Alright, it's not really a ''first look'' given that we
spotted Norco's new downhill bike, or an iteration of it at least, back in October of 2016. At the time, Sam Blenkinsop and a handful of smart people from Norco were testing the design at a mostly deserted Whistler Bike Park; mostly deserted except for one eagle-eyed rider and his potato phone, that is. And after much pestering on my part, Norco finally let me into their North Vancouver HQ in February of last year to
see the prototype and throw a bunch of questions at their engineers.
Now, a year and eight months after the radically different (for Norco), high-single pivot, idler-equipped carbon bike was first spotted, and with a
full season of World Cup racing under it, Norco has finally released details, production spec, and geometry for what they're calling the Aurum HSP Carbon Downhill Series.
There's a lot to cover here, but the main points include that the Aurum HSP's 200mm-travel suspension design is radically different to anything Norco's done before, and also that riders who'll fit on the M/L and L/XL sizes can choose either 27.5'' or 29'' wheels - there's a unique frame for each. Norco says that this was done so that riders can ''further fine-tune handling characteristics based on their riding style.'' Sorry, Stubbs, but you'll be on the smaller wheels if you aren't tall enough for the M/L; 27.5'' wheels can be had on the entire XS/S to L/XL size range. All sizes will get that nifty offset headtube insert that lets you tinker with reach and wheelbase numbers, too.
Aurum HSP Details• Intended use: downhill
• Wheel size: 27.5'' or 29''
• Rear wheel travel: 200mm
• Fork travel: 200mm
• Frame material: carbon fiber
• High single-pivot w/ idler
• Head angle: 62.5-degrees
• Adjustable front/center (+/-8mm)
• 'Gravity Tune' size-specific rear-center lengths
• Locking main pivot
• Full external cable routing
• Weight: TBA
• MSRP: $7,999 USD (HSP 1); $5,499 USD (HSP 2); $3,299 USD (frame)
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www.norco.com The high-end HSP 1 (left) gets a $7,999 USD price tag, while the HSP 2 (right) sells for $5,499 USD.
There are two complete bikes to choose from, with the BoXXer World Cup and X01 DH-equipped Aurum HSP 1 going for $7,999 USD, and the Aurum HSP 2 selling at $5,499 USD with its BoXXer RC and GX 7-speed drivetrain. But don't forget that each can be had on 27.5'' and 29'' wheels, too, so there are actually four complete models to choose from.
And if you want to build up your HSP with parts of your choosing, a frame kit (incl. shock, headtube insert, axle) costs $3,299 USD.
Two production Aurum HSP 1s at this weekend's World Cup DH race in Losinj, Croatia.
Ross Bell photoSuspension DesignIf you're not familiar with Norco's previous bikes, the Aurum HSP's 200mm-travel, high single-pivot and idler layout is their first radically different, non-Horst Link bike that they've designed since 1995 when the FTS-1 was released. That's twenty-two years of Horst Link'ing... and now this, which begs the question: why the drastic change?
According to the press release, ''The high-single pivot design provides a rearward axle path, lengthening the wheelbase when the suspension is engaged and thus carrying maximum speed through the rough without compromising on control,'' which kinda matches what we've been told about high-pivot bikes for ages. It's also a theory that others have put to good use, of course, from Sunn to, more recently, Commencal, and a bunch of others in between.
The high single-pivot delivers 200mm of travel on both the 27.5'' and 29'' wheeled frames.
What makes the HSP different to those examples, according to Senior Design Engineer, Owen Pemberton (who has since left Norco), is its suspension geometry, and particularly its progressive nature: ''The kinematics are so different in a way, and the forces that they generate are really high,'' he said when I questioned him.
The HSP's linkage actually works the opposite way to the bike you're probably thinking of, Commencal's Supreme DH V4. So instead of compressing its shock from below as on the V4, the A.R.T pull-link tugs on a rocker that compresses the shock from above to deliver 200mm of get-out-of-trouble.
''This design allows us to be so creative with the actual feel of the suspension, just by changing the linkages,'' Pemberton said last year. ''We've been through, on the computer, probably close to a hundred different iterations now. What we've actually prototyped is a first suite of four with very differently shaped curves,'' which is essentially doing bracket testing of sorts but with the bike's linkage rather than just shock setup.
