Field Test: Yeti SB150

Dec 6, 2018
by Mike Kazimer  


PINKBIKE FIELD TEST

Yeti SB150

Nothing but stability.



Words by Mike Kazimer, photography by Trevor Lyden


Whistler is the location where Yeti's SB150 made its first public appearance, so it made sense to get one in for the Pinkbike Field Test to see how it held up to the countless EWS-worthy trails scattered throughout the valley.

The SB150 was designed with speed and stability in mind, and the result is the longest and slackest bike in Yeti's lineup. It's a full carbon affair, with 150mm of rear travel delivered by Yeti's Switch Infinity system, and a 170mm fork up front.

This race-bred 29er has geometry numbers that would have been considered extreme not too long ago, but are quickly gaining traction. The 64.5-degree head angle, 460mm reach on a size medium, and 77-degree seat angle all put the SB150 up in the lead pack when it comes to modern geometry.
Yeti SB150 Details

• Intended use: all-mountain / enduro
• Wheel size: 29"
• Rear wheel travel: 150mm
• 64.5° head angle
• 433mm chainstays
• Weight: 29.9 lb / 13.6 kg
• Lifetime frame warranty
• Price: $8,599 USD / Frame only: $3,800 USD
www.yeticycles.com

Our test bike received the X01 Race build kit, which includes a SRAM X01 12-speed drivetrain, Code RSC brakes, a Fox 36 GRIP 2 fork, and DT Swiss' XM1501 alloy wheelset. All of those niceties brings the price up to $8,599 USD, while a frame only goes for $3,800 USD.

You'll notice that we put the SB150 in the Trail / Enduro category of the Field Test, rather than in the 'Super Enduro' segment. There's no hard and fast rule on how to categorize bikes, but in this instance the SB150 ended up grouped with the Santa Cruz Bronson, Trek Remedy, Specialized Stumpjumper, and Kona Process 153 due to the fact that it has 150mm of rear wheel travel, while the bikes in the Super Enduro segment all have 160mm or more. Yes, it has the slackest head angle in this category by half a degree, but it also has a 170mm fork, while the other contenders have 160 or 150mm of travel up front.



Yeti SB150
Yeti SB150


Climbing

The SB150 isn't the absolute quickest handling climber, but the back end stays remarkably calm, even if you're putting the power down while pedaling out of the saddle. The lack of excessive suspension movement while heading uphill was impressive, especially considering the fact that there was still plenty of compliance to take the edge of small bumps, and to keep the rear wheel stuck to the ground on trickier ascents.

Some testers noted that the Kona Process 153 felt more lively on the climbs, likely due to that bike's steeper head angle, and the fact that it has 160 rather than a 170mm fork. The SB150 has a more gravity-oriented nature, but the reasonable weight and steep seat angle helped keep it very manageable on long climbs.


Yeti SB150

Yeti SB150
Yeti SB150

Descending

The SB150 truly is a superbike on the descents, and testers had nothing but praise for its handling in rough terrain. There's plenty of high speed stability on tap, but it's also a bike that's easy to play around on, whether that's by manualing out of a corner, or airing into a minefield of roots and rocks just to see what will happen. This is a bike that's much friendlier than its numbers suggest – you don't need to have the skills of an EWS pro in order to have a good time on the trail.

Mother Nature delivered several wet, slippery days during the Field Test, and the SB150 continued to shine in those more challenging conditions. On sections of trail where other bikes felt like they were getting bounced around and knocked off line it just keep trucking along, with a smooth, forgiving ride. Part of the reason for that forgiving feel lies with the frame design itself. The SB150 doesn't have the absolute stiffest swingarm out there, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. An overly rigid frame can lead to a harsh, jarring ride, and that was never the case here.

I've been putting additional miles in on the SB150 in preparation for a longer term review, and have had a number of riders ask about tire clearance. More and more 2.6" tires are hitting the market, but the SB150's max tire size is 2.5", and even that might be pushing things a bit depending on which tire and rim combo you use. I've been running a 2.4" Maxxis Minion DHR II WT for the last two months, a time period that's included multiple extra-muddy rides, and haven't run into any frame clearance issues at all - the paint on the chainstays is untouched.



Yeti SB150


Pros

+ Very stable at speed and in the steeps
+ Excellent grip in wet and loose conditions
+ Good pedaling performance
Cons

- Expensive
- EXO casing tires aren't the best choice for a race bike
- Slightly limited rear tire clearance




388 Comments

  • + 225
 Remember when YT sold an aluminum bike with a similar spec for less than this frame? That was a good few hours...
  • + 17
 Which is exactly why I bought one! I kinda feel bad for my friend that has a SB150...not sure the 150 is 3x the bike.
  • + 7
 The Alu YTs will be out in Feb.
  • + 23
 Except they have been sold out for months and the new Capra sold out in like a day. YT's are great value but you cannot get them. I don't like waiting 6 months for a bike, no thanks.
  • - 44
flag basiledownhill (Dec 6, 2018 at 12:43) (Below Threshold)
 guys thats not the same business ... can't compare these bike even they have the same appearance. the cinematic design and work is totally different. just the switch infinity make everything different. the carbon construction is different, they are handmade in USA .. I don't think thats the case of YT
  • + 65
 Remember when YT had bikes in stock?
  • + 3
 @Snowsed341: I just bought a second one. No problem. If you want one you just need to plan a bit.
  • + 58
 @basiledownhill: Yeti bikes are NOT handmade on North America.
You just drink the teal kool-aid.
  • + 24
 @basiledownhill: Yeti's are made in Vietnam.
  • + 24
 @rideonjon: handmade in north america with a "made in vietnam" sticker on the frame LOL
  • + 8
 @basiledownhill: YT carbon frames are made on the island formerly known as Formosa.
  • - 2
 @endlessblockades: didn't know that. is it recent ? cause I'm quite sure they were made in usa for a while .. good to know
  • + 4
 @Frontrange: good move on Yeti's part due to increasing labour cost out of China in the last years!
  • + 3
 @basiledownhill: They're not handmade in the USofA. Frames are made in Vietnam.
  • + 3
 @basiledownhill: The older alloy models were probably made in the US, but the carbon ones are not.
  • + 4
 Are there any U.S.-made carbon frames?
  • + 2
 @emptybox: Thanks. Which ones?
  • + 5
 @TheR: I know Alchemy builds in the good ol' US of A.
  • + 8
 @TheR: I couldn’t find a Pinkbike reference, so here you go. Small scale for Ibis at this point, but they are trying:
www.bikemag.com/gear/ibis-takes-small-step-toward-u-s-carbon-production
  • + 5
 @mikepal: why feel bad.. Hes probably stoked on that bad boy! Money spent is all relative.
  • + 1
 @Snowsed341: Exactly.. That and u can not buy frame only.. Atleast out of Canada..
  • + 1
 @rideonjon: Not Kool-Aid.. Switch is the real deal.. Awesome riding bikes.
  • + 3
 @TheR: Ibis makes some of their carbon frames in the US and plans on increasing US production.
  • + 1
 @rideonjon: only the front triangle
  • + 2
 I didn’t have any problems with stock... YT’s black Friday sale this year I purchased the wife a Jeffsy 29er and my brother bought a Capra. Picked the bikes up literally the next week here from the local San Clemente, CA outlet (no shipping charges even!). Awesome prices, perfect location and awesome product! I already have a ‘16 Capra of my own and love it - brother basically bought the same bike I have for about $1k less than I did back then and I thought I got a deal then.
  • + 10
 I could buy about 85 Huffys for the price of this bike...
  • + 0
 But if any of these frames are worth big money it's this Yeti. The attention to the rear supension design and frame details are way above the others. Compare this frame with the Specialized that they just field test for example, what they are charging for that is a joke.
  • + 5
 @Ricardino: I agree. The MSRPs for SWorks, Treks 9.9, carbon Rocky Mountains and couple more are just plain ridiculous. I am not sold at all on Yetis (over)complicated design with ehat looks like steam engine, and maybe can be used in the future to charge a battery of Yet-E bike, but the whole thing does look spectacular. I saw a couple of Yetis in real life and it always eletrifies the environment around, people sre looking at them, talkin about them. They look slick as fuk. Hopefully Intense will get that Wow factor back. Santa Used to be like that too but they completely lost it with looks straight out of Ikea catalogue. If Volvo made bikes, they would look like Santa Cruz. Esthetical and functional boredom. And thumbs up for Yeti for making a long travel 29er instead of staying in Down/Country Up/Duro segment
  • + 7
 @Ricardino: but specialized gives you a lunch box so....
  • + 0
 @zyoungson: and OneUp tool... wait!
  • + 1
 @bohns1: 100% agree. You gotta ride it to believe it.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: well said Waki! Smile
  • + 1
 anyone know where to get yeti’s at a good price on the interwebs?
  • + 4
 @sevensixtwo: wait one year... then scan ebay and buy/sell. They are full of people who bought a bike and never looked back. I saw a couple of older Poles and Geometrons this year. I know... they bought one size too small! Or they realized that those bikes weren't the second coming of Christ...
  • + 1
 @bohns1: You're 100% right...It's a awesome bike. Everyone has a different opinion on value.
  • + 1
 @JEDDE: like the specials that you bought in december and they ordered in Jan/fab and you got the bike sin may.... good times
  • + 118
 Ok, I have a couple issues with this bike...

