Orbea Digit Dropper Post: First Look

Jun 26, 2015
by Paul Aston  
Orbea Digit Seatpost





Orbea have a new solution to your seat height woes. Can't afford a dropper? Don't want the extra cables and weight? Fed up of adjusting your seat height to find it's never quite back in the same place, or straight? The Digit Dropper post is a simple design that solves these issues.

The post uses a friction-less clamp, which works in a similar way to a ski boot buckle, which easily pops open and closed. Open the quick release clamp, then manually move it up or down until it hits your preset minimum and maximum. The channel in the back of the post keeps things in line when adjusting and the stopper bolts allow you to choose a high and low setting. The drop range is 250mm, with 50mm increments, but you could get a full 300mm if you don't use the top bolt and your frame allows for it. The only condition is that you need a frame with a slot and round hole on the back of the seat tube, this is where the fine tuning adjuster/stopper sits so that you can achieve your perfect seat height.

The Digit will be specced on some of the lower spec Occam trail bikes, and other forthcoming models from Orbea that we can't divulge information about, yet. It's not currently going to be available as an after market product, but dependent upon feedback Orbea say this is likely to become available to the masses, and won't cost much more than a regular post.



Orbea Digit Seatpost
The allen key bolt below the clamp locks allows for fine tuning of the post to your desired height.

Orbea Digit Seatpost


MENTIONS: @orbea




130 Comments

  • 136 20
 that would of been cool 15 years ago...
  • 26 1
 250mm is a lot of drop
  • 48 1
 it is cool. I wish I had that a few years ago when I couldn't afford a proper dropper post. I hope this gonna be a good value for kids' money. And I'm guessing my dad would love to buy one. that is a good idea.
  • 56 0
 I am honestly so stoked for this! for people like me who can't afford a dropper and don't have enough seat tube for climbing/descending using a single post, this will be miles better than the other double clamp options out there out there!
  • 9 13
flag B650wagon (Jun 26, 2015 at 15:06) (Below Threshold)
 Funny that we didn't come up with this a long time ago. Add a suspension post on it and will be amazing for hardtails.
  • 19 2
 Look up tmars dropper on ebay. It's a gravity dropper knockoff and you can get them for $60. It's been reliable for me so far, and it's super simple to tear down and fix if it ever stops working.
  • 10 0
 Not to mention this could allow the seat post to go ALL the way down to the frame with out the extra 1.5 inches of reverb sticking out.Would really help people, like myself, who prefer bigger bikes but have the problem of long seat tube lengths.
  • 9 1
 It was cool 15 years ago. Norco sold a similar two-clamp post for bikes with an interrupted seat tube. Would have worked the same, minus a set screw to act as a stop.
  • 29 0
 What I'd like is a similar bare bones concept with a head mounted lever (like the thomson elite seatpost option). No oil, no remote, no return speed adjustability, no infinite adjustability. Hell, it doesn't even need a spring, just a super light, guided seatpost with a handle under the seat's nose to release the clamp pressure so you can easily pull it up or down. I bet it probably already exists somewhere.
  • 3 0
 Excellent idea. I'd buy one today if I could. I want that ks wireless dropper post, but who knows when it will hit the market? This would be a good stop gap for people like me who want a dropper but hate extra cables
  • 3 0
 @PLC07 I think you kind of have to have an oil-based system to put the lever under the seat nose. Otherwise you would need a way (like a cable) to transmit the force from your hand down to the seat clamp. The seat lever only works because it's actuating a hydraulic lockout. A mechanical seat lever would create the same reliability/aesthetics issues as a remote, so you might as well put it on your handlebars.

Gravity dropper has a non-remote option that uses a coil and no hydraulics (just holes drilled in the shaft to act as stops... which also means you can add your own positions if you have a steady hand). But the switch is located down at the top of the outer tube. The Tmars I mentioned could easily be modded to work in the same way and is dirt cheap. Or there's a KS eten version that has a seat lever. It has oil but it's cheap and reliable from what I hear.

