Opening Weekend Survey 2018: What People Are Riding at the Whistler Bike Park

May 25, 2018
by Pinkbike Staff  



The Whistler Mountain Bike Park is once again open for the season. We once again set up for our (somewhat) annual Opening Weekend survey. The goal was to understand what people are running in the park this season and what gear is most popular in the lift line.

The usual rules apply, only we upped the ante this year and surveyed three hundred passersby for each category. Between 10am and 5pm Saturday we checked out frames, forks, shocks, brakes, derailleurs, tires, pedals, female to male ratio, helmets, and neck braces. New this year we added pads, outerwear, POV cameras, and goggles to the mix. And, of course, we also checked out everyone's favourite topic: wheel size.

Rental bikes and kids bikes were not included in our survey.

With a packed lift line on Saturday, we extended the count used in previous years in order to get a better look at the variety of bikes coming through the lineup. Each .33% now equals one bike in this year's stats.



Frames Opening Weekend 2018

Specialized Demo 8.33%
Norco Aurum 8.00%
Devinci Wilson 7.67%
Santa Cruz V10 7.33%
Giant Glory 6.33%
Trek Session 6.00%
GT Fury 4.67%
Rocky Mountain Maiden 3.67%
Devinci Spartan 2.67%
Knolly Podium 2.67%
Julianna Strega 2.67%
Giant Reign 2.33%
Santa Cruz Nomad 2.33%
Specialized Stumpjumper 2.33%
Transition TR250 2.33%
Rocky Mountain Flatline 2.33%
Intense 951 2.00%
Scott Gambler 2.00%
Hardtail 2.00%
Commencal Supreme 2.00%
Trek Slash 1.67%
Norco Fluid 1.33%
YT Tues 1.33%
Norco Range 1.00%
Banshee Rune 1.00%
Ghost Riot 1.00%
Kona Operator 1.00%
Rocky Mountain Slayer 1.00%
Santa Cruz Bronson 1.00%
Banshee Legend 0.67%
Canfield Jedi 0.67%
Commencal Meta 0.67%
Evil Following 0.67%
Pivot Phoenix 0.67%
Polygon Collosus DH 0.67%
Transition TR450 0.67%
Yeti SB6 0.67%
Evil Undead 0.33%
Intense M16 0.33%
Intense M9 0.33%
Kona Process 0.33%
Norco Vixa 0.33%
Norco Sight 0.33%
NS Fuzz 0.33%
Rocky Mountain Altitude 0.33%
Trek Remedy 0.33%
Yeti 303 0.33%
Cove Shocker 0.33%
Cannondale Judge 0.33%
Cannondale Jekyl 0.33%
Specialized Big Hit 0.33%


Frames Opening Weekend 2016:

Specialized Demo 14.5%
Norco Aurum 10.5%
Devinci Wilson 5.5%
Giant Glory 5%
Santa Cruz V10 4%
Trek Session 3.5%
Transition TR500 3%
Kona Operator 2.5%
YT Tues 2%
Giant Reign 2%
Commencal Supreme V3 2%
Giant Trance 1.5%
Rocky Mountain Maiden 1.5%
Knolly Podium 1.5%
Transition TR450 1.5%
Intense M16 1.5%
Intense M9 1.5%
Intense 951 1.5%
Norco Team DH 1.5%
Norco Aline 1.5%
Diamondback Mission 1.5%
Canfield Jedi 1.5%
Zerode 1.5%
Pivot Phoenix 1.5%
Rocky Mountain Flatline 1%
Specialized Enduro 1%
Banshee Legend 1%
Santa Cruz Nomad 1%
Turner DHR 1%
Mondraker Summum 1%
Polygon Collosus DH 1%
Norco Shore 1%
Transition Patrol 1%
Commencal Meta 1%
Scott Gambler 1%
Banshee Darkside .5%
Banshee Rune .5%
Banshee Spitfire .5%
Trek Remedy .5%
Trek Slash .5%
Devinci Fanatik .5%
Devinci Spartan .5%
Devinci Troy .5%
Norco Range .5%
Norco Sight .5%
Norco Fluid .5%
Norco Bline .5%
Specialized Status .5%
Specialized Stumpjumper .5%
Specialized SX Trail .5%
Rocky Mountain Altitude .5%
Rocky Mountain Slayer .5%
Transition Covert .5%
Transition TR250 .5%
Ghost Riot .5%
Ghost DH .5%
Saracen Myst .5%
Knolly Delirium .5%
Scott Voltage .5%
Santa Cruz Bronson .5%
NS Fuzz .5%
Evil Undead .5%
Morewood Makulu .5%
Ibis Mojo .5%
Cavalerie Anakin .5%


Frames Opening Weekend 2015:

Specialized Demo 17%
Devinci Wilson 13%
Norco Aurum 9%
Santa Cruz V10 7%
Giant Glory 5%
Giant Reign 5%
Rocky Mountain Flatline 5%
Transition TR500 4%
Transition TR450 3%
Trek Session 2%
Knolly Podium 2%
Lapierre DH 2%
Zerode 2%
Cove Shocker 2%
Kona Stab 2%
Evil Undead 2%
Intense M9 2%
Norco A-line 2%
Kona Operator 2%
Intense 951 1%
Specialized Enduro 1%
Cove Playmate 1%
Trek Slash 1%
Foes Hydro 1%
Norco Range 1%
Banshee Darkside 1%
Scott Voltage 1%
NS Fuzz 1%
Specialized Status 1%
Banshee Rune 1%
Morpheus DH 1%




DH Bikes 73%

Trail Bikes 27%





Forks Opening Weekend 2018:

RockShox Boxxer (all) 34.00%
Fox 40 (all) 28.33%
Fox 36 10.00%
RockShox Pike 9.00%
RockShox Lyrik 6.00%
Fox 34 3.00%
Marzocchi 888 2.33%
Ohlins 2.00%
Marzocchi 55/66 1.33%
X Fusion Sweep 1.33%
DVO Diamond 1.33%
DVO Emerald 1.00%
Cannondale Lefty 0.33%

Forks Opening Weekend 2016:

RockShox Boxxer (all) 34%
Fox 40 (all) 24%
RockShox Pike 12%
Fox 36 8%
Marzocchi 888 4%
Marzocchi 55/66 3%
RockShox Lyrik 2%
RockShox Sektor 2%
Fox 34 2%
BOS Idylle 2%
RockShox Domain 1%
RockShox Revelation 1%
Marzocchi EXR 1%
Marzocchi 380 1%
Manitou Travis 1%
BOS Deville 1%
X Fusion Sweep 1%

Forks Opening Weekend 2015:

RockShox Boxxer (all) 35%
Fox 40 (all) 23%
Marzocchi 55/66 9%
Marzocchi 888 7%
Marzocchi 380 (all) 6%
Fox 36 4%
RockShox Pike 4%
RockShox Lyrik 4%
RockShox Domain 2%
BOS Idylle 2%
Manitou Dorado 1%
Suntour Rux 1%
Fox 34 1%
Marzocchi Junior T 1%






Shocks Opening Weekend 2018:

