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Orange Launch Five New Bikes at Eurobike 2024

Jul 7, 2024
by Jessie-May Morgan  
After a tumultuous start to 2024 Orange Bikes look to be alive and well, launching no fewer than five new bikes at Eurobike. Category segments include Orange's very first full suspension mountain bike for kids; the aptly named Satsuma, the Whippet DJ bike, the frame of which goes for £1,000 with a 1 year warranty, two new 29" eMTBs and the new Stage 6.

The first quarter of this year brought uncertain times for the Yorkshire brand, with administrators called in to sell the business that was in financial trouble. The pause of trading was relatively short-lived, and by the end of January Orange had continued trading under original owner, Ashley Ball. Orange acquired their own UK manufacturing partner, and have now unified the entire production process in one location.

I for one was really pleased to see the brand back at Eurobike, seemingly fighting fit. Here's a quick look at the new single-pivot aluminum mountain bikes coming out of Halifax in 2024.

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2025 Orange Stage 6

The Stage 6 remains in the lineup as a 150/160mm travel affair with 29" wheels. The geometry is nigh-on identical to the Stage 6 of 2021, with a 64° head tube angle, a 76° seat angle, and a reach of 486mm in a size large. It still has very generous length in the back with 469mm chainstays. Despite an unchanged geometry, this is a completely new frame with the continuous brace where the top tube meets the seat tube giving it a more modern aesthetic.

The one meaningful geometry change is seen in the seat tube length. They've shaved an inch (25mm) off the seat tube across the M-XL frames - yep, they report all geometry figures in millimeters, save for the seat tube length that is reported in inches. Gah. My grumblings aside, that means riders will benefit from the use of a longer travel dropper.

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The swingarm has moved to UDH, and the front triangle gets frame storage, or the SAFE, as Orange call it. I'll make the filing cabinet joke so you don't have to. Finally, the bottle cage mounts have been moved form the underside of the downtube to the underside of the top tube.

The kinematic has also been updated. The Stage 6 now runs a 205mm x 57.5mm Trunnion shock, as compared to the standard mount 210mm x 55mm shock.

The Stage 6 will be sold with a five year warranty. It will be available in the next 10 weeks, and the SE spec you see here will retail at £5,700.

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Orange Satsuma

This is Orange's very first full suspension mountain bike for kids. The Satsuma is a mullet, with a 26" rear wheel and a 27.5" front wheel. It has 130mm travel in the rear and a 140mm fork, and a 24"/26" mullet version is on its way, too. It has a 64° HA, a seat tube length of 355mm and the reach of 410mm with a 425mm chainstay. Though marketed as a kids bike, I reckon it could be a viable option for many adults shorter than 155 cm. Like the Stage 6, this one gets a UDH and the frame storage.

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Orange will have the Satsuma at three price points of £4,500 (Pro), £5,500 (Factory), and £5,900 for the SE model seen here.

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Orange Patriot 29 eMTB

No longer a DH bike, the Patriot name has been re-appropriated to Orange's line of long-travel full-powered eMTBs. We saw the Patriot MX announced last year, and now it is available as a 29er. It is home to the Bosch Performance Line CX motor with 85 Nm torque and a 600 W peak power output, supplied by a 750 Wh battery. It has 170mm travel, front and rear, with a linkage-driven single-pivot platform. That gives a progressive leverage curve as compared to the linear leverage exhibited by the basic single-pivot models.

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The Patriot has some of the longest chainstays on the market; 473mm across the M-XL size range. Reach is 464mm, 481mm and 500mm, respectively. This one is slightly slacker than the rest with a 63° head angle.

The Pro spec goes for £8,500, the Factory is £9,700, and the SE model seen here is £10,000.

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Orange Phase EVO 29 eMTB

Orange's lighter mid-powered eMTB is also now available as a complete 29er, after its initial launch last year as an MX affair. The Phase EVO 29 gets 160mm travel, front and rear, a 64° head angle, a 76° seat tube angle, a 484mm reach in a size large and a 469mm chainstay length.

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The drive unit is the Bosch Performance Line SX (55 Nm Torque, 600 W Peak Power). Inside the downtube is a 400 Wh battery. It has a respectable claimed weight of 19.5 kg in a size large.

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Starting price for this one is £6,900 (Pro), with the Factory model retailing at £8,300. The model seen here isn't available, it was just built up as a show bike.