I just sprung for a real dropper post, but I like bare-bones stuff like this orbea thing. For your home trails that you know well it would work just fine; probably 90% of the stuff I ride at home is done in full-extension (climbs) or a midway position (almost everything else) on my 3-position post. If you know when you need to drop/raise the seat, something like this would work just fine.
  • 3 3
 @jaame I have one of the most minimalist cockpits I've seen (brakes + matchmaker reverb remote and 1x10 X0 gripshift) so the cables don't really bother me all that much. I just feel that the remote, the hydraulic system, nitrogen cartridges, seals and questionable tuning options are really over complicating a concept that is simple in itself (a seatpost that goes up and down without having to stop the bike). Does it really need to weight over a pound and cost 400$?

That being said, with the type of trails I ride, I'm really thankful that I have mine.
  • 2 1
 @bkm303 I used to think it could work with a lever that pulled back a pin that locked into shaft holes. Or an inner tube that has an expanding collar putting pressure on the outer tube and the handle would compress the collar, letting the inner tube move up and down freely. The expanding collar idea would be more complex but it would have infinite adjustment (if anybody even uses that).
  • 1 0
 @jaame are you talking about Thomson bluetooth dropper or KS also have something coming? Smile
  • 2 0
 @PLC07 I totally agree. I NEED that for my XC hard tail. This solution is only barely better (and heavier) that simply using a quick release with a height and center reference scribed on the post.
Part of the appeal of a dropper is using it to adjust to the terrain on the fly.
  • 1 0
 @plc07 I agree. It's just a seat post that goes up and down. It doesn't need the quality or tech of a bloody suspension fork.

I have only heard of KS developing a wireless post. This is the first I've heard of the Thompson Bluetooth dropper...But I'm going to look now
  • 1 0
 Yeah the pin idea would work, but you'd still need a cable to run down to the pin mechanism (basically a gravity/tmars lever clamped onto your seat then). I guess it could be routed inside the post if you basically flipped the whole gravity dropper mechanism inside out and housed the pin mechanism inside the inner tube. But I doubt you could fit it all into the smaller diameter posts.
  • 1 2
 Crank bros has a crappy pin system. If they did it better and used a light spring instead of air we all would be using them today. Too bad.
  • 5 0
 I had never considered that the extra cable might stop people getting a dropper. You learn something new every day..
  • 1 0
 @clackbot "for people like me who can't afford a dropper and don't have enough seat tube for climbing/descending using a single post, this will be miles better than the other double clamp options out there out there!"

