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Video: Off the Beaten Path - Extended Trailer

Oct 24, 2015
by Anthony  
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'Off the Beaten Path' is an adventure cycling film from First Tracks Productions celebrating the journeys bikes allow us to take. The project specifically focuses on how fatter tire bikes are allowing riders (from pros to weekend warriors) to venture to places cyclists have never been able to ride before. Fat bikes may still be seen as mountain biking's goofy cousin, but really, they represent part of the evolution of mountain biking. Early mountain bikers who were building Clunkerz were trying to create bikes that allowed them get off the roads and ride bikes in new terrain. We got to experience first hand how fat bikes are doing the same sort of thing...and we were both stoked and surprised in how much we could ride on these bikes that we'd not previously been able to ride. We also got to meet a lot of people along the way that were using these bikes in really creative ways to do their own things.

Now, I'm not saying that fat biking isn't still mountain biking's goofy cousin or that it's cool. But, it's fun. A lot of fun. And, it can take you to places you never thought you'd be able to ride and let you get out on a bike on days that you'd normally be couch surfing. So, maybe it's at least kinda, sorta cool in a way that you don't want to admit. Find out more about First Tracks Productions here.

Riding on a moonscape that might be really tough without a fat bike.
Supported by: Travel Nevada, Turner Bikes, Fatback Bikes, KHS Bicycles, Canyon Bikes, Lauf Forks and VEE Tire CO

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  • 52 6
 "Fat bikes really kick out the inconsistencies in a trail...things that'd upset a skinny tyre" - pretty sure f&r suspension does a similar thing??? Nice to see something different although I'm not totally convinced by this whole "you could do anything on a fat bike that you couldn't do on a conventional mtb" mantra that this vid seems to peddle. Besides those moans, I like the trailer Smile
  • 14 1
 Yeah possibly the only spots where a fatbike would be sick as opposed to reg. bikes would be on soft snow and deep sandy places like dunes. The rest you can definitely shred on a regular bike. I highly suggest people to stud up an old pair of tires and take it on some snowmobile trails and icy lakes. It'll be some of the most fun you'll ever have. This was an entertaining video, well done!
  • 14 3
 Keep in mind I said that in comparison to a rigid trials bicycle after riding a line I would not have wanted to try on any other bike without a motor, FS or not. The fattness gives a different kind of suspension that is just fun, and more like a motorcycle feel for me. Not trying to say none of it would be possible without a fatbike, but it sure makes some things easier, and a lot of things even more fun.

Anyway, awesome to see it made Pinkbike and I am glad to be a part of it! Also cool to see a shot with the KillerShot GoSwivel ( www.killershot.com ) made the cut, looking forward to the full movie!
  • 9 0
 Fair enough Smile Well my initial thoughts don't take away from the fact that this was a really great trailer anyway. To be honest, much to my surprise, you've actually done the seemingly impossible by perking my interest in fat bikes....just a little Razz So you're doing something right!
  • 7 0
 Haha right on! Thats the goal, glad you enjoyed!
  • 14 0
 I'm a little late to the party, and Pat hit on some of this, but something I'd add is: You're totally right that some of the places we shot are definitely places you could ride a "regular" MTB (slick rock, granite, etc.). But, the extra traction of those big tires made certain lines doable that I know I wouldn't have felt comfortable doing on my Ibis for example. That extra traction didn't just come in handy on steep descents, it also meant we were able to ride up a lot of things that we'd have to push other bikes up. All that said, I fully get they're not for everyone. It's not going to be a one-bike quiver for all but very few people. I still love my Mojo HD...