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193 Comments
  • 317 21
 I thought Orange went bankrupt for having a giant range of identical, ugly bikes that no one wanted to buy? And their solution to this is to carry on the same way with even higher prices? Good luck Orange.
  • 45 2
 Better news would’ve been that they’d cut the range and here’s what they’re keeping
  • 25 1
 @mashrv1: Do they keep a large inventory? From what I understand, they cut and fold the tubes from the same sheets of metal so offering more options doesn't necessarily translate to higher costs for them.
  • 31 1
 I’m sure the suppliers who got shafted during the bankruptcy to rebirth with the same people were delighted
  • 16 2
 Ya, I want to root for 'em, but boy it seems like so many bad decisions were made in board rooms while plotting this lineup. Also, shoulda asked Norco if a super heavy long travel ebike with long chainstays was a good idea. Took those poor bastards a good 2-3 years of deep discounting to move on from that.
  • 9 1
 @vinay: no idea but a massive range with an unclear naming convention and overlap between models isn’t a great way to keep the attention of a potential buyer
  • 1 1
 @mashrv1: What one would you keep?
and MOAR importantly... WHY?
  • 3 1
 @mashrv1: so you end up with O ?
  • 17 3
 No, they got angel funding so they can continue to make their trademark fashion challenging bikes, but now focusing on e-bikes.

They can’t last, their appeal is limited, but perhaps if they hang in long enough, ugly, bulky, poor performing single pivots will come back into fashion.
  • 3 0
 @Gaah: no idea. I haven’t done more than a casual browse in a long time as there are too many models to be arsed with.
  • 15 1
 this time, it will be different
  • 3 0
 @venturavin: there's still a 'new' yellow/orange one for sale sat out the front of my lbs, all scratched up from being taken in and out literally a thousand times by now...
  • 3 0
 @vinay: offering too many options just means a confusing range of bikes which all look the same and have lots of overlap
  • 7 3
 @farkinoath: So sad. I actually quite liked my 2022 Sight VLT haha, but it's no mystery it was not a massive retail success. Quite specifically for some traits that Orange has decided to double down on (weight and chain stay length).

It also just reeks of arrogance that they keep sticking with their fugly swingarm design. They clearly think that people love it and that people would be upset to see it change. Nope, no we would not. Nobody loves it. Your most hardcore fans tolerate it at best.

If Orange put out a nice simple aluminum trail bike, designed by someone with eyes, at a reasonable price point, it would sell like crazy.
  • 6 6
 @TommyNunchuck: Yeah, they indeed don't cater to the audience who has difficulties telling one bike apart from the other and who gets confused by the availability of more bikes than they can count on the fingers of one hand. I'm not going to argue with you on that one.
  • 4 4
 @vinay: aaah, I see what you did there. You're insinuating that I can't count higher than five. Very clever. It must be my fault that Orange went bankrupt.
  • 4 1
 This is just a shame. But I think we have to admit that there are much worse-looking ebikes out there!! Smile

I don't get why they would make a new bike with frame storage but use the single pivot without the linkage. If it's not for light XC, for touring simplicity or to make it low cost then why use the single pivot? $3.5K US for an SP aluminum frame. LOL!!

And introducing a bike with a 472 chainstay length so you can get a 29er rear wheel back there makes zero sense to me... Might as well just put those on clearance now!

It's a shame they were not able to just liquidate their inventory when they restructured. They have WAY too many models and overlap. Their UK site is a MESS! Their US site is a bit cleaner. But only some of their bikes say "2024". So does that mean the rest are old stock? I ain't buying old stock unless it's OBVIOUSLY on sale?

I wish them luck. But WTF...???
  • 4 0
 @stiingya: I saw a post elsewhere that reckoned they have 38 (thirty eight) different models, plus variations within the 38. That’s just bonkers.
  • 4 1
 They saw Sam pilgrim on haibike and thought they could make a steel one of those.
  • 7 0
 Orange bike rider for the last 3 years here.
As far as I am aware, Orange keep low levels of stock so that they can manufacture to order in a way. Given everything is done in house, this would make sense.
A lot of the models also share front triangles, simplifying the process.
There is definitely reason to trim the line up though but I don’t actually know what detriment there is by having such a range, given their manufacturing process
  • 6 3
 I tested their e-mtb couple of years ago in Swiss Alps. The geometry was much better than average. The bike was really good. I did a mistake and bought a different brand.
  • 2 1
 @aly-14: rather obviously, the paying public don't know what they want so having so many offerings that are all similar you either get lucky and buy exactly what you want or end up with something not quite right.
38 models and each model has several variants - doesn't matter how low their stock is, that is too many bikes to offer.
  • 1 0
 @ShoodNoBetter: I definitely agree with that.
I’d trim the range by offering them as numbered models 7, 6 and 5 with two or three build kits and the choice of MX or 29 for the 7 and 6 or 27.5/29 for the 5.
P7 and clockwork hardtail for hard tails and a full fat and lite e bike.
That would leave seven models with a bit of choice a bit of choice between wheel sizes and build kits as most manufacturers do
  • 2 0
 @vinay:
Dealers still have to carry inventory though...
  • 1 0
 @venturavin: this comment has been copied verbatim several times on here by different usernames. What’s going on?
  • 1 0
 @absentminded: Whoaaa that is bizarre. I am a human and I typed that out myself, I promise. I assume the other posters are AI bots or something? What a time to be alive.
  • 1 3
 No body in North America rides these ugly old looking bikes. If they do they bought a matching helmet from Walmart.
  • 2 0
 @angusns: Of course not, you silly! What are you doing on this page? Quick, shield your eyes and move on to the Gucci website. North American eyes can't handle the iconic bikes ridden to great success by Tracey Hannah, Steve Peat, Greg Minnaar etc...