1. This "X01 Race" build costs $11400 (Cdn) yet you still a GX chain?? C'mon.... not really a big deal, but frankly at those prices, why the skipping?? Also at those prices, I'd expect to see a full XX1 build. But no, with Yeti, you have to spend $12600 (cdn) to get an XX1 build... and then they still skimp and give you the X01 crankset, but hey, at least you get the chain.. haha! I get that a lot of companies mix and match... but again, at 10 or 12k I don't want any peasant value-added mixing and matching. I didn't go through the hell of dental school to spend 12k and get a X01 crankset. Give me the whole group or GTFO.

2. That flexy of rear end on a fairly long travel carbon 29'r is a bit worrisome... have heard similar from other reviews, will be interested to hear how that plays out long term... and yes, depending on the bike's design could be a good thing.

3. Rear tire spec... the Aggressor is suspect, but could be understood depending on where the majority of the these bikes are going. But no 3C? So, I'm spending 10K+ and I still have to buy or do a shop swap and add money to get a proper rear tire? Again at 10K+, I shouldn't have to worry about that shit. What would be really nice is if bikes at this price point offered a choice of rubber, even if it's from the same company, offering various treads, widths, compounds and carcass choice would be a nice touch. But I'm guessing any legitimate shop you're spending that much dough with would probably sort you out.

I shouldn't really even complain, Yeti's prices are out of my reach... but I just don't like seeing this kind of thing from such a premium bike at such a premium price. If you're spending this much... you should expect the bike to be fully sorted, no f*cking around.
  • + 14
 I don't run 3c rear tires, and I spend as much money as I want. I think they are expensive, but I wouldn't want the 3c in back outside of a race condition. BUT the price should reflect that.
  • + 13
 - The chain thing is stupid...SRAM says of all the things to go big on, its the chain...not sure if valid or not but for the price!
- X01 cranks are more appropriate for an Enduro weapon like this. More durable/stiffer iirc. XX1 other stuff...eh, I think even some of the X01 stuff is lighter. If the gold bling is your thing, then sure tho. At this price I'd want fancy new XTR just to be new and cool since I paid all that.
- 3C rear tire is going against the grain. I think most are interested in 3C up front and 2C out back. Rude is doing fine with the tires when I watch him...personally I'd want a DHR2 2.4 over aggressor for this big of a bike.
- Flexy rear end sounds like a flaw they are pitching as a feature. Not sure I would notice but without SuperBoost+ on a 29er, I'd certainly still want a stiff backend. With SuperBoost+...maybe flexy would be nice.
  • + 21
 @Svinyard: Tuned flex is a real thing, but what really matters if it affects anything else and how. Motorcycles have been doing it for 30 years.
  • + 14
 Ye old Maxxis Aggressor is only available in DC. I'd assume Maxxis has determined most folks prefer a slightly firmer rubber compound that will have less rolling resistance and slower wear.
  • - 4
flag Archimonde (Dec 6, 2018 at 11:10) (Below Threshold)
 @Mgabriel757: Not really sure about that one. I have magic mary ultra soft SG front and double down agressor rear. The latter is considerably softer compound than the former.
  • + 16
 Do you just copy and past your complaints from one forum to the next?
  • + 6
 @Svinyard: Flexy doesn't mean bad and stiff doesn't mean good. it 's a wrong concept dating from the early days when mtb frames where made of noodle and from roadies that don't know any better.
If a frame is too stiff, it's harsh and it can't hold a line because it deflects on every terrain irregularity. A more flexy frame give compliance and comfort. It's highly desirable and Corbon fiver allow to control where on how much compliance to add to the frame
  • + 2
 Hey, don't begrudge Yeti their profits, it's just sustainable business.

Just kidding. Their pricing is other-worldly. I've heard a conspiracy theory that Yeti has built their branding around wealthy riders who buy in because they want to show their buddies they've got cash (bike loans and special financing aside), and I actually think this might be all too true...
  • + 3
 While I agree with what you said.... how are yeti prices out of your reach? You're a dentist. Smile
  • + 2
 @deserat: yes.. wasn't going to comment then I thought, "you know what, the more Yeti hears it and sees how many people agree, the better!!" ***paste***
  • + 1
 3C tires last like 2 weeks of desert riding. Agressor is great for many race courses, but should be DD instead of EXO.
  • + 1
 @zdebruine: Yeti's GX builds are the same or cheaper than other brand's GX builds, and that's probably what most people buy.
  • - 1
 @zdebruine: this is a business model that works well in many industries. Food (Whole Foods), clothing (kit & ace), bike shops (Steed Cycles), etc. Lots of gullible people out there.
  • - 1
 @Svinyard: Tires... ya, I guess that more of a personal preference... ride a lot of slab and rock, having the extra grip without the slip is nice.
  • + 2
 islandforlife - This a copy from the stuff you wrote on the MTBR forum... #axe2grind
  • + 13
 This is a gorgeous bike, and from all the reviews I've read/seen it appears to perform exceptionally well. If I had the money (mega millions lottery winner), or just a serious bankroll, I'd probably buy one - the same way a guy buys a Bentley or Ferrari. Who cares? Spend the money if you want to. I wonder perhaps, what the industry may face, when so many competitors can achieve pretty similar geometry and performance? You have huge gaps in margins, and I think this will lead to deflation, actually. The success of YT "etc" is predicated on building a pretty awesome bike, with good spec - at an easier entry point. Then again, I could be wrong! The Bentley has not limited the sales of Bentleys themselves, nor boosted Toyota sales. Guess this comes back to free market, free will. Let those who wanna buy a Yeti do so. Those who wanna buy a YT do so. Whatevs. World spins. So long as jobs are created and people are riding, heck yeah! Smiles all around.
  • + 4
 I 100% agree with you on that. For that kind of $ they shouldn't be skimping on spec. If they need to make the bike $50 more to get you the proper components, while still protecting their margins, fine. But they shouldn't be leaving it up to the customer to make the swap after the purchase. I noticed they also spec the regular fox seatpost and not the factory one, which is only $60 more!