But, in addition to using the fat bikes on more variable terrain, I now find myself riding fat bikes more often that I thought I would even on singletrack just for fun. That's one thing we don't really touch on in the film - trails. We wanted to do as little singletrack as possible for the project. Though when things get loose here in Tahoe (by mid-summer usually), those tires actually help you ride faster on the descents. For example, I gotta brake before going in to sandy berms on the Ibis whereas I don't on the fat bike. And, even when conditions aren't loose, it's a really fun change - just a different ride. Thanks! ac
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  • 6 0
 I feel like the trials angle is a bit under-explored area for fatbikes. In the urban setting, if I ride my trail bike like I ride my fatty, I end up changing flats or with dinged up rims. It's nice being able to hit a square edge with some cushion, and not having to run ridiculous pressure to prevent bottoming. Love the trials in the trailer. Great job!
  • 1 0
 Now we need Fat Shocks to go along with these...the possibilities. I'm not talking like the Bluto, I mean way oversized cans and ridiculous burliness throughout.
  • 1 2
 Bring some old folks outa retirement if done right. At least for drops and some dh, hate to pedal the thing.
  • 5 2
 Fat tyre allows for more error margin, it does not get caught by rocks and roots. At least that is my short personal experience with them. Full suspension fat bike FTW! (I'm not buying one)
  • 1 0
 if you've ever walked on or ridden those granite slabs and shallow waterfalls that are so common in the Sierras, you know that there is surprisingly little traction available, so fatbikes could definitely make a huge difference there
  • 23 5
 Fat bikes are a clever concept, but I don't think that they will revolutionize the sport of mountain biking nearly as much as the video suggests. Don't get me wrong, I would love to hop on a fat bike and head to the nearest glacier, or volcano, or whatever have you, but I live in a region filled with just about endless deciduous forest. Like most people, the only place I can ride is a trail, unless I go trudging through a deep mire of fallen leaves and branches. Because fat bikes target such a niche community, demand is too low to sustain an industry. As much as I would like to see fat bikes earn a legitimate spot in our sport, I predict they will go the way of the biopace chainring.
  • 4 6
 Elliptical chainrings are back in a big way. Maybe fatbikes will come back with better geo, suspension and tread patterns which are my biggest gripes about them.
  • 9 1
 I think there comes a point of diminishing returns where tire weight and rolling resistance out weighs the traction benefit. Not sure what that point is, but I do know that on the fat bike I had, my 4.8" tires were hell to push around on anything but the ugliest train or snow & sand. Even then, only packed snow was really fun, cause soft snow and sand quickly became unrideable or a tonne of effort to get through. The best things about these kinds of bikes IMO is that they are opening people's minds as to what's rideable on a bicycle, whether the tires actually make it so or not. Maybe if Electric bikes really take off I might be rethinking my position, but till then, fatbikes will stay a niche product.
  • 6 1
 I can only see fatbikes gaining more and more understanding, and becoming more of a staple in the mtb world. They are not very niche if you give them a fair chance, or if the terrain you most commonly ride makes sense for one. Your only bike? For a lot of people in the mid-west and Alaska, yes absolutely. For someone who is primarily a two or three season rider with a focus on DH? Probably not.
For myself, the "fatbike" is probably the most practical and utilitarian bike I have ever owned, and has kept the window for riding open year round. Rides that are some of the most memorable I have ever done. Consistently doing 10-15 mile rides in the middle of winter on three to four feet of loosely packed snow, in the dark, at 5 degrees F! Make you say How the F*ck am I out here doing this right now!? For me the fat tires are one of the most practical and versatile developments in Mtb in a looooong time.