Oh, and protect the children too!

(Before you leave, could you help me with the Walmart reference? As you only have that in North America, not in Europe. )
  • 1 0
 @vinay: Walmart in US are huge buildings that sell everything and do sell MTB stuff. Suggestion is that buy from Walmart as it is cheap and no-one else sells it.
In the UK, Asda was owned by Walmart but that got sold a few years ago to 2 brothers.
  • 1 0
 @vinay: higher cost goes towards the time it takes to cut the sheets of metal, bend them, do a royal shit ton of welding. Jensen the higher costs
  • 129 8
 This bike brand is a close approximation of the outgoing tory government. Let's do the same shit over and over again and price ourselves out of the market whilst selling the general public a turd and calling it progress.
  • 25 1
 Now that's an awesome analogy!!!
  • 63 3
 They can rename their models The Sunak, The Truss, and The Boris (calling it The Johnson would maybe be too much).
  • 36 10
 Just the yo yo of UK politics mate. We hate the Tories so we vote in labour for some years. Then we hate Labour so we vote the Tories back in etc. etc. None of them ever in power long enough to do anything meaningful so all they ever do is short term knee jerk policies that rarely ever solve anything
  • 79 4
 @Jonesey23: The Tories were in government for 14 years! They managed to achieve plenty of meaningful stuff!

None of it positive though, as far as I can tell from here...
  • 17 32
flag Jonesey23 (Jul 7, 2024 at 5:29) (Below Threshold)
 @boozed: The positive stuff that any government does is never reported.
  • 5 1
 @boozed: absolutely spot on
  • 14 2
 @Jonesey23: was there much to report in those 14 years? On the other hand you could see the NHS rot away to the point it is in bright nie, or even to the sorry state it was pre COVID.
  • 10 12
 @Jonesey23: its always easy to blame the government, but who voted for brexshit ? The people...because they wanted change..super argument
  • 24 3
 @lenniDK: there was a well funded campaign plus government and media lies that pushed the Brexit narrative which was a close run thing with a low turnout due to not many people being aware of what being in or out of the EU actually meant.
Anyway I’m trying to stay off politics! At least the tories are out at last.
  • 10 3
 @lenniDK: Yes there's a lot of mis-informed idiots out there that don't research what they are buying in to. Mis-placed patriotic mushrooms. A bit like Orange customers
  • 3 0
 OK away from politics, as its a bit raw for some. How about car manufacturers, let's say TVR and Subaru. One built expensive, poorly put together sports cars. Would literally breakdown (read crack) out of the factory, wouldn't hesitate to kill the driver in a ball of fire backwards in to a tree. Mainly bought by rich morons for bragging rights down the pub. The other brand has a race pedigree, reliability in orders of magnitude better than the other, is still going strong today and doesn't make you laugh when you see the price tag.
  • 2 2
 @Jonesey23: *The positive stuff that any Tory government does is never reported.
Saying that, the last few years have been appalling.
  • 5 4
 @boozed: Labour* Yo Tories, hold my beer.
  • 5 2
 @pooceq: the nhs was “rotting” away long long long before that.
  • 16 4
 There’s nothing wrong with the bike itself it’s just the attitude of uniformed riders like yourself which is the problem. What do you want them to do? Add a load of bullshit links and pivots like my Kona and your Santa Cruz for no reason other than to get the sale? What exactly do you like about your single pivot that you don’t like about Oranges single pivots?
  • 3 2
 @Jonesey23: could be, I am not able to comment on anything before 2006 and from there to about 2011-2012, I was always happy, always got more help than I could expect. Since then I have only used NHS sporadically and each time was worse then the previous one.withnwaiting times for specialist tests/treatments increasing each time I needed anything. The same story was with everyone I talked to. It could be a coincidence and it all started long before, but looking at the ways money went under Tories, somehow I doubt it. Good thing there's that £350m a week coming to NHS on the back of the Brexit vote. Any day now!

