New Bikes and Prototypes - Eurobike 2015

Aug 25, 2015
by Mike Kazimer  
Ghost 2016

Ghost PathRIOT

The name may be a little strange – PathRIOT brings to mind crowds of angry rollerbladers squaring off against lycra clad joggers – but despite what my overactive imagination thinks, this is Ghost's latest entry into the enduro race market, with a full carbon frame and 150mm of rear travel matched with a 170mm fork up front. The bike's burly spec reflects its intentions, and the top of the line PathRIOT 10 model comes with a Climb Switch equipped Cane Creek Double Barrel Coil, a FOX 36 Float, SRAM XX1 drivetrain, and a Schwalbe Magic Mary / Rock Razor tire combo.

The 27.5” wheeled bike's head angle is 66.5°, which is a little steeper than some of the other contenders in this category, but the Ghost was displaying a model with a Cane Creek AngleSet installed, an easy solution for riders looking for something even slacker. Other key geometry numbers include a 460mm reach on the size large, a 425mm chainstay length, and a 75.5° degree seat angle. The PathRIOT 10 will retail for € 6499, and the PathRIOT 8 will be € 4999.

Ghost RoamR

Ghost ROAMR

The ROAMR is a concept bike, a rolling test sled that Ghost can use to experiment with different ideas, including a Pinion gearbox drivetrain. Ghost place the 27.5” wheeled bike in what they call the “enduro overland” category, since its 160mm of travel is more than enough to deal with whatever obstacles may come its way, but features like a dynamo front hub that connects to a USB port below the stem's topcap for charging lights or other accessories hint that this isn't your run of the mill all-mountain rig.

Ghost have even developed frame and seat bags to go along with the ROAMR for bikepacking adventures deep into the burliest terrain around. One of the bike's designers will be piloting the ROAMR from Eurobike's location in Friedrichshafen, Germany, back to his home in Madrid, Spain, a journey that should provide plenty of opportunities to put it to the test. How much does the bike weigh? The exact amount wasn't available, but let's just say it's not exactly light.

Ghost 2016
A Pinion gearbox drivetrain drain means there's no rear derailleur to snag on rocks or get clogged with mud.
Ghost 2016
Take a closer look above the bike's stem and you'll see the location of a USB port that's powered by the dynamo front hub.



Nicolai

Nicolai ION GPI Pro

Nicolai had their latest gearbox bike on display, the 155mm ION GPI Pro. The bike's geometry was developed in conjunction with MOJO Suspension's Chris Porter, which means that it has an extraordinarily long reach, a steep seat tube angle of 77.7°, and a super slack 63.5° head angle in the bike's low setting. Available in three sizes: long, longer, and longest, the idea behind the geometry is to keep the rider more centered between the bike's wheels, a concept that's said to make it easier for a rider to get their weight over the front of the bike on steep terrain without feeling like they're going to pitch over the bars.

Nicolai
The longest size in the range has a reach of 520mm and a sprawling wheelbase of 1309mm.
Nicolai
12 speeds are delivered by Pinion's belt-driven gearbox.



Cayon Stitch 720

Canyon Stitched 720

First seen under the likes of Canyon's slopestyle athletes Thomas Genon, Anton Thelander, and Peter Henke, the Stitched 720 is going into production for 2016. Purpose built for flipping and spinning, the aluminum framed 26” bike uses a concentric pivot around the bottom bracket, which allows it to easily be run as a single speed. The market for such a specialty machine is fairly small, which is why Canyon initially only be offering one size. Pricing is still to be determined.

Cayon Stitch 720
The Stitched's horizontal dropouts have a built in chain tensioner.
Cayon Stitch 720
The rear shock passes through a split in the bike's seattube - the entire frame has been built to be as stiff as possible.



Radon Slide 170

Radon Swoop 170

Hanging in Radon's booth was a prototype version of their upcoming Swoop 170. Due to hit stores in March 2016, the bike has a three position flip chip found at the lower shock mount that allows the head angle to be adjusted from 64.9 to 65.9 degrees. The geometry has been updated from the previous 26" Swoop 175, with a very roomy reach of 465mm on the size medium. The bike will have a Boost 148 rear end, and routing to run Shimano's Side-Swing front derailleur. As to whether or not a carbon version is in the works, Radon certainly haven't ruled it out.