All of that would have been much, much more difficult had they stuck to a four-bar, Horst Link design as used on Aurum, simply because its suspension elements do far more than only suspension-type stuff.
The high main pivot would also cause a boatload of chain growth and pedal kickback if Norco didn't use an idler pulley to route the chain up and over the pivot, which is why most of these types of designs require exactly that. It likely also has something to do with that time
Blenkinsop was spotted running an interesting looking idler pulley add-on setup on his Norco Aurum at a New Zealand National race back in January of 2016. Norco also says that ''tailored anti-rise makes the bike squat under heavy braking to counteract the forward rider inertia.''
A better look at the Aurum HSP's linkage.
Ross Bell photoFrame DetailsThis bike's predecessor, which also goes by the Aurum name, looks downright conventional compared to the HSP's ultra-low slung, swoopy frame. I mean, could the top tube drop down any more than it already does? If it wasn't for the fin-like seat mast, you might mistake the thing for an adult-sized run-bike on 'roids. The frame went straight from computer to rideable carbon prototype, which is a first for Norco and not how it's usually done. No steel or aluminum test mules, or even a rapid-prototyped model, were created; it was all or nothing... No pressure, though.
''It was when we were going through the whole process, it was like, 'I think we're going to be handcuffed to just go straight to carbon,''' Pemberton said when I interviewed him back in 2017. He was largely referring to the 'wings' that extend down from the swingarm to where the pull-links are attached, a part of the frame that, according to Norco, proved to be virtually impossible to prototype out of metal. It's probably safe to assume that there was more than just a bit of suspense as the first HSP frame came out of the mold.
Guards galore. There's the usual bolt-on downtube protector, but the HSP also has a guard up higher for protection from truck tailgates.
Ross Bell photoThe carbon frame is made using the same 'Smoothcore' mandrel technique that's employed to make some of Norco's other high-end bikes. In short, rather than using bladders that can sometimes not provide enough compaction in complicated areas inside the frame while it's in the mold, a heat-sensitive mandrel is placed inside that's said to apply more evenly spread pressure to the layup. This technique should result in a smoother surface inside the frame, hence the Smoothcore name.
The idler mounts directly overtop the main pivot.
Ross Bell photoNorco is far from being the only brand having their frames made using this method, of course, but they are doing something else that's pretty interesting... Rather than building all the frame sizes with the same carbon construction, each size gets a unique layup. In Norco's own words: ''Size-Scaled Tubing enables our engineers to calibrate frame stiffness to the weight of the prospective rider by increasing tube profile dimension in proportion with frame size.''
So, because the large-sized frame is obviously longer than a small, it'd require more material than the small to meet rigidity requirements and vice versa. They're also using a resin that they call 'ArmorLite' during the bonding process that, according to Norco, is especially resistant to impacts. There's a bolt-on guard on the lower end of the downtube, too.
See those small reliefs (left) around the outer bearing race on these prototype linkage plates? That should make it easier to get the bearings out when the time comes.
When I visited Norco's HQ last year to learn about the new Aurum, they were especially keen to point out a few mechanic-friendly features that the prototype was sporting, and those have also been carried over on the production version, too. The locking main pivot, which should refuse to come loose, is clever, and they went with externally routed housing front to back to have upkeep be headache-free. More interesting are the small reliefs machined into the inner face of the bores that will make it easy to get the old bearings out.
Two Wheel Sizes, Two Different FramesWhen I read that Norco was going to offer the HSP with both 27.5'' and 29'' wheels, I assumed that the frame was the same for both and the deed was done by way of a geometry adjustment feature of some sort. That'd be the most cost-efficient method, I assume. Instead, each wheel size gets its own front and rear triangles but, because Norco can change the pivot locations between the two, they can use the same suspension linkage (in an ever so slightly altered layout) regardless of wheel diameter. This is arguably a more optimized approach, of course, but there won't be any swapping between wheel sizes on the same frame.