That being said, at least Yeti specs a Kashima fork and shock at their 2nd highest spec. Not a lot of other premium brands do that... they make you go full XX1 or XTR. Santa Cruz for example... you can spend $11,000 CAD and still have 3rd world, non-kashima components.
  • + 3
 Gx chain shifts better, xx1 is so rigid it shifts fast but you have to make perfect shifts or it will skip a cog and beats the piss out of the cassette. Same goes near the end of a ride when there is some dirt in there, Gx has better shift feel and climbs onto the next cog instead of jumping straight onto it. Starting to see gx on some bikes with xo1/xx1 probably for this reason.
  • + 8
 @MRwillP: Personally I hate the look of the kashima dropper.
  • + 5
 Even dentists are complaining about 10K+ Mtb bikes now
  • + 6
 For Yeti money, I want Maxxis to make me a special Aggressor in 3C. They can use the same compound for the outer 2 layers, as long as they use the 3C process. And on the sidewall, instead of "MAXXIS" I want it to say "PHILE99 by Maxxis." Right??
  • + 3
 The Aggressor 2.5 is a decent tire, even here on The Shore in winter. It's a bit loose, but passable. I think the 150 spec's a 2.3 ???? Oh, don't go price out a frame in Canada, it's north of 5K :-)
  • + 0
 @Karve: Ya, ya, maybe I'm spamming... but like I replied to the other guy - yes.. wasn't going to comment then I thought, "you know what, the more Yeti hears it and sees how many people agree, the better!!" ***paste***
  • + 5
 @BrentZombie: Ha, not actually a dentist... just a sad attempt at a joke.
  • + 1
 Dont buy one. Line up for a YT loaded with garbage E13 parts and no water bottle.
  • + 0
 @zdebruine: they will never make money at that price point
  • + 0
 @ryanm189: if i had the money
  • + 1
 @MRwillP: not sure why people are down voting you - maybe because you told the truth?
  • + 0
 You forgot the stem it comes with
  • + 1
 That price is stupid dumb.
  • + 0
 We can all agree that anything Yeti in this world today is expensive: bikes, beer coolers, and hats ect. They are all very high quality.
  • + 2
 @Smallbright: true enough. And I think sometimes people confused 'expensive' with rip off. A Ferrari is expensive, but not exactly a rip off. It's the value one gets. I suppose some people have a 'beef' because they think a $12,000 rig would really be 6000 or maybe 8000. Now we are talking about 'value.' What is the value relative to the price.
  • + 11
 @zdebruine: I'm none of those.. I'm a blue collared heavy equipment diesel tech that bought a 130 because it absolutely shreds and switch performance is top bill.. Its... The yeti owners I know bought em for the same reasons.. Most of us have bought frame only builds and just swapped parts from existing bikes and then just upgrade bits here and there over time...

It's really not that expensive or some unattainable object if you got priorities in line..

All I know is my co workers and buddies got far more expensive hobbies than owning a 10k bike.
  • + 0
 @islandforlife: its blown way out of proportion.. The new bikes shred and no one bike is perfect.
  • + 2
 @MRwillP: Frame only is the answer.. Got into my 130 for a bit over 5k cad.. Swapped some bits from my other bike mixed and matched some Eagle components that I got online and good to go.. It doesn't have to be a 11k build complete purchase..

You can save a ton doing frame only!
  • + 0
 @ukr77: huh.. Got mine for $4300..
  • + 1
 @Golden-G: u mean the yt's that don't do frame only and are never in stock.
  • + 0
 @Brytrl8tr: ok.. That's why they've been in business as long as they have.. You are not their market.. Yeti has a strong following... Were looking into the new year now at my lbs for orders.. Selling like hotcakes.
  • + 1
 Regarding the flexy rear and limited tire clearance, one owner couldn't run even a 2.4 without significant tire rub, it wound up in an argument with him and Yeti. Yeti eventually have him a full refund on the bike. The full story can be read in this thread, user name is streetdoctor. I would definitely read before buying.
forums.mtbr.com/yeti/sb130-sb150-issues-1089983.html#post_13840522
  • + 1
 @islandforlife: I got your joke!
  • + 3
 This build costs less than the S works Spaz and sounds like a better bike. Good value then in that company.
  • + 2
 @ryanm189: if this really is the Ferrari/Bentley of mountainbikes, it shouldn't be included in this test, just like a car magazine wouldn't compare a Bentley to a Toyota/Ford/...
  • + 2
 @catweasel: Read all that.. Not sure how that's the case.. I'm easily clearing 2.4 on my sb130 on a 35mm nox carbon wheelset without any issue what so ever.. I can see how a 2.5 would be tight however.
  • + 1
 @bohns1: Yeah no idea, just thought it was interesting reading. Pretty well stated case with photos etc, maybe he just got a bad rear triangle. Sounds like Yeti did right by him overall, even if the process sounds a little irritating.
  • + 1
 @kmg0: isn’t the tuned flex in the wheel already on a 29er? Haha.. Unless you have carbon rims? Idk I’ve never ridden a full squish bike that a flexy rear was a good thing personally. You got shifting issues going on back there etc..
  • + 1
 @catweasel: That's what I'm wondering.. Rear end not in spec perhaps...
  • + 1
 @bohns1: exactly!!!
  • + 1
 @endlessblockades: what about the $9500 Stumpy??
  • + 2
 @catweasel: same issue with mine. 2.5 aggressor rubs significantly on the chain stays. I originally had a high roller 2.5 and there is NO WAY it was going to fit. Not to mention all the scrapes and scuffs I have from rocks sticking in the tire and nicking the carbon. Not sure why Yeti claims it can run a 2.5. I absolutely love the bike, but it’s defintely an issue.
  • + 1
 @bcar08: I run a 2.5 Aggressor on my SB150. No problems rubbing. In fact not a a single rub mark and the bike has 200 heavy miles on it. The Aggressor is mounted to a 29mm internal width Nox rim. That being said, I am a lighter rider so perhaps the rear triangle isn't flexing that much.
  • + 1
 @jejsd: That can be said of any material.....
  • + 1
 @Dogbite14: One of my favorite bikes was a GT sensor 9'r from 2010. it has shit loads of unintentional side-flex. But it was absolutely amazing at cornering and you could drop your knee into the top tube and absolutely rail corners and the rear end tracked well because it just flexed over the bumps. Now i never had it for so long that i needed to get parts for it as a result so i can't say anything about durability, but i never had shifting issues and it was open 135qr.
  • + 59
 now: shows up to the trailhead flossin' on the new 150.

later: shows up flossing your molars in the chair.
  • + 18
 I'm glad we're all in a good mood today. Pinkbike is a fickle beast.
  • + 16
 Likely accurate.
  • + 1
 LOL!
  • + 1
 We have a winner!
  • + 25
 Overpriced. I'm sure there are loads of bikes out there that cost a lot less that perform just as well if not better.
  • + 7
 I agree. With that said, I’m kinda interested in how the $5199 base model performs.
  • + 7
 @yoondaman: I have the GX build and its pretty awesome, i bet the X01 is maybe a 5% increase in performance over the GX.

5199 is inline with almost all the other bike companies for a similar build.

The direct sales companies are a different beast, i get it!!!
  • - 1
 @yoondaman: for most people, probably exactly the same. The X2 is sweet, but very few riders need it. Carbon wheels are nice, but most will be happy with the DT M1900s. The DUB Eagle GX cranks could probably be swapped out for something lighter for a few hundred bucks. The Fox 36 Performance is probably all that most riders need.
  • + 18
 Agreed, and so is a Mercedes relative to a pimp Volvo at $30 - $40 k cheaper. It's all about ones bankroll and desire. I say freewill, free market - let'r rip. It is annoying to have a piece of candy in front of one's eyes that we can't afford (I don't ride a Yeti either). But, so long as jobs are created, and people are smiling...I'm stoked. Besides, all this overpriced stuff (if that's what people call it), has created the value options for YT, Commencal, Spot, Canyon etc - they fill that 'margin gap' - some dope bikes at cheaper entry points.
  • + 1
 @ryanm189: man that's a really positive way to look at it, right on.

On the other hand, when $5k is the 'lower'priced model.. makes it hard for me to view anyone riding a late model Yeti as an intelligent person. But you're still right, let people ride what they want. It's all good.
  • + 1
 @ryanm189: Probably the most valid point I have ever read on here! Impossible not to agree.
  • - 4
flag SunsPSD (Dec 6, 2018 at 13:32) (Below Threshold)
 @mikealive: They are dramatically more successful than you, and that usually doesn't occur without superior intellect.
So the way I see it, if someone sees a grown man riding an inferior inexpensive bike, well we must view them as a bit unintelligent, poor things.
JK of course, but really there is no need to make comments like yours above. Some people have different priorities and yes, some people just have a LOT more money. No need to judge them for that.
  • - 1
 @mikealive: Mike, can't believe all these people are down voting you. Truth hurts.
  • - 2
 @SunsPSD: having lots of disposable income =/= superior intellect. You drawing such a conclusion is just sad.

Spending 5k on the lowest spec Yeti is anyone's prerogative, do what you want with your money, I said as much already. Doesn't mean I have to hold them in high regard for doing so. And I'm sure the opinion of a single person isn't going to make them lose any sleep at night... but thank you for signaling your virtuous take on the matter. You truly are better than me for taking such a pious stance.
  • + 11
 @mikealive: I have an SB150 and I am not rich. I sold my last bike which was nice with alot of upgrades. I got 4k on the used market and bought a SB150 GX with upgrades. I can slowly upgrade over time.

