New Specialized 2FO 2.0 Flat Pedal Shoes - Review

Aug 1, 2017
by AJ Barlas  
Specialized 2FO 2.0 Review AJ Barlas
  Specialized 2FO 2.0

Specialized are today releasing their brand new flat pedal shoes, the 2FO 2.0 (reviewed here) and the 2FO 1.0. The 2.0 is the more robust of the pair while the 1.0 targets more of the value conscious riders that perhaps aren’t as hard on their kicks.

The shoes are available in sizes 38–49 and have been redesigned in an effort to provide more grip and more pedal feel than their predecessor. MSRP for the 2.0 is $150 USD and the 1.0 is $110 USD.

Specialized 2FO 2.0 Shoe Details (Tested)
• Slipnot 2.0 rubber
• Newly engineered lug pattern
• Ergonomic sole
• Dual-density midsole
• Breathable tongue and uppers
• Weight: 347 grams (claimed per shoe, size 42)
• MSRP: $150 USD
www.specialized.com
Specialized 2FO 1.0 Shoe Details
• Slipnot 2.0 rubber
• Newly engineered lug pattern
• Ergonomic sole
• Internal neoprene bootie
• Dual-density midsole
• Breathable tongue and uppers
• Weight: 315 grams (claimed per shoe, size 42)
• MSRP: $110 USD
www.specialized.com

Specialized 2FO 1.0
  Specialized's new $110 USD 2FO 1.0 shoe.


Construction

When Specialized first jumped into flat pedal shoes in 2014 they brought a much needed fresh outlook to a number of key attributes for them. Most notable of these was a shoe that didn’t sponge up water and become a heavy, soggy mess attached to the bottom of a rider's leg, and then take a week to dry out. Unfortunately, they didn’t really hit home with traction and pedal feel, two points that Specialized now admit themselves, and at the end of the day, who cares if your feet are dry if they fly off your pedals at the slightest hint of bump in the trail.

For the new shoes, Specialized worked extensively with Coastal Crew riders, Curtis Robinson and Dylan Dunkerton to develop something that they all felt was a good balance of traction, feel, and durability. Specialized say they went full nerd in the process, and given that they strapped the guys up with a pressure mapping system enabling them to see how the footbeds were interacting with the pedals, and how the construction of the uppers and midsole would affect this, I would tend to agree.

Specialized 2FO 2.0 Review AJ Barlas
  The sole of the new 2FO features more prominent lugs than the old shoe.

Specialized 2FO 2.0 Review AJ Barlas
The recesses at the toe of the shoe have been changed given the overall more aggressive lugs over the entire sole.
Specialized 2FO 2.0 Review AJ Barlas
Same goes for the heel of the updated shoe, with less surface area featuring the large recess.

The team notes that they tested for 18 months and there were over 12 variations of rubber compounds. Combined with midsole and upper construction development there were over 18 variations of the shoes before the team arrived at their happy place. The new shoes feature an updated sole with plenty of attention put into the lugs—gone is the mostly flat surface from the old shoe—and how they engage with the pedal pins when weighted, as well as the rubber itself. The upper of the shoes has added material in key areas that see a lot of wear—spots like the inside ankle area, where scuffing against cranks and stays is very common, and they also used a flat-pressed foam in the toe-box area, to help soften the blow when your foot jams into the front of the shoe. The materials used are still supposed to be rugged, but exhibit more flexibility than the old version as well. So after 18 months testing and a lot of science, does it all work out to a good shoe on the trail?


Performance

The fit of the shoes is a little different to the predecessor and we would say more true to size. In the old model, I required an 11.75 US (45.5 EU) shoe to be left with what was still a pretty tight fit, while my Five Ten and casual shoes are normally a 10.5–11 US max. Both of the new 2.0 and 1.0 2FO shoes in an 11.5 US (45 EU) are quite a bit roomier on my foot than the previous shoe in its slightly bigger size. The new shoes have me wanting to size back down to an 11 US for a better fit and our other tester went with his regular shoe size and said that they're good and although a tad tighter than he would have expected, they fit fine.