Can you spot the differences? Rather than using some sort of geometry adjustment, Norco is making different frames for 27.5'' and 29'' wheeled Aurum HSPs.
The HSP's suspension isn't adjustable as far as different shock mounting points go, but the bike's geometry can be tinkered with by way of an insert at the headtube that changes the reach number by 8mm. If you do decide to go longer, you'll also be dropping the bottom bracket by 1.3mm, increasing the stack by 1mm, and the wheelbase by 7mm.
Geometry is, as you'd expect, all about going warp speed down steep, fast terrain. There's a 62.5-degree head angle across the board, and a M/L frame sports a 445mm reach with 27.5'' wheels (the numbers vary slightly on the 29er). You can also add 8mm with the aforementioned offset headset cup. One number that might stand-out to you is the HSP's rear-center length that probably looks quite short; it's just 420mm on the M/L. It's not actually that tight, though, because that measurement is taken with the bike's rear suspension fully unweighted and extended, just as with any other bike. But with such a high main pivot, the rear-center length is going to grow as the bike goes into and through its 200mm of travel, so 420mm at top-out is actually shorter than it'll be at its sag point.
And speaking of rear ends, Norco is also doing size-specific rear-center lengths, something they call 'Gravity Tune' that was also used on the previous version of the Aurum and other models. ''Traditional frame designs disregard rear-center lengths when changing size, forcing riders to compensate over the bike,'' they explain. ''Gravity Tune adapts the front-center/rear-center ratio across all frame sizes, effectively optimizing geometry and rider weight distribution regardless of rider height,'' so the small-sized HSP gets a tiny 400mm chainstay length (at top-out) and Norco adds 10mm to the back end of each frame size up to 430mm for the L/XL.
The bike was first spotted back in 2016, and since then it's gone through an entire season of World Cup and National events.
I think there are a few notable things to buried in the Aurum HSP's debut, aside from the bike itself. Norco is still one of the few companies that vary rear-center length for each frame size with their Gravity Tune geometry, and the different carbon layups for each size is also worth mentioning again. Most important, though, is that rather than including some sort of geo-adjusting add-on, they've gone and manufactured different frames for 27.5'' and 29'' wheels while also tweaking the suspension on each to keep the feel consistent. Having not thrown a leg over the HSP yet, I don't have a clue as to how it performs, but you can't say that Norco didn't cover the details.
So, what do you make of the Aurum HSP and its high single-pivot suspension design?
good illustration.
Thanks for all your feedback everyone! We really appreciate your input.
It´s obvious a lot of brain power and passion has gone into this bikes development.
Yeah, i´m just a bit concerned by the fact 10000$ bikes have become the norm as fast as they have. Like, 6 years ago a 5000$ bike would have been top of the line and perfectly rideable too. Now all manufacturers move to 7000$ plus. All just because of carbon fibre which in most cases doesn´t even offer any performance gains. Here you only get a mediocre fork on the 5000$ "entry level" bike. I´m just a bit worried about this trend continuing, that´s why on the one hand i commend them for making prices "reasonable" (compared to competitors offerings) but on the other hand i just can´t get myself to call a 7000$ bike a "great" deal
Oh so you have spent some time on the new Boxxer?
Not saying the old ones were great, but hard to judge a fork that came out this week.
Preaching to the choir on the industry and pricing... "Keep MTB blue-collar"
Preach it -.-
Ski resorts with f*ckin wifi and heated seats to justify 60€+ ski tickets.
It´s the best way to turn a sport into an elitist circlejerk. Meanwhile they started charging those who go out on their own with touring skis a fee to ride.
Around here, bikeparks have increased prices by ~10€ since the e-bike wave hit. They´ve all built "uphill flowtrails" (yeah, that´s a thing...) and shit like that and realized those guys on the e-bikes and (most) enduro guys will pay any prices because it doesn´t matter for those 2-3 days of bikepark riding per year they do. Those who suffer from it are us, who ride 2-3 days a week..
I died a little inside today as i remembered how a year ago i had a discussion on how it would be beneficial to bring more people into the sport...
Oh what a fool i´ve been :/
What can i say, somebody´s got to do it, right?