130 Comments

  • + 174
 So instead of having a rear derailleur to get snagged in rocks and mud, we now have a bb derailleur to get snagged in rocks and mud
  • + 56
 You mean completely pulverised when you (or I, or the next guy) case that double and mash it into the ground because we're mountain bikers and mountain bikers do stupid things like that. The state of my bike's cranks, pedals and bash guard say that's not a great place for a mech to hang.
  • + 16
 PS. I want that Nicolai, gimme my teutonic monster truck damnit!
  • + 28
 To be fair, the rear suspension is going to usually be compressed in that sort of situation, and thus the chain will grow and that mech will be more out of the way.
  • + 12
 Swoop There it is!
  • + 9
 Why does the mech need to be so long? Does the bike really have ~2 inches of chain growth? The pedal feedback must be unbearable if that's really the case. It seems like they could have gotten away with a single pulley pushing up or down on the chain like on that Nicolai gearbox bike right below it.
  • + 3
 haha in santa cruz that bb derailleur would be broken on a log in no time
  • + 11
 The gearbox is smaller than the chainring so the taco/bashguard/chainring would take most of the abuse before the gearbox gets a hit and it is most likely the same for the dual pulley setup.

I don't know about you but all my downtubes are intact while I have an ever growing collection of broken derailleurs so I would gladly make the switch even if that meant gaining 5 pounds on my bike. The premium will pay for itself by not having to buy derailleurs/hangers again.
  • + 1
 I can see this getting ripped off in the first ride. All it takes is failing to get your chain ring high enough over a log, and that pinion system is gone. I have smashed my chain ring on logs more than a couple of times, so I can't see how putting a mechanical devise just below the chain ring is a good idea.
  • + 5
 Yikes! I missed that i my first scan of the photos and was all "WTF is PB complaining about now?" scrolls up> Holy low balls
  • + 20
 dont be so quick to hate. gearboxes are what we need, they may look bulky but they offer more clearance in every aspect than a traditional der/chainring setup. have you seen older gearbox designs? given enough time to mature and develop they will become even less bulky. the pros of a gearbox far outweigh the cons when compared to a derailleur. in my opinion at least
  • + 10
 It's a tensioner Not a mech
  • - 2
 after a few decades I witnessed ONE gear box drivetrain on trails. It turned out I know him and he was convinced it was the way to go and applied it to a Yeti. I cried for a week and severed my relationship.
  • + 1
 In anywhere it would be broken on a log in no time!
  • + 2
 When did pinions lose 6 gears and become available with belt drives on squishy bikes? Pity such tech won't trickle down since no one with cash actually buys them.
  • + 8
 it's a chain tensioner that folds backwards? when you hit something it will move...... just like it's designed to do against the chain growth. when something hits it, chain goes slack for a second, roll on and it will spring back
  • + 1
 could they not do something a-la Canfield where there is an idler wheel above the chainring, but which is tensioned and can spring enough to stop any slack under compression? Even what they have now but a bit sturdier to take all the strain on the top of the chainring.
  • + 1
 why wouldn't they just put the tensioner back near the dropout like on a SS conversion? It's much more protected back there.