The 1.0 features a lighter upper with what seemed like more breathability, while the 2.0 is firmer in the upper thanks to materials that are a little tougher in an effort to achieve a more durable shoe. We can’t comment on pedal feel or riding in both shoes as we’ve only ridden in the 2.0, but I personally am interested to see how the 1.0’s more flexible upper translates to the trail.

Specialized 2FO 2.0 Review AJ Barlas
  The 2FO 2.0's upper remains durable, but is lighter and more flexible than the previous iteration, making it more comfortable to wear.

We’ve been testing the 2.0 shoe on a number of different pedals. The range includes the Deity T-Mac, Nukeproof Horizon, and Specialized’s Boomslang and Atlas pedals. For the first couple of rides, the shoes felt a little stiff and cumbersome, offering what seemed pretty similar to the pedal feel of the old 2FO’s. However, once they began to break in—at about half-a-dozen rides—the pedal feel improved considerably.

That feel has yet to get to a point where it feels too thin, but for those that enjoy the feel of the Five Ten Freerider or similar, you likely won't get on well with the 2FO. For each of us that tested the 2.0, we found feel to be pretty good once broken in—for reference, we’re each coming from Five Ten Freerider Pros. While pedal feel has improved a lot, traction is still a bit of a problem. The shoes definitely provide more grip than the previous version thanks to the combination of the redesigned tread pattern providing more meat for the pins to dig against and the improved rubber, so we’ve found their claim there to be true. However, they still left us in situations on the trails where our feet would be wandering on the pedal.

Specialized 2FO 2.0 Review AJ Barlas
  The difference in the sole design from the old, to the new.

Specialized 2FO 2.0 Review AJ Barlas
The old 2FO shoe's inside compared to the new version.
Specialized 2FO 2.0 Review AJ Barlas
Comparing the old outboard side of the shoe to the new.

On smoother trails or when dirt jumping, the shoe’s traction was sufficient, but as soon as they were taken down a section of trail with plenty of feedback from roots and rock, things took a turn for the worse. Rather than being able to focus on the incoming onslaught from the trail, we found we would be battling against losing our footing, on top of what the terrain was throwing at us.

I found these shoes to perform better when mated with the Nukeproof Horizon pedals, which was surprising to me given the success that I normally experience with Deity's T-Macs. The platform for the T-Mac’s seemed too big for the sole of the 2FO 2.0’s, which have a narrower footprint than the Freerider Pro’s that I have been spending a lot of time on lately. Our other tester found no difference between the Boomslang and Atlas pedals, with each providing the same experience.


Pinkbike's Take

bigquotesSpecialized’s new 2FO 2.0 definitely improved over the previous model. They provide more grip, have a better pedal feel, and the materials are more comfortable around the foot. Unfortunately, the traction still can’t match that of Five Ten, especially if you like to be really well connected to your pedals in rowdy trail situations. However, if you like more freedom to move your foot around or tend to ride smoother trails, even spend most of your time on jump trails, then the 2FO 2.0 is definitely something to try on.AJ Barlas




MENTIONS: @Specialized




131 Comments

  • + 70
 Will probably last longer than 5 10s though
  • + 17
 my original 2F0's are still going strong- grip I have found is savage. Burgtec Mk4 Penthouses help there naturally. Would absolutely recommend them. And they dry in no time. Machine washing is no problem. Can't fault them personally.
  • + 2
 @nickkk: My originals are just coming to the end of their life now. With DMR Mg Vaults they seemed to grip well. The only thing I didn't like about them was that they're black and pick up a lot of heat in the summer.
  • + 3
 @korev: interesting. Not a problem I've found in the NW of England and Scotland! The black has assisted with drying outside though so you might be on to something.. not had an issue on the feet though personally.
  • + 3
 Ive had my 10s for two years now, no problems what so ever, infact still intact and thats using them as a daily and for weekend riding
  • + 27
 Yeah the quality of 5 10s is pretty low after adidas acquired them. I have 5.10s from 2009 and after 6 year of use they look better than new Sam Hill version after two. Josh Bryceland is still riding old karver model
  • + 18
 My original 5:10's are still "together" after 5 years of hard use. They are on their last legs, but DAMN, for all I've done to them, they still hold on and my girlfriend can use them.

