Norco Introduces New Line of Progressive Youth Mountain Bikes

Sep 26, 2019
by Norco Bicycles  
Photo Tom Richards

PRESS RELEASE: Norco Bicycles

To help meet the needs of the amazing young talent emerging at local trails and bike parks, we have re-designed our popular Fluid FS Youth series, and introduced an entirely new range of Rampage Youth Dirt Jumpers.

Building on our success following the launch of the Fluid FS Youth’s first generation, and taking rider and parent feedback into account, the new 4-bike full suspension series is built to make the most of the endless potential and enthusiasm that young riders bring to the trail. Its progressive, modern design and careful component selection will let young riders’ abilities grow, unimpeded by their equipment, and help lay the groundwork for a lifetime of riding.


Photo Tom Richards


bigquotesWe’ve made significant changes to the details in the new frames including, the suspension kinematics designed for lighter weight riders, specific shock tunes chosen with our suspension partners as well as geometry changes including a slacker head tube angle, steeper seat tube angle as well as adding standover clearance to the new Fluid FS Youth.Jim Jamieson, Project Manager



Photo Tom Richards


bigquotesWe also made sure we sourced suspension components and a dropper post that are optimized for riders under 90 pounds, and the new geometry brings the progressive Norco ride to both 20 and 24-inch models.


Photo Tom Richards


The Rampage Youth bikes rip a page right out of the 2020 Rampage 26” and feature tough, purpose-built aluminum frames with two 24 and two 20-inch models that feature dirt jump-specific geometry, and components that are built for young riders who want to go big.


Photo Tom Richards
Photo Tom Richards



Both Fluid FS and Rampage Youth bikes feature youth-specific components by Manitou, SDG, TranzX and Norco, and are built to meet the needs of young riders who demand the most from their equipment, and want to step it up a notch before adult responsibility and pragmatism kicks in.


Photo Tom Richards


bigquotesThe quality in the frame details and component specs reflects everything we put into our full-size bikes, so the new bikes are up for every trail the kids want to ride, and the quality parts will keep them out of the shop. That’s something, as a parent of some pretty energetic riders, I really appreciate – but they’ll just be happy to be able to ride more.Jim Jamieson, Project Manager and parent


See more of the Rampage Youth here: https://www.norco.com/rampage-youth

Explore the Fluid FS Youth line here: https://www.norco.com/fluid-fs-youth/


120 Comments

  • 78 2
 I would happily hold back on new bikes for me to buy my kids that little orange ripper.
  • 26 0
 I dunno about that......but I'd get both me and the kids new Norcos!! Wink
  • 45 8
 No such dilemma for me. Don't have kids.
  • 15 0
 Those are both awesome, wish they had anything even close when I was young 75 years ago.
  • 9 0
 @Stanley-w: your mother had kids
  • 11 0
 24 aint dead.
  • 5 17
flag Stanley-w (Sep 26, 2019 at 20:05) (Below Threshold)
 @chyu: 26 however, is.
  • 2 6
flag Stanley-w (Sep 26, 2019 at 20:06) (Below Threshold)
 @speed10: My mother didn't, she have A KID. That's a fair enough point though I'll consider it when my biking needs is not as much.
  • 3 2
 @Stanley-w: what about the baby goats? They’re kids.
  • 3 1
 Not what the chick at your local bar told me @Stanley-w:
  • 3 1
 I think the lack of price info suggests it may be more like holding back on a new car!
  • 38 0
 How about head to head review between Commencal, Norco and Propain?
  • 8 1
 I volunteer my Son and Granddaughter to be test riders. Both well on their way to being little rippers. Dont forget test should include the new Rocky Reaper and the Spawn offerings as well as the new Trailcraft.
  • 6 1
 I volunteer my 1-year old daughter... she is an aspiring shredder.
  • 3 0
 And the Transition Ripcord too!
  • 11 0
 It's only between the Norco and Commencal due to the suspension and geo. The others are just using cheaper adult, way overdamped suspension. Commencal has better suspension and geo than Norco but the wheels and brakes arent nearly as nice as the Norco. Both have crappy drive trains, cranks to long and hubs with old school shimano driver. It sucks that they didn't spec a SRAM GX 11sp for their drive trains (XD driver). My kid def uses the 10t (30t ring) on bigger jump lines where the 24in wheels dont go fast enough.

Either would be awesome and still require an upgrade or two...tho a bit more so on the Commencal. We have a custom Commencal Clash 24", 27lbs with dropper, that my 7yro rides hard and its second to none...but stock the wheels are fairly shuttle/DH only and the brakes suck (we swapped out stuff and keep the wheels for DH races/big shuttle days).