And I'm under no illusion that Labour is going to do any better here, but hopefully they will struggle to do much worse
  • 9 2
 @Jonesey23: New politics-> 2 parties you can vote,shit or double shit, you choose. That´s the way it works in almost every country, politics selling the country cheap to whatever new stupid thing...
  • 2 0
 @Jonesey23: sounds an awful lot like American politics.
  • 3 8
flag darkstar66 (Jul 7, 2024 at 11:59) (Below Threshold)
 @thenotoriousmic: Ah the notorious prick, wondered when you'd show up
  • 4 2
 Five new bikes that all look the same...........good for them.
  • 2 0
 @andelinc: Indeed.
We all look at other countries and laugh, but we've all got it bad (as far as 1st world problems go).
  • 9 1
 @ratedgg13: Trump already has an Orange Johnson.
  • 5 1
 @thenotoriousmic: Those are not bullshit links, it's called mechanical engineering and it works. Changes are not dramatic but clearly noticeable. So Orange is doing a bit dated sh*t for a premium price, which is not currently a viable strategy.
  • 1 7
flag betsie (Jul 8, 2024 at 1:27) (Below Threshold)
 Give it a few years and the "price ourselves out of the market" history of a Labour government will bite you in the ass. History will repeat itself about the time I retire and this could well screw my retirement fund. The same folk voted for labour that voted to leave the EU and how is that going!
Orange made crap bikes, got saved to make more crap bikes... Might be another way to politically look at it.

(I didn't vote coz they are a bags of wind and we should just make trails everywhere and enjoy bikes, way easier that pontificating about politics, next we will have football content on a Pinkbike thread)
  • 5 0
 @betsie: yeah, politics is hard man. Best keep to simple stuff.
  • 2 2
 @betsie: plenty who didn't vote for Brexit also voted. If you don't vote, you can't really complain and expect it to be listened to as you didn't make any effort to change anything.
  • 1 2
 @lkubica: you’d have a point of it was still 2006 when we were all riding shitty shocks with no adjustment or support with the shocks we have today a link driven single pivot isn’t really achieving anything that you wouldn’t be able to do with a well designed single pivot and a well tuned shock.
  • 1 5
flag thenotoriousmic (Jul 9, 2024 at 2:41) (Below Threshold)
 @darkstar66: it’s ok mate. We can discuss this out on the trails, see how hard you are then? And Cumbria is the name of an now abolished council not a place, at least know where you live you thick bastard.
  • 7 1
 @thenotoriousmic: Well at least I'm not thick enough to openly threaten someone on an open public forum. Mate. If your intentions are to assault someone out on the trails for some pretty light name calling you've got much bigger issues than me bro
  • 2 5
 @darkstar66: where did I threaten you thicko? All I did was suggest you call me a prick to my face when we undoubtedly bump into each other on one of our five local trails and you’ve already shit yourself an accused me of threatening you… Big brave boy.
  • 2 0
 @ratedgg13: technically he's correct I'm afraid
  • 2 2
 @ratedgg13: Brits need to win some races soon. Everyone's getting a bit aggro.
  • 2 2
 @ratedgg13: Cumbria was an administrative county or council district just like Merseyside or Greater Manchester, created in 1974 and a abolished and replaced in 2023. You can’t visit or be from an administrative county and it’s a dead give away that someone is stupid when they identify with a council and not the actual county they’re from.

"The new county boundaries are administrative areas, and will not alter the traditional boundaries of counties, nor is it intended that the loyalties of people living in them will change despite the different names adopted by the new administrative counties.”
Government statement issued on 1st April 1974 and printed in the Times newspaper
  • 2 0
 @BenPea: How did Tom Pidcock get on in his last XC race?
How has Evie Richards been getting on?
What about Tahnee or Heather Wilson?
your right, the good old Brits need to win something soon its been a few days since the last win.
  • 2 2
 @thenotoriousmic: Sorry I forgot that Brits don't acknowledge history. P.S. Are you a part of Europe or not?
  • 1 2
 @betsie: Elite men's DH. Not the lottery of the women's. i.e. will Vali crash or not

XC is not a proper pinkbike sport

Here to start more shit up.