Problem is, I replaced them with a set of new 5:10's and they are already falling apart. Strange... perhaps their quality has decreased of late.
  • + 6
 @AdamOdh: this type of report- amongst many other questionable reports of 510's poor quality control is what swung me to the 2FO in 2014. I'm not in the lofty position of being able to sink £150 on a pair of riding shoes a season because they've started to fall apart, and for all the fan boying with 510, this seems to dog them in every review I could find, even in these comments! I don't doubt they function well- they lead the market for good reason- but the build quality of Spesh clothing over 20 years for me has been faultless. They take a hammering.
  • + 6
 My 2FOs are a year old and will need replacing soon as the soles have deep gouges from my pedal pins which allow my feet to move around whilst riding. I had Impact VXIs before and they lasted about the same length of time before the soles wore through and started to peel off.

Makes me wonder whether it's just to be accepted that the trade off for having a grippy shoe with a soft enough rubber is that the sole is going to wear out after about a year or so of fairly frequent use, although maybe you could maximise the sole's lifetime by changing pedals/pin position once they start to get worn.
  • + 6
 @dingus: "Makes me wonder whether it's just to be accepted that the trade off for having a grippy shoe with a soft enough rubber is that the sole is going to wear out after about a year or so of fairly frequent use"

I think that's on the money.
  • + 1
 @flowmotiontours: That's discouraging to hear. I've had my freeriders since late 2011, and they are just now looking like they need replacing. I had hoped I could get the exact same thing again.... looks like maybe not.
  • + 2
 @dingus: you must ride like me. (squirmy dancing feet on the peddles) same thing happened with mine, but the uppers are so bombroof i just sent them onto feetfirst.com to re-sole with original 5-10 stealth (MI5) rubber they did an amazing job and I will be doing that with all my riding shoes from now on. £50 a pair its a lot of money for an old shoe but cheaper than a new pair .......with the added bonus of not needing to break em in. @nickkk i also did this with my newer and shitter style 5.10 xvi's , "feetfirst" removed the mi6 rubber and replaced with mi5.
  • + 3
 @AdamOdh: At a recent bike festival, I showed my 1 year old Freeriders to the 5 10 rep in front of a crowd. He was pretty smooth and said that I should just send them in for a warranty repair and that they would honor any defects if the shoes were "reasonably old". So they seem to be aware of quality issues - least at the regional sales level.

I agree that the quality is low - parts are becoming unglued. I thought about sending them in, but before doing that I spent a few minutes using some superglue to "fix" it. It seems to have held up well after a month of riding. Is having your customers use superglue to fix your products acceptable? Hell no! But it is faster and more convenient than sending them in for warranty replacement!
  • + 4
 Someone needs to tell Five Ten to start using Goop or Shoe Goo to glue their soles. I'm sure it comes down to the long cure time vs the instant bond of that thin layer of contact adhesive they must use. Time is money in production.