Norco is better out of the box BUT only if the shock is a real childs tune for a 60lb kid...not another "light" BS tune. I've messed with them all, the Manitou Nino tuned McLeod is beyond exceptional in its tune. I wouldn't move to the Norco unless it's a true child tuned shock (oil, shim stack, etc etc). No one has done better than Manitou so far, cheers to them. Its insanely nice kid suspension.
  • 1 0
 @Svinyard: so you haven't checked out spawn then?
Frame only ripcord too and you can fill your boots on build kit and a shock service from fluid function to get it better suited to the kids.
27lbs on a 24 is brutal.
  • 7 0
 @jonnyboy: I ride with those bikes all the time (have two spawns in the garage). All adult tunes and super over damped at 30% sag. It's crazy, like the shock is filled with maple syrup. Fine for jumps (like a slope style tune) but this new suspension is a game changer. Literally like going from a RS Recon to a Fox 36. The air spring and damper are the best manitou makes and its custom tuned for a child. You would have to see it before judging.

You left out the lightest of all and most expensive-trail craft. An All mountain build of a trail craft with DHF, dropper and Fox 32 is right around 26-27lbs. All the light bikes are XC whips with crappy suspension.

I could do 26lbs with new pedals, seat and bars with the Clash...but it's fine as is. My 7yro shreds black freeride lines and 1k ft climbs just fine. 27lbs is far from brutal as long as you get the rotational weight to be really light. Not every kid shreds tho (lots in our area tho). Seems like a lot of parents are mellow trail riding and appalled at FS bikes thinking all kids dont shred.
  • 1 0
 @Svinyard: my kid rides the reaper with the slack set up (64.5) and the stock suntor fork which I service every second park days. He has no problem plowing through A-line worst holes..
  • 1 7
flag Jaguar83 (Sep 27, 2019 at 9:07) (Below Threshold)
 @Svinyard: You care more about your kids' shock tune than they do. Wow. Lolz. Insane, haha. Helicopter parent much?
  • 15 0
 @Jaguar83: I do...I care more about his entire bike than he does, he's 7. Kids are dumb sometimes. I also care about his education, street safety and other things more than he does too...tire pressure as well and the protective gear he wears. When your 7yro rides some scary stuff that adults riding for 20yrs don't, the little things can make a difference between a fun day and an ER trip. We are the opposite of helicopter parents bro lol. Helping your kid send freeride gaps and helicopter parenting don't exactly go together. I'm just a decent sponsor and Dad mechanic. Half the time the kids are riding with the MTB team...kids break bones and get hurt, I'm just doing my best to ensure he and his bike is prepared.

Btw, bro go get your hands on the new Manitou stuff. You will be blown away at how amazing it is vs cheaper adult stuff. The fork alone is a marvel: dual air-spring (huge difference), their best damper, proper oil weight tune etc...yet the bikes are similar cost still. Its pretty unreal when you see it in person. Plus kids on tiny 24" wheels get hammered out there and traction is a premium. Guys like Lil Shredder have been making this kind of stuff for Jackson Goldstone on down for years...but now its OEM. That's a good thing.
  • 2 0
 @svinyard: the new Rokk run rockshox forks/shocks. I'm unsure what tune then have from factory but my understanding is you can run the new super light oil and remove any compression damping.
My youngest is on a 24lb dropper equipped Ripcord with light shock oil by Fluid function and needle bearings.
Eldest on a 26lb 26" VPace Moritz that does park, trail and even CX last weekend. Factory tune 32 and float DPS so definately on the firm side but he's strong and heavy for 9.
Trailcraft, I discounted as their standover is massive.
The Clash is great as a dedicated park bike though, but no frame only and 34lbs for the junior.. my next Enduro/park kids build for a 150mm bike targets 27lbs max 27.5/26/mullet but the list of frames out there to achieve this is extremely small and to do it affordably..even smaller still!
Totally agree on wheel weights.
  • 3 0
 @jonnyboy:
Sounds like you are into it man Smile . Fun stuff!
1- The Rokk has pretty bad geometry (438mm chainstays on a 24" bike is crazy...your Ripcords is 380mm/Clash 390mm)...it goes up to 450 on the 26". Suspension is decent (27.5 fork tho?) and could be retuned. It all gets expensive really fast on top of an already expensive bike. So better to buy a proper 24" and save some money.

2- Ripcords are a great frame (its 400g lighter than the Clash). I considered building one out (they are everywhere) but 100mm of properly tuned travel goes quick (stock tune holds up better to a big hit tho). Also I'd have to go with light tires which I don't want to do in PNW to get it light. The Ripcords and Trailcrafts that get ridden hard here are around 26/27lbs with really nice stuff on them and Crest wheels/DHF etc. Same with 3500$ Lil Shredders...not a park DH bike but kids ride the piss out of them on nasty trail rides (up and down).

