Nicolai's EBoXX Monster - Eurobike 2017

Aug 31, 2017
by Paul Aston  
Eurobike 2017


Nicolai EBoxx


The Geometron Bikes conceived by Chris Porter and Mojo, and built by Nicolai are starting to look more and more mainstream as bike brands slowly play catch-up, adding a few degrees and mm's each year. Every brand at Eurobike appears to be showing a new eMTB, but they all seem to blend into the next one, Nicolai's latest eMTB however, is as attention grabbing as the original Geometron from three years ago.


Nicolai EBoxx


A first glance, it could be mistaken that Nicolai had given up on their 'Maschinenbau' handcrafted styling, have they headed off to Asia and ordered some hydro-formed tubing? No, that wouldn't be Nicolai. The tubing comes 10km's away from Nicolai HQ, formed by a company that uses a new technology called Pacecast. Pacecast can create crazy shapes, even in small batches; the company mainly produces tubes for Pagani supercars.

The headtube and top tubes of the EBoXX are aluminum, but the huge formed down tube that hides a Bosch 500wh PowerPack is made from magnesium.


Nicolai EBoxx


There are three builds to choose from, starting at €5,399. The Techline model here comes in at a respectable €6,499 which is surprisingly cheap for a Nicolai in comparison to its pricey e-competitors. The build featured here comes with Fox 36/Float X2 suspension, SRAM GX drivetrain, and Hope componentry.


Nicolai EBoxx
The frame has a bolt to mount a smartphone for all your navigational/business trip needs.


Nicolai EBoxx
Nicolai EBoxx
By changing the shock length, shock mount and adjusting the swingarm length behind the rear shock eyelet and close to the rear axle, one chassis can build three completely different bikes.

To keep costs down, Nicolai have developed an adjustable system called the 'Mutator' to change suspension travel, wheel size, and geometry. There are four setups possible that mirror Nicolai's existing GXX range. The G13 is a 130mm 29er, the G16 a 160mm 27.5", and there will be a G19 available which will be a 200mm travel e-downhill bike.

Of course, the Geometron inspired geometry has some crazy numbers: reach numbers range from 485mm on a small size up to 555mm on the XXL, head angles are 63.5º at the steepest, a 77º seat angle and a 461-474mm chainstay. My favorite number is the 1404mm wheelbase on the XXL, just because I have never seen any bike go over 1.3m threshold.


Nicolai EBoxx
Plenty of clearance for chunky tires.


Nicolai EBoxx
Widest down tube ever?


Nicolai EBoxx
It might not have the classical look of a Nicolai, but the bikes are still handcrafted in Germany.