My five tens lasted 5 months before the rubber sole came completely unglued. Used the plumbing version of Goop from the local home improvement store and they have been going strong the last 12 months. Is it ridiculous that I have come to accept this as normal? Yes. But the grip is just so damn good that it is worth it to me.
  • + 2
 @newenglandrocks: You know, I'm having a thought...maybe there's a really good use for all those old (but not totally destroyed) tires I have lying around. Sure, it might "look ghetto" but I'm all about reusing things in novel ways rather than throwing them away. If you're confused; I'm talking about resoling shoes with tire treads. Call me crazy, but it seems like it's worth a try. Thanks for the inspiration
  • + 1
 @AdamOdh: I've been snatching Karvers up if they're still available. Just had my original pair blow up after 3 seasons, just switched to a new pair
  • + 1
 5 10s are dumping the Mi6 compound thats on the Vxi impact because of the problems with it .
  • + 1
 I've put thousands of miles and many years on mine. They don't look pretty but they work.
  • + 2
 @nickkk: I agree, I've the original 2fo's and love them. Just done pivot twenty four/12 in mine this weekend, full of mud they were but dried out faster than all my mates 5.10s and stuck em in the washing machine Monday and used them Tuesday morning as they were bone dry. Grip is good with the right peddle (nano X) but a bit too breathable come winter.
  • + 1
 @ballardski: yeah, that's good to hear. Its interesting they've addressed the ingress of water in this new version too. In winter with a sealskin sock, I've never had cold feet though.
  • + 1
 I've got the new freerider pros and they seem to be holding up much better than the Vxi's i bought a couple years ago... Anyone having issues with new freerider pros?
  • + 3
 @dhx42: I've been riding the Freerider Pro since December. No issues. The shoe's been rock solid.
  • + 1
 @dingus: Ever bought racing tires? Yes, grip equals wear. The more grip, the softer the material and quicker the tire/shoe will wear out. The Mi6 rubber wears the most and is has the most grip.
  • + 28
 How is it possible that a whole industry can't match the level of grip offered by one brand? Bikes, suspension, wheels... top offers from many brands are pretty much on equal level, but flat pedal shoes soles? No way. Makes me scratch my head.
  • + 5
 It blows my mind there isn't just one perfect bike shoe that everyone likes. So many reiterations, and brands, what's the problem!? These guys even used fricking footbed pressure sensing technology to f*ck up. It blows my mind, but also makes you realize everybody is special, which is a hard, and annoying lesson for a man like myself. Nobody wants to say you're special, but you are.
  • + 26
 5.10 are rubber compound masters from decades spent making climbing shoes
  • - 21
flag srghyc (Aug 1, 2017 at 6:11) (Below Threshold)
 I just got 5 10's and won't purchase them again. Not that they're bad, but just unimpressive. My Nike SB's have had just as good if not better grip. The Nike's look better and are more durable too.
  • + 7
 @srghyc: I used to ride in vans/Nike sb/etnies and as the grip was good I never really thought about trying 510. A friend convinced me and I gave it a try this year and I bought a pair of 5.10 freerider. The difference in grip is not really impressive when riding on a road/non technical trail, but the fact the sole is more rigid really helps to maintain a stable and improved grip on the pedal in root/rock gardens. I have them for 2 months so I can't talk about durability but so far I would not go back to regular skate shoes.
  • + 1
 @zede: Interesting. My experience has been different. Always used skate style shoes then got 5.10's and wore them on a rental Glory at Trestle Bike Park and on my own bike in Bentonville, AR. They didn't improve grip over my past Nikes or Etnies. The only only noticeable difference was price tag. Love all the down votes I'm getting for not praising everyone's precious 5.10's.
  • + 11