Fox DHX (inc X2) 21.33%
RockShox Vivid Coil 20.33%
Cane Creek DB Coil 9.33%
Rockshox Vivid Air 8.67%
Cane Creek DB Air 6.00%
Fox Float X (Inc X2) 5.33%
RockShox Monarch Plus 5.00%
Ohlins 5.00%
RockShox Monarch 4.00%
Fox Float 2.33%
Xfusion Vector 2.00%
Hard Tail 2.00%
Marzocchi Rocco 1.67%
DVO Jade Coil 1.67%
RockShox Kage 1.00%
Cane Creek Inline 1.00%
BOS Stoy 1.00%
Push 1.00%
Fox Van 0.67%
DVO Topaz 0.67%

Shocks Opening Weekend 2016:

Fox DHX (inc X2) 26%
Cane Creek DB Coil 12%
RockShox Vivid Coil 11%
Fox Float X (Inc X2) 7%
Fox Van 7%
RockShox Monarch Plus 5%
Fox Float 5%
Marzocchi C2R 5%
RockShox Kage 4%
Marzocchi Rocco 4%
DVO Jade Coil 3%
Xfusion Vector 3%
Rockshox Vivid Air 2%
RockShox Monarch 1%
Ohlins 1%
Cane Creek Inline 1%
Cane Creek DB Air 1%
BOS Stoy 1%
Marzocchi Rocco Air 1%

Shocks Opening Weekend 2015:

Fox DHX (all) 28%
Rockshox Monarch Plus 11%
RockShox Vivid Coil 11%
Cane Creek DB Coil 9%
Fox Van 7%
Fox Float X 7%
Fox Float RP23 6%
RockShox Kage 5%
RockShox Vivid Air 4%
Marzocchi Rocco 4%
Cane Creek DB Air 2%
BOS Stoy 2%
Marzocchi Moto C2R 1%
RockShox Monarch 1%
Ohlins 1%
Cane Creek Inline 1%






Brakes Opening Weekend 2018:

SRAM Guide (all) 32.67%
Shimano Saint 17.67%
SRAM Code (all) 11.67%
Shimano Zee 10.33%
SRAM Elixir (all) 8.67%
Shimano XT 5.33%
Shimano Deore 2.67%
SRAM XO 2.33%
Shimano SLX 2.00%
SRAM Juicy 2.00%
Formula R0R 1.33%
Shimano XTR 1.00%
Hope 1.00%
Magura 0.67%
TRP 0.67%

Brakes Opening Weekend 2016:

Shimano Saint 29%
SRAM Guide (all) 21%
Avid Code (all) 13%
Shimano Zee 11%
Avid Elixir (all) 9%
Avid XO 5%
Shimano SLX 4%
Shimano Deore 2%
Shimano XT 1%
Shimano XTR 1%
Avid Juicy 1%
Avid DB 1%
Formula T1 1%
Formula R0 1%

Brakes Opening Weekend 2015:

Shimano Saint 28%
Shimano Zee 14%
Avid Code (all) 14%
Avid Elixir (all) 13%
SRAM Guide 5%
Avid Juicy 5%
Avid XO 5%
Shimano XT 3%
Hope Tech 3 3%
Hayes 9 2%
Formula RX 2%
Shimano XTR 2%
Shimano SLX 2%
Shimano Deore 1%
Formula Oro 1%





Derailleurs Opening Weekend 2018:

SRAM XO 17.33%
SRAM GX 14.33%
Shimano Zee 14.00%
Shimano Saint 12.67%
SRAM X9 7.67%
SRAM X7 5.33%
Shimano SLX 4.67%
SRAM XO1 4.33%
SRAM NX 4.00%
Shimano Deore 3.67%
Shimano XT 3.33%
SRAM X5 2.33%
Shimano XTR 2.00%
SRAM X11 2.00%
Single Speed 1.33%
Shimano Altus 1.00%

Derailleurs Opening Weekend 2016:

Shimano Saint 20%
Shimano Zee 19%
SRAM XO1 11%
SRAM XO 10%
SRAM X7 10%
SRAM X9 7%
Shimano SLX 3%
SRAM GX 3%
Gearbox Bike 3%
Shimano XTR 2%
Shimano XT 2%
Shimano Deore 3%
SRAM X5 2%
Single Speed 2%
SRAM XX1 1%
Shimano Altus 1%
Shimano Acera 1%
Chainless 1%

Derailleurs Opening Weekend 2015:

SRAM XO 21%
SRAM X9 17%
Shimano Saint 17%
Shimano Zee 13%
SRAM XO1 8%
SRAM X5 7%
Shimano XT 6%
Shimano XTR 4%
SRAM X7 3%
Shimano Deore 2%
SRAM XX1 2%





Rims Opening Weekend 2018:

DT Swiss 22.67%
Sun Ringle 11.67%
E*thirteen 9.33%
Spank 7.33%
Stan's 7.00%
Mavic 6.00%
Specialized Roval 5.33%
Giant 4.67%
WTB 4.67%
Raceface 4.00%
NOBL 2.67%
Bontrager 2.33%
Alex Rims 2.00%
ENVE 1.83%
Easton 1.50%
Santa Cruz 1.33%
SRAM 1.33%
Hope 1.00%
Industry 9 0.67%
Shimano 0.67%
Syncros 0.67%
NOVATEC 0.67%
FSA 0.67%

Rims Opening Weekend 2016:

DT Swiss 21%
Mavic 13%
Sun Ringle 9%
Stan's 9%
Spank 9%
Easton 4%
Bontrager 3%
Nukeproof 3%
Raceface 3%
Specialized Roval 2%
E*thirteen 2%
Kore 2%
Industry 9 2%
Alex Rims 1%
Shimano 1%
Syncros 1%
Azonic 1%
Giant 1%
Enkei 1%
Diamondback 1%
Hope 1%
NS 1%

Rims Opening Weekend 2015:

Sun Ringle 21%
Mavic 18%
DT Swiss 13%
Easton 9%
Specialized Roval 8%
Alex Rims 6%
Stan's 4%
Spank 3%
Shimano 2%
Syncros 2%
Transition Revolution 2%
Novatec 2%
Bontrager 2%
WTB 1%
Azonic 1%
Spinergy 1%
Jalco 1%
Giant 1%
Crank Brothers 1%
E*thirteen 1%
Nukeproof 1%




Tires Opening Day 2018:

Maxxis Minion DHF 34.33%
Maxxis Minion DHR 16.67%
Schwalbe Magic Mary 15.00%
Maxxis High Roller 2 7.33%
Maxxis Minion DHR 2 4.17%
Bontrager G4 4.00%
Schwalbe Hans Dampf 2.67%
Specialized Butcher 2.50%
Maxxis High Roller 2.50%
Continental Baron 1.33%
Schwalbe Muddy Marry 1.17%
Specialized Slaughter 1.00%
Schwalbe Nobby Nick 1.00%
Continental Trail King 1.00%
Kenda Nevegal 0.83%
Maxxis Ardent 0.67%
Maxxis Shorty 0.67%
Bontrager XR3 0.67%
Kenda Honey Badger 0.67%
Schwalbe Wickid Will 0.67%
Maxxis Icon 0.67%
WTB Vigilante 0.17%
Continental Mountain King 0.17%
Schwalbe Racing Ralph 0.17%

Tires Opening Weekend 2016:

Maxxis Minion DHF 25%
Schwalbe Magic Mary 21%
Specialized Butcher 10.5%
Maxxis High Roller 2 9.5%
Maxxis High Roller 6%
Bontrager G4 5.5%
Maxxis Minion DHR 4%
Maxxis Minion DHR 2 2.5%
Maxxis Ardent 2%
Specialized Slaughter 2%
Schwalbe Hans Dampf 1.5%
Schwalbe Nobby Nick 1.5%
Maxxis Shorty 1.5%
Continental Kaiser 1%
Kenda Nevegal 1%
Hutchinson Toro 1%
Bontrager XR3 1%
WTB Vigilante 1%
Kenda El Moco .5%
Kenda Honey Badger .5%
Continental Trail King .5%
Maxxis Minion SS .5%
WTB Prowler .5%

Tires Opening Weekend 2015:

Maxxis Minion DHF 33%
Schwalbe Magic Mary 25%
Maxxis High Roller 2 16%
Specialized Butcher 7%
Maxxis High Roller 6%
Maxxis Minion DHR 3%
Continental Kaiser 3%
Schwalbe Hans Dampf 2%
Bontrager G4 2%
Maxxis Ardent 2%
Kenda Nevagal 1%




DH Wheel Size Opening Weekend 2018:

29 inch 6.00%
27.5 inch 49.00%
26 inch 44.83%
24 inch 0.17%

DH Wheel Size Opening Weekend 2016:

27.5 inch 50%
26 inch 49%
24 inch 1%

DH Wheel Size Opening Weekend 2015:

26 inch 90%
27.5 inch 10%


*The 24 inch figure from this weekend is due to one bike coming through running a 26 inch front tire and a 24 inch rear tire. That bike was split .5% each wheel size.

New for this year, we asked for what people were running inside their tires.

Tire Type Opening Weekend 2018:

Tube 55.00%
Tubeless 39.67%
Insert 5.33%

DMR Lacondeguy
Flats 77%
HT X2 prototypes
Clipless 23%


Opening Weekend 2018:

Clipless 23%
Flats 77%

Opening Weekend 2016:

Clipless 27%
Flats 73%

Opening Weekend 2015:

Clipless 16%
Flats 84%

Also New this Year: Shoes

Five Ten 61.33%
Other 8.00%
Shimano 6.33%
Specialized 6.00%
Vans 5.00%
Giro 4.33%
Nike 4.33%
Adidas 2.00%
Mavic 1.00%
Sombrio 1.00%
Teva 0.33%
Pearll Izumi 0.33%


79% Male
21% Female


Opening Weekend 2018:

Male 79%
Female 21%

Opening Weekend 2016:

Male 78%
Female 22%

Opening Weekend 2015:

Male 84%
Female 16%



Helmets Opening Weekend 2018:

Troy Lee Designs 26.33%
Fox 22.33%
Bell 10.33%
Giro 9.00%
IXS 5.33%
661 5.33%
Kali 4.33%
Other 4.33%
POC 3.67%
Specialized 3.00%
100% 2.67%
urge 1.33%
One 0.67%
O'Neil 0.67%
MET 0.33%
6D 0.33%

Helmets Opening Weekend 2016:

Troy Lee Designs 33%
Fox 19%
IXS 16%
Giro 11%
Bell 8%
POC 4%
661 3%
Specialized 3%
100% 1%
Kali 1%
Suomy 1%

Helmets Opening Weekend 2012:

Troy Lee Designs 38%
661 11%
Giro 9%
Protec 7%
Urge 7%
Fox 7%
Bell 7%
THE 4%
POC 2%
Fly 2%
Specialized 1%
Mace 1%
MET 1%
Bluegrass 1%
Kali 1%
Suomy 1%


Goggles Opening Weekend 2018:

No Goggle 46.67%
Oakley Goggles 15.33%
Smith Goggles 14.00%
100% Goggles 10.67%
Ryders Goggles 3.67%
FOX 2.67%
SPY 2.00%
Scott Goggles 1.33%
Giro Goggles 1.00%
POC 1.00%
THOR 1.00%
SHRED 0.33%
Electra 0.33%


Neck Braces Opening Weekend 2018

No Brace 82.33%
Leatt 9.00%
Atlas 5.67%
OBX 2.33%
Alpine Stars 0.67%

Neck Braces Opening Weekend 2016:

No Brace 77%
Brace 23%

Neck Braces Opening Weekend 2012:

No Brace 77%
Brace 23%


POV Cameras Opening Weekend 2018:

No Camera 83.67%
GoPro Hero 8.67%
GoPro Session 7.00%
Phone 0.67%


Pads and protections Opening Weekend 2018:

TLD 19.00%
Fox 14.00%
Race Face 14.00%
N/A 13.00%
IXS 10.67%
POC 10.33%
661 4.67%
Dakine 2.67%
Dainese 2.33%
Alpine Stars 1.33%
GForm 1.33%
Fly 1.00%
Kali 1.00%
O/Neal 1.00%
Seven 1.00%
AsterISK 0.67%
Leatt 0.67%
Nukeproof 0.67%
Lizard Skins 0.33%
TSG 0.33%


Outerwear Opening Weekend 2018:

Troy Lee Designs 25.62%
Fox Clothing 23.84%
Royal Racing 7.47%
Sombrio 6.76%
Dakine 6.05%
POC 4.27%
Dharco 3.20%
Alpinestars 2.85%
100% 2.49%
Majola 2.49%
661 2.14%
Dainese 2.14%
Enduro 2.00%
ION 1.42%
Fly Racing 1.07%
IXS 1.07%
Leatt 1.07%
Smith Optics 1.07%
Scott 1.07%
Five Ten 0.71%
Giro 0.71%
Kali Protectives 0.36%


What would you have liked us to ask on Opening Weekend at the Whistler Bike Park?





More from Opening Weekend:

Video: Riders of Whistler Bike Park Opening Weekend 2018
Photo Epic: WHISTMAS - Whistler Bike Park Opening Weekend
Video: 25 Bike Checks from Whistler Opening Day 2018
Spotted: Is This Specialized's New DH Bike?

Previous "What People are Riding" surveys:

Opening Weekend 2016
Opening Weekend 2015
Closing Weekend 2015
July 2012



MENTIONS: @WhistlerMountainBikePark


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293 Comments

  • 253 2
 Nothing says Whistler Bike Park like the brave souls running a) Cannondale Lefties 0.33% and b) Schwalbe Racing Ralphs 0.17%. Well played sir or madame...well played.
  • 205 1
 How about the no goggles crowd. That stat really surprised me.
  • 89 0
 No chain 1%
  • 11 2
 Still amazes me how few riders are running TRP brakes. Are they spec'd on any other bike besides YT?
  • 9 0
 @yeti951SD: I think at this point they are still a lot like Hope- vastly aftermarket, rarely OEM. While impressive, this is also a one-day survey in a specific market, so you need to take that into account too.
  • 44 0
 no no-gloves survey ?
  • 11 1
 Not all heroes wear capes
  • 4 4
 @Trudeez:

Just glasses instead? I hate goggles.
  • 3 0
 @yeti951SD: That's what I was thinking, I have a Quadiem on my bike but that was because I got the brakes new, I haven't seen them come stock on anything other than a YT
  • 4 4
 I know a guy who rides enduro on a Cannondale XC bike with a 90mm lefty
  • 16 1
 I'm bringing a hardtail next month. Am I an idiot?
  • 7 0
 @gtill9000: You gotta go early in the season before the ruts and brake bumps take over.
  • 11 6
 @Trudeez: what about tubed vs tubeless? I thought tubed tires were long gone and went out with standard bb spacing.
  • 3 0
 @gtill9000: I've run my 29er hardtail in the park mid-summer
  • 6 1
 @rrolly: You run tubed if you rail stuff. A bunch of pros at windrock grt told me that. + freeriders use tubes ive noticed.
  • 3 0
 @gtill9000: no man, just be prepared for being fricking sore after...
  • 4 0
 @gtill9000: At crankworx last year I rode up on the lift with a guy who had his DJ bike and was riding crank it up. He was a local though.
  • 3 0
 They forgot the percentage of piff riders were rolling with.
  • 4 0
 Long live Pricepoint.com
  • 1 0
 @gtill9000: No, just brave.
  • 14 18
flag SeanBikes1029 (May 25, 2018 at 11:26) (Below Threshold)
 @rrolly: As someone who works at a bike shop, I will never run tubeless.