This isn't any shorter than a regular seat post.
  • 2 0
 I have a Tmars dropper, it is awesome, once you get the hang of lock/unlock the 3 positions, its like an extension of you like brakes and shifters.....
  • 2 1
 @taletotell "if crank brothers wasn't crank brothers we would ride the stuff" hahaha
  • 65 1
 They should rename it the Peasant Post, I love it
  • 54 12
 Cant' afford a dropper? Keep saving.
  • 10 0
 Yep, a proper dropper is hard to beat.
  • 12 3
 A dropper might not be all that useful to some users (e.g. on my xc bike, for example) so €250 would be way too much for a post that would remain up when going up and down when going down; this, instead, would be a very good and cheaper solution to, say, ride up the mountain, get off from the bike 3", lower the post in a jiff and start the descent with a good continuity, knowing that the saddle is as high/low as you want it to be and in the direction you want it to be.
Aaaaah, relativity.
  • 6 0
 Buy once, cry once
  • 9 0
 Buy cheap cry twice
  • 3 0
 Totally agree with Alain...cant afford a dropper?...save. BEST upgrade to any bike
  • 41 1
 Oh, I bet it works just dandy when it's packed full of mud.
  • 5 2
 this
  • 9 2
 Yeah, no sealing whatsoever and an open hole into the mechanism right where the rear wheel throws dirt. Genius.
  • 10 3
 You must be new to MTB; 4 years ago it was common to get a salsa/skg/hope QR clamp and adjust as you go. Every couple weeks you had to grease the cam... whatever. This version simplifies that.
  • 4 0
 Sleeve with a cut length of inner tube maybe.....
  • 25 0
 I think this has a lot of potential. Having the micro-adjust, upper/lower limits, and directional alignment make this seem like a real winner. We all know the person who can't seem to eyeball their seat into alignment... shit drives me crazy. And this over-center cam for a clamp: Brilliant. Where has that been all these years?
  • 19 3
 The whole idea of a dropper is for on the fly adjustments to seat post height while your moving on the bike. Maybe I read wrong but you need to stop and manually adjust the seat post. So how is this comparable?
  • 13 1
 Not so really comparable, but the idea is that you are able to switch between high and low positions quickly and always have the seat straight and at the same height.
  • 12 6
 Why do you need to stop? I can comfortably use the QR seatclamp to adjust the seat height on my enduro bike on the fly.
  • 11 0
 For most of my riding purposes, it is a long ride up, and then almost fully downhill once you reach the trailhead. It is rare on my local trails to need to adjust the seat height on the fly. I might prefer to avoid a dropper post due to weight/cost/complexity/cables in favour of a typical seatpost that I adjust once at the bottom of the hill at the start of my ride, and then once again at the trailhead. This just allows you to keep the seat heights dialed, so that you're not adjusting multiple times to find the sweet spot.
  • 4 0
 'Leg breaker' rides around here are UP, DOWN, UP, DOWN, UP, DOWN, UP, DOWN.. repeat. Either you have a remote dropper or you never ever get into the flow. That said I seriously prefer one really big up and one fun down.
  • 20 3
 How about just scratching a line on the post at the heights that you want it set to when in high/low position and just using your QR skewer?
  • 5 11
flag powderturns (Jun 26, 2015 at 14:09) (Below Threshold)
 post manufacturers encourage you to not scratch a line on there (stress concentrations, I presume), but I hear you... that seems to be the only thing this really adds - a visual/physical indicator that won't get clouded in grease.
  • 8 0
 Better yet you could make RCs ghetto dropper, but there's still nothing to prevent rotation of the post during adjustment, and that could be super annoying.
  • 12 0
 See it being beneficial for XC guys.. Like my father in law, he rides an Epic. A normal dropper with external routing looks lousy, and in reality he wouldn't use it that much. You have a lightweight option (hopefully) with no cables to route.
  • 4 2
 Doesn't work on an Epic. Doesn't come in the correct seat post diameter. He only gets a KS or the new Specialized Command Post SL.
  • 10 1
 I just use an old mudguard seat post clamp and a bit of string between that and quick release that becomes taut when I've got my seat to the right height. Didn't cost a thing and easy to drop and raise with 1 hand whilst still riding...! Much better than buying a half way house thing when you may aswell put the money towards buying a dropper when money permits...
  • 4 0
 Genius
  • 3 0
 I'm actually very impressed with that idea. I may use it myself as I always want a dropper post, but on a race bike, I don't want the weight
  • 3 1
 And when money doesn't permit, you buy this post, easy.
  • 1 0
 Didn't Pinkbike run a "Ghetto Tuesday" on this?

As someone who actually went and did it, how do you find using it in anger? Easy? frustrating to never have your saddle at the right angle?
  • 1 0
 I have installed a spring in the (unbroken) seat tube of my bike with a huge cable tie to set height. Works pretty well but not really something you can use mid trail due to the strength needed to be used to loosen and close the qr. This clamp could be a solution but in the near future i'm looking to get an RSP Plummet which is only £80-odd so...
  • 1 0
 If this had come out like a year ago I would have been bang on it. Still might if it is cheap and comes out before I have the spare cash for the Plummet dropper.
  • 9 2
 So there's no button to press? Or do I just use my mind
  • 6 0
 It's a QR seatclamp.