Cumberland!
  • 1 1
 @BenPea: easy now, you'll get a very angry history lesson off a very angry boy
  • 1 0
 @BenPea: Cumberland... That's Lamine Yamals nickname.
  • 72 0
 At those price points I can’t see who these bikes would a peel to.
  • 27 1
 The juice is worth the squeeze, to only a select few.
  • 4 21
flag mcleodpulaski FL (Jul 7, 2024 at 5:50) (Below Threshold)
 @SwampThAAng: Is this a pun to his "a peel" comment?
  • 19 0
 @mcleodpulaski: Yeah, it's like Clockwork...
  • 13 2
 Orange you glad you bought a different bike?
  • 18 1
 @mcleodpulaski: Are you taking the pith?
  • 1 0
 @carlitouk: I''ll crush it with my bare hands...
  • 6 0
 the made in china ones they will make will be called mandarin
  • 49 1
 "Orange launch 5 old bikes"
  • 43 6
 They're a local company and great to see them back but Christ they are ugly looking bikes.
  • 7 1
 If you squint, tilt your head then turn 180 degrees, you miiiiiight just see a Pivot prototype DH rig roll past, then it looks pretty sweet.
  • 2 1
 Dear lord they are
  • 43 12
 How can we make these worst and uglier? Let’s give than unnecessary storage/weight that clearly doesn’t suit the frame (design and material) just because we feel like we need to follow the trend! Used to see these all the time in the U.K…now it’s quite rare!
Shame they didn’t take the recent situation to at least try and introduce something new and different as well!
  • 12 4
 I do like the look of these bikes. How would the storage not suit the frame material?
  • 9 3
 Agreed, I love how orange frames looked and ride but the new sump for storage kills the lines of the bike
  • 4 1
 @jimmythehat: My impression is that the storage is actually a side product of making it stronger. The shock pushes the shock mount and the main pivot apart. The load path between the two is curved hence is not only subject to tension but also to bending which requires much more material to deal with properly. Nicolai has been using a structural member for this for years (and no one seemed too bothered) and now Orange is using these two flanges. With them in place, it didn't take much to add a removable lid and use it as a storage. But I don't think that was the main purpose. I think it was initially introduced to make this area stronger.
  • 3 2
 @vinay: Most bikes put a door in an existing part of their frames to create the frame storage. Orange added an extra frame element to allow the storage, thus adding extra weight.
  • 7 1
 @dougfs: I'd say Orange merely adds a lid to a structural reinforcement they wanted/needed whereas those who open up the downtube for storage end up adding a whole lot more (to close it off and to reinforce the weakened part).
  • 1 3
 @vinay: All I'm sayin is if Orange has frame storage, there's really no excuse not to have it at this point (looking at you Norco) I won't buy a bike without it, I'll buy an Orange instead (ok that's a joke)
  • 2 3
 I'm surprised no one has made a filing cabinet joke yet, on the storage cabinet. I guess Pinkbike commenters are maturing Razz

Jokes aside, I love the look the Stage 6 and I'd ride it. But Orange doesn't seem to make them easy to purchase in Canada.
  • 3 1
 @dougfs: in frame storage adds weight on all designs.
  • 4 0
 @BermJunky: THIS^^^^

If you just go cut a big hole in an old frame that doesn't have storage it will just collapse the first time you take a drop. The frame has to be designed in a way to take that stress while also having a big hole = more weight. No way around that aspect.
  • 30 3
 Why after going bust, restructuring your business, do you then return to the same formula that failed previously, and why position yourself in the same pricing arena as far more accomplished companies offering a more attractive product line, this should have been an opportunity to introduce affordability to the crazy prices of the MTB world, but no, you haven't learnt from past mistakes so don't be surprised when you eventually fail, AGAIN.
  • 19 0
 Agreed. Marin had a rebrand about a decade ago and their focus on "made for fun" and quality bikes that are often some of the best values in their categories is something that could have happened here.
  • 13 1
 To make them more affordable, they'd have to get them made in Asia, which would actually cost them more than the usual generic catalogue bikes that are shat out by other brands. At least Orange are sticking to their identity and not just conforming to a norm.
  • 1 0
 Heard they are getting a machine that bends tubes first before they weld
  • 17 2
 So, Orange went bankrupt because they had a range of extremely similar bikes that no one wanted to buy, because they were outdated, ugly and overpriced.

And their solution to the problem is even more outdated, ugly and overpriced bikes?

Sounds like a great plan, really.
  • 17 1
 The fact that they called the e-bike the “Patriot” is just too perfect. Include a pair of Oakley Gascan sunglasses and Punisher skull sticker with it and you’ll corner a certain market.
  • 2 0
 And a case of hard Mtn dew Baja Blast.
  • 12 1
 That orange orange satsuma looks like a great kids bike. Or I just wanted to say orange orange satsuma. Orange is a weird word when you say it too many times, it doesn't seem real anymore. Orange.
  • 14 0
 Bruised fruit
  • 10 0
 “ After a tumultuous start to 2025 Orange Bikes look to be alive and well, launching no fewer than five new bikes at Eurobike.”