As a trail bike, they make an incredible hardtail for someone that loves a long travel FS trail/all-mountain bike.
  • 4 0
 @Hank-Riffee - you couldn't be more wrong about your prediction.
  • 1 0
 No, hank is pretty much spot on. We can all say anything we want as they are simply opinions. Once again, like the 26 vs 27.5 vs 29...they're all just bicycles. I'm not sure how people get so threatened by new or silly things. People love their 26" wheels...because it's all they've ever known. They are afraid other wheel sizes will diminish their quality of enjoyment and then replace what they have grown to love all together. And that currently actually seems to be happening to 26" until someone finds a reason 26" is better for something. The 20" street and dj guys are still threatened by the mountain bikes.
I, personally, just got sick of my own ignorance and two days ago rented and rode my very first 29er. I rode two hours longer and faster than i ever have. But also not a moron, there's more to a 29er than big wheels and i could feel that instantly. As for the wheel size i could WATCH it staddle the holes between tree roots that usually stop my 26 and even my 27.5 tire in its tracks. I believe in it now. For technical trail riding.
Fat tires also have their place. The thought that they excel everywhere is just fan boy talk. They were created for a reason, flotation. They will excel where flotation is needed, that's all. We've seen fat bikes on rock, bikes on slack lines, and road bikes in Whistler. Anything can be ridden anywhere. Everyone relax.
  • 1 0
 ^^ well put
  • 1 0
 I was just disagreeing with the prediction of fatbikes going the way of Biopace. That's simply never going to happen. Not unless there is no snow or sand anymore. Even then, I doubt the fatbike will become extinct. Too many people enjoy them in all conditions. I agree with everything else that Hank and Dirt said though. I have a fatbike, but I don't prefer it to my FS bike. It's just a nice bike to ride in the snow. Oh, and on the street in the summer when I throw the Knard tires on, it's pretty fun.
  • 1 0
 The real question is...how fat do you have to go to ride snow.... ON SAND.... boom. Mind blown.
  • 20 2
 Dammit guys stop making fat bikes look cool!
  • 18 1
 They're not really fat bikes......they're full figured bikes!
  • 8 0
 They're big boned.
  • 3 2
 Fun to ride but don't let your pals see you on one?
  • 5 0
 ...great personalities.
  • 1 0
 damn... shawty got a donk!!!
  • 1 0
 ...more to love...
  • 1 0
 Tyres are definitely the T. and A. of a bike. For me its all about the nipples and zits.
  • 1 0
 BBW!!! Big Beautiful Wheels!
  • 1 0
 They're positively "Rubenesque"!
  • 11 1
 Not a huge fat bike guy but this movie looks awesome.
  • 8 2
 When i first got on a mountain bike (a fully rigid GT Tequesta) back in the 90's I was used to riding a skinny tired road bike. The 26x1.95 tires felt huge and i couldn't help wanting to ride over everything, obstacles, roots, rocks, enormous fun. My fat bike experience was the same way. It has inspired the same grinning ear to ear, fun feeling of wanting to ride those big monster truck wheels over everything i can. Not always the fastest option and not always the best bike for the situation but a lot of fun. It takes me back to the reason i got into mountain biking.
  • 4 0
 Forgot to mention the second song in the trailer is "The Rentals" track "It's Time to Come Home". Really glad to have gotten the chance to use that song in the trailer. So, thanks to The Rentals, Polyvinyl Records and Bank Robber Music for working with us to make that happen. And, thanks for checking this out. This project has been a labor of love and we really didn't know exactly where it'd take us early on. Along the way we got to meet some amazing people with a true passion for riding bikes.
  • 10 6
 I saw very little in that video that a regular mountain bike wouldn't do better. I'll grab my board for snow and my beach towel for sand.
  • 2 0
 That vid was awesome.