Idk, it's a minor point in the grand scheme. I don't think that thing is as damage-prone as people are making it out to be here. but it doesn't make much sense to me to put it where they did.
  • + 1
 I love my bicycle as is, but a pinion friendly frame with short chainstays would be a forever bike for me.
  • + 0
 GHOST could have designed a zero-growth rear linkage that wouldn't require a mech at all. But they didn't and now the bike sucks.
  • + 1
 Radon Strive???
  • + 67
 That Canyon looks so so clean!
  • + 6
 it didn't notice there was a shock at the first sight !! realy looked like an hardtail
  • + 9
 If only they sold to the USA... also way to not mention Tomas Lemoine pinkbike...
  • + 9
 A true work of art. I love how the chainstays look like a perfect continuation of the top tube. Bike-boner...
  • + 4
 Canyon are really kicking ass these days. I guess that's what happens when you have that dealer margin to play with.
  • - 4
flag csermonet (Aug 25, 2015 at 22:17) (Below Threshold)
 bikekrieg - i think you mean seat stays, if the chain stays looked like a continuation of the top tube that would be one f*cked up frame. and the Radon is much more in line with what I think you had in mind.
  • + 3
 Those perfectly aligned lines... Masterpiece design.
  • - 2
 Canyons look great, but they weight a lot, it is the only reason I haven't pulled the trigger on one, I have to either purchase the top of the line Canyon to keep the weight low or if I want to save I have to compromise weight. I don't I am a weight wennie. I just don't want to purchase a bike that is heavier than the one I already have and hindrance the uphills. I am talking about either the spectral or the strive.
  • + 1
 You may be right, but I mean the Stitched 720. It's best looking slope bike on the market imo. And slope riders doesn't care 'bout weight that much. Don't think this frame weights much more than other models of this type on the market
  • + 56
 Yes gearbox bikes! I want one!!!
  • - 48
flag Peds223 (Aug 25, 2015 at 14:25) (Below Threshold)
 Just get a motorbike dude,Smile
  • + 37
 I have one. It is not as fun as Mtb. Gearboxes just replace derailleurs. They don't add motors.
  • - 12
flag Peds223 (Aug 26, 2015 at 2:31) (Below Threshold)
 I best sling my mountain bike in the trash then. I don't want a gearbox on my bike, yes it may have advantages,progressive it maybe,but how far do you want mountain biking to progress?. Soon enough the question of electric motors in hubs as standard will come along,at which point we will be able to say we have come full circle,all the way back to the motorbike.
  • + 10
 @Peds223 "all the way back to the motorbike"? The motorcycle was just a bicycle with a motor at first. Just sayin'. Also gearbox=/=motor. Whatever the drivetrain is the bike is still human-powered.
  • + 4
 @Peds223 You obviously have no Idea what a gear box is. A gear box is basically the derailluer and cassette in one package. ITS NOT MOTORIZED.
  • - 3
 Didnt say the gearbox was motorized,read the post dude, was on about electric motors in rear hubs,couple it with your mechanical gearbox, and call it a motorbike.
  • + 4
 you realize your derailleur and cassette constitute a drivetrain right? Basically it is a simple highly efficient transmission. How's that motorcycle working for you?
Gearboxes don't make bike motorcycles. Motors do that.
  • - 2
 He was just saying that bikes are getting more and more "techy". I'm with him on that. We already have bikes with electrical engines and imo they are just stupid. They can stuff electronics into bikes all they want, but I don't want to be anywhere close to them.
  • + 2
 @Hetman64 @Peds223 The reason for electric drivetrains for bikes was never meant to replace the standard, They are purely designed for the Handicapped crowd. People with physical disabilties will appreciate the assistance of the electric motor BUT if a normal guy rides an E bike then he's just lazy.
  • + 3
 I wonder if there was so much complaint the first time someone strapped a motor to a bicycle. It isnt a bad thing. I just isnt biking.
  • + 35
 gearbox bikes, sweet. a belt driven gearbox, even sweeter
  • + 10
 Yea, & with the tensioner, might actually be easier to set up than your average belt bike. Too bad it's limited edition, only sold in Britain thing. Yes, we all want gearboxes, sell them to us, you hosers.
  • + 1
 if that system is as efficient and light as a normal derailleur set up then they could be onto something.
  • + 4
 I know one of the setups I saw(this one had a suspension that pivoted around the BB to maintain belt tension) they claimed they went belt specifically because it brought them to within spiting distance of a derailleur drive-train, weight wise.
  • - 1
 It's over kilo heavier. Not a spitting distance if you ask me.
  • + 8
 Nicolai, plz stop it... i can get only so erect...
  • + 2
 It's the first time I saw a belt driven drivetrain on a fully without a concentric pivot.
  • + 1
 groghunter it is not only sold in britain and not limited. This is the new ION GPI and not the limited Mojo from last year.
  • + 1
 Ah, my mistake, mea culpa. The extra long chassis made me think it was the mojo.
  • + 15
 That Radon looks like a Strive. Which is not bad.
  • + 2
 I was getting more and more excited as I read the travel and geo numbers, then BOOST killed it. Too bad; a promising bike with good looks and good suspension.
  • + 1
 that's exactly what I thought!
  • + 10
 That Nicolai would look lovely if you chopped off the front end and stuck it back on a few centimetres back
  • + 1
 Longer & slacker is the trend and Nicolai or should I say Chris Porter have taken it to the next level (beyond Mondraker)! I'd definitely would love to try it out!
  • + 10
 CCDB CS Coil please. And I love nicolai but that one looks like it's been in a horrible accident
  • + 6
 Nicolai were always about function, so for them to build something with such extreme geo means that they found it works. The aesthetic result is also quite aggressive, albeit on the industrial side of things.