I think people need to take in consideration inflation also. The price of everything has gone up over the last 10 years. This bike would have been 3.5-4k 10 years ago but inflation kicks in. The problem is people and myself included are stuck in pricing from 10 years ago.

Now if you are buying the bike full in then 5k is alot of money. Like @SunsPSD stated though in SOCAL where the price of living is very high and salaries are very high this bike is more accessible. If one saves 420 a month he can have this bike within a year. It all comes down to what your priorities are. I don't drink alcohol or smoke so i save alot there. I drive a prius and not some huge truck with a high payment.

It all comes down to where you want to put your money. If you live at home and have a job this bike is easily accessible if you just cut back on luxuries. You don't have to buy the 9k version.

I also understand YT has great pricing but can anyone even get a bike as they are always sold out. YT is also not a yeti, pivot, or ibis.
  • + 1
 @Snowsed341: Well stated!
  • + 3
 @Snowsed341: "if you live at home". Do you mean live with your parents.......
  • + 2
 @jimbodunnig: yes live with parents - the younger riders.
  • + 4
 @Snowsed341: I already agree with 90% of what you said. I'd even argue that making the sacrifices needed to reach your goal makes it that much sweeter when you get there, be it a bike, weight loss, whatever you set your goal as...the result often means more when it doesn't necessarily come easy, right? I bet you appreciate the heck out of your Yeti, and by all means you ought to. It's a really nice bike. I'm not sure your inflation comparison checks out or how a higher salary, along with a higher cost of living, gets you to a point where you have more disposable income...but I think I follow the point you're making.

However, your response shows that people may be missing my original point. I'm not debating whether someone has the means or not to buy the bike. I don't care if you save for a year, or can buy it out of one paycheck--that is irrelevant. I'm arguing that Yeti has become a symbol of excess within the bike industry. You are paying a premium for the name, with debatable -if any- performance advantage over most of its peers. That's probably as much a nod to how good current bikes are as much as it is a dig on Yeti, but so be it.

My entire family and most of my non-riding friends think I'm nuts to have spent as much as I have on the bikes I own. Do they think it's a bit excessive? Sure, just like I think their 4500sf homes are a bit much... but we're still friends all the same. So sorry man, yeah I think Yetis are a bit over-the-top with their pricing based on what you get. People also buy base model Porches--some will think 'why would you do that' and others will think 'hey, sweet car', so it is what it is. What ever puts a smile on your face dude! I'm sure you're not gonna lose any sleep over what this stranger on the internet thinks about the bike you own. Cheers.
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 the judgemental comments on people who decide to buy Yetis are a bit sad. All I can think of is its the old - I cant have it - so ill slag it mentality. Do those same people feel that they have to comment on others pricey, cars, watches, computer kit, nights out, clothes, food etc etc. There is always a value option in this world, which is great, but not everyone wants or needs to take it.
  • + 4
 @mikealive: I totally hear ya. I do agree they are expensive and agree with everything you are saying. I think in general the bike industry pricing is crazy.

If i was a millionaire or lottery winner i still would not buy a 4500 sqft house for my family of four. That's just how i am. I put my money into things that make me happy. 2000sqft is a perfectly good size imo and a let less work to keep up. For others a huge house might be important.

My bike makes me happy. I also really like what Yeti as a company stands for (Nate Hills) and i will admit the Yeti Turq color is pretty awesome. Yeti as a company is charging a premium and tthe performance gains if any are marginal at best. I do like the way the SI climbs and feels, but i also like the way DW bikes feel.

I demo'd a YT Capra 29 six months ago. It was really fun and a great bike. It did everything well. If the YT was my bike i would be stoked on that also.

I know that i am fortunate to have a wife that understands the happiness i get from riding my bike, and is willing to let me pay the price.
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 @Snowsed341: Yep, the Yeti Turq color is awesome! Full disclosure, I was a Yeti fanboy for years. The 2007 575 was my *dream* bike back then. When I was still in the bike industry, I was taking the SB95 demo home any weekend that it wasn't reserved--and it was the first bike in my experience where the 'climbs like a hardtail' groaner started to have a hint of truth to it. Wore the hat at the shop, always happy to talk to a customer about Yeti. Something seemed to change soon there after both in the company and the people seeking out Yetis, the whole 'Yeti Tribe' thing, and that shaped my view on the brand to some extent. In a nutshell, the Yeti reps had a couple hot bikes, and they knew it, and they treated the shops like shit at the time. I've been out of the industry for years now, so that may all be in the past these days. You being a fan of Nate Hills tells me that you have found a different connection to the company or a reason to be a fan, and I'm all for it man, absolutely.

Your lottery analogy was brilliant! That is a perfect illustration in terms of a house size, and it fits just as well in terms of how I feel about buying a Yeti--even if the lottery hits tomorrow, still don't know if I could talk myself into it, haha. I think I'd be more likely to buy a second decent loaner bike for when friends come to visit. Who knows.

I hope you leave this comments section and go give your wife a hug and a thank you, because it's not just that she is cool with you spending the money on a Yeti, but that she also understands the "happiness" part of riding. Good stuff man!

@Karve It has nothing to do with "I can't have it so I'll slag it". I'm a tradesman, have no kids, and have enough disposable income to sustain a number of hobbies, though I have no interest in getting into that pissing match right now. If a person doesn't stop and think twice before they drop 4, 5, or 8 thousand quid on a new bike *that they pedal around for a hobby*, then they are either rich beyond 95% of other people, or not rational. The R Aluminum Bronson is $3500US -- is this to be deemed the new "value option"? I'd argue that so, so many of the bike brands price structures are getting to a point that they are literally pricing newcomers out of the sport. A decent hardtail costs almost $2k these days.. And, as I said before, Yeti is at the extreme end of this issue, and that is why I said something.
All that said, if @Snowsed341 was ever in town I'd gladly take him out to the local trails. I'd probably still think he was on an over-priced bike, and he'd probably still not care, and then we'd go grab a beer and talk about how a simple difference in opinions doesn't make two people enemies, even in a comments section Smile Appreciate the conversation Snowsed341, thanks for sharing your views on your bike!
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 @yoondaman: do a frame only and be done with it.. Im in it for just over 5k and she's a ripper... Utalizing other parts and scouring the online deals is the way to go!
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 @ryanm189: Awesome comment, and I totally agree!! I splurged and got myself a 130 frame set.. Was it overpriced? Perhaps.. But affording a bike like this isn't some unattainable aspect if you truly want one. I'm a middle class tradesmen... Its more about priorities than bank roll in most cases..

Just make concessions... Ie.. No cable, don't eat out as much, try not to have a car payment, and most of all... Stay away from Dem God damn gold diggers! or women that want to be stay at home moms for the rest of their lives...

That alone will create the illusion of a far bigger bank roll!
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 @mikealive: lots of intelligent persons in late model yetis... They made it work and can afford it so they can't be that dumb... Not everyone wants to be on the value side of things when it comes to their pursuits and passion for their hobby...

I know I sure as fark don't!
  • + 2
 @Snowsed341: one of the smarter comments I see... Good on ya.. I did the same.. Except I just went frame only made some swaps from my fuel ex and made online purchases on the best deals I could find for components.. Mixed and matched Eagle gx, xo1 and XX1.. Sold the fuel ex frame and that offset cost even further... I don't even the sting now..

Cutting back on luxeries is a huge help as well.. I don't even have cable, nor do I miss it. It's all the little things u can do for sure.
  • - 1
 @mikealive: Don't be a dumbass. I gave back exactly what was given and then followed up with JK which means JUST KIDDING.
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 @mikealive: So to non riders, you are already reckless with money spending what you spend on bikes. And from your perspective, anyone that spends more than you is reckless. A lot of judgement going on and a phrase about 'those in glass houses' comes to mind.

Your experiences might differ, but when I bought my Yeti 5.5 I had never heard of 'Yeti Tribe' and whatever mystique you guys are talking about. That would never be a determining factor for me. I'd buy a Huffy if I thought it was truly superior.