Why? The amount of people who come through the shop with tires and rims covered in the unholy alliance that is sealant and mud/dirt, asking for flat repairs. Such a hassle to clean that out and remove the mud/sealant from the tire (Any bit of gunk between the bead of the tire and rim will lead to an improperly seated tire making the risk of flats in the future higher and/or a tire that doesn't hold air.).

The people generally either end up leaving having a) bought new tires and still running tubeless (Stupid expensive to do everytime you get a flat), or b) they just say "to hell with it" and end up running a tube.

I'll choose to avoid the hassle and run a tube from the start every time.
  • 3 0
 @Trudeez: no goggles when rocking my rx glasses and I'm to lazy to put in contacts
  • 9 0
 You 100% Male, chance of picking up a female DHer .002%!
  • 2 0
 there are some dudes in old Jekyll with lefties,not bad but I must agree,a Racing Ralph is too casual for a bike park.
  • 2 0
 @gtill9000: You will probably end up renting a dh bike.
  • 1 0
 Racing Ralph how stupid the name actually makes a nice back tire for groomers.
  • 2 3
 @SeanBikes1029: Agreed! MTBers seem to forget that Motocross and Enduro dirt bikes still use tubes. And they get trashed way harder than our 30-45lbs DH bikes.
  • 3 1
 @rpb10276:
Its a bit more complicated than that, trying to make that comparison. A rear mx tire like say a Dunlop MX52 120/80-19 is 11.2lbs in weight alone, so about a third the weight of most mtb's.
And even with the much much heavier and thicker rubber, punctures are still very common, and at the higher levels people tend to run a tire mousse to combat this. They are quite heavy and awkward to fit a tire over.
If you don't run a tire mousse you run a heavy duty tube that weighs 4lbs. (Michelin Off-Road Ultra Heavy Duty Inner Tube 4mm thick)
  • 2 0
 Those Michelin tubes are made from reclaimed road apples.
  • 4 0
 @rpb10276: MX bikes also run on gasoline .... We run on beer ... They can afford to lug that extra weight around
  • 2 1
 @gaz552: 20 years ago I bought a green Michelin tube that never died, I realized after a while it was a DH tube. Quite heavy but super resistant!
  • 5 0
 @SeanBikes1029: As someone who's been working in a bike shop since the mid 90's and riding tubless since end of the 90's. I think you're doing it wrong.

Inform your customers how to deal with tubeless. Sell them tire plugs. (Shamurai is ingenious, although a bit overpriced). The only time I've punctured I couldn't fix on trail in the past 10 years, is either when I've smashed a rim or if I've run my tires so worn, that the side-walls get easily slashed (which is seldom).
  • 1 0
 @wellsb: haha - I used to do that. OTB was a regular occurrence and I spent some $ on better geometry and saved a boatload of blood.
  • 2 0
 @megatryn: Yea I agree, Ive had numerous issues with tubeless tires. They have 99% all been in regards to mounting them. As of late I recently was told a few tricks on that side, and now I have become way more adept at the overall tubeless setup.

Ive had days of 4-6 flats with tubed tires.

Tubeless? My AM bike hasnt been a problem. Ever. While riding.
DH bike? Wasnt a problem until my rear rim was so damaged it wouldn't seat properly.
As a side note, my current DH rear tire is getting near its end of life, and sure....it may have issues soon. But whatever, I have to replace it soon anyways....

To each their own I guess.

Me personally I have so many issues with tubes, its never been worth staying with them.
  • 2 0
 @KankleGnar: I have an astigmatism and can't see shit with out my RX glasses. I might look a little goofy with the TLD D3 and Oakley RX glasses, but at least I can see the trail. No goggles for me.
  • 1 0
 Just got my girl new glasses and was amazed at all the options Oakley offered. I would definitely rock those if or when the day comes.
  • 1 0
 @emptybox: thats a lot of people
  • 1 0
 @internalfyre: What's the consensus on running tubes and sticking a bit of tyre sealant inside them through the valve? I've done this on my MX bike because I got a slow puncture and couldn't be bothered to remove the tyre (its a horrible job), and it's been fine for a whole season, hasn't lost any air.

It got me thinking, you could run a tube for convenience, but with some sealant to fill those annoying pinch punctures when they happen and keep you rolling? Might allow lower pressures too if you knew you had backup.

Thoughts?
  • 1 0
 @Messy: ummmm you mean like we've always done before tubeless became a thing? Doesn't work for pinches though