3- The Clash, post upgrades, is just another Enduro-esk bike for kids riding those sketchy trails. Like a Nomad, Yeti SB130, Ripmo etc. Plenty of flow trails in the Park. Plenty of exposed black trails out in the wild too. MeekBoyz is a dedicated DH park bike for kids iirc. I'm not a fan of the 27.5 Clash tho...its a different animal, heavy etc as you pointed out and I don't think the suspension is special like the 20"/24" (which is truly nextGen and weighs the same as the 100mm suspension - pedal bob isn't a thing with the 60lb kid).

I'm not sure what to do with the next bike (27.5 frame/Mullet like you). Rocky Mountain's Ride9 Altitude is a sweet bike for doing the Mullet as the BB gets moved up with the chip. $$$ tho....crazy. Hoping for something used.
  • 28 1
 How times have changed. As a kid I had a big-ass, steel, rigid back and front, oversized city bike, and still thought myself lucky. I can still hear my dad saying “it’s practical, he’ll grow into it”. Still learnt to bunny hop and wheelie the hell out of it though.
  • 2 0
 Yep, I had a Townsend shooting star. What a piece of crap that was but it gave me endless hours of entertainment. Can't believe I used to take that thing on trails when I was 12!
  • 3 23
flag ninjichor (Sep 26, 2019 at 14:09) (Below Threshold)
 Such one-liners are found to be ignorant and oversimplified. When we learn better, we make wiser choices and at a certain point we realize the importance of offering *opportunity* to be connected to the big wide world, especially at a younger age.

Is it not valuable experience to expand a person's comfort zone to go well beyond the safety of indoors (or inside a vehicle), staring at a screen? Gotta beat the distractions with something more compelling...
  • 26 1
 @ninjichor: are you stoned? Pass it round or go to bed.
  • 28 9
 I want to be excited but having two kids who ride, the cost of these kids bikes is too much. Kids bikes are like kids shoes. Kicked about and out grown very quickly - and unless its an Islabike, there is struggling resale as its too niche.
Most parents that buy bikes like this buy them for themselves sadly and forget that their kids will struggle to get the heavy over (but under) spec’ed bike up any kind of hill. There is zero need for small wheel F/s frames. On a 20” frame kids are too light to get value from it.
Sad. But true.
  • 4 0
 I tend to agree. My boy barely moves the o-ring on his suspension fork.
  • 20 0
 I know exactly where you're coming from but I disagree....now. Kids bikes have come a long way and fork tunes are much more suited to the lighter weight riders, so I think they will get real value if setup properly. That being said, I got my kid a rigid but modern kid geometry bike because I think learning bike control without suspension is beneficial. Regarding the resale, I guess it depends where you live, in a mtb town, you can resell for 70% of the value after a year while that walmart bike might go for $10, so you recoup enough of the cost to make it worth it in my mind. The other thing is the far superior brakes. adult size levers or sticky cable brakes are often too hard for children to pull, the kids specific tektros really are awesome.
  • 12 0
 I thought so until I went to whistler. Tonnes of kids on bikes this size. Kids half my height sending it!
  • 3 0
 @Maestroman87: I agree with you, especially if you really want your kids to get into the sport, you need to get them good equipment, and you can sell kids bikes easily on the used market, for the same reason ilovedust says is a detraction, kids outgrow the bikes quickly, and parents are looking for the next size up without breaking the bank.
  • 4 0
 Completely disagree. These bikes companies are targeting parents and kids that majority of their riding is lift access. If parent is willing to spend that much, they will most likely send the shocks in to get custom tunes for their kids weight too. I never had issue reselling my kids Commencal Supreme 24" and NS Bikes Clash Jr. They sold within weeks via pinkbike or facebook.
  • 6 0
 I agree up to a 20" bike that the vast majority of kids don't need FS (lift access etc changes that somewhat for some kids).

My kid is moving on to a 24" bike, and so i'm hoping that the higher level spec (proper rubber instead of the plasticy crap on most kids bikes, suspension that can be properly tuned and adjusted for their weight instead of the one-for-all approach of cheaper bikes etc) will help give him more confidence. I can help him up the hill as his climbing muscles grow, but I can't help him ride a crappy bike over the roots and rocks.