110 Comments

  • 141 1
 Looks like a chainsaw welded to a Mondraker.
  • 7 1
 It is
  • 5 5
 A hashtag comes to my mind, but I would be banned from the whole bike internet to mention in realtion to an e-bike... it would be worse than Piss-Jesus...
  • 2 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Yea I thought better to steer clear of that one too
  • 1 1
 @bellamyk: Come on. Admit it. You were trying to bait @WAKIdesigns
  • 1 1
 @WAKIdesigns: you're holding out on me man!!!
  • 55 14
 i'm soo tired of those shitty ecrap
  • 13 8
 Agreed
  • 14 8
 Agreed^2 Pinkbike was my oasys of peace in overtech modern world and now it is just about e e e eeeeeeeeeeee ....mrdat to, jdu na analogove kolo Smile
  • 13 1
 Dude it's eurobike, companies are only presenting their ebikes products
  • 3 2
 @Kaspy: mas recht!
  • 4 2
 @StiHacka: Cau kluci taky me to zacina srat tyhlety E-Biky na Pinkbiku :-)
  • 4 3
 @Smilicito: Ono je nejhorsi, ze to je uplne vsude. Chapu koncept, ale tolik lidi - vlastni zkusenost - se ted dostanou tam, kde na to technicky nemaj a jsou rizikem pro ostatni. On je obecne trend vse delat jednodusi atd...neumis jezdit, neboj. Udelame kolo s vetsim zdvihem, polozenejsi a delsi..a vis co dame tam i motor...kolo je o drine, potu a krvi...ale pokazde, kdyz se ozvu, tak dostanu kruty downvote Big Grin
  • 5 13
flag colourclashing (Aug 31, 2017 at 10:24) (Below Threshold)
 dude ride an E-bike and you'll change your mind, as they are fun as heck, and you never get tired of the torque when you get going, and it makes the long up hill slogs more fun.
  • 10 1
 @colourclashing: I like hills.keeps me fit.
  • 3 4
 @colourclashing: totally agree!
  • 8 2
 this is now so ridicolous i almost like it -i have no idea what to do with this -but at least it does no longer pretend to be a bicycle. hmmmm...near my house there is a cross track on a relatively steep hill -ok where is my checkbook
  • 4 1
 I will join you with my KTM E-SX ! kind of the same category.
  • 6 0
 Ive never ridden one of these Geolution bikes, but this one looks like it came straight out of Orange County Chopper´s garage!
  • 1 0
 You should! It rides like no other E-MTB i've ridden before and the normal bikes with the Geolution are stunning! Will order a G15 later this year!
  • 8 2
 Are these things that big in the industry? Every company is making them now. Ive only ever seen one ebike on the hill ever.
  • 6 1
 The bike parks in Europa even have these fugly ethingies as rentals!
  • 4 0
 I saw a lot them: a few on the trails, many on bike-paths or fire-roads
  • 6 1
 Around here every other bike is an e-bike!
  • 6 0
 Well, you should see european Alps right now. It seems like 50 % of mountainbikes are electric now.
  • 1 0
 @mickeymetz: bike parks in the US are renting them too.
  • 10 0
 Yes and no. Yes, E-Bikes are selling pretty well. No, the actual numbers aren't gigantic, but the rest of the cycling market topped out three years ago and brands are scrambling for anything at all that is showing growth.
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For something more specific, E-bike sales grew 20-ish percent in the UK last year, which equated to 35'000-ish bikes sold. That's not 35'000 high end bikes, that's total, everything from janky Chinese shopping bikes to £8k Haibike E-downhill bikes. In a few countries (notably Holland) E-bike sales actually stayed flat last year, so the market's getting close to saturation point. Expect to see a lot of E-bikes getting heavy discounts by the end of next year and quietly dropping off the bottom of catalogues.
  • 13 0
 @Fix-the-Spade: "In a few countries (notably Holland) E-bike sales actually stayed flat last year" - I see what you did there.
  • 10 1
 @mickeymetz: funny thing is that some people rent ebikes and then use them exclusively for downhill, while they could rent a downhill bike with proper geometry, suspension and tyres for the same price. Typical 50 years old German holidays seems to be "e-pedal from the hotel to the lift, take the lift up with an e-bike, drink beers, enjoy the sun(burns) and eat at the top of the lift, and then skid and block people while slowly going down the trail.end of the day"
  • 2 0
 Neither. I'm currently living in Europe, I've never seen a eMTB, but see plenty of people riding e-commuters and stuff. Don't know anyone I ride with that has one, I know some bloke back home got one on our local trails,but now no-one ever rides with him because it's no fun chasing someone with a motor. He isn't allowed on group rides anymore either, or so I've been told.
  • 7 0
 Never saw one till I was in Italy this weekend. Man I saw so many of these, so I couldn't believe it. There was almost as many ebikes, as road bikes. Don't know how it is in France or Germany, but I predict many fat europeans near future. Thank god we are too poor to have many of these in my country.
  • 1 0
 My LBS did a demo day this summer and had a Giant eMTB that some people tested. It's still for sale at the shop 3 months later.

I've been to Brussels for my vacation and encountered only one eMTB in a park. It was a man (maybe 60 years old or so) riding with his wife. His wife was NOT on an eBike.