I bought my new 5.5 frame because outdoorgearlab had a very thorough review of several bikes in this category and the 5.5 was fastest, both up and down, timed with many different riders. I now know it's because it was the only 29er in that test nearly 3 years ago, but at the time I deduced that it was just the fastest bike. And it did indeed instantly have me riding considerably faster. My Yeti was a great investment for me personally because my enjoyment of riding increased a lot because I was able to truly participate with the experienced riders for the first time.

Also I paid $2500 shipped for that frame, rode it for 2.5 years, and sold it in 1 day for $1700 local cash pickup last month. I find $27/ month of ownership highly affordable personally, but your experience may differ.

~ take care
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 @SunsPSD: I find it humorous that the people most butthurt by my simple opinion has been Yeti owners. Speaks volumes.

If you want to have an opinion that differs from me, I ain't mad at you. But for f*cks sake mate, please don't put words in my mouth. I have been what should be *more than sufficiently clear* that my issue is with Yeti, for my own reasons, not "someone who spends more money than I do on bikes". I'm not paid to teach reading comprehension, or to pacify your ego. Didn't bother to read whatever the rest of your comment was about, can't be arsed to continue a conversation with you. Peace out.
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 @bohns1: Awesome. Props!
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 @mikealive: well said, I was thinking of the lottery loaner bike just the other day, that's a real way to add value.
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 @mikealive: Well said. I don't care what others do with their money either. You can't take it with you, so spend it on what makes you happy. Most people who don't bike can't believe what we pay for bikes. But then again, many don't do any activities at all and are totally out of shape. I'm no spring chicken, but biking of all sorts keeps me outdoors year round having some great fun and have amassed so really good friends with the same interests. I just bought a Santa Cruz Bronson full carbon frame and it wasn't cheap either. I'm at a stage in life that I can afford it, not that I'm rich! I love all forms of biking and buy what I want to please me not my neighbour or other riders. The only ribbing I got from my riding buddies was the colour. None of them comment on how much I spend and vice versa. We have a great time riding together, working on trails and drinking beer afterwards! If sitting in front of the tv on your Lazy Boy is your thing, or four wheeling, etc, I don't give a rat's a$$, do what pleases you. Life is short!
  • + 25
 When you can afford a bike that has color matched saddle rails you know you have won.
  • + 3
 Honestly at this price i should be able to pick any goddamn color for the frame i want a la orbea!
  • + 19
 I don't understand why everyone bashes Yeti for their prices. Yeah $5200 is a lot but its on par with every major company minus direct to consumer models. Firedbird is $5k plus, Ripmo is same ballpark, Evil Wreckoning, Trek Slash, Stumpy, Hightower etc. Just because Yeti doesn't make a version with crappy suspension doesn't mean they are all only for dentists. Yeah the frame only is a couple hundred bucks more, but who actually buys a full carbon bike based on it being a couple hundred bucks cheaper. Just my 2 cents.
  • + 3
 People don’t come on Pinkbike to actually know about bikes, just pricing. Sad really..
  • + 13
 When the field tests are done, someone should take all of the "climbing" section reviews, black out the bike names, and have a multiple choice contest to insert the correct bike into the correct review. They all sound the same. "You'd think a bike like this would be terrible at climbing, but it was impressive! Stuck to the ground, made the techy uphills easier!"
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 I mean, this one specifically says it struggles in technical climbing but pedals well and excels on transfer stages and fire-road climbs. That's very different from how the Remedy or Process climb...
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 Gotta disagree with you on that one. They do all climb acceptably well, but they're all different. I do like your idea, though haha
  • + 3
 In the 90s I worked in record distribution, every Friday I had to write a release sheet to fax out, my mind went numb trying to think of describing yet another tune that sounded like the last one. But there were normally upwards of 30 releases a week.
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 @mikelevy: I also don't feel like I can tell anything about the climbing from these reviews. In person I know I had a very different reaction trying a wreckoning and a ripmo and I'd like to hear that difference explained, then maybe I understand more about the bikes I haven't tried. Maybe ultimately its just "understand the leverage curves" but I think smart pro reviewers could do better than "acceptable."
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 @mikelevy: Funny, I think both the SB150 climbs much better than the 5.5 especially on technical, rocky, and loose climbs.
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 $1700 more than the Trek Remedy. Damn. I guess the extra money is to pay for the warranty rear ends? #flexiflier
  • + 3
 No its obviously the frame colours....Same as a dentists chair.
  • + 5
 Owned two yetis back to back. Riding hard at 210lbs no swingarm failed despite cracking a top tube. All bikes break. All of them.
  • - 1
 Well Trek no longer provides a lifetime warranty and Yeti still does. So in a sense, you are right. Also Trek is a mainstream brand. Yeti is to Trek what Maybach is to Mercedes.
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 @f00bar: Except Yeti isn't owned by Trek and they aren't an order of magnitude more expensive.
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 @f00bar: I like the analogy, but I’d say Trek is more like a Toyota. Dependable, extremely common on the “roadways,” and not real exciting.

I drive a Toyota btw and ride a Pivot. My previous bike was a Trek.
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 @Golden-G: Damn straight they do. Funny how much different the internet world is.
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 @Levelheadsteve: more like Volkswagen.
They charge a little extra for the brand-name.
  • + 0
 I am curious how is it $1700 more? Are you looking at the base model that is an AL vs Carbon and completely different components or are you saying that a RS RT3 is the same as an X2 and Bontrager is the same as Fox high end components? You gotta have the same components to make a claim like that..
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 I wouldn't touch bontrager carbon with a 10' pole. My XC race team is mostly guys on bontrager carbon wheels. I kid you not that we've had about a 75% failure rate on the wheels. A few frame warranties, but the wheels are a joke.
  • + 1
 @gooutsidetoday: personally I wouldn't run carbon wheels on any bike if it was my own money.

@thelenjake: just a comment based on the bikes pb choose (given?) to review. A custom for Trek shock might cost more than a we promise this version doesn't explode X2 for all I know. If not, carbon wheelset isn't cheap.
  • + 11
 2020 Yeti color's?
Cavity Cream
Red Root Canal
Gingivitis Green
Purple Plaque
Bleeding Gums Blue (replacement for the turquoise)
Oh the Pain Orange
Bridge Work Brown
  • + 9
 Hate on the price all you want, but there's a reason why they are rated so highly by so many reviewers. There's not some conspiracy where everyone is secretly being paid to write positive reviews, the bikes just simply ride better than the majority of the competition. Yes, there are obviously other bikes that are a WAY better value, and the performance edge of the Yeti doesn't justify the price. But there will always be people out there willing to spend that kind of money on a bike, even if you aren't or you think its dumb.
  • + 5
 I agree, you want the best, you pay for it.
  • + 12
 Dude yetis aren't ant better than most bikes
  • - 13
flag gooutsidetoday (Dec 6, 2018 at 12:57) (Below Threshold)
 @Riwajc: So far I'd say this set of reviewers are favoring it over the competition, no? But it's PB, I doubt these guys know what's a good bike and what's not.
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 @gooutsidetoday, care to explain why we wouldn't know what a good bike is and what's not? I'm genuinely curious.
  • + 5
 @mikekazimer: I think he/she/xe was being sarcastic. I could be wrong.
  • - 1
 @Riwajc: if your a racer There is not a better bike. . . . . Period!
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 @mikekazimer: Mr Kazimer, that comment was meant with all the sarcasm in the world. I assumed it would be evident!
  • + 5
 @gooutsidetoday, oops, time to get my sarcasm-o-meter recalibrated again. Sorry!
  • + 1
 @Riwajc: I beg to differ.
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 @mikekazimer: I'm so ashamed.
  • + 1
 @Golden-G: yes because somehow they're the only company with the knowhow to make a bike that's better than the rest.
  • + 1
 @Riwajc: oh, But they are tho!
  • + 1
 @brianpark: maybe PB could lead the way in developing a standardised sarcasm punctuation form.
  • + 8
 Next reviews should have some data to back up “feelings” If it feels way faster on the downs, we should have comparable descent times for each bike.. Same as climb times.. Maybe next time each reviewer does a loop with timing equipment to get some numbers behind some of the feeling statements..
  • + 29
 We did use timing equipment but the weather really fucked us and it ended up being too inconsistent to include.
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 @mikelevy: Different days/weather/level of hangover totally get that! Love what you guys are doing, I just like numbers...
  • + 5
 Way too many variables to consider to do timed tests, right down to the riders' energy levels on each run. You can push one bike faster through a tight windy section and another bike faster through chunk. Trail type could tip the scales toward one bike over another. In the end it all comes down to feel.
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 @mikelevy: go sell that to Mark Wallace...
  • + 2
 What you're describing is something like Vital's long travel 29er shootout, which was bitchin'. There's room for both. I absolutely want to hear what these guys thought/felt about each bike. I demoed a bunch of bikes this year and the two that were the most fun to ride are the two on my hit list for next bike. They're fast enough. And Vital's findings showed that times were insanely close.