Regarding the cost, my sons are 3 years apart, so we should get at least 6 - 7 years out of the 24" bike, and we will still be able to sell it for a reasonable price at the end (look at the buy/sell at what people are selling 24" bikes for). So value is subjective, but for me - this is worth the cost if it means my kids will be coming on proper adventures with me sooner.
  • 3 0
 @ilovedust In the park these bikes make sense. As everyday rides, not as much - unless you live near a lift-serviced riding venue. My son got to ride a 20" Norco Fluid at Whistler this summer and he absolutely loved it, rode confidently for two days, without any serious incident. I wonder however if there is some in-between niche suited for more everyday riding not requiring a full-face but where f/s might still be beneficial. Like a soft-tail design with a 80mm fork. My son's daily driver is a fully rigid Isla 20" and on our normal trails he's bouncing all over...but the Fluid would be overkill and no fun to climb with. $1800 is kind of too much dough.
  • 8 0
 Depends where you live for both utility and resale. In Vancouver/Squamish/Whistler these carry high resale value and kids can absolutely benefit from full suspension, bike handling/descending skills improve so much faster. It's scary how good the kids are in Whistler these days.
  • 10 0
 I'd also like to point out that these bikes are probably going to be purchased for kids who want to focus on mountain biking as there sport. Some kids want hockey, some kids want fancy football camps and some are playing on PS4's/XBOX Nintendo switch and cell phones all at the same time (paying montlhly fees for all of those). Others are sending drops bigger than us because their bikes are way more capable than anything we've ever owned!
  • 1 0
 @gramboh: I think kids learn more from rigid bikes than full sus. That is why all of our kids have done at least some BMX(and now the grand kids).

That being said. The 20 inch bikes were Front Sus but now as we move on to 24 inch we have bought a used Spawn full Sus and we are getting ready for the next kid(the third will get a hand me down) full sus. I would really like to see a shoot out review of all the top Full sus 24 inch bikes before we drop the cash.
  • 3 0
 There is not struggling resale, parents are lining up to buy quality used bikes for their kids in areas with development programs.
  • 5 0
 Lol your crazy man. Come to the PNW and try to ride the black freeride lines the 7-9yro kids do on some of the mtb teams...no park at all. Then go to Whistler. Then catch a DH race and see like 40 kids under 10yro FLYING, half are little girls. Then as you wait to drop into some chute on a random trail, a tiny child flies by and just leaps into the chunder steeps and keeps on going. Then you go to the BMX park and see a kid throwing 720s. It's just different if you live near it. Norco does. The kids scene is REAL man. Plus...mtb is way freaking harder when your 7 and riding 24in wheels.
  • 1 0
 @fabwizard: All of the good kids ride both BMX and MTB as well in some fashion. To easy to get a decent freestyle bike for 150$ on craigslist and send it. No substitute. It's often because of BMX that kids are shredding FS bikes.

As for a shootout, it's the bikes with the Manitou kids suspension...and then everything else well below it, aside from maybe the Lil Shredders custom but those are a bit dated in a few ways. But kids that really shred will do it on about anything because they've put their time in...but they'll find the limit of a less than ideal bike for sure.
  • 6 1
 I rode Top of the World with my friends’ kids last month—ages 6 and 9. Both absolutely use their suspension, and rode way differently than they do on their bmx bikes.
Stop being so old! The kids are bananas these days, and they don’t care what you think. Get out of their way.
  • 1 0
 @ilovedust Ahahaha.. I'm telling the same to myself. Makes me feel better.
(We have 3.)
Currently we have Ramones 12 and 16, in 2 weeks the middle one is getting a Ramones 14 for his 3rd birthday and by the end of this winter I have to buy a 20" bike to the oldest.
  • 9 1
 YES, good on you Norco. There is nothing in this world as cool as seeing your little man / woman on the trails ripping it up.
  • 1 0
 You should have seen the grin on my granddaughters face the first time a bunch of boys started asking her all about her new to her ride.

Then she rode away from them down the trail as they tried to keep up on their beat up hard tails.

I would like to add that the price of bikes is all relative. My used road bike cost $500.00, 40 years ago. Im sure with inflation that is likely up at the 3000 range now. But at 10 I was able to earn 1/2 the money and my parents paid the rest. Not sure how many lawn mowing jobs are available for kids anymore though.
  • 8 2
 There's something really niggling me about expensive bike for kids. Call me old fashioned, but back in my day.. Any kid could a afford a skateboard or used bmx with enough car washing or gardening in the summer.. But a bike like this is not achievable to most kids (if any) so it just penalises the under privileged.
Not forgetting how quick they grow out of a mountain bike, when a bmx or skateboard fits you for life

This isn't a dig at norco because I love norco bikes..its just the kids fs bike market I dislike
  • 9 0
 These bikes are so much cheaper than hockey/travel soccer/lacrosse a parent would be blessed to have a kid interested in MTB
  • 2 2
 @stonant: Why are they so expensive?
I've never heard of travel soccer.. But surely hockey just requires a hockey stick, clothes and skates? The skates being the most expensive..I would expect 250$ at the most?

