Orange is offering a team-replica version of their Switch 6 enduro/trail bike. The bike will have the same mullet wheels and 145mm/160mm travel layout as the existing Switch 6, but it has components and graphics which closely match the bikes ridden at EWS-level by the Orange Factory Racing Team of Lachlan Blair, Joe Connell and Tom Wilson.
This includes Formula suspension and brakes; Michellin tires; e*thirteen wheels, chain guides and cranks; Burgtec bars, grips and stems, plus SDG seatposts and saddles.
Orange Switch 6 Team Details• Travel: 160mm (f) /145mm (r)
• Wheels: 29/27.5" Mullet
• Monocoque 6061-T6 aluminium frame, made in Britain
• 5-year frame warranty with limited lifetime rrash replacement
• Orange Factory Racing Team components and decals
• Custom tuned Formula MOD Coil Shock
• Custom tuned Formula Selva S fork
• 76° seat angle, 64° head angle
• Sizes: M, L, XL
• RRP: £5,200
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orangebikes.com
I say "closely match", because of course team rider specs can vary, and they often don't ride what's available to the customer. Earlier this year we saw
Joe Connell running a Stage 6 (full 29er) with a prototype dual-crown Formula fork and DH22 tires at the EWS in La Thuille.The Switch 6 Team uses Formula's 160mm-travel, air-sprung Selva S fork, which is custom-tuned and its compression tune can be further altered with Formula's system of interchangeable compression valves, which they call CTS. The fork's air-spring uses Formula Neopos spacers which are designed to improve mid-stroke support without making the end-stroke force too excessive. The single-pivot rear suspension is controlled by a Formula MOD Coil Shock, which is also custom-tuned and customisable with interchangeable CTS valves.
Formula also provides their punchy Cura 4 brakes which clamp 203mm rotors. The shifting is taken care of by Shimano with an e*thirteen 9-50t cassette providing a 556% gearing range. The mixed-size e*thirteen wheels are shod in Michelin WIld Enduro tires. While the team may be running the ~1,500g Michelin DH22 tires at some races, the Wild Enduro tires (which each weigh around 1,000g) are a far better choice for most riders.
The frame carries a five-year warranty with limited crash replacement. The bike costs £5,200 and is available now through Orange dealers.
The big problem is that it seems like the majority of modern riders dont really connect with Orange because they "look" dated.
Now... Ferg nearly won Scottish champs on his one and went 5 seconds faster than when he was on a different and more popular frame manufacturer, whilst riding a slightly longer Fort William track!!!
I mean a 4:50 on a trail bike down a gnarly Fort William, taking 4th place in Elite, only 2.3s off the win.
I provided evidence of "the rider", when he rode for Canyons time and a relative time on an orange down the fort William WC dh track.
I also had the experience or racing both races so know what track sections were used, how fast each track was and the conditions at the time.
Ferg went relatively faster on the orange.
(I am not an orange fan as I hated my old 224 race bike, it's was slow for me in time and results, but I would kinda like to try one of these).
This is true for all single pivots, so Evil, Cotic, Commencal, Kona etc. Adding a linkage to drive the shock doesn’t change the braking behaviour.
I guess you are an orange fan by your comment. Each to their own I guess. I have no loyalty to a brand, just performance of a bike. (Any Brand could make a bunch of lemons and a single shining golden egg too, give me the egg please, I don't care what label it has on it).
I would guess that orange would like to make more money selling bikes ideally as that is what businesses are about. They had a big reshuffle at the top in 2015.
I bet orange would love to sell more bikes. Make more money, employ more people and play with the bigger boys.
The new owners have stressed that they know the bikes aren't for everyone, and they are happy to have a bit of a cult following.
The blood also competed with the Blur 4x etc, which were also all part of that period of bike design.
Orange does need to look at its marketing strategy which I guess this article is about, but they are failing in the aesthetics department which is important to the end customer.
If only Orange had the pennies to pay the "paid advertisement" summer camp test with PinkBike and get some results on the board (with a nicely painted bike too). They spent enough on vehicles they could have possibly directed elsewhere (companies house is good for snooping)
And they don't have the UK following they used to, but that's fashion and they are doing much better abroad now.
I don't see their account books, but I reckon they're in a decent position still.
Maybe this words by @TEAT-ROBOT: help clarify
www.vitalmtb.com/features/BRAKE-JACK-DOESNT-EXIST-Advice-with-Team-Robot-March-2021,3044
'even if the "jack" effect isn't much pronounced, the stiffening of the suspension does prevent some sag', followed by: 'you get like one or two extra degrees of head angle, which isn't that great on steep terrain'.
All that makes me suspicious the one who doesn't get it is you. If you can't discuss a subject without calling people smartasses go on, keep lecturing
Come back in a few weeks/months if/when you understand how bike suspension works.
Literally everything you’ve posted is incorrect. I think my favourite error is your claim that VPP designs have the least brake interaction with the suspension - they have far more brake interaction than co-rotating four bar (classic Horst link) designs, which should be obvious from the instant centre vs the rear contact patch.
www.vitalmtb.com/features/BRAKE-JACK-DOESNT-EXIST-Advice-with-Team-Robot-March-2021,3044
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The virtual pivot is not a fixed pivot point throughout the shock stroke, therefore not a single pivot, which refers to pivoting around a single point.
Its all about isolating forces.
BUT
Some brake jack is not a bad thing, a super smooth rear end is not going to skip and hit into the ground, if the tyre was 100% compliant with the ground under braking, the tread would just fill up and you might as well ride a slick. (exaggerated I know but only to make the point).
The bike, rider and terrain are really a pretty complicated control loop. You could not just model the ideal Laplace and you have the ideal solution. If you could then everything would be the same.
Its almost like they enjoy the shitty comments they get on these Press releases.
And, that's an older style frame that has been changed.
Orange = single pivot = strong USP.
Meanwhile, I am using the same Helix cassette and it's working quite nicely.
This is the COVID supply shortage world we live in now.
Maybe it looks better when it’s covered in mud and dust?
So is the orange your dream bike?
BIKE I RIDE:
GT hardtail, marz fork with motor oil in the lowers, disc brakes and 2nd hand xtr. 2x drivetrain cause i'll take the rattle over BS boost chainline for now. Dropper is a quick release.
If i geta 2nd hand FS 26 frame i'll be a happy clam.
don't get me wrong, I like the bike, that's why I said the only problem is the price..I tell you why
I disagree when you compare them with "other top level enduro bikes", but this is only my opinion, based in the amount of technology in all areas that Orange is bringing to the table, or did bring to the table in the last decade let's say...and that's why I think you can't justify the same prices as the top brands the gave you so many development and new standards and improvements in modern bikes...
but, as I said, it is only my opinion...don`t get grumpy boy, we all love Orange bikes in a way
Thought I'd take a break out of my break to correct your spelling and grammer.
Egg ... face ... on .... yours...