2025?
  • 7 0
 That's called foreshadowing
  • 8 0
 They had one severe warning and part of their financial issues was the amount of models, so they introduce 5 new ones that look the same as the rest of the catalog, I’m a fan of orange but they really should listen to advice and the market ffs, and if not that then the lack of revenue
  • 4 0
 Its mental i looked at there website and they have roughly 12 different full suspension frames not counting wheel size variants.... It should really be closer to about 5.. orange 5 orange alpine or switch orange 279 ebike orange 5 ebike orange alpine or switch
  • 9 0
 Hats off to Jessie for being able to tell they were new unless she got a press pack to tell her
  • 5 0
 A kids bike? The main addition to the line-up is a kids bike with an entry price of 4.500 GBP?

Let’s see, what is anyone I know (and anyone on the internet) who might be willing and able to drop that kind of money on a ride for the brats looking at and talking about first? The weight. Companies in that very niche market of exclusively priced kids bikes all go to great lengths to make sure they can shed a serious amount of weight compared to the offerings for adults, by designing frames specifically for a lighter rider weight and speccing them accordingly… I can’t see any of that here. Crazy decision to add that to the range.

What else did change? Oh, all the mountainbikes are back to the most basic single pivot design, the more sophisticated version with the linkage now seems available only with the e-bikes.

Good luck, Orange, I’m afraid you will need it.
  • 6 0
 They all look like a High Pivot without the High Pivot. Would like to ride one of them though.
  • 4 1
 Ya, I want to root for 'em, but boy it seems like so many bad decisions were made in board rooms while plotting this lineup. Also, shoulda asked Norco if a super heavy long travel ebike with long chainstays was a good idea. Took those poor bastards a good 2-3 years of deep discounting to move on from that.
  • 3 0
 If Orange didn’t exist and new company debuted at Eurobike offering:
-Frames made from recyclable material
-A suspension configuration with fantastic pedaling characteristics, enormous mud/tire clearance,
zero possibility of chain suck, and limited possibility
chain to swing arm contact. Accomplished with only 2 bearings!

I bought one 2 years ago at a bike shop.

Not cheap, especially compared to current discounting, but $5k
for a bike with a mechanical GX drive train, RS “Ultimate” level suspension and Hope hubs was fair and exactly how I’d spec a bike.

Needed to send the shock to a tuner to work for me (Thank you Shock Howse!) and a cockpit dial-in based on personal preference.

Bike would probably benefit from shorter cranks, taller stack and a better shock tune out of the box.

Anyway, the bike’s been fantastic after some sorting.
To be fair, virtually any bike I cross shopped would have
been just fine for my application.
But the Orange was (by far) the most mechanically elegant.
And in my opinion, the best looking.
Rich brand history as well.

Should Orange consider outsourcing a butted tube frame?
Absolutely!
Should Orange abandon their signature frame configuration?
This would surely be a step in the wrong direction.
  • 3 0
 The good news for those that don’t like Orange Bikes, and are only here to trash them, is that you don’t have to like them, or even buy one of them.
For those of us who do appreciate what Orange Bikes do, it’s great that they’re back up and running, and launching new models.
I had a sneak look at their DJ bike a couple of years ago, a prototype, so was interested in what the Whippet would look like. Having seen the launch shots, it looks good and carries the distinctive Orange styling. Not sure that I’d pay the price of the frame at £1k though, even being a fan of the brand, when there are very decent complete DJ bikes out there for the same money.
  • 5 0
 With a little bit more travel and progression that stage 6 would be perfect. Just make a stage 7 already !
  • 5 0
 @watchmen: $4K for a frame. OUCH!
  • 2 0
 @watchmen: by their naming convention the stage 7 should have 180mm of rear travel, not 160mm. And if I were to buy a Orange it would be to have a single pivot, I don't see the point of the linkages aside from added servicing and weight. A single pivot can be designed to habe up to 15% of progression which is plenty with a good shock.
  • 1 1
 @Balgaroth: I've owned a few Oranges over the years and came really close to getting a Stage 6 during lockdown. I just couldn't get passed the looong stays.
  • 3 0
 @watchmen: the long stays are actually one of the reasons why I'd consider a Orange. Currently I am riding a custom made steel frame, single pivot, 17% of progression, 470mm chainstays for 490mm reach and 63HA. I love it and don't want to go back to short ass chainstays but very few brand actually offer balanced geo for size L. If you were considering a size M or S it would be terrible as they don't adjust the CS length for size tho.
  • 7 1
 Storage should have been called FiLCBNT™
  • 4 0
 I'd love to see an Orange with a straight, tubular front triangle using their iconic swingarm. I think it would look great and probably far cheaper to produce.
  • 3 0
 You can buy a tubular Orange from Starling.
  • 6 2
 Looks like you can’t kill an orange, they will always come back and look like nothing happens I love it.
  • 3 1
 Orange LAUNCHES five new bikes! Good for them. All the best in digging themselves out of the hole. Funny how a brand that used to be more than a bit of a PB darling is now the whipping post.....
  • 2 1
 When they were a small company making simple bikes and suspension designs were still evolving, sure, like Foes, they were cool.