You have not been educated in such ancient arts we see!
  • 1 0
 @Spark24: Apparently not... I always just ran tubes without putting sealant in them. What a chump.
  • 1 0
 @yeti951SD:the Slate T4 works really well
  • 1 0
 @ka-brap: It clearly is a very specific market. Almost no Hope, BOS, and other really good products. I have been running Hope's for more than 10y and at the same time on other bikes I've run other brands like Hayes, Avid and Formula and in terms of brake feeling and maintenance, I just love hope and don't really understand the sales on other brands.
  • 1 0
 @Trudeez: Marsh guard and you are good to go
  • 140 1
 44.83% on 26"... Who's dead?
  • 80 8
 Pretty sure it's someone with a 24/26 combo.
  • 26 17
 @brianpark: Specialized bring back the Big Hit!!!
  • 4 4
 @brianpark: the only bighit
  • 9 0
 Marketiers should!
  • 9 35
flag lkubica (May 25, 2018 at 3:06) (Below Threshold)
 That's not the point, they are lousy customers, they ride the same bike for 5 or more years, from industry's perspective there are all non-existent (ergo - dead).
  • 20 0
 @lkubica: yeah because everyone can buy a new bike every year.
  • 19 0
 @brianpark: and 27.5 must be a 29+26 combo
  • 10 2
 @lkubica: 26" riders buy exactly the same parts that 27.5" and 29" bike owners buy, because these bikes are made by, you know, the same parts.
  • 4 0
 There's a difference between dying and dead.
  • 9 0
 I'm shocked there are this many 26s left. Hopefully this will help bring more to the market. I was really starting to think they were getting killed off.
  • 16 2
 Guys, I own and ride 26 inch.
But the truth is that industry prefer guys who buy new shiny bikes. Look around, there is no ass'n'gay tire for 26 bikes, rim options are more an more limited etc. I wonder how is this possible if 40% of riders have 26 and they need probably more parts than guys with new bikes. But this is a fact, they want 26 die badly.
  • 6 0
 What are the most popular tires on 26" DH bikes these days??? Maxxis has a new 26x2.5WT DHF EXO out (I own one), so they obviously have the mold - THEY NEED A DH CASING / MaxxGrip VERSION OF THIS!!!
  • 5 1
 @lkubica: and I'm sure when they all mostly gone the industry will go back at it saying it's better now bla bla bla and then everybody will go back to 26"
  • 4 0
 @robito: I'm surprised too, but the bike park is going to give you different results than a popular trail head, never mind an xc or enduro race!
  • 10 0
 @showmethemountains: Unfortunately I only ride park. Smile
  • 1 0
 29"X20" 4life
  • 1 0
 @lkubica: Its a bike park and probably every man and his dog out for opening weekend, which includes people with an old 26" rig in the shed that otherwise hardly sees daylight.
  • 1 0
 I guess the 26's have just seen daylight!
  • 1 0
 @redsled137: is the tire wide like 2.5 or on the smaller end? looking at getting one
  • 91 0
 You usually have to pay a lot of money for these kind of metrics. Great detail right down to the jersey's people are wearing. Hats off to whoever compiled this beauty of percentages. Always look forward to this article.
  • 118 0
 Credit to new guy Scott in our operations team.
  • 25 0
 @brianpark: classic Scott!
  • 17 0
 What a farce, no underwear stats to be seen anywhere.
  • 7 0
 @brianpark: scott. what a guy
  • 29 0
 @brianpark: if Scott can’t do it next year I’m happy to do it in exchange for flights, accommodation, lift pass, food and beer allowance
  • 25 0
 @TomCastellani: Pretty sure the person with the Lefty and Racing Ralphs, doesnt have any underwear on his/her second run.
  • 4 0
 I wonder how they actually aquired this data and how many people didn't participate?
  • 4 0
 Good on ya Scott
  • 33 0
 @brianpark: Scott's a genius
  • 3 7
flag robwhynot (May 25, 2018 at 6:40) (Below Threshold)
 It's interesting at best. Statistically, doesn't tell us much the way it is presented. Be much more interesting presented with infographics and correlation data.
  • 8 0
 @makripper: he stood by the lift lines with a notepad.

He either has the memory of a super computer or the error bars are pretty high on these numbers.
  • 2 0
 @brianpark: I love how the new guy gets all the beaut jobs. Poop runs downhill, Scott. Wink
  • 9 0
 I would've liked one sample "Riders with last name across the back of their jersey"
  • 5 0
 @lake-st: What second run?
  • 2 1
 @ReductiMat: I was hoping it wasn't that rudimentary. I feel like I wasted 5 minutes now.
  • 2 1
 @robwhynot: Dude it was a quick and dirty observation of what 300 people had for gear. He makes that clear in the heading. With that kind of design you can't really make correlations like that. What are you thinking of looking at?
  • 2 1
 @dglass: They expanded the sample size to 300 people and invested at least one person's time if not more gathering the data. Just sayin' it would be more interesting to 1. vary how the info is presented beyond straight lists of %'s - basic bar charts and pies would make the article more digestable and 2. a couple of simple stats like "we noticed that riders who commonly rode X also rode Y". As a numbers and data guy, I simply stated a fact, the article is interesting, but could be more interesting with a couple examples of how. PB puts a ton of effort into researching, writing and presenting some wicked content and I feel this one, as an article the readership anticipates, could be taken to another level. But apparently the PB community likes lists of numbers and disagrees that some insightful stats and visually appealing presentation would be more interesting. To each their own.
  • 2 1
 @dglass: Some "interesting" bits that could be gleaned from this data:

1. How many riders mix/match brakes and drivetrain? Would be neat to see how many 1x riders are rockking lots of shimano stuff except drivetrain, see ho wbig they missed by taking so bloody long to bring a solid offering to the market.

2. Do people match kit? we have the brand of goggles, helmet, kit, etc. Would be interesting to see how many people are all matched and I'm sure the comment section would have fun with that one.

3. Who wears pads and no neckbrace? seems odd, doesn't it? protect ones sexy elbows but not take precaution against lifelong disability.

4. How many riders are "purists" - no goggles, no gloves, no armour?

5. Do trailbike riders or DH riders more likely to wear clips? Could be surprising answer.


Too bad the PB community struggles to see the diff between constructive feedback and trolling. Sucks that suggesting something could be better is misinterpreted as a slam on the article. And millennials get bent when we say their fragile... oh the irony.
  • 2 0
 @robwhynot: everyone gets pissed off when you slander them. Even old pieces of shit.
  • 1 0
 @robwhynot: they're*

PS: who says those neckbraces even work.... the trend came and went in moto
  • 73 7
 SRAM Guide 32%. Crazy park people.
  • 49 6
 The injuries rate is going to explode this year
  • 108 4
 There’ll be no stopping it.
  • 9 6
 They come OEM on my DH bikes. I have 2 pairs of them and every one has failed due to the heat/sun issue, but perhaps that is not an issue in Canada?
  • 6 3
 @CourierSix: Comment of the year
  • 20 0
 @Rubberelli: totally true, we have no heat or sunshine up here...stay away!
  • 4 2
 @Rubberelli: Interesting, I have SRAM elixir 3s on my bike and if I leave it in the sun they just lock up without the brake lever being touched, is this a common issue?
  • 8 5
 It's almost as if they work or something.
  • 3 0
 I mean you read lots of complaints on the forums but that doesn't mean they are 100% failure quote.
  • 4 2
 @wellsb: it turns out your SRAM brakes are working as designed
  • 5 0
 @wellsb: The version you have shares a flaw that other guides have. You can buy the replacement part to fix (plunger in lever). The revised version has been flawless for me so far.
  • 3 1
 @zidaen: our shop is still seeing brand new out of the box failing. maybe older production runs? but the fail rate is absurd. of my 3 pair, all have failed.
  • 2 0
 Oem and cheap
  • 1 0
 @VwHarman: that sounds great when it stays in the triple digits here for 3 months straiaght! Best of all, my Guides will work!
  • 1 0
 Yeah this was the most surprising data point for me. Madness!
  • 44 2
 Um so yeah, despite a multi-national corporate genocide attempt covered up by a complete media blackout... 26" definitely ain't dead!!! - 26" is the Tardigrade of wheel sizes!
  • 11 4
 I guess to manufacturers, they see the 40% 26” riders and identify them as consumers who aren’t buying new bikes so aren’t worth catering for. Tyres wear and once in a blue moon a rim needs replacing, but I guess manufacturers dont see the point aiming new products at riders who are down to earth and don’t want to just upgrade for the sake of it.
  • 3 1
 Also interesting how the most popular wheel size is listed first for 2015 and 2016, but not 2018... Subtle 29er hype?
  • 4 3
 @crazy-freerider: So bicycle companies are making bikes for people who are buying bikes and not for people who aren't? Madness.
  • 1 0
 It is mostly people with old 26" rigs just having a go. Makes sense in a place like whistler. 90% of other places you dont see that.
  • 44 0
 And there's @mikelevy on the lefty...
  • 29 3
 I'm pretty sure I saw @mikelevy on the new 'stumpjumper'. Must have been a knock-off though as it said Orbea on it. Probably a fake. Wink
  • 40 12
 So disappointed in the lack of Banshee bikes and Hope components and the amount of SRAM is too goddamn high. What is wrong with people Frown