Not because 'Fat Bikes', but because it made me want to go and ride some proper adventure terrain. Sure Fatbikes are great for some very particular terrain but i'd like to ride most of that on my Bronson, bar the snow and sand maybe.

Liked the vid a lot either way. Gave me a few goosebumps at the though of riding through a waterfall on some high mountain pass. Something thats not really an option in the UK, at least definitely not with the sun out. ;-)
  • 2 0
 Cool video, fat bikes are fun to ride especially in the snow but you have to be careful when veering off the track as you can immediately punch through and superman. More importantly this video got me to thinking into loading up the truck and checking out new areas to ride in around the country.
  • 4 0
 Everything looks nice when you film it in some of the most scenic places around the world...
  • 2 0
 The next time I want to nip down my local snow covered peak that blends later into a dessert landscape, I´ll know which bike to reach for. Seriously though, the phrase "clutch at straws" springs to mind.
  • 2 0
 The bikes "take it to the next level". What's the next level, then? 6" wide tires? Cool video, and I applaud them for getting out and exploring, but a bit too preachy for a little fad.
  • 1 0
 that last shot is from Cathedral Gorge State Park in Lincoln County Nevada! Really no need to fat bike through there, but there are other places in the area that would be great for big tires. Lincoln County is also where BLM is planning to build a sweet trail system (in Caliente) through some really prime high desert landscapes. Eastern Nevada has some real potential and is just starting to be developed. Keep an eye on the high desert friends and come ride!
  • 1 0
 I like my fat bike but have honestly never been tempted to even try it in the summer. In snowy conditions (4 months of every year) it is my favourite thing. Replace every scene in this video that isn't in snow, deep sand, or tundra with someone riding a trainer and then more people might catch on. If you love riding bikes and live somewhere with real winter, you either enjoy winter, discovering different ways of riding at night and in all the different snow conditions or you ride a trainer and start to hate your bike.
  • 4 0
 Rumor is that after next year all fat bikes will have 27.5" wheels.
  • 4 0
 *all Trek fatbikes maybe
  • 5 1
 So pretty much "Where the Trail Ends" on fat bikes, with no free riding?
  • 3 0
 All I need is a nearly unlimited travel budget, a 4x4 on location, and a helicopter, and I'll buy a fat bike.
  • 3 3
 Is that how you sell fat bikes? put it on PB and people will be convinced. I rode one of those and go tired of pedaling since the tires contact surface is high then ground resistance increases. You can have fun 20 min then trow it away. Glad for those who found it fun in sand and snow.
  • 3 3
 Amazing scenery, clever editing and cool music but overall I found this really pretty boring and quite lame. I have no opinion on fat bikes whatsoever - they may be super cool things to ride for what I know - but all of the lines shown in this video only last about two seconds, in addtiton to all looking really slow... It sure failed to convince me that fat bikes really are all the fun they're meant to be...
  • 1 0
 Well it is a trailer. Gotta save something for the final release.
  • 1 1
 Pfffft. This movie already came out, but the story line was cooler, and the bikes were of the more regular tyre width. They claimed it was all happening in the UnReal world, but I'm pretty sure I just saw a few of the same spots on this trailer...
  • 2 0
 Well, i really have to admit, this vid changed my view of those FatBikes completly from "Wtf i never wanna use one" to "Okay, maybe i should test one"
  • 2 0
 my daughter was like, has anyone ever ridden a bike on the moon before? I said no, and it defo wont be a fat bike as they are way too heavy. #crushingdreamseveryday
  • 1 0
 confused, surely that would help & it would feel 40% lighter anyway
  • 2 0
 Im thinking a Fat bike with no suspension is about having fun on a simple bike. Its not better than any other bike. Just fun.
  • 3 0
 Well the older I get the fatter I seem to get. Looks so fun!
  • 5 3
 fat bikes will only be acceptable on snow, but with that being said I really want to ride one. fuck being cool
  • 5 4
 i would be willing to bet that fat bikes are a fad that will be gone in a couple of years. that being said, this vid sure makes them look like a fun ride.
  • 5 1
 Love it!
  • 2 1
 Kind of sucks you in with all the scenic locations, feel good music and familiar childhood memories. But there's still and elephant in the room. ...so to speak.
  • 1 0
 "You could do anything on a fat bike that you couldn't do on a conventional mtb" Did I miss the fat Bike at RedBull this year?
  • 5 6
 Buy Fat Bike or.........a new Gun(s), kayak, snowboard and gear, high end computer or anything else i would spend $2000 on. Ill just ride my $6000 AM bike and be happy i have that. If i was stupid rich maybe, but im not.
  • 2 0
 Riding by that arch legal?
  • 1 1
 anybody know the locations of those open rock faces (granite) - is that the sierras? or where in utah they rode those arches?
  • 2 1
 They should change the topic to "Fat bike commercial".
  • 1 1
 Shit I best "go lie down or something" and not ride my normal bike seen as I dont ride a fat bike in the snow.
  • 1 0
 Liz! I knew that girl looked familiar. Change for a nickel? Wink
  • 1 0
 but what's with all the riding the snow...does nobody ski anymore???
  • 4 4
 FOX, Please make a 150mm travel Kashima fork and I'll buy one. TIA
  • 3 2
 For the record, no one, makes a decent fork for fat bikes yet. The Foes Mutz would be be so awesome with a real fork.
  • 1 0
 The 110mm usd that Sandman make/licence looks pretty good, thought about putting one of those on a Mutz long ago.
  • 1 0
 I've only heard those forks aren't that great. The Foes Mutz is a 5.5 inch travel frame, built DH strong. I'd want a 150 or 160mm fork for it w/ either 150 or 142mm axle spacing. (The Tune hubs look pretty nice)

I've got 3 friends that have them, they are super fun but I can't go back to 2005 fork technology if I'm gonna buy one.
  • 2 0
 fair enough, I haven't seen any reviews & yea they're a bit short but for 1000 euro I thought they would be ok at least.
  • 1 0
 MRP Stage would be nice. Talked to them already, they get a lot of calls for it but no plans to make one yet.
  • 8 8
 Wow, that is really boring!
  • 2 4
 According to that narrator, the next thing you know we'll be having "conventional wheel sizes ain't dead" videos Facepalm
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