Here, I'll save you some time. If your slickwilly is squirming to race with the endurobros next year then just get the sb150 and silence the masses by slapping a custom "Slick Willy's Orthodontics" sticker across the top tube. You're welcome.
  • + 2
 @jaydawg69:

See! jaydawg gets it!
  • + 13
 Timing in mountain biking yeah right. I am pretty sure all testers are decent riders but I doubt if to a point where they can deliver consistent lap times. One dab, one ride off the line and that 2-3 secs. One beer more the day before. MTB Science is a silly concept. Really silly.
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 @WAKIdesigns: just because it's broscience doesn't mean it wouldn't be fun to mess around with, though.
  • + 1
 @jaydawg69: I didn't say it wouldn't be interesting to try.
  • + 1
 @mikelevy: aww i feel so bad for you! Smile
  • + 6
 "something a little different is going on with the back end".....I think the word you are looking for is fleexxxx. One of the Mike's needs to gain 50lbs to give these things a true test of metal. I vote for doughnut boy Levy.
  • + 10
 I'll do it but only because it's for a good cause.
  • + 5
 One tester definitely needs to be a 200lb bulldozer with the line-picking ability of a blind yak on meth.
  • + 2
 @mikelevy: or i guess i could lose weight...u first!
  • + 2
 @mrtoodles: im 230 but fit the rest of your criteria Smile mike i have tons of free time and ill pay for the plane ticket!
  • + 1
 @mrtoodles: I second that! I weigh 195 and I occasionally “get off line”..... occasionally... not often... promise.
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 @mrtoodles: maybe next year I'll test some bikes instead of just cat-herding.
  • + 2
 Would definitely like to hear a heavier rider's opinion on these bikes too. There doesn't ever seem to be that many reviews done by folks over the 200lb mark. Maybe that's for good reason? I should lose some weight...
  • + 1
 Or someone like Richie Rude should test it.. oh wait..
  • + 6
 Yeti has always been very proud of their bikes and the price reflects this. I haven't ridden this or any of this years SB's (100/30/150), but the 6 and 5.5 from last year did not blow me away for their costs. Conversely, you can purchase a Transition Sentinel carbon XO1 kit for $2500 less with a very similar (if not burlier) spec with a 0.5 lb difference and nearly the same geo.
  • + 5
 Went from a nice SB6 to a Sentinel. Would never want a Yeti again, to be honest. Never could get the rear end to feel right and my god was it noisy!
  • + 5
 I'm a little disturbed at all the bad advice PB keeps giving out. Having Levy leave the room after expelling his fecal wind is the equivalent to saying "Only I can enjoy this putrid aroma, please leave." The gas had already passed through the pores of his clothing. The only choice of action would be complete evacuation and condemnation of said premises.
  • + 3
 Should have been a scratch and sniff review?
  • + 7
 Anytime there is a Yeti Review i grab my popcorn and head straight for the comments.

FYI, I own a SB5 and I am not a doctor. :0)
  • + 1
 At least you didn’t say dentist...
  • + 5
 Yetis used to be beautiful, full of curves, flowy bikes. This is an abomination with a botched straight downtube (I guess we have Trek to thank for that?) with space added behind the headset to avoid the use of a knock-block, and also look at all that space ahead of the BB. Ugliest bike of all the reviews so far.

It may well plow through all the things like nothing else, and of course if you show up in one you'll get all the girls. But, man it's ugly!
  • + 7
 Gotta say out of the four, if i'm going to be realistic i'd go with the Trek everything considered
  • + 12
 We'll have a wrap-up article soon where all the guys pick the one bike they'd have in their garage. Turns out I'm the same as you.
  • + 4
 This is a nice bicycle with a really solid review behind it. Thanks for clarifying that it's climbing strengths are more for transfer stages then maybe a typical rider's rough trail ride. The SB150 does qualify as Enduro AF imo. RR wins Enduro races on the thing, it descends great, etc... Sounds like it's Enduro to me. I hopped off my Foxy 29 yesterday and pedaled an SB130 and that thing felt more 'Enduro' than my own SB5.5.
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 I can’t believe the amount of people whinging about the price, it’s a top of the line bike from a boutique brand it’s gunna be expensive. Get over it. it the same for every Santa Cruz review as well as well. For those comparing the prices of these bikes to a motocross bike you do realise that if you were to buy a new new crf450 from Honda then deck it out the same as rockzens bike you’d be looking a six figures.
  • + 4
 Would you look at those fancy pinkbike helmets. That takes kook to a new level. I'm surprised they didn't rig up some sort of sliding name plate for all of these test bikes so we could know who's bike it is and their nationality in each picture.
  • + 2
 where's TEAMROBOT with their auto detection visual termination programming?

www.bravenewsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/maxresdefault-3.jpg

MKAZ YETI REVIEW IN PROGRESS:
  • + 4
 What helmet is that? Looks good.
  • + 2
 @DGThree: Looks like the Bell Sixer/4Forty
  • + 3
 @DGThree: It's a Bell Sixer. It fit a lot of us well but it didn't work on my head. I had to have it super tight to keep it from sliding down on my head.
  • + 2
 @DGThree: I bought a Sixer to replace a Super 2 that I cracked in a crash. Though the sizing chart stayed the same as the super, the Medium I bought fit significantly tighter. I returned it and got a Chronicle in medium that fits great. Later tried a Large Sixer on and it felt too big, I had to tighten down on the helmet too much and the overall shell felt too loose. If you are on the edge of the sizing chart for a Sixer like I was you may have trouble. I really wanted the Sixer to work because of how well reviewed it was, especially when it came to pulling sweat away from your forehead but I couldn't find a good fit.
  • + 5
 I would have liked to have seen timed laps on each bike, when they say it doesn’t climb as well or it descends way better, what does that mean on the clock - seconds/minutes?
  • + 10
 Yeah we discussed timed laps but were having some Strava issues. Next year we'll be looking at adding some proper timing chips and use some of that data. The challenge is in matching effort for effort for a consistent baseline.
  • + 3
 @brianpark: You could use power and HR data to compare the efforts?
  • + 3
 For sure, I can see why some readers would want that. The weather really screwed us over with the timing - it just wouldn't have been fair. Also, my concern is that people only look at the time (or rating, etc) to judge the bike. But yes, we'll include some timing in the future.
  • + 3
 @brianpark: Also, when talking about climbing ability, gear ratio could be discussed so you could get a comparison of which bike climbed easier or harder.
  • + 3
 @mikelevy: With timed laps, in order to make it a fair test, you have to be really careful managing all the variables to make it as consistent as possible. Managing fatigue in your legs, how well you know the tracks and the trail conditions. Are you going to ride with the tires the bike is specced with or use control tires? Are you going to repeat the runs and take the best one - or average the 3? Definitely a big undertaking. Would be good if you got somebody external to help you design a fair test protocol and then explain how you've done it.
  • + 2
 @tom666: For sure, which is why I wasn't deadset for doing it seriously for this first Field Test. If one bike didn't get a fair crack, for whatever reason, it wouldn't be fair. And I think a lot of us just look at the number/rating, so it's doubly important to nail it.
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 @mikelevy: I think to give it some validity you would have to do some control testing - ride you own bike for the first few laps of the day, get used to the trail and trail conditions and set some consistent times, ideally getting each lap within a second or two of each other. Then when you change bike try and use the same tires so that the main difference is going to be the $8000 bike and not the $100 tires. I think if you were setting consistent times before and have kept the tires the same the difference should be mostly the bike.
  • + 4
 So what was the rationale behind not putting this in your Enduro AF category with the Pivot Firebird 29? I guess it does have a little less travel in the back, but it seems this is clearly that type of machine.

