OneUp Announces New Carbon E-Bar Designed for Compliance

 Shit I'm still phuckin wit 25.4 Monkeybars tho.

 Exactly. I've got Enve M9 bars with 31.8 and they are badass. That being said, I love OneUp. They are fantastic and I'm guessing these bars are too. They say these are 20% more compliant than any DH bars tho...I wonder how they come with that? Maybe they ride nicer than the Enve's

 @BWildProductions that isn't strictly true.

 Amen

 @mtb-scotland: Obviously. I was just trying to make a funny.

 That's more of a complaint

 Thays been my go-to on new bikes. Pedals, saddle, gripshandlebarstem all get swapped out before I ride. Not a fan of the 35mm clamp.

 @KeithShred: same

 They should try 28.99!

 I honestly don't understand "compliant" bars. I had some carbon Easton Havocs and they flexed so badly when you'd yank up on them, it was the WORST feeling. If you need compliant bars set your suspension up better or switch to push on (not lock on) grips for more dampening.

 So where do flex stays fall on the good-bad bendy continuum?

 @sjma: good while in warranty

 @CTDchris: i would argue that the effect is noticeable on the oneup bars. They definitely take a bit of the sting out of harsh vibrations

 @drakefan705: Who are you arguing with?

 That's brilliant actually.

 It's not the same, and it's not any more expensive than their analog carbon bar. Ebike specific bars have indents/holes for Di2 cable routing and specific layup for the higher loads involved.(boomer dad-bods) Even the internet engineers would agree that you cant just drill a hole in a regular MTB bar and slap it on there. The stock alloy bar that came on my Meta was an absolute hand killer. After much searching Santa Cruz was the only company that made a carbon bar for Ebikes at the time. Go figure SC it's way more expensive than this, and yea it's a 35mm bar but I would rank it next to my 31.8 bars for feel. Props to Oneup for bringing another option in without e-pricing.

 How compliant are your knees?

 @PhoS: "specific layup for the higher loads involved.(boomer dad-bods)"

That's not e-specific, that's big rider specific. Why wouldn't this be in the normal bar, since it can still be done with compliance (allegedly)?

 @justinfoil: That's called a joke, but an e-bike bar is going to more closely laid up to a DH bar vs. a trail bar.

 @PhoS: Half a joke, since you just reiterated specific layup. But why? If dad-bods is a joke, then e-bikes aren't holding up more... and if it's even remotely not-a-joke, why wouldn't those dad-bods want the same support on regular bikes?. Allegedly e-bikes don't help with speeds on descents... so why would they need a DH bar if they're just electrified _trail_ bikes?

 @PhoS: why does the layup need to be different though? Ebikes don't give the rider more strength to push back against the bar. They'll still crumple over the front end the same way when they can't hold their weight anymore...

 @justinfoil: Because of the majority of them are long travel with higher ASTM classification? Not sure why this is so hard to understand?

 @justinfoil: I am still a little confused.. I am a dad-bod i.e. fat dude, and I wasn't even aware there is bars that are more compliant than others.. or what compliant even means in that case... I use carbon bars on my bikes, yet I ride them down any sort of trail.. why would I need bars specifically for an Ebike, if i rode one? Other than the hole for the remote? Shouldn't it all be strong enough to hold the impact, no matter what bike?

 @saladdodger: That's what I'm saying. Everyone is touting "e" shit with claims about being stronger or more compliant to handle 15 lbs more bike, while meanwhile other are saying ebikes have zero extra impact on the trails. No external impact but somehow a need for things strong enough to handle the "demands of an ebike"? Makes no sense. Besides that insanity, the range of riders weights is somewhere above 100 pounds, but there wasn't really ever any marketing of specific things for light or heavy riders. (Sure, there is some very-light to ultra-light stuff with weight limits, but that's different.)

 @PhoS: And there aren't regular bikes with those travels and classifications? Why wouldn't bars like this be a great for fit for any long travel ASTM 4 or 5 level bikes? Why the stupid "e" label?

Are e-bikes just bikes with assistance, or are they something different that needs all kinds of special shit (like this bar) to account for 15 extra pounds and hundreds of extra watts? Because we're getting both sides of this, and it's not a good look for the industry. People who want trail access will claim the former and say the "e" label doesn't matter, but (some of the same) people with shit to sell will claim the latter and say the "e" label is hugely important. It's f*cking stupid.

 @justinfoil: Did you miss the part about the Di2 cable routing/moulding? This is going to affect the feel of the bar so why have it on a normal bar if you don't need it?

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 @PhoS: "Our patented design ... maximize vertical compliance. ... delivers a more comfortable ride without sacrificing steering response or strength"

Isn't the whole point of this is that it's better overall _plus_ e-routing?

 @justinfoil: Yes, I'm still not sure what you're complaining about though? Two products are required , one with E-specific features and one without.

 So.... what was the diameter then?

 @kcy4130: if it's a SRAM vibrator, it's probably 35.99mm.

 im pickin up good vibrations

 Makes we wanna go to Z-Bar instead.

 @KeithShred: "What's a Z-bar?"
"if you have to ask you can't afford it"

 It will probably drain your wallet first.