My other issue with mountain bikes for kids is that they just want more and more. And one day a kid who's family doesn't know what to spend their endless money on, will upgrade their kids fork or wheelset after their kid begs.. and everyone else at school will 'need' to do the same. Yes, right now the kids bike market is limited, but give it a little while of more kids riding these bikes, and manufacturers will produce a range of premium suspension for kids bikes, carbon rims etc
Meanwhile, the kids at school without rich parents are socially excluded because there's no way they can afford to take part in this activity.
And to be fair, if i were put in their position.. I wouldnt want to take part anyway; A bunch of rich kids talking about the next expensive thing they want but don't need, and ridiculing anyone with less.

And I don't blame kids, they are kids.. But parents who spoil their kids cause widespread negative effects
  • 10 1
 @nordland071285: lol... you have no clue how much hockey costs... especially at Rep levels. Skates $500+, sticks (you need at least 2 or 3) about $150-300 each... but it's really the travel, hotels and tournament fees. It can easily cost $10000-15000 a year... and your kid better not be the goalie! For house leagues, it's probably $1500-3000 per year depending on broken sticks and tournaments.
These bikes are bargains comparatively!!! If you have a couple, or more, kids... spread it out over 4+ years and then sell it for 60-80% you paid for it... there's also the fact that you can ride and spend time with your kid(s) and that's priceless.
  • 6 0
 @nordland071285: parenting and thoughtfulness curbs the Unnecessary wants of a child. They Can start mowing lawns and washing dishes if they want the fancy upgrades. I’m not saying hard tails are bad for kids, I’m just saying that if your kid loves MTB ~3k for a couple years of fun is cheap
  • 3 1
 Well, hockey is more expensive than I thought haha But its just another sport that excludes those with less money.. It doesn't make this any better imo
  • 2 1
 While I agree 99.9% of kids don't need this, I've seen little kids that are already ripping the toughest trails and sending it. This is for kids that have season passes at Whistler.
  • 3 0
 @nordland071285: A lot of equipment is needed to play hockey. Skates, helmet, stick, chest protector, pants (armored), shin pads, jock strap, gloves, elbow pads and I'm probably forgetting something. Add to that driving the kids around, tournies, hotels etc. Hockey is probably the most expensive sport to enroll kids in. The equipment is super expensive too as they've adopted a similar approach to that of the MTB industry.

And if you don't know why you need all that stuff, hockey is a really crazy, fast and violent sport. Watch a big hit compilation on YouTube and you'll understand. The rules are the same in the NHL as they are for kids.
  • 2 1
 @nordland071285: the saying goes, the three most expensive things for your kids to like are HHH: hockey, horses, and heroine
  • 1 0
 @mikeyorange: 100% bang on brother!
  • 7 1
 To those who would argue these kind of bikes are "Way too expensive" I would suggest it is all relative. My kid plays hockey and lacrosse. Just to show up for a season of hockey is $1000 (for a 6 month season). Then throw in all the equipment- can be up to $500+ year depending on how fast he grows, Then tournaments etc ($1500 easy if you do two away tourneys in a season and take the family along to cheer him on) . Still worth it because he loves playing the sport and we are supportive of that. To me these kind of bikes are the same as hockey ... a nice quality bike is an investment in happiness, doing something outside that is healthy(not staring at a screen!), giving you the opportunity to make lifelong friends, and doing something you love even when you're old (just like Dad and his beer league beauties!). These bikes are legit and for those that value these aspects they will be well worth the money. Seems like lots of us who love bikes "outgrow" our fancy high end bikes every few years as well so I'm not sure we can argue that kids don't get enough use out of them either...
  • 4 0
 I hear this story all the time. My neighbor's 2 kids play regional baseball, which means they fly to freaking phoenix for a weekend tournament. 2 time runners up in their national tournament and at 13 years old they already know they are too short for college D-II. My co-worker paid $10k/year for his kids gymnastics...up until her growth spurt. I'm all about giving my kids every opportunity but youth sports totally freak me out. Does the added pressure of "your new mid season pads are gonna cost $2000" increase the fun factor? Maybe there's a cost-benefit analysis or know your limits life lesson in there but I hope I can figure out a cheaper way to teach that when the time comes.
  • 7 1
 Written by Trevlyn Mayo Palframan mother of Olympic track athlete Justine Palframan.

"One of my friends asked "Why do you pay so much money for your kids to do all their sports”? Well I have a confession to make; I don't pay for my kids to to do sports. Personally, I couldn't care less about what sport they do.