That is the only eBikes I've seen outside of shops so far but I must admit the Nicolai looks way better than any other I've seen.
  • 2 0
 @kisab: But where do they ride them? Are they going up and down fire roads and bike parks, or are they actually entering single trails? With few exceptions, I just can't see anybody skilled enough to go on technical single trails to do this on an ebike. But maybe I'm wrong. My concern is that the bike industry will use the success from commuter ebikes to push the 25km/h limit up. Soon we will have 70km/h eMTBs.
  • 6 1
 @mentalhead: Europeans would be getting fatter anyway, e-bikes just help spread them more evenly over the continent.
  • 1 0
 @Fix-the-Spade: I must of seen well over a dozen of them at the forest of dean in 1 day at the bank holiday just gone, and that was just while I was in the uplift queue
  • 2 0
 @mitochris:
I'd say 90% never see a single trail (or at least a single trail worth riding), so it's not too bad.
  • 1 0
 @mitochris: I know there's a few people in Hellas with them, but i'm yet to see one on the trails.
  • 1 0
 @mark3: You sure it wasn't just the same guy going round and round while you were waiting for the van?
  • 3 0
 @Fix-the-Spade: the UK is WAY behind mainland europe with bikes.. and holland,, well it's flat,,, go to the mountains and have a look,,, i left the local shop an hour ago, they're a big specialized dealer,, 70% of new bike sales are E... and most of those are levo and then haibike.... when you have a lift company that won't let you take bikes on the lifts then you're only option left is and e bike,, you can sit there and say pedal if you want, but to get upto the plan d'aguille is a 4 hour push up!!! it's brutal.. .ebikes have basically allowed everyone to say a big f+ck you to the lift company and go riding anyway.... that's just chamonix...
  • 2 0
 @Fix-the-Spade: hahaha yeah it could of been, he was probably showing off how fast he can ride uphill on tarmac
  • 1 1
 @zede: Hey, i tried to get out of your way but was too drunk.
  • 1 0
 yep here in oz I've seen an e-bike literally once.
  • 1 0
 @mitochris: About the commuter Ebikes, it's normal, 25km/h it's almost dangerous regarding the average traffic speed, 30/35km/h would be better for the user security. About EMTBs, from y point of view it's open, open the gas....
  • 1 0
 @mark3: Hope you were on a dh bike? lol
  • 1 0
 @b4uwereborn: yeah I was on a Norco aurum carbon and my lad was on his specialised status
  • 1 0
 @zede: sounds like my last trip to saalbach!!
  • 4 1
 i forsee a lot of new to MTB people having some crashes due to false confidence in their ability given by the ease of which they can climb. Then on the way down some tech trails their lack of ability will be either a rude awakening or a crash. I know of one who has already broke his arm for this very reason.
  • 2 1
 No, joeys will just stay on the fire roads, and experienced riders will just ride the same tracks, but more times with a heavier bike. And as this annoying guy from the comment section was saying, if they have a hard time riding down the trail, the next time they will stick to the fire roads.
  • 9 3
 kill it!!! before it breeds!
  • 7 1
 imagine if it bred with the orange 29er dh bike
  • 4 2
 i love hearing from e-bikers how they "work out harder" and "you still gotta pedal" lol....unless you have an injury or are getting on in years (which im not bashing we all get older so no shame in that) but for all you other lazy fat peeps trying to tell me your actually working harder and you get a better workout from an e-bike just give it a rest. laziness is everywhere these days i would sooner not have bike manufacturers promote it.

now i just wait for the "you've obviously never ridden an e-bike before" comments.....that's there usual retort Smile
  • 1 0
 Honestly the best e-bike I've ever ridden! And the Conti is a far better tyre then the WTB which was mounted on the first models! The WTB had simply no grip in the wet! Plus it's made in Germany! And fairly priced if you look at at 'non e' Ion-G16 costs nearly exactly as much!
  • 9 5
 This bike fell off the ugly tree and hit every branch down.
  • 2 1
 This is actually less ugly than the Geometron, which explains why the latter was launched. It all makes sense now.
  • 2 0
 Why no pinion version? Are these like other Nicolai's where you can pay a premium and get custom geo? Like shrinking those chain stays?
  • 1 0
 Ridden uphill for 40 years.... Looking forward to monstering rides on something like this in the future..... Won`t be able to hear the heckling as I will be too far up the hill...
  • 3 0
 Meanwhile, Nicloai and Mojo introduced a long travel 29er - ION-G15.
  • 3 0
 So it's an electric toboggan then?
  • 4 1
 Wow...my 26er is looking more and more badassSmile
  • 4 3
 Why so much hate ? Elderly or injured people can enjoy pedaling all day, I do not see any bad things in that except for weight, there are plenty in Europe...
  • 3 0
 The name is spot on!!
  • 2 0
 What a hotrod! Looks better than any other ebike I have seen.
  • 3 0
 Needs to be longer ^_^
  • 2 0
 There doesn't appear to be a USB to charge my phone??