At least Schwalbe are not number one tyre.
  • 20 2
 Dude You don’t have to be disappointed for these brands they sell a lot and work really good but they are super expensive that why not very popular
  • 17 5
 That's easy to answer for Sram, OEM ! I bought my Suprem V4 with rubbish code brakes, I had to wait a season to get the funding to replace these garbage brakes. When I see so many Sram brakes I can only think of that very reason for it to be.
  • 3 2
 @RedBurn: For what you get, they are not expensive.
  • 7 1
 @ryanme: I think I know what you're getting at, I'm a huge fan of Hope's too but there's no getting around that - in absolute numbers - they cost a lot of money and not everyone can afford them. Also: there is nothing wrong with Zees either.
  • 3 1
 I'm with you. banshee/magura/dvo/mrp/nobl/hope/schwalbe/contis
  • 3 4
 @ryanme: well in case of Hope that is not entirely true...you can get brakes half of their price which are better and easier to maintain. Wink
  • 4 6
 @themountain: love to see them! Shimano, Sram, Magura, Formula etc have nothing on Hope
  • 4 3
 @ryanme: Lol..you must be joking Big Grin
  • 1 2
 @themountain: I'm currently looking to buy hopes but can't find any decent deal... Would you mind sharing a link?

Thanks
  • 1 0
 Sram are marketing and business gurus. only reason
  • 30 1
 I am missing the percentage of people using water bottle vs. backpack.
  • 8 2
 I don’t think many people have water bottle holders at Whistler. Just my thoughts, Extremmist.
  • 1 0
 @VDR: I don't think many downhill bikes can fit a bottle cage
  • 3 0
 There's a water fountain at the bottom of the chairlift don't need to carry water.
  • 20 0
 So you're saying that some of the DH bikes had single crown forks? Unless my math is wrong (percentages are not my bag, admittedly), I see "DH bikes: 73%, Trail bikes: 27%" and "Dual crown: 67%, single crown: 33%". If all the DH bikes had dual crown forks, wouldn't those percentages be the same for both figures?
  • 56 0
 Interesting. We'll dig into the numbers tomorrow to see if something's off, or if there are just that many people running 180mm single crowns and barspinning everything.
  • 22 0
 Rockshox Totems are single crown and they're a great park fork at 180mm.
  • 11 0
 Perhaps a bike like Voltage fr is considered a DH bike but comes stock with a 180 single crown.
  • 2 0
 What if there were some freeride bikes that they classes as DH bikes that had only single crowns? That would satisfy the discrepancy no?

Some clarity would be fab tho.
  • 8 1
 Yeah that’s a bit odd. Different sample sets maybe? The preamble says 300 for each category, not the SAME 300.

No goggles WTF?!
  • 1 2
 @Altron5000: But why would they take down frames and not the forks attached to said frames?
  • 10 0
 Most TR 250s are single crown (2.33%)
  • 4 1
 @brianpark: Tell new guy Scott he's out of a job. . .
  • 4 0
 Demo 7, voltage Fr, truax would probably all be considered dh bikes
  • 2 0
 @Altron5000: that's probably the case
  • 6 0
 Dammit Scott! I’m trying to take a nap and this discrepancy is keeping me up! We want answers!
  • 2 0
 #Freeridebikesaintdead?
  • 21 0
 2% hardtails in 2018,nice.would like to know more, could be interesting article to read about who and how.
  • 3 0
 I ride downhill on a hardtail haha, Windrock bike park Pro GRT weekend.
  • 44 0
 just look for the guys with massive forearms and no teeth.
  • 1 0
 @rocky-mtn-gman: I'm genuinely interested, is it a personal choice or a imposed wallet disability like mine? I've seen a couple of videos on YouTube of hardtails, even a guy doing A-line on a 45650B on Whistler but 2% seems a lot.
  • 2 0
 @miguelcurto: Hardtails are just so much more fun and reliable. I have more confidence smashing and going fast on my hardtail than anything except a full 160mm enduro bike, which is too much bike to climb around at my local trails. My hardcore steel hardtail is way more versatile, and it makes DH trails way more interesting. Most people don't want that, but I like getting loose af Big Grin . If it costs less money and is more fun, why wouldn't I ride it? And that guy is totally right about the massive forearms haha. A key component is also good grips! Ergon GD1 are the best I've ridden so far.
  • 1 0
 @MoonboyMTB: I'm on the same boat actually, my go to everything is a 150mm steel hardtail, it started out of necessity to have just N=1 bike but over time I realized even if I had the opportunity to choose any bike it would probably be a hardtail, albeit Titanium one Smile
  • 2 0
 @miguelcurto: Same! My bike is a 150mm steel hardtail also, a 2017 Ragley Blue Pig. The most fun bike I have ever ridden!
  • 21 0
 i'd also like a field for how much debt their habit has them in...
  • 5 0
 @ogretrails: Yep, cash or credit? If people would be honest when answering???
  • 16 2
 21% women. that is better than most Trail Centres. I know where I am going to shop for my second wife !
  • 7 0
 I was there on Sunday and was thinking "there's so many women here...". I've obviously been mountain biking too long when 21% seems like a lot to me.
  • 1 0
 in austrian bikeparks it must be under 5%
  • 3 1
 I imagine the numbers are higher for women riding in Utah at the local bike park. However, finding one who isn't there with their significant other is almost zero. The good news is that we are Utah so you can have multiple wives Smile .
  • 3 1
 @digitalsoul: beer goggles don’t work as well in Utah
  • 3 2
 @HVAC-MATT -Odd. I didn't know you could "shop" for a wife. (Insert eye roll)
  • 3 0
 @lacykemp: he must be refering to the inflatable kind. Call now and we'll send you this free patch kit.
  • 14 0
 Props to the sir or madame on a single speed hardtail wearing Tevas!
  • 5 2
 Teva made sick flat pedal mtb shoes there for a little while before getting out of bike all together. A lot of the dirt jump pros were wearing them and a lot have continued a long time since because they were really good.
  • 3 2
 This right here. Best flat peddle shoe I ever owned. I was gutted when they wore out and have missed them since.
  • 11 0
 Pretty sure Noble wheels is actually spelled "NOBL".

Also, r.i.p. Zerode DH bikes.
  • 1 1
 these guys are the winners of this survey, well done NOBL.
  • 1 0
 Zerode are making trail bikes which is where the market is
  • 1 0
 @zyoungson: I'm aware of that, which would be why I specified r.i.p. "DH" bikes, in my original post.
  • 8 2
 Shocking news appart from so many Sram brakes (oem most likely until people have money to change them) is that there is still quite a few Minion DHR out there. Rubbish tire yet still so many riding them. DHR2 is class but not as many out there. Or it's the 26" crowd still rocking those because every internet shop throw them to your face ?
  • 4 0
 Was going to post this - are that many people really using the old DHR??
  • 12 0
 DHR we're shit. DHR2 are the shit.
  • 1 1
 That was the biggest shocker of the article. DHR being run in those numbers! @fartymarty knows what's up.