I can't say the same for the rest of the german brands. With the arrival of F.Barrel Canyon closely copied the lines of Mondraker trailbikes (seatstays follow the line of the top tube, angled susp link etc). Radon seems to follow closely too now.

Same can be said for a lot of companies actually. I'm sure the bikes ride fine, but paint them all matte black and most of us would have a hard time telling one from another. Yawn.
  • + 7
 Canyon Stitched 720 looks like a dream bike to me. Only comes in one size? I bet it is never my size.... not that I would buy it anyway Frown
  • + 3
 one size for slopetyle bro
  • - 3
 dirt jump bikes are always one size
  • + 8
 What about the Knolly Warden Carbon?
  • + 24
 There's still three more days left of Eurobike... Stay tuned.
  • + 6
 haha i know @mikekazimer, just playin. Knolly teased us on facebook so I got excited
  • + 11
 And the new Banshees!!
  • + 7
 ^YES!!!!..BANSHEE BANSHEE BANSHEE.....please
  • + 6
 Or the new Evil?
  • + 4
 YES YES YES on the gearbox bike. And the first photo of the Chost—damn, THIS is the bike I've been waiting for. I hate the look of fat hydroformed/carbon tubes; this one takes the minimalist approach to the logical end. I love it! The only thing I don't like is the blood-splattered graphics.
  • + 2
 Like the steep seat angle on that Nicolai and I like that it's not a steep "effective" angle with a much less inclined interrupted seat tube. I'm a tall rider and it bugs the sh!t out of me to be hanging way far back when my seatpost is extended for climbing. I want the seat forward for climbing and back for descending, but seatpost angles actually give the opposite, which is magnified for taller riders!
  • + 1
 whou?
  • + 2
 Gear box drive trains will be the future. Centre the weight at the BB, use a simple 2 speed internal rear hub to get range back most need and a protected system means not replacing it once, twice or more per year. If you really think a standard crank and BB would survive casing a jump or hitting something hard enough to destroy that Pinion gear box you need to have a word with yourself. A hit like that would crush your chainring, spider and likely BB axle as well. As for weight and shift performance goes the gear boxes will best the derailleurs if Sram and Shimano put their minds to it. The mid drive compatible frame type will spur the use of internal hubs like the Alfine as a gear box. Gravity has already done this on their DH bike where the Alfine is mounted higher near the seat tube top tube joint. I don't know why people are so closed minded to a drive train that would last more than 6 months without a major rebuild but Sram and Shimano love you for it. Start thiking more about whats good for you instead of whats good for Shimano and Sram sales.
  • + 2
 All this online only European brands are the proof that our economy is still f*cked up,so they want us to belive online is cool now. Anybody cares for a barely used Tarmac Sworks 2015 ? ( shittest bike ever owned anyway..)
  • + 5
 ive never seen a canyon that i wouldn't give my first born to have
  • + 5
 Raffle time for the canyon, thanks pb. You're the best Wink
  • + 1
 More details on the Nicolai / Mojo 'Geometron' bikes can be found here