...so it's got that going for it.
Riding a Canfield Jedi right now. Can't say the move to a high pivot (from a Demo) was a huge game changer but I did pick up 1.5% more speed on my home course but that could have also been the move from 26 to 27 wheels. I actually noticed the rear wheel path more on tech like Goat's Gully than I do at high speed in the chunk. Seems to stabilize the bike nicely negotiating through the rock channels and such. I am looking for a bit more reach though and 29" wheels on a DH bike definitely intrigue me.
Bikes are changing so much from one year to another sometimes hard to keep up with them all. LOL
Wll no particular problem in general, it´s just another set of bearings, something that can get relatively easy broken in a crash, get caught on something or just come loose and rattle around. You´d need a really well braced system so it is stiff enough and doesn´t get annyoing, which would inevitably add a lot of weight.
As for the numbers, it´s been quite a few years since i´ve owned that bike. All i can remember is experimenting with the floater and constantly switching around. I just never quite got that moment where i was like "yeah, the floater is obviously superior!". It was more like that the characteristics of the bike did change, but it was nothing holding me back or pushing me to ride any better. You just had to utilize the different ride characteristics and deal with the drawbacks of each option.
And as i said, specialized FSR marketing was HUGE back then. People in all forums were indoctrinated by it, which was the main course for me,a young lad of around 17-18 years at the time, to constantly seek to improve that "shitty single pivot" because people on the forums said it desperately needed the floater, yet i always felt like it didn´t do too much
Keep in mind that not everyone necessarily understood how to design a floater correctly, a floater can be designed even to *increase* anti-rise beyond the amount the bike would have otherwise had - something that was done on Barel's 2005 championship bike for example. So you definitely can't correlate what a floater did on one bike to another (since they could do completely opposite things, not just small variations), unless you mapped the AR curve of both bikes in question WITH their specified floater design.
However, there is one huge unrelated factor that does make this less of an issue now than in the distant past - and that's big wheels. 650b and 29 offer inherently better bump absorption / rollover, and I think coupled with the rearward path and presumably progressive leverage curve, it's probably something you can get over for the other benefits.
@chUNdah-luVAh-69 high single pivots always end up being heavy bikes because of the idler assembly and other complexities, even small things like the longer chain - it all adds up. I can't see a frame weight listed for this, suspect there's a reason for that. Back in the day this wasn't such a concern since DH bikes were all super heavy, but in the current era (where a V10CC large frame without shock weighs ~3000g, from memory), we're at a point where having a bike THAT much lighter could realistically provide a bigger overall performance advantage than the axle path - especially given the aforementioned improvements in bump absorption with big wheels anyway. Given this: the LAST thing you would want to do is add even more weight to the frame - floaters are heavy.
Don't get me wrong - I think this is the coolest DH bike out this season, and it's awesome to see Norco stepping outside the box + keeping the price fair. I also think carbon is really important for a high pivot bike (to offset the weight gain a little bit against modern lightweight competition), so to me this bike (potentially) does something Commencal doesn't too.
I don't think the braking will be a big deal, I feel norco made the right choice on that front. I think it would be more important to check the frame weight - if that is reasonable then I think it would be a sweet bike. Hope this answers your question.
As for "fine without it" I think it's just a matter of choosing what's a better compromise: in an objective comparison frames like this *should* be pitted against frames like the V10CC (strong and ridiculously light) since they are for the same purpose - so it certainly makes sense to not add even more weight to an inherently heavier design.
I see it that you lose a little performance under brakes (and add a little weight) which is potentially offset by a bike that absorbs bumps much better and holds traction better in general. I think if you want the rearward axle path *and* the best braking performance, it's potentially better (for weight optimisation) to forget about a floating brake and switch to a 4 bar linkage like D.O. did. But I also like the use of carbon with Norco as it potentially makes the weight more competitive, keen to see an actual number!
Gun shot (blanks of coarse) !
Where does the cage bottle go?
Oh - now I understand - it is Scott Gambler - Downlayed...
but they just moved away from it---
Can't understand why Norco designs larger frames with longer CS length, shorter CS length means smarter, does't it?
Tall people do.
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