this list, all tested back to back by a decent rider and thrown down some trails.
The data clearly supports this fact.
Commencal: hold my beer
Their formula for the bikes is pretty simple:
• Aluminum construction allows faster iteration to improve the product, especially on the DH bike
• Add enough material to ensure things don't break, with little regard for weight
• Geometry is slightly slacker than average
• Kinematic properties are safe, average values across the board
- Bold choice for a high pivot on the DH bike, but really, the bigger surprise is that more companies aren't doing this on bikes where weight and drivetrain efficiency are secondary
Carbon tooling costs a fortune and usually inhibits the ability to iterate. It's not a good look for a company to be selling a top-dollar carbon frame, while the racers are on aluminum prototypes! If the flagship products are aluminum, it's easy to make small changes without damaging the marketing of the consumer products - often without consumers even knowing. Carbon does allow inconspicuous changes to the lay-up and sometimes also to linkages or head-tube angles, but there's still pressure to delay model revision cycles to amortize the capital costs over a longer period.
I think the DH frame suffered a few "teething pains" when the high-pivot design launched - specifically, flex in the rear triangle and an overly flat motion ratio curve. Commencal was, as usual, quick to iterate, with a new swingarm or two (was there also a stiffened front triangle?), several rocker links, and air shocks available to the teams. With those issues presumably sorted, the Supreme is likely one of the fastest bikes out there. Again, no bike could account for the dominance of Pierron and Ravanel, or the overall strength of the team, but we can be pretty sure the bikes weren't holding anyone back.
So, we're left to explain the majority of Commencal's success via random chance, scouting skill, an exceptionally high budget, and / or a constructive team environment.
There are some disappointing examples from companies with both a carbon and aluminum option of the same bike, in which the aluminum option is extremely heavy. This could be due to:
• Branding efforts to make the aluminum model look the same as the carbon, which may not suit aluminum manufacturing
• A need to make the aluminum option significantly cheaper, resulting in crude materials and manufacturing
• A need to create a significant performance difference between the premium and basic tier offerings, resulting in the aluminum frame being a lot heavier than it could've been for a small increase in cost
Solution: Don't buy those disappointing examples! There are plenty of aluminum frames at reasonable (for the bike industry) prices with performance that partially overlaps the carbon end of the spectrum. Get yourself a direct-to-consumer aluminum frame, spec it with RockShox Select+ suspension and Deore components, and you'll have a bike that's close to carbon superbike performance (albeit a few pounds heavier) at less than half the price.
You have raised some very good points and you have stated lots of reasons that justify my hatred for carbon.
Firstly, we are being ripped off for the stuff. It's around 70 years old yet we still get fed the bullsh*t line "it's labour intensive you know" it's utter bollox. I rode a carbon super bike on a demo day which was well over double the price of my high spec, strong, durable, dependable aluminum bike. It rode 5% better at the most!!!! It was a little bit stiffer!! If it's double the price I expect it to ride twice as good but it just doesn't its a rip off.
Also, this absolute total utter lie that carbon is stronger. In the REAL world with REAL riding it isn't and NEVER has been. In fact it is actually weaker. I have seen, witnessed and experienced this on many occasions in my 30 years of riding. What is worst there are always god knows how many excuses as to why it fails. "It was a pre production model", "The layer up was done incorrectly, it won't happen again", "It was the wrong type of riding ". The worst is....." "You over tightened the bolts!!" if carbon is stronger it should not make the blindest bit of difference if you over tighten the bolts. I've been doing that for 30 years on metal components and never had a failure as a result. The fact is it is never the fault of the carbon as the industry would have to admit it has told lies for years and years.
It's getting a real shame that metal bikes are becoming less and less nowadays and I applaud people like Commencal, Cotic, Banshee etc who refuse to use the bloody stuff.
So despite that will go against everyone who are fans of the black plasticy stuff I don't care. I will never buy anything carbon on a Mountain Bike (maybe a bottle holder) and Mountain Bikes should be made of metal as far as I am concerned.
The big picture is that every top-of-the-line product is deep into the territory of diminishing returns. A multi-million-dollar "hypercar" isn't several times better than a half-million-dollar "supercar". The former surely has a load of cutting-edge technology, but in terms of the actual experience of ownership, it's likely at $50,000 Caterham Super 7 is more enjoyable. There are many motivations, though. Some people are satisfied with what the product does in realistic situations; these people would be happy with a good, modestly-priced option. Some people appreciate technology for its own sake. Others are insecure they may be missing out if they don't have "the best". These latter groups are less concerned about the same metrics for return on investment that you may value.
As you discovered in your test ride on a superbike, there's a lot more to a bike than what it's made from. The right geometry and the right suspension properties are paramount, and there are component upgrades with higher return on investment than frame material. Carbon frames do have the potential to offer higher performance, but only once some other items have been addressed.
Failure rates for carbon and aluminum frames are in the same ballpark. Neither is impervious to damage, and neither is failing at an alarming rate. Some specific bikes have high failure rates, but that's due to the design or the manufacturing, not the material.
I'm not sure I agree that metal bikes are becoming scarce. Most companies that offer carbon frames also offer aluminum frames. For every carbon-only frame, there's usually an aluminum frame available from a different brand with similar fit and kinematics.
I think we'll see a lot more carbon when additive manufacturing matures. It will eventually reach a point where the equipment and software will become affordable for "garage builders" or even home hobbyists, leading to profound changes in the industry.
answer: commencal
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