That time is long past, it’s been a solid decade since anyone though single pivots were all that.

I’d love to support Foes again, or Orange for that matter, but they haven’t evolved … reminds me of some other companies that are no longer with us.

I own a Lenz (USA), Kavenz (Germany), and a Starling (UK).
  • 1 0
 Most single pivots are located behind the chainring instead of in front of it. So would using their own linkage driven single pivot and re-locating the pivot to the other side of the chainring make their bikes more modern and still give them the same look?
  • 2 0
 I have Marino like the orange coloured Orange above and it rides amazing.
  • 2 0
 The phase 7 is linkage driven. Same pivot location, but different shock orientation. Looks like an Orange.
  • 1 0
 I had an Orange Five in 2014, it was a great bike. And if you wanted something more hard hitting, you got an Alpine. Now if I wanted an Orange, I wouldn't know where to start. Way too many different models with so much cross over. If they want to be competitive and profitable again, they should cut down all of their models to just a few core models, with different builds (Pro, RS etc.). Oh, and offer more than 1 year frame warranty!
  • 2 1
 Orange, with their single pivot primacy, is ripe for making a High Pivot frame, something like Forbidden has done…
They can keep the ugly, but upgrade the single pivot…

I feel like I’m watching a 2003 Wirld Cup DH race looking at these…
  • 2 0
 The pricing does seem high. I'm not sure why so many people have a problem with Orange bikes all looking the same ....thats exactly what has happened to Santa Cruz ! Can't tell one from the other
  • 3 0
 Not sure that rear triangle/linkage looking like a wrinkled garbage bag or a worn shirt that needs ironing will help sales
  • 8 8
 The worst in this site it's got to be the way people are negative about some brands and some people.
You don't like Orange bikes? It's not my favourite either,but I appreciate the fact that they do what they want,and they don't follow trends like most others do.
If you haven't got nothing nice to say...
  • 9 3
 Don’t follow trends? You’re right, Orange are leading the way with in-frame storage and motors.
  • 3 0
 It’s the internet, people complain about everything.
  • 11 0
 @stevemokan: some even complain about other people complaining
  • 6 0
 “Ugh, bikes all look the same now, and they’re all made in China.”

“Here’s a unique-looking bike, made in the UK!”

“Noooo, we hate it.”
  • 3 0
 @nozes agreed, it’s tiresome. I’ve never ridden an Orange and I’d love to try one. Always liked how link actuated single pivot bikes felt and been curious about the simplicity of this platform.

Also, Orange deserve credit for the Phase AD3. To make a bike for riders of different physical abilities is really admirable.
  • 3 3
 So criticism isn't allowed? Everything has to be all rosy and peachy on the internet?
"I appreciate the fact that they do what they want, and they don't follow trends like most others do." Orange bikes apparently don't ever update their bike geometry either. Their bikes look almost the same as they do 10 years ago, yet they charge the customer more and more.
  • 6 0
 @YetiTrekki: that's the issue, most of the criticism is made up! Orange update geo pretty much yearly!
  • 3 0
 @Superburner: I can help with your Orange curiosity. The rear brake and the rear suspension can't both work at the same time and on big impacts it feels like the frame is folding in half.
  • 2 0
 @TommyNunchuck: or by more than half, if you’re riding the new Patriot 29…

@Superburner that wasn’t a bad assessment though. Their bikes have bags of character and if you really think about your riding and put the effort in, they are really fun and rewarding bikes to ride. Very direct, very responsive, very poppy, they’re also efficient to pedal. If you’re not on it though and really thinking about your riding, they leave you frustrated after bucking you around. I’ve enjoyed all three of my Oranges
  • 1 0
 @TommyNunchuck: yeah but that makes you ride properly, unless your in really steep rough terrain it gets pretty hairy!
  • 4 0
 I love my orange alpine 6 evo, absolutely rips.
  • 1 1
 Btw orange with wired shifting and S with wireless only, will opt for S.

Btw oranger with internal routing and any brand with headset routing will opt for later.