 @colleylucas: hahahaha

 YES I agonise over the compliance of the OneUp ovals, vs the backsweep of SQlabs, have one on each bike. Great in what they do, would be a dream to combine it.

 same here! My hands often go numb with bars less than 9deg of backsweep. The only 10deg+ backsweep carbon bars besides 250 euro SQ lab bars are my old ibis HiFi bars which I keep transferring to new bikes. I'm trying out the aluminum PNW range bars on my more burly bike because they have a 10deg backsweep.
There's a definite lack of 10deg+ backsweep carbon bars in the market though. None affordable. None with more than 35mm of rise.

 yes high rise 12 and 14 degrees of backsweep. Love sq lab backsweep, but would like more compliance and rise.

 just drill some holes in your regular Oneup and it'll be more compliant too

 @iiman: Oh I remember those days. Bring back the 90s!

 Or we can just stick to nice well damped alloy bars that few better and won’t kill us if we accidentally slightly over tighten our grips.

 @iiman:

 More shit to charge and more bike inertia even the power isn't doing any work (most descents?)? No thank you.

 Sadly after spending the mega money, i have to agree

 Exactly why I went back to my 31.8mm alloy bars.

 deity alloy 50mm rise bar. compliant and a good bit less expensive.

 Or Spank. I have a 50mm vibrocore which is great, though I have no idea how different it is from the non vibrocore one

 @Uuno: I have the same Spank Vibrocore bar with 50mm rise and all I can say is try switching back to a 'standard' bar and you'll notice the difference.

 "$15K bikes shouldn’t come with elastic bands holding a wire to the bars"

The companies making e-bikes don't seem to give a shit, or a bar like this would have happened a long time ago and be specced everywhere. Kinda shows where most of that $15K went. (Hint: you can't find it on the bike.)

 Hate? No.

But they aren’t bicycles. And it’s okay if they aren’t allowed on non-motorized trails since they have, you know, a motor.

 @wyorider: Shit, does that mean I can boot people with AXS? It's got motors!

 @pedro46: Boomer scooters. I’m sick of being told e bikes aren’t a problem when they clearly are just because it’s good for business.

 @wyorider: Did you piss and moan this much when someone took away your 26" tires?

 @wyorider: simmer down, nobody is on your lawn right now Gramps.

 @thenotoriousmic: How are they a problem einstein? People having fun enjoying being outside bothers you that much, hey?

 @Stickman1029: Damage they’re causing to the trails is downright out of order and the hate we’re getting from other trail users because of the damage the ebikers have cause and just the sheer number of trails we’re losing or getting trashed.

 Heavier bikes can be more physically demanding on the descent for some riders and the arm pump can be mega. Having something that can dampen that can be a game changer!

 @cmf95: I don't know, seems parts are getting the E label just to sell more stuff, similar to how Enduro parts were all the rage a few years back

 @cmf95: Or you could not use a motor to supplement your legs to the point where the rest of your body can't keep up. Fine if the motor lets you go further than legs alone, but if that also means you're going further than your arms and hands can handle alone, then what's the point? Next up is e-Gloves so you can hold on longer?

 I don't get how you don't get this, if you don't ride one you might not get it. Guys say they are heavier, is a heavier bike harder to throw around etc. just like if you do double your normal ride that would be harder, more effort etc. , so having more compliant parts or better parts make it easier or better. Also e-mtb's dont pedal themselves, if you ride your regular bike at half effort, does anyone care? yes you can do this on an e-bike but if you don't do that on your regualr bike you wont ride like that on your e-bike, you will ride it to the maximum level you can and since you cant ride at 32km/hr up a steep trail or road then you have to work just as hard to try and do it, it blows my mind how many people think the are fit but have no idea how fitness works. An e-bike allows for greater and higher cardio, and less strength, if you don't believe that then, you dont understand how intervals work, you are able to do a harder effort for a shorter time until your muscles build up lactate to a level where you can not eliminate it out of the muscle and slow down, the best part of an ebike is you can hold that level for the ride above your threshold. This is how a fast rider rides them, I have 35,000km on e-mtb since 2018 and that is 3500-5000 plus vert per ride on 1000km a month here in squamish. You actually have to ride an e-bike to get them, if you don't understand how your body works.

 @justinfoil: LOL e-hydration pack so that you have more water to drink on those super long rides

 @norona: LOL if a mere comment pisses you off this much, maybe you aren't riding your e-bike enough or maybe too much. I'll leave it up to you to figure that out.

 @norona: Nothing there explains why it's better, or even good at all, to be able to ride so far and fast, by boosting the legs, that the rest of your body gives out sooner because it's not boosted.

 @cmf95: yeah, the weak, old and overweight folks I see on ebikes (and it’s pretty much always one of the 3) need a way to get further from the trailhead and ride harder…..

 @norona: how ebikes work is that they aren’t bicycles. The stock power is juuuust low enough to skirt motor vehicle regulations. There are several companies now that override those limitations.

You can put out 35 watts (just turning the cranks) and hit full boost, and it’ll be 750 watts stock, over 1000 on a modded moped.