Also, I thought you all were a little more generous with the climbing reviews for this bike back when it appeared in September, but I could be mistaken.

Anyway, coming out of the box, just looking at the geometry numbers, I've always thought this bike would be a little too much for me. Interested in seeing a comparison to the Sb 130.
  • + 7
 Yep, we always struggle with categorizing bikes. I'd maybe adjust the categories in hindsight, but we really wanted to have perspective on the Bronson vs SB150.

On one hand it seems crazy to have it in the same category as the Stumpjumper, but when you go Stumpjumper>Remedy>Process>Bronson>SB150 the spectrum kind of makes sense.
  • + 3
 @brianpark: Yeah, I understand. It's hard sometimes, but you've got to come down with a decision and go with it. I think these videos have been great. I appreciate the work you guys did here.
  • + 0
 @brianpark: seems like the Bronson stands little chance with their love for a 29"Er rubbing around their butts.
  • + 3
 @pigman65: you might be surprised.
  • + 1
 @brianpark: i hope so,i have one on order lol
  • + 2
 @pigman65: I would say the Bronson got the best review of all so far. If I recall, the only real negative was that it waan't a 29er.
  • + 1
 @brianpark: Hey Brian, what ever happened to the PB review of the new Mach 6? There was a video, and then... nothing?
  • + 6
 $8600 and comes with M1900 wheelset? huh? Guess well call it 10Gs "out the door"
  • + 13
 Agreed. The Bronson, which Santa Cruz is also considered a high end boutique brand, was $8200 with SC Carbon Wheels with a lifetime warranty. The value on Yeti's is horrendous.
  • + 2
 XM1501, no?
  • + 2
 The photos show it with the way fancier 1501. Do I have to read the whole article then? haha
  • + 0
 @JesseE: Good catch, I just looked it up, at least in the US, the $8599 X01 Race build comes with the DT Swiss XM1501, not the M1900 that their test bike came with.
  • + 4
 @Beez177, it comes with the XM1501 wheelset - the article's been updated.
  • + 2
 The margin on this bike must be obscene....well done Yeti...marketing sells.
  • + 3
 @Soilsledding: maybe for the company, not for the dealers though.
  • + 1
 @Appajack: haha the company is designed to maximize profits regardless of how the sale gets done. Trek squeezed their dealers, Yeti, etc.

Why do you think the industry guys drive really really nice vans...because they generate a ton of revenue with their designs.
  • + 1
 @Soilsledding: The amount of delicious swag in the industry had always been an enigma. On one hand, that gang of dedicated bike zealots doesn't make shit for income and deserves the nice perks. On the other hand, WE are the ones paying for it and I'd sometimes rather see a bit more frugality.
  • + 1
 @Soilsledding: it’s crazy how prices have gone sky high and in my opinion being in the industry we have the “big 3 or 5” companies to thank for that, sponsorship of huge road teams isn’t cheap ya know! Their motto was “price it for what the market will bare”. Used to be “boutique brands were way out of line compared to the big guys and for awhile now you could buy a Alloy Santa Cruz for about the same price as an alloy framed Specialized with comparable components of course. What bike is the consumer going to pick? Usually the Santa Cruz. Now all the big guys did was make the small guys more relative...a big part of why all the “ boutique brands have become so popular is because you can buy one for a reasonably close price to a generic brand. Now all the big guys are sucking wind because their mountain bike sales have dropped off the charts compared to the little guys, Their greed and corporate “professionalism” is biting them in the ass and it’s awesome to watch.
  • + 1
 @tgent: I'd be pissed if I paid that much for cheap wheels! haha. Oh bike prices...
  • + 5
 I like how a $9500 Stumpy is not considered expensive. How the price of the Yeti is listed as a con when the Stumpy's price is not listed as a con. Weird.
  • + 2
 Yeah and with Spec's volume and in-house branded stuff you'd think you could get a better deal on their bikes. Not really the case.
  • + 1
 well if it makes you feel better the vast majority of ppl can't afford either 9000 USD is close to 12000 CAD
  • + 3
 I'm still riding a 2016 SB6. I can wheelie and manual but it's the hardest bike to lift the front end of any mtb I've tried. Very very planted bike. I'm a little skeptical of the SB150 being "also a bike that's easy to play around on, whether that's by manualing out of a corner, or airing into a minefield of roots and rocks just to see what will happen." Although, I did notice yeti shortened the chainstays by about 9mm. Still, this is a heavy ass bike with a lot of travel. If you want to manual out of corners and pop off lips on the side of the trail, get a Pivot.
  • + 2
 Or a SB130. It can handle it. I know.
  • + 2
 Short chainstays are the most important if manuals or hopping on the back wheel is what you are after...But they are not great for anything else.
  • + 1
 I found precisely the same difficulty trying to get the front wheel up when I got my SB6. Feels harder to place the rear wheel under me and get it to the balance point, though certainly goes the fastest in a straight line out of any bike I've owned. I was coming from a 140 mm Canyon Spectral, and the disparity was even more pronounced on mate's Process 153.
  • + 3
 Funny how many comments about YTs. I know lots of people can’t believe how expensive Yetis are, but the worksmanship of the frame is amazing! I own both a SB6 and a YT CAPRA and the yeti pedals better, eats up gnar better, and is more confidence expiring; however it likes to stay on the ground. The yt Capra is way more playful... and is hence my parkbike.
Also, I’m not a dentist.
  • + 3
 @mikekazimer @mikelevy

I'm going to risk getting called a Dentist, and go against the grain of the comment section, by asking a serious question.

I own an SB6, it's boost, has 170mm front and 153mm rear. I love the bike, it climbs fine and it's descending ability far exceeds my own. I'm also wheelsize agnostic. Given the cost involved, as none of my existing parts would fit the new frame, is it really a worthwhile upgrade? Is is that much better than an SB6?
  • + 11
 Well, the SB150 does hold a water bottle in the correct spot...
  • + 2
 Yes because its new and cost a lot !

IMO the only reason to upgrade would be to access the new "modern" geo.

I'm not a huge fan of the new modern geo, but you might be.
  • + 1
 @mikekazimer: I think I hear what you are saying...
  • + 0
 @mikekazimer: Boom, roasted.
  • + 5
 @mikekazimer: I'll be his waterboy and chase him around with a bottle if he'll pay me the price difference between his used SB6 and a new SB150
  • + 3
 There can be absolutely no excuse for anyone's descending with a 64.5 degree, 29", and 170mm combo. The back half could be a Fred Flintstone log and you're good until the climbs.
  • + 2
 I just spent 10k on a new bike and I love it but I'll bet 95% of posters here can out ride me. I bought it because I can. In many things in life you can afford things after you hit your physical peak. In one way you can say it's not fair that at 25 you can take full advantage of a 10k bike but can only afford a 3k bike, I get it.

I also work at a high end dealership that sells sports cars that are not driven the way they are supposed to by rich over the hill men/women that can afford dream cars the kids with the modded cars that are better drivers can't.

I probably can come up with more comparisons but it comes down to expensive stuff is expensive. And people who can afford this bike most likely will not use it as designed and actually hurting themselves because they probably need a better climbing bike. This is a enduro bike period, not a trail bike. And in the future we most likely can watch tons of videos of people riding their sb150's in Florida on youtube.
  • + 4
 Please tell us if the tested bikes were noisy or silent. That is an underrated factor which rearly gets enough attention in a review.
  • + 4
 Just watched the bottom out part a bunch of times and noticed that the switch infinity thinger hardly moved. Like 20% of it's available travel? I wonder why!
  • + 4
 You can see exactly what it's doing in this video from a few years ago: www.pinkbike.com/video/371459. It doesn't use the whole length of the rails.
  • + 0
 @mikekazimer: Thanks for pointing that out, I re-watched this video and you can see it move up and down through it's travel. I always thought it would have moved more.
  • + 2
 @mikekazimer: it is amazing that changing that pivot point just a few mm’s has so much affect!
  • + 2
 There's so much resentment towards pricey bikes as if there are no good options our there for those on a budget. Your 2012 self would lose their mind over the bikes you can get today for under 5k. Fancy bikes are fancy, cheaper bikes are still effing rad.
  • + 1
 Having motocrossed a lot, the MX comparison is pretty silly. While dirt bikes have engines, they are not built to nearly the tolerances and precision that bicycles are. I use to import running gasoline pocket bikes from China nearly 20 years ago and I paid $90 each for them at the port. My supplier was buying them for $50, and whoever made them was profitably selling a running motorcycle for $50! Sure they were POS's but just having a running engine does not make them expensive.