Im out.
  • 1 0
 it's in the display unit.
  • 2 0
 What is this new devilry?
  • 2 4
 It's first day of spring here in Nz. My fitness is pretty average but after a normal ride of maybe 16 to 20km/two hours I normally want to go and do another loop but my body has had enough so that extending my ride would cause more pleasure than pain. My plan is to have an Ebike to do that second loop. I think that this would increase my fitness and my dh skills would improve also. Most importantly I'd have more time riding which means more fun. I can't see any downsides.
  • 4 1
 "Cool story bro." I really like the logic : pedal less = more fitness haha. If you want an ebike, it's fine, it's your choice so just buy it; no need to find some bad excuses.
  • 2 2
 @zede: Actually I'd be pedalling more rather than less, as I mentioned. I think you missed my idea entirely.
  • 3 1
 @panaphonic: if you are not fit enough to do two laps, but with an ebike you can do two laps, it just means riding an ebike decreases the amount of energy needed per lap. I don't see how it's making you more fit? you will ride more, but use the same amount of energy, except maybe in downhill where moving 20kg around turns and drops will be more energy consuming than with a 14kg bike. But then you should see the obvious downside that your bike will be less playful.
  • 2 0
 @zede: I ride my normal bike for the first 1.5 hours and then swap for the Ebike for the last 1.5 hours.
  • 1 0
 @panaphonic: aaaah ok makes more sense now. But you need to be rich
  • 2 0
 @zede: I'm planning to do it next year after I buy a van. Not rich but I love riding so it's a top priority.
  • 1 0
 That bike looks fugly but kudos for not trying to hide the fact its an ebike.
  • 1 0
 Best eMTB I've seen yet! Would love to try the 1400mm wheelbase version! Getting close to MX bikes in wheelbase there!
  • 2 1
 Plenty of clearance for chunky tires........ except at the chainstays.
  • 2 1
 ...where the tyres appear to rub directly against the brake and mech cable housings???

Someone tell me that is just a trick of the light... but it has happened before.

I used to have a Jamis Diabolo a long time ago, and when the rear suspension was fully compressed at speed, the housings that ran down similar to this would make a "BUUUUZZZZZZZZZZZ"" as they were continually serrated by the side knobs of the Minions! It was a pain to route!
  • 2 0
 I like the ratbike look
  • 1 0
 An E Nicolai and no one has mentioned fat, lazy dentists.
  • 1 0
 Downhill e-bike?? Sounds like an oxymoron.
  • 1 0
 Wait for it......
  • 6 7
 Every time i see these things coming out from the mtb industry the more i respect bmx and road cycling.
  • 5 4
 Please no.
  • 7 8
 Bla,bla,e-bike bla,bla, bad,bla blaaaah....dont read it if you're ñot interested!! This constant whining is unbearable !
  • 7 4
 Aren't you constantly whining about people whining ?
  • 1 2
 @zede: not that Iam aware of... probably you confuse me for yourself ,hence the three posts you have in this section already Big Grin
  • 3 1
 @themountain: I'm not complaining, just commenting
  • 1 1
 @zede: Aah...then I rephrase: The constant commenting is unbearable! Big Grin
  • 2 1
 So much pain in one post
  • 3 3
 Who are we joking, that is a motorcycle!
  • 1 1
 E bikes are going to kill our sport - they're not bicycles
  • 1 1
 That is not a monster, that is a monstrosity!
  • 1 0
 That looks Wank
  • 1 0
 Smells like Cesar Rojo
  • 6 7
 The beauty of german esthetics right there. OMFG it's so fugly ;/
  • 5 3
 Yeah..polish design is so much superior, right?
  • 4 1
 @themountain: Yep. I think that it actually is.
  • 3 1
 @EnduroriderPL: You honestly think there is as much difference between the inherent aesthetic tastes of German or Polish people as there is between just individual humans? Do all other German bike brands look particularly German? Does a Canyon look German? Are you just a dick?
  • 1 0
 @EnduroriderPL: Wow...kind to share an exaple?
  • 2 1
 @deadmeat25: well I'm not a dead meat fo sure. Nicolai bikes were always fugly and they will be as it's part of it's nature. Nicolai looks 100% german. German are good engineers but not good at astetic spectrum of design. That's why all nice german cars came from italian designs studios.
  • 1 1
 Hole E crap!
  • 2 4
 They are not made in GERMANY anymore !
  • 1 2
 Yes they are, it even fucking says it in the article you knob...
  • 1 0
 @deadmeat25: did You know hartails are welded in Travnik in Bosnien Harzegowina Wink
  • 4 6
 i want it.
  • 1 4
 Check out our down votes for liking it Smile
  • 3 6
 Neeeeeeeeeeeeeed!!!!

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