So, if I am not paying for sports what am I paying for?

- I pay for those moments when my kids become so tired they want to quit but don't.

- I pay for those days when my kids come home from school and are "too tired" to go to their training but they go anyway.

- I pay for my kids to learn to be disciplined, focused and dedicated.

- I pay for my kids to learn to take care of their body and equipment.

- I pay for my kids to learn to work with others and to be good team mates, gracious in defeat and humble in success.

- I pay for my kids to learn to deal with disappointment, when they don't get that placing or title they'd hoped for, but still they go back week after week giving it their best shot.

- I pay for my kids to learn to make and accomplish goals.

- I pay for my kids to respect, not only themselves, but other riders, officials and coaches.

- I pay for my kids to learn that it takes hours and hours, years and years of hard work and practice to create a champion and that success does not happen overnight.

- I pay for my kids to be proud of small achievements, and to work towards long term goals.

- I pay for the opportunity my kids have and will have to make life-long friendships, create lifelong memories, to be as proud of their achievements as I am.

- I pay so that my kids can be out on the track instead of in front of a screen...

...I could go on but, to be short, I don't pay for sports; I pay for the opportunities that sports provides my kids with to develop attributes that will serve them well throughout their lives and give them the opportunity to bless the lives of others. From what I have seen so far I think it is a great investment!"
  • 6 1
 I'm excited about this! I got my daughter the fluid FS 20 last year for her 5th birthday, we've ridden every single day together, trail, downhill, jumps and she did her first downhill race last week at the age of 6 and it really was the best day of her life because this bike has given her the confidence and excitement she needed to really get into it.. and love it! As for the dropper post, it's probably the thing she's most excited about when she moves up to 24 this Christmas! I'm sure fed up with manually putting her seat up and down here 15 minutes! This bike, a helmet, a Troy Lee jersey, some shorts and a set of kids 5tens from eBay and that's everything I've had to spend on her for nearly two years and we've had at least 2 hours of fun every single day... Nothing compares!
  • 1 0
 A DH race at 6??? Wow man that's excellent.
  • 1 0
 A dropper and 5tens for a 5 year old haha!! I can only assume you're a troll and this is a joke, with the obligatory yeti on your profile
  • 1 0
 @nordland071285: sense a lot of resentment in this and other posts. Does it matter how someone spends their money. Maybe you feel ashame of your ride because your girl left you for someone who owns a yeti...lol
  • 4 0
 Yup it is definitely an expensive time to be a parent, hey hang on..... I spent around a year ago around £600 on my 8 year old sons 24" hardtail, was it worth it? one word.

Yes.

If you want your kids to love doing what you do, then don't put them at a disadvantage, spend the money on kit they need to enjoy it just as much as you do.

The time I've spend being able to ride with my son I would not swap for the world. It given him confidence in his physical ability and trust in his dad (me) that I won't push him beyond what he is capable of. Plus the laughs, the high 5's, the mild panic as he disappears over the other side of a berm. Neither he, nor I would have swapped this for anything.

Would he have had the desire to spend as much time as he does on his bike, with me, on fun trails........ maybe, but more likely, no.

Having a suspension fork tuned for his ~30kg weight, 1 decent wide range 1X drivetrain and lightweight wheels (Stans Crest) and large volume tyres means he actually wants to ride the bike, he's not dragged out by me as a chore.

Plus, the cool thing is when other kids as school say aren't you into football, he says..... "No I'm a mountain biker".

Oh, and...... thankfully I'm not the only parent who's prepared to make a significant outlay in this way. There's now a good little group of parents who's kids are riding blue/red trail centre trails now for him to join up with all utilizing the filtered down tech just like the Norco's featured here.
  • 2 0
 That resonates w my line of thinking as well: "If I'm spending $ on my bikes and want the kids to be riders they probably need decent equipment". I don't think my 8y/o boy would have made it down the Una Moss/Blueberry/B-Line route without the Norco Fluid 20" he rented, and he's a pretty decent rider.

It was super fun for both of us, and I didn't have to stress out watching him cause he was in control. He would have been bouncing all over on a hardtail.

His friend unfortunately was on his own bike, a 24" front suspension job with 3" fatty tires, mechanical discs, and inadequate geometry...ended up with a fractured wrist. Just got too worn out by the terrain and laps, and stacked it up.

I'm going to make the kid shovel a bunch of dirt and rocks to 'earn' at least half of what his new bike might cost, but it will be worthwhile for both of us.
  • 4 1
 I am all for eating pie for dinner and buying bike shit for my son. He shreds on his DB Line 24, and is ready for a 27.5 now. But a kid dropper? Sorry, my kid is going to continue walking in the snow 2 miles to the bus stop before he gets that luxury. Dad needs to maintain his status over his son.
  • 2 1
 I gave in to the dropper finally after adjusting 2 kids bikes seat heights before the climb, at the top(and in the middle if mid decent climb).