www.mojo.co.uk/mojo_nicolai_geometron

I'm currently on my second Nicolai (a Helius AC 29er), and I find this concept interesting, but as someone has already said above I would need to try one first. The trails around here are pretty tight steep and twisty in places and my gut feeling is the super long Mojo bikes would be a bit of a handful. Would love to know for sure though.
  • + 1
 I would also love to try one out!
  • + 1
 I believe the next best thing that's going to happen in mountain bike technology is this: wireless - electronic - gearbox - that is going recharge itself while pedalling. No derallieurs, no cables.. Maybe the Germans are on to it by now.
  • + 2
 that switched 720 looks tight.. gonna do a ss build this winter and was thinking about a ns soda slope but now its all up in the air...
  • + 4
 Anything new from Santacruz?
  • + 4
 There's a picture floating around that looks like it has a Nomad style upper link and rear triangle but the shock mounts to the top tube like a Bronson. Most likely the next generation Bronson. Guessing it is released sometime this week.
  • + 4
 anyone got a link to the spyshots?
  • + 1
 Here's the link to the spy shot. imgur.com/gI08PJj
  • + 0
 thats just a nomed
  • + 1
 nope look where the shock mounts
  • + 1
 oh yea...
  • + 4
 There is no way I would buy that Nicolai without trying it first
  • + 4
 Please bring canyon bikes to the U.S.!!!
  • + 3
 CanYonn!! Ayyy thats a Damn gud looken bike
  • + 1
 Having ridden a Nicolai with a Pinion gearbox, you'd have to purposely aim to do damage to it. Even then, your more likely to injure yourself before the Pinion.
  • + 2
 Why are they pushing this BOOST thing so hard? It's getting ridicules, no one wants it!
  • + 1
 So u need to buy new wheels and forks.
  • + 2
 Is it just me or the frame of the carbon Ghost looks a lot like the new carbon Mondraker Dune ?
  • + 2
 Eurobike is a freak show!
  • + 2
 those ghost bikes are cool!!!!
  • + 2
 when are the 2016 Mega's coming out!!
  • + 3
 And new Yetis???
  • + 3
 yeah with the switch infinity 2, the world is waiting
  • + 2
 Bring us the insurgent candidate please!
  • + 1
 These bikes are just ugly. check out Zerode they make the best and sexiest gear-box bikes.
  • + 2
 It's so good to see that 26" bikes are still relevant.
  • + 2
 great until I read BOOST 148
  • + 1
 Not one f.cking derailleur in sight. YES!
Wonder if the Ghost roamer will make it to production?
  • + 1
 Nicolai might be suffering from a belt growth Big Grin Now seriously, how would chainstay growth affect the belt?
  • + 1
 That canyon looks exactly like their hartail. No wonder why Genon and Lemoine shred so hard at Joyride
  • + 1
 There's so much bike porn in this gallery it should have been marked as NSFW...
  • + 1
 1309mm wheelbase...Holy gwin
  • + 1
 I wonder what the Nicolai weights.
  • + 1
 I threw-up a little when I saw that Nicolai, lol
  • + 1
 Let's see Canyon's new Strive...
  • + 1
 Where are the Banshees????????
  • + 1
 Make that Radon in Carbon. So slick looking...
  • + 1
 Dear god. 520mm reach is insane.
  • + 1
 Canyon gets better and better
  • + 1
 Credit to Nicolai/Mojo for producing such really rad designs.
  • + 0
 Nicolai has pretty cool features and all, but its god damn fugly... as fuck
  • + 1
 Radon for reach domination. I like.
  • + 1
 465mm reach for a medium on that Radon, thats enormous.
  • + 2
 Stiched 720 pls.
  • + 1
 Impressed by how ugly these bikes are.
  • + 1
 So many solutions to problems we don't have.
  • + 1
 Stoked on gearboxes, still not sure about belt drive on an MTB though.
  • + 1
 Legit!
  • + 1
 holy cheez 1309mm
  • + 1
 .Stitched 720.
  • + 0
 Give up on the gearbox drive train already. What a waste.
  • + 1
 Yeah cause Fuck finding ways to innovate new and effective ways to improve a mountain bike
  • + 0
 All German!
  • - 2
 That Ghost doesn't leave a lot of room to slam the seat post down, big fail imo.
  • + 0
 Assuming that you rode the bike.
  • - 2
 All look great apart from the carbon one. That one can go suck my balls!! The rest look ace especially the Nicolai
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