 @srghyc: it's because you are literally the only person we have come across that thought skate shoes work as well as 5.10's. maybe you got an old pair with dried out rubber?
  • + 3
 @xeren: Perhaps.Do different models have different soles/grip? I got the gray on gray Sleuths.
  • + 5
 @srghyc: do you ride fast? Not trying to rag on you, but if you're going like 5 miles an hour on fast trails that might explain why they don't feel any grippier.
  • + 3
 @therealtylerdurden: Yeah, I'd say I go decently fast. I raced downhill, XC, and dual slalom in college. (Midwest Collegiate Cycling Conference). Any flow trail I've ridden, there's not a jump I can't clear. There's my resume, haha!
  • + 3
 @srghyc: haha! Well idk. Maybe you just prefer to wrap your foot around the pedal more than with 5.10's
  • + 2
 @srghyc: Sometimes I think that shoes with more flexible bottoms have better grip (or give the impression of it). I've been riding my back up mountain bike as my commuter for the last week or so and been wearing normal sneakers. Being able to somewhat feel the pins and twist my foot a bit makes me feel like I have a solid pedal connection vs. my stiffer mtn bike flat shoes when I'm pedaling and just messing around. When I drop my heels though, I miss the stiffer sole in terms of grip as I feel like I can keep pressure on the pedal better.
  • + 9
 @srghyc: You had the sleuths? Those are their shoes for jumps... Least grip of any 5.10 model. Try the Freerider pro's or Impact VXI's
  • + 6
 @mmmmm: You're right. It looks like they have a harder compound and I need to try the S1 compound. Thanks internet! I think we've found our discrepancy!
  • + 1
 I have been riding these for a few weeks now, and find them absolutely amazing. Very grippy (with DMR Vault pedals). Although I really liked my Shimano AM41, this is a whole new world. Never worn 5-10s (because they r too wide for my feet), but can't imagine them being much grippier than the new 2FO 2.0.
  • + 8
 My original 2fos are almost 3 years old and still going strong showing hardly any wear. Never had any problem with lack of grip apart from trying to walk on slippery trails. Find them way better than my old 510 impacts and fit much better.
  • + 5
 Unfortunately mine are coming apart after less than 1 year but I do have to agree that grip isn't a problem for me, personally I think 5.10s have too much of it and it gets hard to reposition your foot if you place it wrong.
  • + 4
 Had 2 pairs of the old ones and the grip is not good... Ok for smooth trails but inconsistent when it gets rough. I'll not be getting a new pair or even recommending them, sorry. My Adidas TrailCross have the FiveTen tech and don't fall apart. Will be getting another pair of them
  • + 2
 Heard good things about the trail crosses, they look good too. So is this your 3rd pair of shoes in 3 years? Jealous of your high milage lol
  • + 4
 @nickkk: TrailCross is so good, same grip as Freeriders, but with better support, lower weight and breathes better. And mine still look new after almost 2 seasons of hard riding.
  • + 1
 Still have them all. One pair for scruffy, one pair for wet days and the TrailCross when its dry. Have a pair of FiveTen freeriders for work too
  • + 2
 @T1mb0: the TrailCross are slightly hard to find in the USA shops but have been a success at least for this rider. I want Adidas to expand the line into heavier DH versions and even lighter, more breathable trail versions. Its such a good shoe now, I'm wondering if they put it out just as an experiment, not really planning to try and recoup investment on it but just dipping their toe in the water. Sole seems slightly less sticky than my older 5.10s although its the same rubber compound, which could be attributed to the pattern. I'm always on the lookout for a good pedaling flat-soled shoe...done with the ballet slippers.
  • + 1
 They're not easy to find in the UK either. I have to get them from Adidas' online store.
  • + 2
 i have the old 2fo's and a pair of trail cross - i like the trail cross for pedal rides. I feel the support of the 2FO is better for DH (but I slip on chunky stuff, soles are wearing thin after 2 seasons).