I am really confused as to how that is even comparable to a dropper post?...
  • 5 2
 ok so after thinking about it for a while (and i may still be wrong) but imagine this is a QR system but when you open the lever, your seat cannot twist. the post works inside a channel that only allows it to move up and down. so open the lever, the saddle drops down to a set height. i would still never buy one of these. i doubt they sell.
  • 2 0
 The idea seems to be that the redesigned QR lever combined with the channel guide make it easy/convenient enough to actually try and manipulate the height of the post without hopping off of the bike. I'd be inclined to try one out and keep one around as a spare post for when my dropper decides it has had enough, but it definitely wouldn't actually replace a real dropper. I also wouldn't be surprised to see that sort of thing specced on low-end trailbikes that normally would have a static post.
  • 2 0
 I should add, it doesn't appear to have any sort of mechanism to keep the post up on its own once it reaches your max height. Seems that would require two hands; one to lift the post/saddle and the other to close the QR. The result would appear to be that you can drop the thing while riding easily but you would still need to hop off to raise it.

I wonder if there's some simple way to keep the unweighted post at your high set point to allow for one-handed operation. That would tie the product together, I think.
  • 3 0
 Maybe it's for roadies?
  • 5 1
 All it needs is an internal spring and a remote locking mechanism and it would drastically improve on the Gravity Dropper and look better too.
  • 2 0
 @PHeller i think you just described a dropper seatpost
  • 1 0
 @mikericci except the majority of dropper posts utilize an air spring that in most cases needs a rebuild sometimes measured in months. The Gravity Droppers use of a coil spring means that some owners haven't rebuilt them in the 4-5 years of ownership. Downside? Gravity Dropper looks like hell.
  • 2 0
 So put a coil in the crankbros Dropper and you have it.
  • 8 3
 Do you think that was an intended play on words? "Dropping a digit"? Thats code for getting or giving a finger blast. AKA finger in pooper. Just saying.
  • 3 0
 Seems a reasonable idea, could be used on the fly trail permitting of course, which it's usually not.. But I agree it will probably price itself out of the market for most people.
  • 4 0
 Hmmmm....Put a spring at the bottom of the seat tube/post
and you have a lever type dropper post that will spring up if you release the clamp.
  • 1 0
 Ya beat me to saying this. Thought of this in the late 80's as an alternative to a "Hite-Rite", which were great as they kept your saddle straight. But yeah, have a long spring with a disk on both ends. It drops into the seat tube. Run an extra long bolt into the upper water bottle mount, on the seat tube, as a stopper for the spring. Have the spring attach to the bottom of the seat post via a set screw or bar-end plug type expander. On the other end of the spring, a registration hole that the longer bottle boss bolt goes into, keeping the post and the saddle lined up in the right direction. Zip tie a boot or cut section of inner tube over the seat tube insertion point to keep dirt out and keep the post greased so it slides easy ( this was also done with Hite-Rites back in the day) Only thing is to ad a lever so you don't have to reach down to the seat collar. Undoing the QR really isn't a practical way to go. Even modern droppers that don't use a bar mount lever are, IMHO, not well thought out in terms of real world riding. A company back in the day did produce a friction, bar mount QR release. Can remember who, but it's possible. To me, it just seems all this gas and oil is a bit over kill. I'm keeping an eye out for one of those hand grip strengthener squeezy things to fab my own Hite-Rite. They sure look like they were an inspiration for the original Hite-Rite. Smile
  • 2 0
 Seriously why not just make a post with those spring buttons like on extendable paddles or that hold sockets on ratchets, only when your activate the lever all the buttons all withdraw at regular intervals. Place the lever under the saddle and have the buttons use the little hole in the frame. Simple and cheap to make.
  • 4 0
 This isn't a dropper, it's a post limiter. And it was done 30 years ago img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/glasgowdan/HiteRite%20AD%201985%205M_zpsrnm2gshq.jpg
  • 1 0
 Ha! love it. I can just see a big spring like that on my $8k bike. :-)
  • 2 0
 Such a simple and great idea!