At such low efforts, there is minimal benefit even for building low load endurance.

I know I can’t hold 750 watts for more than a minute or 2, and that makes me pretty fit-if you’re just using motor and twiddling the cranks what are you getting??

So sure, you CAN do a couple thousand kilojoules of work yourself on a Broped, but most people won’t/don’t.

Kinda doubt your power data backs your assertion, certain a large-scale fitness study would show a massive disparity in fitness between cyclists and Broped riders.

 @norona: people rode bicycles for over 100 years without the need for a motor , all of a sudden EVERYBODY HAS to have one ! Hooray!

 @cmf95: you obviously haven’t raced mx , if you had you would know what bad arm pump actually feels like

 @wyorider: they work off cadence and torque, minimal input does not equate maximal out put, again you need to ride to know.

 @pedro46: the same could be said for every improvement, suspension, disc brakes, dropper posts wheel size, I guess you don't use any of those, I was racing through all of them and the smae was said for each, but now you would be hard pressed to find a bike that did not have them all. cheers

 @wyorider: I do find it funny how judgmental people always pick someone they believe lower than them on the people totem pole, why don't you compare yourself to the most fit athlete in the sport - say nico, and the strongest, and someone more ripped and better than you and dwell on the differences to you for us, that would be more entertaining

 @norona: I do use all of those , but there is no motor powering them , only me , just ride an mx bike if you want a motor …….

 @matadorCE: not pissed , i just find it funny when people post who clearly don't like, don't ride and don't know but spew facts like they do. Just got back from a ride this am and electric foiling in howe sound where i saw whales so actually pretty pumped.

 @norona: Apparently only you know how to ride and the rest of us can't/don't/won't ride as far or as hard as you do.
I'd recommend more whale watching, and I don't mean that sarcastically or snidely. Magnificent creatures that help put a lot of things in perspective.

 @norona: The problem with ebikes is it allows people to access trails they have no business riding. All the best trails around here have been trashed by skidding 60lbs ebikes with 2.8 tyres down trails they don’t have the fitness or talent to ride. Some of these trails are over a hundred years old and they’ve been kept in tip top condition due to how difficult it is to get up there to ride them but not anymore. Also when have you ever known an ebikes to build a trail or help fix one of yours? They just turn up trash everything then go home. So e bikes don’t even have pedals anymore they’re basically just electric motorcycles. I’d. have no problem with e bikes just e mountain bikes. Takes some nerve really to rock up at someone’s spot and trash the shit out of it on your e bike.

 @justinfoil: E-bikes are great active rest day tools or on those days when you want to work at the gym and get a ride in without crushing your system. Riding 7 days a week on 100% effort, plus strength training can take a toll on anyone and e-bikes keep the stoke and pedal fitness high without destroying your system! Definitely recommend trying one out, they're so sick!

Based on the release here, sounds like OneUp's new bar will help you hold on longer! No need for e-gloves

 @thenotoriousmic: THAT!!!

 @cmf95: These bars don't really apply to active rest days. You're not going to be smashing downhills long and hard enough to destroy your arms on an active rest day. You know what else keeps the pedal fitness high without destroying your system? Road or gravel or easy traversing trails.

"Riding 7 days a week on 100% effort"

No one [smart] is doing that. But all kinds of people are talking about how e-bikes let you go 100% (legs) faster and farther and how things like this bar help with that. Doesn't really jibe with saving the ebike for active rest.

 Acoustic bar

 the analog bar will be improved to this same level as the e-bar, stronger and more compliant, who would not want the for their y-bike

 Spank are some of the stiffest bars so Vibrocore if it does make a difference is only bringing them back in line with other manufacturers bars starting point.
(NSMB not me)

 @pen9-wy: I am a big guy. Probably why I don't think they are too bad on stiffness. I keep going back to them for comfort. The vibrocore must be doing something, definitely notice less fatigue after park days

 Yeah. I see the unfit and weak out on ebikes near me…..getting further from the trailhead than they should.

 @wyorider: I actually am looking forward to the first time I see someone with a drained battery limping home with either a heavy bike or just one gear or no dropper. I will laugh so hard. Probably literally ROFL. Then after catching my breath and getting up off the ground, I'd offer them my backup light if it's nearing dark.

 This is a great statement I hear a lot, in fact whistler/worca banned e-bikes from the into the mystic/lord of the squirrels alpine ride and worca president said this is why, cause weak riders would go up, get tired then wipe out and it would be a search and rescue nightmare. But the funny thing is you know where the largest amount of search and rescue calls are in the sea 2 sky for mountain biking? On this ride cause regular bikers do that exact thing, they ride up get tired then wipe out on the way down and SAR has to help. so be careful what you suggest. A new rider by majority still knows when they may need to turn around, most people here would no matter the bike, so don't use the 1% to try and make silly rules

 It has something to do with the wired controller near the grips. There are holes and grooves in the handlebar. You can see it in the link; but it doesn't show it in the article.

 allows for the control wire to run under the grip to the end of the bar and through to the middle of the bar, eliminating it from sight , but also improved in strength and compliance.