I'm looking to try out the high top trail cross soon.
  • + 1
 Yes...another one here for Adidas Trail Cross SL's...so much better than anything out there. So good in every aspect and they are lasting very well. Only ones i would consider after the Adidas would be OWN.
  • + 4
 kind of like a shimano am humped a 5/10 and this is the result!!!! i know that they are to do a job but why do we have to wear shoes that look like spine corrective footwear? cant they function and look casual too?
  • + 3
 Interesting, I have the previous model an i really like them, but I also never tried a 510 so maybe I would get even more traction.
BUT interesting too, the review of the previous model here on pinkbike did not mentioned anything about missing traction and was pretty positiv after all -> www.pinkbike.com/news/specialized-2fo-flat-shoes-review-2014.html
  • + 3
 I couldn't stand the 5.10 Freeriders that I got earlier this year. I bought them after my first pair of 2FOs wore out because everyone goes on and on about how great 5.10a are I figured it was time to try them.

The craftsmanship/materials felt cheap. The fit was sloppy and much too flexy in my opinion. And the much ballyhooed grip of stealth rubber left me scratching my head as to why everyone has such a boner for it.

Went right back to 2FO flats and happy to buy these when my current pair wears out.
  • + 4
 Anyone heard if they are redesigning the clipless version too? The clipless version has been really good to me... really burly and has put up with 2+ years of abuse
  • + 2
 The fact that these shoes likely have less grip but as a result last longer than 510s, is what I'm looking for. Also the stiff sole is effecting the grip level so you have to decide if you want that trade off.

I don't want to give up the traction but I can't afford $150 every 4 months for the 510s any longer.
  • + 3
 Had a pair of the originals. They were too stiff, not enough pedal feel and poor grip. Got 510s now and so much happier. Quality of 2fo was good but would not go back.
  • + 1
 Received my third pair of 5 ten freeriders, years worth of perfect grip and solid shoes. Went for the canvas versions this time and the grip doesn't seem much cop at all.. 

Compared to the last pair and previous pairs of freerider pros, last pair are now 4 years old.

Anyone else find this or just a naff batch
  • + 5
 Comfy flat pedal shoes with BOA, please !!! 3
  • + 1
 Received my third pair of 5 ten freeriders, years worth of perfect grip and solid shoes. Went for the canvas versions this time and the grip doesn't seem much cop at all.. 

Compared to the last pair and previous pairs of freerider pros, last pair are now 4 years old.

Anyone else find this or just a naff batch
  • + 1
 5 10s do have different rubber compounds. I believe there is S1 S2 and Mi6, which is the grippiest and will obviously wear the quickest.
  • + 1
 I've had the same experience.
  • + 1
 I'm giving the new 5.10 Sam Hills a run now. I had the 2015 Impact and the soles peeled off completely from the middle out.
It looked like a manufacturing miscalculation. Not a sign of glue.

They were great and warrantied them which is fine by me. My original Impacts hung on for a very long time.

I think everyone has to accept what we are asking of these shoes these days. They take more direct abuse than a motocross boot when you think of the demands put on them.

To make a riding shoe with MOTOCROSS level durability (and even those beasts wear out and come apart at the seams if you truly put in 3-4 days of hour plus Moto in) would RUIN a bike shoe's usefulness as a riding/walking/non-clown at the market SHOE.

I'm not giving 5.10 a free pass, but I think to ask more than 2 seasons out of a flat soled DH shoe with the ability to grip the pedals/conform/be walkable/strollable/hikeable/comfortable in the car is unrealistic.

My Shimano AM-45 clipless shoes are bombproof, but they are designed to clip in, have a rigid sole, heavy materials, etc. They're not comfortable except on my bike at 90rpm. Nowhere else.