If this seatpost came out in 400mm length (and one-bolt seat mount), I would probably buy it. I don't want a 250$ dropper seat post, which has a very limited range of motion and may be destroyed after few hard landings, when all I need is just an ability to quickly and painfully change seat position once in a while. And I don't see a reason why couldn't you do on-the-fly regulations to drop it, you'll just need few seconds of flat trail.

If only this groove was on the other side, so that it doesn't get full of mud too easily...
  • 5 4
 That's a nifty idea. The price discrepancy between a good quality seatpost and a dropper isn't all that large though so I'm not sure of its efficacy in the market. If a thompson post is like 80 bones and a reverb can be had for like 250 then why not spend the extra few dollars (assuming the orbea falls somewhere in the middle of this spectrum) and get a true droppr.
  • 8 3
 Where are you finding a reverb for $250? That's insanity.
  • 2 0
 www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/rock-shox-reverb-stealth-125-connectamajig-seatpost-30%2C9-mmx-right-90725
the german sites are insane. check out the tire prices while you're at it. schwalbe and conti are 35$ for high end tires, all sizes.
  • 7 2
 We're talking about a seatpost, a friggin' tube which just needs to be solid, why would you need something more expensive than €30 for a normal seatpost?!? So, considering the entry level Reverb dropper costs €260, I think that €230 is a HUGE price discrepancy. And even if you go for a ridiculous €80 for a Thompson, the discrepancy is more than 2/3, which is plenty.
Maybe to you a €160 discrepancy is peanuts (we all know that expensive/cheap is a relative thing), but this is clearly aimed at those who don't have a spare €160. Like me. I'd rather buy it right away for €80 for my xc bike and spend €160 on beer for a month.
  • 6 1
 want one. drawing a line on a seatpost is hard.
  • 2 1
 I'm all for new, innovative products (bring on 28" wheels!) but this is ridiculous. You can save a lot of money, time and hassle over this product by putting two small marks on your seat post - one for the correct height for climbing and for descending. You could go crazy and even put three small marks. You could even line these marks up with a tiny mark on the seat collar, to keep the seat straight. Problem solved.
  • 1 0
 I don't use a dropper post because I just don't need it. Of course there're situations that would be easier with one but it does not outweight the - i.m.o. - disadvantages (cable/hose, remote, weight, maintenance, etc.).
But if I would buy one Orbea would be on top of the list.
  • 1 0
 This could be my next projekt, make it proper droper....
Id make the lower half air proof, no air will go out...but in
Thanks to a shwalbe tire in i thats cuten right in size and burn glued right to shaoe so no air will flow out....
Second part is to add air in it
How?
With a hole in the thing and a vlave at it...