No way person who is developing them thinks they are nice looking bikes, also geometry wise - why? Chainstay longer then the reach? Like hello from last century?
  • 1 1
 Ya, I want to root for 'em, but boy it seems like so many bad decisions were made in board rooms while plotting this lineup. Also, shoulda asked Norco if a super heavy long travel ebike with long chainstays was a good idea. Took those poor bastards a good 2-3 years of deep discounting to move on from that.
  • 1 1
 I had an orange 5, it was an awesome bike, incredibly fun, engaging ride characteristic that just worked, you have to ride one before you can write them off. Spending an hour swapping out a set of blind seized main pivot bearings the other day on my vitus made me miss it even more!! Apparently my local trusted mechanic says it takes a good day to change all the kenevo SL bearings!
  • 1 0
 Yep, was always a pretty quick job to replace the pivot bearings on my Fives or my Alpine 6.
Have been riding a Transition Patrol for just over four years, and it’s a 3 hour job to replace all of the frame bearings (6 pairs in 5 locations).
  • 2 0
 @markyp1965: yeah I had a smuggler which had some pretty tricky blind main pivot bearings as well, boiling water on the frame seems to do the trick before you use the puller. The only thing with the single pivot is i found it needed replacing more often c 6months in north wales. Not looking forward to the kenevo job ha ha
  • 4 1
 They actually made the frame bigger/heavier to add the filing cabinet
  • 3 1
 Well, at least now with the storage compartment, they are functional filing cabinets
  • 3 0
 Patriot should be full on unapologetic eDH bike, 200mm both ends.
  • 2 3
 I want to root for 'em, but boy it seems like so many bad decisions were made in board rooms while plotting this lineup. Also, shoulda asked Norco if a super heavy long travel ebike with long chainstays was a good idea. Took those poor bastards a good 2-3 years of deep discounting to move on from that
  • 1 1
 Amazingly the pedal bikes have nice welds! I always rip on em for having british teeth type welds... or slow timmy welding. Looks like they moved him to the e bike department....
  • 2 1
 The Patriot is a bit of a nostalgia bike (even though it's an E-Bike now). Might sell a few of those i reckon.
  • 1 1
 The Great Orange Hope
  • 1 0
 I noticed they gave up the shock mount inside the downtube that fold in on itself causing severe injury. Good.
  • 2 0
 Some dope resto-mods lols
  • 3 5
 Small and large builder are going bankrupt because of the electric engine delusion. Sure engines sell (for a while), but your bicycles line gets destroyed. So here we are, so sad ... the glorious Orange now selling motored-bicycles. Talk about an industry that is destroying itself!
  • 4 1
 Beautiful looking rigs.
  • 2 2
 For everyone that commented a while back saying orange was cool I expect all of you to buy a bike from them now to help them stay in business
  • 1 0
 Its great they are making a comeback.However still not the prettiest bike on the market.
  • 2 1
 That's great, they didn't have enough bikes in their line up.
  • 2 1
 Wow! Hideous! Thanks Orange!
  • 2 1
 You could move house with a storage compartment that size! Hell yeah!
  • 2 2
 Stage 6 looks great from a distance. All those welds though and the e-bike looking downtube.
  • 1 2
 Well it seems it's unanimous. Nobody wants these. Usually I see a debate over these comment sections, yes the only debate I see is "what's worse".
  • 1 1
 Who buys a bike with a 1 year frame warranty from a company with a bad rep for cracked frames?
  • 1 2
 1k for a dj frame with a year warranty plus the same old ugly expensive shite as before. They trying for a second round of bankruptcy?
  • 2 2
 All their bikes look like e-bikes. Orange bikes are not nice looking anymore
  • 1 0
 They are ugly and overpriced… but a lot of fun and easy to ride.
  • 1 2
 Their flag ship nowa these days should to keep that massive down tube and do the free ride e-bike and the rest from/steel idler style bikes now.
  • 2 5
 I want to root for 'em, but boy it seems like so many bad decisions were made in board rooms while plotting this lineup. Also, shoulda asked Norco if a super heavy long travel ebike with long chainstays was a good idea. Took those poor bastards a good 2-3 years of deep discounting to move on from that
  • 2 1
 Why does Orange use dropouts with holes? This is the opposite of sturdy.
  • 1 0
 That took a severe beating with the ugly stick.
  • 1 0
 Is Orange like the Ellsworth Bikes of the UK?
  • 1 0
 Eww...So nothing new lol?
  • 2 2
 honeslty, who buy these bikes? surprised they still alive.
  • 1 1
 5 new bikes that seem about the same as their old bikes
  • 1 2
 Cheaper, multi pivot, or both needed. And........the welds would be 100% better if these were made in Asia.
  • 1 0
 I wish them luck.
  • 2 2
 These look like the bike versions of The Homer.
  • 1 0
 ORANGE still ORANGE.
  • 1 0
 XXXXL satsuma plez
  • 2 2
 I owned a bike that looked like that 20 years ago. It was crap then.
  • 1 1
 I have a Orange Switch 6 Frameset for sale
  • 1 2
 It's 2024. Time to update the look fellas.
  • 1 1
 Evolve or die...
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