Durable
Tactile
Comfortable

Pick two!
  • + 1
 They did a good job on the look of the shoe, it actually looks like a shoe for bikes, not skateboards. But somehow they screwed up the rubber while still maintaining an uncompetitive price. So my next shoe is still the Adidas Terrex Trail Cross.
  • + 0
 I live in the South Bay area near Oakland, California, and I can't wear Five-Tens. You see, 510 is the area code for Oakland, and the gangsters down here shoot people wearing Five-Tens. Specialized is in the 408 area code, so maybe they could make a Four-Oh-Eight model?
  • + 4
 Does Slipknot know you're using their rubber?
  • + 1
 Seems like a PB typo, as the shoe says "Slip Not" and not "Slipknot" as written in the article.
  • + 4
 You can invoke the powers of Paul Gray and Joey Jordison when shredding with them then!?
  • + 2
 @ctd07: if only... if only.
  • + 2
 Ha. Sorry, #metalmondays got me. Fixed.
  • + 1
 I had a pari of 5.10 impact and I'm now using 2fo. 2fo feels more comfortable and I'm overall happy with the, but i have to armi that 5.10 are a lot ahead in terms of pure grip on the pedal
  • + 3
 I tried a pair of the original 2fos.......they are the worst flat pedal shoe ever! I use them to mow the lawn now.
  • + 1
 I have 'old' 2FO's and I don't feel much control when riding in them. I feel soooo much better in ordinary vans old school lites.
  • + 2
 the look is beautiful but the sole is too hard for biking. only good for shopping mall floor
  • + 3
 These shoes remind me of seniors' comfort walking shoes.....
  • + 1
 I've the 2F0 clipless Very fresh in sommer Very light Dry fast also with mud Quiet rigid soles.. that is good to pedal uphill... but not so for feeling the pedals...
  • + 2
 Hike-a-Bike in the OG's was brutal. If the sole is truly improved, I'll try again
  • + 3
 They look like medical orthotic shoes.. frumpy chunky
  • + 1
 The original 2fos are fine grip is more tgan sufficient and durability also very good.so if these are a improved version all is good. .
  • + 2
 does it make my riding experience better compared to running shoes as I usually do?
  • + 1
 @indotrails, it depends whether you now have problems with slipping pedals or not. I used to ride in trekking shoes with Vibram soles, they were decent but on rougher trails the shoes didn't hold perfectly. Then I switched to 5.10 freerider pro, and this problem has been solved so in my case it helped.
  • + 1
 Also, the stiffer sole in biking shoes should be more comfortable than a running shoe which is usually soft.
  • + 4
 Yes, riding shoes are much better than running shoes for riding. Game changer, no comparison at all.
  • + 2
 That's a lotta dough for shoes that last around 2 months before being trashed
  • + 0
 For the price of one pair of 5 10's or these 2FO's I can get 5 pairs of DC's at sport chek. I'm too old to be cool now anyways.
  • + 2
 Skate shoes... even 510s ate over rated for the price.
  • + 1
 I ended up grabbing a set of the old version a month ago for $50 off the specialized website. Hard to beat that.
  • + 3
 Bootie
  • + 1
 Yes please
  • + 1
 I'm in
  • + 1
 Sam Hill on Spec next year?
  • + 1
 How do they compare to Teva's?
  • + 2
 Finally wearing out my last pair of Tevas. Sad day here. They dry fast, are comfy and last forever plus grippy without being too much.
  • + 3
 @ThePeanutGallery: I would say that the Tevas grip was about the same as the past 2FO. These are better, somewhere in the middle of the Teva and the 510 grip
  • + 2
 I owned two pairs of the Teva flats and I've now owned two pairs of the 2F0 flats. They are very similar. With the 2F0s having a decidedly burlier upper. After trying 5.10 in between 2FOs and being very disappointed, I recommend giving the 2FOs a shot.
  • + 1
 I love my Teva's. I bought a pair of the old 2FO's a few years ago and then randomly found a pair of Teva's at Winners for $35. Decided to pick them up as a backup shoe and after one ride they became my go-to option for 3 seasons. I found the 2FO had terrible grip, were heavy, and felt like I had a brick underneath my foot inside of a ski boot. There was no pedal feel and the shoe was so stiff it was uncomfortable after 10 minutes of riding. Sad that now my Teva's have worn out and I'm looking at other options. With Five Tens going up in price and the quality going down, options for flat shoes aren't as robust as clipless options. So I'm going to switch to clipless and see what happens.
  • + 1
 Wait, how do I clip in Smile
  • + 1
 Waiting for the Shimano GR9s, these look nice though.
  • + 1
 They probably gonna sue Slipknot for use their their rubber name.
  • + 1
 When are they out ? They are not on the specialized website ?
  • + 2
 #lookslikeateva
  • + 1
 I have a pair of 2FO collecting dust in my closet. the grip is just ass
  • - 2
 5:10 FOR LIFE!!!!!!! I have there water shoes, hiking boots, casual shoes and many types of mtb shoes. there rubber tech is far beyond any other company.5ten VXi and DMR vaults = better than clipless
  • + 1
 Any other colours apart from boring and boring?
  • + 1
 Another brand / model who does not provide size 36 or 37. Disappointing...
  • + 0
 So funny does anyone ride flats anymore??
  • + 1
 510 for life!!!
  • + 37
 More like 4 months but yeah whatever
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 @fabdemaere: got mine 2 years now, still in one piece Big Grin
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flag Kramz (Aug 1, 2017 at 1:42) (Below Threshold)