The only problem i realized after installing the X fusion droppers was the kids were nowhere near heavy enough to activate the droppers. So the deal is now they ride up beside me any time they want to drop and dad adds some weight.

Still much easier than finicky adjustment with a seat post clamp.
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 @fabwizard: these bikes have custom droppers tuned for light weight riders...hopefully your days of pushing down on your kids are numbered...lol.
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 @fabwizard: exaaactly. The kid having a dropper that he can work has been a godsend...FOR ME. Stopping all the time on bigger days to adjust his seat etc is such a buzz kill. Plus when he is with the team, he isn't forced to do the same or just stand and pedal on the climbs. Kids need them a fair amount more than adults just because their hands are too weak to work the quick release.
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 Got my son (9 yo) a fluid 24 at Christmas and the progress he has made this year has been amazing. He is getting faster and faster. He's done a few uplift days and put a few OG's to shame. Having a kid into mountain biking is as exciting as doing it yourself.
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 Awesome work guys! Keep it up!
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 Good job Norco. the bikes look great. I'm going to get my kid on the FS 1 24. I think the size appropriate and quality parts will help his confidence.
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 f*ck that... my kids can learn on clapped out 7 year old hand me down hardtails. They'll become a much better rider, appreciate a FS when they eventually save up their OWN money to buy one (ok, I MIGHT help, depending) and making sure their shitty ride is ride-able each weekend will ensure they're able to wrench on their own bikes (and mine once they pass the 75 point inspection process).

You people need to learn to parent better.
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 how old are your kids?
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 @twozerosix: Eight, turning nine in Jan... Currently on 24" hardtails, putting them on 26" next season.
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 Don't tell me how to live my life.
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 @SpecSRAM: Eat more Kale!
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 Depends on the kid. If a kid isnt sending big/steep stuff, a hardtail is great. But watching your 7yro hit black freeride gap lines and black steeps at speed...its a different story and the bike will hold them back, and become a safety thing quick. Especially when their is exposure. I'm thankful to the companies making solid bikes and Lil Shredder for pioneering it. Most kids dont ride like that...but I know a lot of them that do. At 10yr...its even more insane. You'll see kids track stand for 15minutes without moving, jumping into black steeps instead or rolling. None of that is park riding either. It's crazy to think they shouldn't be on a fully while riding harder and more often than 99% of adults. What you fail to realize is that the mtb program for kids is getting crazy (not the XC stuff). They are producing lots of coached up kids that are super young and freaky sending it. Those kids are not small in number and they need a FS or will be at risk at times.
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 I was thinking the same sort of thing. If you’re gonna get your kids stuff like this they better be polite, gracious, well adjusted little gremlins. I can just imagine the sort of conceited, spoiled pr*cks that will be roaming around in years to come if people aren’t careful.
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 @SpecSRAM: why not? That’s a mainstay of modern democracy, telling other people what to do lol.
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 @Svinyard: We want to see more Americans in the sport, this has to happen. I got my daughter a Precaliber hardtail. Nice little bike and reasonably priced. Unless my daughter really gets into it, $1700 is a price I cannot afford to pay just to have her outgrow it in a year.
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 What type of riding is your kids doing?

If ain't lift access, then hardtail is the right direction, IMO.

I would be putting my kid at risk, if he wasn't on a FS w/ proper geo on the terrain he rode at that age (ie DH races or Black diamonds). He only rode lift access, DJs, and BMX racing.

You may need to look at your parenting, because my kid understands and is grateful for the opportunities and gifts we have provided.
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 To all the $$$ whiners: Do you even have kids? If no, you have no idea... If yes, have you ever taken your kid skiing? I happen to live near a ski mountain so we go all the time. Season passes for us 3 add up to almost a bike, forget about the clothing and skis they outgrow almost every damn year... so point being, as a parent there are lots of expenses in raising a kid, it’s nice to be able to chose some of them.
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 My kids has this in orange with a trigger shifter and an old Manitou sxe fork, both of which I had laying around.
www.amazon.com/Raleigh-Bikes-Tokul-Mountain-Girls/dp/B07D8LM2XC
$350.
Also there is a salsa timberjack plus bike for kids for $450: www.rei.com/product/124875/salsa-timberjack-20-plus-kids-bike

My kids isn't an amazing rider, but she is getting better every time we ride and I have fun riding with her. She'll likely be a pretty decent rider as an adult. If your kids are just pretty good riders maybe don't spend over $500 on their rig. I doubt yours was that nice and I'm also sure that isn't why you didn't win rampage last year.
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 Kids that ride well on adult trails are best served with an airfork hardtail and certainly hydraulic brakes.