SRAM has the OEM market on almost absolute lockdown. Being the people in charge of component specs on build kits must be an awful job.
  • 1 0
 I guess that's the reason
  • 1 0
 And the percentage has gone up.
  • 2 0
 Pretty sure that's a typo, I cannot recall seeing a single DHR at Whistler this past weekend. Lots of DHR II, DHF, HR II, some Shortys and even saw a couple Ass-guys Smile .
  • 1 0
 @fartymarty: DHR2 is one of the best tire in the market,it works really well. Not the fastest rolling tire but tons of braking&cornering grip. Minions works really well in dry stuff,but not so much in wet. Today I think is hard to call shit any modern tire,even OEM tires in new bikes are good now.
  • 3 0
 @homerjm: You missed what he said.
  • 2 0
 @homerjm: yeah I know, I love my DHR2s but DHR were crap.
  • 2 0
 @gonecoastal: yep you are right...I miss the point
  • 9 0
 Like to know the age groups
  • 7 0
 nearly half not wearing goggles...
  • 10 3
 The chic riding the Intense, first photo....100%
  • 5 0
 That's Lauren Robinson, rad girl! www.instagram.com/laurenrobinsn
  • 8 1
 suprised how little the love for hope brakes is Frown
  • 3 0
 I think it's because of oem and pricing. I would love a set of hope brakes, but when I can pick up a set of oem xts for £100, I will
  • 3 0
 @jaame:
Parts availability is a big thing too. Any shop round these parts has pads and the shop knowledge to repair/bleed shimano and Sram brakes. Hope unfortunately is a crap shoot for that.
  • 2 0
 The Brits likely haven't arrived for Summer Vacation yet. Wink

Walk into any bike shop in Western Canada and you'll be sorted out with pads for SRAM or Shimano brakes.
  • 3 0
 Understanding of course that this is just a group of statistics pulled from one day, I think Shimano should maybe take note of the discrepancy in numbers from last year to this year. I would imagine that the boost in numbers has a lot to do with OEM spec, but SRAM is certainly more expensive no matter what, and they're winning?
  • 3 0
 Like others above noted: glasses vs. goggles

Also might be cool to see model year / age of bike. This may explain the prevalence of 26" and suggest how long park bikes last.

Another interesting read through is Ohlins at only 1 to 5% on Specialized at 8 to 15%

Next edition:
- graphs showing trends of say up to top 5 in each category.
- Based on already collected frame/fork data you could find front and rear travel distribution

Oh, and most important, bike colour. What's hot and what's not for summer '18?
  • 7 1
 why there is no wallmart option for outwear
  • 2 0
 Or Value Village
  • 2 0
 I'd like to see the same survey on a random, non-crankworx weekend day. Compare/contrast.

Couple more questions I think would be interesting:

1. What YEAR is your bike?
2. Did you buy it new or used?
3. How far did you travel to get here.
  • 4 1
 What Not one Spaz Enduro on the trails in 2018?!? Must have lost out to the big hit! Interested to see how the wheel size changes over time. Will 29 come to equal 27.5?
  • 1 0
 I was thinking the same thing -- not buying it.
  • 4 0
 Will there ever be a day when the Maxxis Minion DHF is not the most popular tyre at Whistler? Not in my lifetime.
  • 1 0
 Is it better than the minion dhr2?
  • 1 0
 Assegai, give it 2 years.
  • 4 2
 Do people not believe in neck braces? I absolutely wont get on a chairlift without mine anymore. It is just such an easy peice of equipment that can prevent such catastrophic injury. Surprised to see so many bare necks.
  • 2 0
 The sad thing is it seems like it was a fad. I know it doesn't prevent all neck injuries but man, it's better than nothing. It's the whole 'it will never happen to me" attitude.
  • 1 0
 Ride within your limits. Generally (hopefully) smaller injuries will happen before a neck injury. thats where people stop.
  • 3 0
 Hell yeah. 26 aint dead! They should do a survey for how many mullet hair cuts on opening day. I feel like 26 and mullets go hand and hand Big Grin
  • 1 0
 Its all old rigs that people hang onto because they are cheap. not a real statistic
  • 1 0
 Was very surprised by the number of people not wearing goggles, especially with the amount of speed you tend to carry in bike parks and also the fact that you will frequently ride in other's dust...
Also wasn't expecting so many people to ride tubes. I do use them, but for some reason expected the % of people on tubeless to be a lot higher
  • 6 2
 So 6% of people riding a DH bike with single crown fork?
  • 6 2
 Oh how the wheels have changed...
  • 11 0
 I'm actually really surprised at how well 26" is holding up against the 2016 figures with just a 4% drop over 2 years despite the apparent dominance of 27.5 and emergence of the 29er DH bike. It seems 26" is still very much alive and well.
  • 3 12
flag brodoyouevenbike (May 25, 2018 at 1:44) (Below Threshold)
 @gibbon-on-an-orange: This data is heavily biased towards a small part of MTB that is gravity. Do this at an XC race, which dominates MTB, for a much different dataset.
  • 17 5
 @brodoyouevenbike: True but seriously who cares about Lycra ?
  • 9 2
 @gibbon-on-an-orange: I think this is due to the fact that a lot of people have a 'park bike' and then a good trail bike. The wheel size switch was only a couple years ago so I'm guessing 'the average' rider doesn't want to shell out 3k (and up) for a new bike just yet.
  • 6 6
 @Balgaroth: Not caring doesn't make it less real, I forgot this was the internet, my bad, carry on.
  • 6 1
 @brodoyouevenbike: "Do this at an XC race, which dominates MTB" - Maybe in Norway. In California, it's hard to find an XC race bike or an XC race for that matter (though high schools still race it).
  • 9 2
 @brodoyouevenbike: XC dominates MTB.... ha ha. Around here they get 50 people to an xc race. Put on a gravity enduro and you have 250 riders. Even the DH events have over 100. Times are changing
  • 1 0
 @Huck77: How many 26 inch bikes at the gravity enduro? I ride a 26'' hardtail, so I'm not trying to prove anyone wrong or say that X or Y wheel size is better... just naïvely replied forgetting where I was browsing Smile
  • 1 5
flag Keystone08 (May 25, 2018 at 15:33) (Below Threshold)
 @brodoyouevenbike: lol Did you really just say gravity is a small part of MTB? Maybe if you didn't spend so much time weighing your bike and shaving you legs you could see What MTB is all about, and nobody cares what carbon and Lycra bs you weight weenies are running.
  • 3 1
 34% minion dhf.legendary tires but still would like to see a company outdo it that doesn’t blatantly rip off the tread pattern.
  • 2 0
 It's just because frank stacy designed all of them.
  • 1 2
 the DHF is basically a rip of of the earlier michelin comp 24....
  • 3 0
 @biglev: is it a rip off if it outperforms it in every way?
  • 2 1
 Way to glaze over that 26” tire stat...other then that this is by far the second coolest article next to the one that says something about a event calendar during the month of December.
  • 4 0
 Percentage of riders Faded or Nah?
  • 4 0
 Kudos to that guy who POV with his phone
  • 1 0
 Also, @ the Cannondale Jekyll Lefty rider - left handed salute to you, you must be one damn sexy ass mo-fo... if I had of made it to opening weekend like I had planned to there could have been like, TWO of us!!
  • 5 2
 Canada needs more magura brakes Smile
  • 4 1
 Would be kind of interesting to see the list stripped from rental bikes.
  • 5 0
 It was
  • 3 0
 So neckbraces are on the decline again?
  • 3 0
 There must be an error. If you add all numbers for braces you get ~116%!
  • 3 0
 Frames ; Aluminum vs. Carbon ?
  • 3 1
 So YT didn‘t win the market overseas? I wonder if Gwin was worth it or not?
  • 5 0
 It's a small brand with limited distribution against brands that literally have their own company store locations.
  • 1 0
 Interesting that the percentage of women actually fell compared to two years ago. By the videos being put out, I'd though that percentage would have been much higher.
  • 3 0
 I wouldn't read anything into a 1% difference. It's basically stayed static. Judging by how popular the women's nights are in Whistler, there are more and more women riding the bike park, but it's not reflected in the opening day stats quite yet.
  • 1 0
 @kingtut87: Very true that this data is only valid for opening day, and great to hear that participation in other ways is growing.
  • 3 0
 Four people (1.33%) rocking the Norco Fluid? Brave souls!
  • 2 0
 Would be interesting to know if they were on the new short travel version or the old school 160mm version. The 68 degree head angle wasn't ideal but it got the job done!
  • 2 0
 chamois or no chamois? and if so, do you butter yourself up or not Smile and across genders please....
  • 2 0
 I'm sort of interested in the type of helmet worn more than which brand manufactured the helmet.
  • 1 0
 Just a thought, if all codes are counted as one, why aren't see and saint counted as one. Same for elixir and deore/slx/xt/xtr.
  • 4 5
 My setup:

Santa Cruz Driver 8: 0.33%
27.5F/26R: 0.33%
DVO suspension
Maxxis DHRII
Shimano XTR brakes
Shimano Saint derailleur
Flat pedals
Fox helmet
Sony Action Cam: 0.33%
  • 23 1
 my 2018 setup :

crutches
  • 1 0
 Guess it should be "Atlas" instead of "Atlus" under the category of this years neck braces?
  • 2 0
 How about age group metrics?
  • 2 1
 There is no possible way there were four times as many DHR’s as DHR2’s at opening weekend.
  • 2 1
 Five10 61.33% HA. So for everyone that always talks shit about them guess they must work.
  • 2 0
 What about half shell versus full face
  • 2 0
 good on ohlins they really got their brand up their
  • 2 0
 Carbon vs aluminum next time
  • 2 0
 Man would this article ever benefit from some basic bar graphs.
  • 1 0
 @troyleedesigns must be happy, crushing it in the helmet and softgoods category... pretty amazing to me.
  • 1 1
 Surprised not more yt bikes and how mavic has declined. I wouldn't touch either with a barge pole but thought pb members were wetting themselfs over them.
  • 1 0
 wonder how it compares to 2017
  • 16 0
 We unfortunately didn't do a survey in 2017. I wasn't around, so they were probably slacking. Smile
  • 4 3
 Santa Cruz V10, 7.33%, Intense M16 0.33%, that’s marketing for ya
  • 4 1
 not really, the V10 has been around for ages, the M16 only a couple of years
  • 8 2
 @chrish: Fair point, damn it I’ve got to stop being such a cynical sod, I’ve beem hanging around with @wakidesigns for too long
  • 2 2
 Why does it say Avid Codes and there isn't a SRAM Code option? Codes are definitely not guides.
  • 5 0
 Sram Codes weren't available in 2016, 2018 third line down Sram Code 11.67%
  • 1 0
 How many are on clips n' straps? Gotta strap them clips yo!
  • 2 1
 That would be so different in UK!
  • 3 7
flag fartymarty (May 25, 2018 at 4:58) (Below Threshold)
 Yeah we have a little more taste.
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 @fartymarty: Probably more Hope products for sure!
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 @yeti951SD: and some tastier bikes made of metal.
  • 3 3
 And we don't ride park over here, just piss about in the woods. I'm a bit jelly we don't have anything like Whistler in the UK but the alps are probably better (not visited Whistler so can't comment).
  • 1 0
 @fartymarty: all smaller but plenty of park type riding about, Black Mountains Cycle Centre, Tidworth Free Ride, IOW MTB centre will grow and is jump orientated, Chicksands then other centres that are more trail or DH but still have at least one more park type run BPW, Aston Hill. For a UK survey like this BPW would be the obvious choice.
  • 1 0
 @StevieJB: Aren't there smaller bike parks around the UK? I remember all the advertisements in the back of Dirt mag for smaller lift access parks.
  • 2 0
 how many bottle cage ?
  • 2 0
 These are the hard hitting questions we want to know!
  • 2 0
 DT Swiss rims are best?
  • 1 0
 Cool to see all these data! Thanks!
  • 2 1
 No survey for how many water bottles people have on bikes???
  • 1 0
 One bike had 26" in the front and 24" in the rear.
  • 2 0
 it was the Specialized Bighit mentioned.
  • 1 0
 @whitebirdfeathers: you sure it wasnt one of the Fast as f*ck boys they all run 24" rear wheels!!!
  • 1 0
 This article would be so much more useful with proper data visualization.
  • 2 0
 Flats!!
  • 1 0
 Shoutout to my man running ALTUS at WBP.
  • 1 0
 I've notice Altus is on some otherwise pretty reasonably spec'ed kids bikes...
  • 2 0
 Bar width?
  • 1 0
 Post ride BEER preference?
  • 2 0
 Gaper Juice by Coast Mountain/Handlebar - session ale (Whistler BC).
Widowmaker IPA by Backcountry brewing - IPA (Squamish BC)
  • 1 0
 You know that 1% for 24" wheels is the FAF boys!!!!!!
  • 2 0
 1percent chainless. hehe
  • 1 0
 That must be the “Fast as F@ck” gents... No chains, cassettes, derailleurs or chain rings. Plus they ride in vans, shorts and t-shirts. Bad ass MF-er’s for sure.
  • 1 0
 Best survey in the bike biz! Cove Shocker!
  • 1 1
 @seraph
The Cannondale Jekyll lefty is twin crown so that may also skew ...by 0.33%!!
  • 1 0
 What about ceramic bearings or angle sets?
  • 1 0
 gotta love that one guy on a .303. Must be a legend
  • 1 1
 The am Enduro marketing machine is killing the brappy world of free ride. Sad
  • 1 0
 Wow, not a single spesh enduro this year? Something doesn't seem right
  • 1 1
 So the GT Fury from 0 to almost 5%…but why?
  • 3 0
 Rental bikes
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 @attdt: "Rental bikes and kids bikes were not included in our survey."
  • 1 0
 Wyn Masters!!!
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 @MSVF: Whistler uses them as rental bikes which means they get dumped into the local market for cheap at the end of the season. Also it is good brand repping as people like to buy what they know and will be a lot more likely to pick one up after having rented one.
  • 1 1
 How about grips/handlebars/stem?
  • 1 0
 26? 27.5?, 29? Other?
  • 2 0
 24" are you new? Big Grin
  • 1 1
 Stoned vs Drunk vs Both ???
  • 1 0
 What a sausage fest
  • 1 0
 Big Hit. Seriously?
  • 1 0
 26 inch 44% seriously?
  • 1 1
 Did 2017 WBP not happen?

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