 I have 5/10, and never wear them, as much as I'd like to endorse them. They are better for pedaling power, because they're stiff, but my street shoes always seem to get the nod because I don't feel it's even worth putting the 5/10's on unless I'm going on some sort of huge expedition, which never happens(I bought the street shoes because they seemed good [and are great] for cycling as well[Adidas Matchcourt]). Additionally, half the time I catch myself wearing my ratty old river/BBQing shoes to bicycle after all that effort, and it even astounds me the level of retarded, haha.
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 I'm buying this because of the word SLIPKNOT! \m/,
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 Slipknot are shit.
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 Why no mention of the neoprene bootie, and its function, on the 1.0 iteration? seems like an important addition to the shoe to ignore?
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 It's mentioned in the details for the 1.0. We haven't done more than try them on in a conference room so it isn't fair to comment on the shoe aside from fit.
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 @AJBarlas: seriously? sorry PB but that's a shocking answer. Even in the deep rugged wilderness of a conference room- presumably in front of a Specialized representative schooled on the product- that could be touched on perhaps? Why is it there? what does it do? you know, sensible questions an inquisitive journalists could ask. The phrase, "We haven't done more than try them on in a conference room so it isn't fair to comment on the shoe aside from fit" is a keeper though, I'll just disregard all the comments on grip (or lack thereof?) then shall I? I'll bare that in mind the next time I look up product tests on PB... Poor.
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 @properp: ha! exactly...
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 @nickkk: it does say they only tested the 2.0.
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 @rubbertoe: "tested" sure.... well, regardless of how rigourously they tested a flat pedal MTB shoe in a conference room (see above), I still feel something could have been said about it- given particularly as this is not a common feature amongst shoes of any brand in the flat pedal shoe market. Lazy piece of writing. Totally undermines the legitimacy of the whole review and any positive or negative comments.
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 @nickkk, damn son, you really love those neoprene booties.
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 @slumgullion: brilliant, quite the comedian there. So the article author just admitted to only trying the shoes on in a conference room... if that's all you look for in a product review in terms of credibility then you must have bought some terrible shit in your time. Its fine to take the piss my American friend but really PB could have done better with their article and not rehashed the same press release I'll be reading on a dozen other MTB sites in the next week. If you look closely this is no better than the glorious infomercials your country spaffed on the world when cable tv was a thing.
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 @nickkk: I think you're confused - you're getting all mad about the 1.0, when this is a review of the 2.0. Silly numbers.
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 @slumgullion: Nope. I don't think you're reading what I wrote correctly my friend. Try again. I am aware the 2.0 not the 1.0 was tested. Others even spelled it out for me too which was great of them. That doesn't stop the writer asking a question or providing information on the more unique feature of the alternative iteration of the product. This is suposedly a review of a new product, yet it was volunteered-amazingly- that this was was principally done in a conference room. The 'bootie' which I referred to has not been a feature of any 2FO shoe before- it seems to me entirely sensible to ask about it no? The writer was in a room with a product spokesman presumably- this would allow the question to be asked or explored. Sure they didn't get any time on a bike with them, that's not the point. They could have elaborated on it but looks like they just shuffled some words around from the press release and called it good.

It's cute and all that to just take the piss mate but try reading properly and forming a sensible contribution.
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 This is why I scroll directly to the bottom of the comments section. Great entertainment fellas Salute
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 @dbodoggle: glad it was entertaining for you. I'm still astounded the author got a free pass saying "We haven't done more than try them on in a conference room so it isn't fair to comment on the shoe aside from fit" maybe I should stick to brain dead comments praising the 510 4 lyf and not bother with questions about the product...in a product review? f*cking morons.
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 I can tell you what a neoprene bootie will do and I've never touched the shoe: Make my feet sweat.
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 No high tops, no ankle support, no thanx!
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 Nope! Five Ten everyday for ever and ever!!!!
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