If you want the best rigid bike, GT Stomper Prime is awesome in a 20" for 200$ on sale (has bosses for disk brakes!) or the Vitus rigid for 360$ with hydro brakes. Plus tires arent great for kids (rotational weight) but those arent too bad. The other stuff isnt great and the components fail fast and are proprietary (Raleigh stuff). You cant just swap out the BB when it rusts etc.

Vitus makes a fantastic 24" hardtail with hydraulic brakes (hand fatigue is dangerous) and the right cranks and Maxxis rubber etc. 480$. They sell out fast tho.
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 @Svinyard: the seals on the air fork were such that, at the proper pressure for my kid the fork couldn't rebound. That was on a 24" Kona. A light coil is fine.
Hydros for sure. You can get them for$ 50
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 I started buying old 26” bike for May kids years ago

My 5yr old is a bike fiend and broke down on a new commencal meta ht20. So glad I did it - wish I had bought it sooner!
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 These bikes are game changers , when my kids rode park on hardtails , we could only get 4 or 5 laps in . In their full suspensions they can do 15 laps . More riding for me , worth the money .
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 Anyone have any takes between the two FS fluid models? . Anyone have any idea on the valving differences between the x fusion and the fox shock? Will be pre ordering for my ripper daughter who is out progressing her hardtail!
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 I`m 45y-o now and when I was a kid I dreamt of having a motocross. My parents didn`t want and couldn`t afford that anyway, so I had to deal with my rubbish BMX instead. Now when I see the awesome machines dedicated to kids and how much they cost, I think I`d have the same reaction as my parents some years ago, if I had kids though Smile
Beautiful machine anyway. The kind of bike I could look at under my sheets a whole night if I was a kid Wink
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 I had a 24" Ripcord for my 7 year old girl on her birthday and it's been a great investment. Compared to the 30# 20" HT she was riding before she has excelled on it.
Cost isn't a factor really, she'll get 4 years out of it imo and I'll sell it and lose around $500. That's a bargain.
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 This is a sweet ride. Kids bike are still too damn heavy considering their size (and price point).

And the lack of 26” is really apparent in kid bike sizing. My 11yo is too big for 24” and a XS 27.5” clearly isn’t right for her height. She makes it work, but there’s a niche preteen bike line that would be perfectly suited to 26”.
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 About time! The fluid 4.2 was long overdue
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 I picked up a secondhand Transition Double and Giant XTC24 for less than half the price of the cheapest fluid. Put the 24" wheels and cranks off the Giant on the Double and boom. Sweet rig that I can swap the wheels and cranks back to 26" as my boy grows.
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 i'd ride the shit out of that orange bike...and i'm 29
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 Agreed brother. I'm 5ft 8. I reckon a large will do
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 @norcobicycles What is the weight of one of these? And also, could you consider putting shorter cranks on them? 155mm is too long for little legs!
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 Bike weight is an important factor for me and even more so for kid’s bikes. This should be listed prominently. It takes all the fun out of riding if the bike is half their weight or more.
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 Commencal, Norco, Propain, Trailcraft, Spawn, Prevelo and Early Rider. There's quite the selection now. Any other brands I've missed?
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 Great, now I just want to be a kid again ...
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 What a great time to be a kid/expensive time to be a parent!
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 I ride a hardtail and got my kids to understand they make you a better rider. They are not interested in FS but I would buy a kid's Chromag in a heartbeat!!
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 Damn, these definitely look a lot more bad ass than the sweet purple Norco Bush Pilot I rocked as a kid in the 90s. That last photo is too sick, go little rippers!!
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 Everyone has great parenting advice before they become one... so much projection and anger in these comments! Go see a therapist. Seriously. It’s never too late!
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 This new fluid will match perfectly with Rocky’s Slayer... with some paint. Dads get on it
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 still have a b -line that wont die !
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 I want one just two hang on my rear view mirror.
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 0ver priced. Why no frame only option?
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 Remembering me, The offspring kid aren't alright.
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 Way to go NORCO!!!
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 No weight info for kids bikes? Then thanks we will stay with Rascal www.rascal-bikes.com/en
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 Those rascal bikes seem like they have a much different intended use.
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 Totally different user group. If you are staying with Rascal I don't think your kids will be riding the same terrain as the new Norco's. Agreed that seeing weights would be a good idea.
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 @fabwizard: oh yeah for sure, at the moment, I believe they will bring something more aggressive soon
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