Or the tubeless version
By just buying a ks or reverb
It does the job pretty damn right
For more money Wink
  • 1 0
 Or with a soft srping....
Like...
Idk
Its soft, and has a spring...its cheap, why nit do it ?
  • 1 0
 I'll stick with my KS-LEV thank you for the ultimate in functionality, but I can see a use-case for this post, as obviously Orbea did. I think they would have to price it way lower than any remotely adjustable dropper post, like sub $75 in my way of thinking.
  • 1 0
 May be they should try to include a spring to raise it. IMHO this is a great start to dropper posts that are made simple and light. Pneumatic ones are designed to be complicated thus justifying it's high selling price. Function wise they are the best but I think lots of end user money would be spent on servicing and maintenance before the killer craft is perfected. And probably even then it'll be still expensive and heavy.
  • 1 0
 I do like the clamp, would buy that on its own... issues with the post, mud and dirt (conceivably it could be faced forward if the seat tube split allowed ?) The spring idea allowing for full 250mm extension would require some sort of spring, not really practical also to try to release while on the fly, just as well buy a proper gravity post....
  • 1 0
 Will let the dust settle, then get something. I've been riding since the 1980's and have gone for years without an adjustable seatpost and I think I can go a bit longer without one. I've read too many posts of people's hydro-posts slipping and I'm not spending a ton of money for something that will slip after a season or two.
  • 4 0
 Thaaaaaat, is really awesome.
  • 4 0
 Just like the Titec el norte... $15
  • 3 1
 Crank Bros tried a similar approach with Kronolog and it came out worse than their earliest pedals (which is freaking hard to beat) but I wish Orbea all the best!
  • 4 0
 But does it get the hite Smile rite? Cool OHHHH YEAAA
  • 2 0
 Wow this little seat post is getting 1/6 the shit boost 148 is, and that is too much. At least they are trying to cause useful inovation.
  • 2 0
 So you still have to open a QR to activate the dropper? I hate to be the bearer of bad news but that exists for far cheaper. It's a QR seatclamp.....
  • 5 3
 I bet those sell. . . like day old hotcakes. All the weight and none of the benefits of a dropper!
  • 4 2
 Is this the same bicycle industry that pushes for carbon bike frames and wheels? I'm confused.
  • 1 0
 As what has been said, this would have been cool several years back but that seat post and clamp may be onto something, I like it.
  • 1 0
 i'd use it as i stay seated a lot but for the odd obstacle and descent it'd be nice, as the saddle being in the way is the reason why i have a set of pedal pins in my thigh.
  • 4 1
 this is compleetly pointless
  • 2 1
 Don't get it.. get a paint marker. mark your post and qr and it will be just as fast, simpler, lighter and cheaper. OR.. get a real dropper.
  • 1 0
 so how is it going to work after a winter of riding in the rain and muck , that big slot in the back is gonna get full of crap
  • 3 0
 Austerity technology - #like
  • 2 0
 Added complexity to achieve the same an ordinary post would. At the same time things will go wrong. Stupid idea
  • 2 0
 So, why no spring?.. Without the seat popping back up, it's essentially a seat clamp with a guide
  • 1 0
 still gonna have to get off the bike to get the seat back up.. that being the case i dont see how this is an improvement over the classic scratch in the seat post method.
  • 1 0
 Thanks for this thread, I was able to buy one of those $15 Titecs and solve an annoying problem with my old interrupted seat tube bike.
  • 4 2
 So once dropped - how do you get it back up? I don't get it.
  • 3 1
 That is the most complicated seat QR I have ever seen.
  • 4 1
 Stupid
  • 3 1
 Oh wait you serious, let me laugh even harder! Hahahahah
  • 2 0
 best new invention I've seen in years!
  • 2 0
 I like it!
  • 5 4
 Is this a joke ? It's a quick release lever I'm really confused .
  • 2 1
 I wonder how it works in muddy conditions...
  • 2 1
 Seriously...that groove would be so full of mud.
  • 1 1
 Just had a flash of genius. Put an old boxer or 40 spring inside this post. Bang, dropper post. Easy
  • 1 0
 Thats what I thought
  • 1 0
 @groghunter. Hite Rite! I forgot the name but remember the product.
  • 1 0
 exactly what I was thinking...
  • 1 0
 I saving for the Bluetooth cable-less dropper.
  • 1 1
 You could couple this with one of those old Hite-Rite springs, THEN you've got yourself a budget dropper...
  • 3 1
 Just get a dropper.
  • 1 0
 too many grooves to fill up with trail shite
  • 1 0
 Titec Knockbox?
  • 1 1
 Yes please. Make sure it's got a decent seat clamp on it and I'm in.
  • 1 0
 Put me down for one
  • 1 1
 Its cool tec. But its a drop'r post.
  • 1 1
 Love it!
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