But very importantly, you can't go ride a dirt bike at the MX track without dropping a cool $100 which is really on the low end. Between fuel for the truck and the bike, wearables, depreciation, and so on, it's expensive. It's also very time consuming and you really don't get much ride time compared to the hours spent getting the MX bike ready and driving.

Also if you have MXed for long enough, you will know at least 1 person that ends up in a wheelchair over it. I still have a nice dirt bike, but am completely over that sport.

You can let the dirt bike comparisons go. If you want a dirt bike, go buy one. But this is a different sport, not an inexpensive version of dirt biking.
  • + 1
 Let's review - if you have the money and the inclination to race Enduro - all you have to do is switch the tires depending on where your racing.............. I would say that Yeti has nailed it other than the price. I've been riding for a very long time and it seems like the slow creep of bike prices we were previously used to has now turned into a rapid acceleration. You are paying 6000 Canadian for a Yeti with the lower spec carbon and a GX Drive Train. It just seems to be too much.............
  • + 1
 So, uh..... what's with the sciency background graphic at the beginning? Specifically the chemical formula. C2H5NH2. That's ethylamine..... @mikelevy - you crazy kids mixing up some Special K? Would make the bike reviews..... interesting. Smile
  • + 2
 When all of the field tests are done I want to see the slow mo huck to flat landing videos for each bike put on the same page for comparison. Definitely interesting to see where certain frames and forks flex.
  • + 1
 If you didn't have any tire rub with a 2.4 DHRII you were only riding it in the parking lot... I spent 3 weeks in whistler on one and it would have rubbed through the paint if I didn't constantly replace the protective racer tape every 3 or 4 days. Forget a 2.5... a DHF in that size barely even spins in the stand. Garbage.
  • + 3
 There's plenty of room for a 2.4" DHRII, and there's also plenty of mud out here: www.pinkbike.com/photo/16646799.
  • + 0
 @mikekazimer: you should probably read the full story of this (the above?) user, as your statement certainly would not be true for the SB150 that he was riding. User name on this form is streetdoctor.
forums.mtbr.com/yeti/sb130-sb150-issues-1089983.html#post_13840522
  • + 0
 @mikekazimer: a 2.4 definitely rubs. I rode one for 475 miles according to strava. I returned it because even a 2.3 aggressor rubs. When the back end flexes as much as it does you need a lot of clearance. That's with all linkage bolts torqued to spec and a 32h real wheel with way too much tension (thanks Yeti) Get to the Ransom already!

After 1 ride with a 2.4 DHRII... literally 2 miles of downhill.

forums.mtbr.com/attachments/yeti/1221098d1539824061t-sb130-sb150-issues-wqwsw4u7qzmfpowt66yypg.jpg

That photo was after all of their "fixes" and them replacing the rubber chain guard. The first one was half torn off from rub.

I'm on a Scott Ransom now and it's better in every aspect and it actually fits a 2.5 on the back.

The 150 has 0.147" clearance with a 2.5 DHF on the back. More photos of that in that thread on MTBR. I'm not a hack, I'm just a local Enduro guy trying to buy a good bike for local conditions and Yeti is selling pure BS with the 150.
  • + 2
 @catweasel: Yep, that's me. Also, dealing with Yeti was a nightmare. Between the flexy back end and tire rub, the switch infinity that got replaced because supposedly the bushings were "bad", and then the DU bushings being the wrong size so the front shock mount audibly knocked and had lateral play which then lead to the X2 having cavitation (and yeti refusing to help). I'll never deal with Yeti again and they're only fifteen minutes from my house.
  • + 4
 @Frontrange, I'm aware of the issues you experienced, but all that I can say is that those aren't present on the frame we have in for review. But don't worry, we've got a Ransom Field Test on the way too.
  • + 3
 @Frontrange: I’ve experienced the same issues. Had a 2.5 high roller on mine from the shop and it was rubbing right out of the gate. I have also had the same bushing problems that many speak of. It’s an awesome bike, but these are real issues. I just wish it could be perfect in every way!!
  • + 1
 @bcar08: agreed, if Yeti customer service handled it better I probably would have kept it. I'm glad it brought me to the Scott Ransom though!
  • + 4
 @mikekazimer Can we get a shot of the huck that's being used for the 'huck to flat' photos?
  • + 3
 They posted it yesterday. If you look at the photo where they are jumping the mini, they were just using that ramp without the mini in place for the test.
  • + 2
 Hmmm....$9300 for a Stumpjumper,(and the privilege of owning a Huffy, errr, uhhh, Specialized) or $8950 for the Yeti..
Shouldn't be a hard decision for anyone with common sense
  • + 1
 Not really in the market now, I have an Ibis HD3 still working fine -just that 29ers mid travel bikes piqued my interest and I was looking around- 2018/19 bikes are hella expensive in general! Take Ibis for example, can’t check out with mid specs for under 6-7K on a Ripmo. Beside Eagle drivetrain prices being ungodly, anyone notice frame prices have gone up as well- I get carbon’s a wonder material but over $3K for frameset? Wondering if much of these price increases were due to the tariff wars or is the industry just naturally headed in this direction anyway- pretty soon we all need to take out an auto loan to get our weekend fix. ????
  • + 1
 Am I the only one who has concerns about the junction of the BB and downtube getting destroyed? It literally sticks out about 4 inches further than the front chainring!? Sick bike, and Im sure it performs amazing- but no freakin thanks!
  • + 5
 Better get the popcorn in readiness for all the dentist bikes jokes.
  • + 4
 I'm pretty sure my dentist just ordered one!!!
  • + 13
 I was just thinking how much Yeti Turquoise reminds me of toothpaste
  • + 2
 @fmogan77: Thanx, no thanx. I'll keep my Evil. Your dentist's result may differ.
@sjflow: "Toothpaste blue" should be Yeti's halo build colorway. That's actually funny.
  • + 2
 My dentist hates popcorn. Kernels and such.
  • + 3
 Does it come with broken chainstays out of the box, or do you have to pay an extra $2K for the XX1 BCS build?
  • + 4
 COLOR IS SO SICK FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN IT
  • + 4
 I FEEL THE SAME BUT I STILL LIKE IT
  • + 0
 I saw a guy talking about the SB150 on MTBR. He was a Pro CAT1 racer that definitely gets around the country riding a lot. Bought the bike, said it was the best bike he's ever ridden...but he returned it after a month or two. He had a bunch of feedback around rear tire carnage and pics from a 2.4 DHR tire rubbing the heck out of it. Said it was fine in the parking lot, but when he was really pushing it on DH stuff, that damn flexy backend (flawed) ended up flexing into the tire and damaging the stays. He complained about the flex itself as well. Pics and videos he put up too. Not cool for an enduro bike ridden by a guy not sponsored by Yeti and having access to free Rear Triangles. There is no reason this bike should be engineered like this when there are plenty of bikes with similar stay length and no issue. I don't think Yeti is doing anything about it either. That being said, I can't ride like that and I'm sure it'd work fine for me.
  • + 4
 At 4:30 you can see Vital highlight the issue. Why none of this talk PinkBike? Seems and overly flexy backend and limited tire clearance for a 2.4 (despite Yeti saying it supports a 2.5) is kind of BS.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFIunD9uYjg
  • + 3
 @Svinyard: agreed that vid was crazy. I cant do that with my enduro!
  • + 6
 @Svinyard, I mention that it's not the stiffest frame in the article, and I've found there's plenty of clearance for a 2.4" DHR II (www.pinkbike.com/photo/16646799).
  • + 0
 @mikekazimer: Yeah but clearance is only good if the triangle isn't a noodle. The review makes the flexy backend sound like an advantage not a liability. I think a bit more due diligence is in order being that often this isn't something a guy might notice in a demo at first or look for. Much like that racer. He went through the wringer with Yeti/Their owner to no avail. Thankfully the shop honored the issue and let him return it. The rest of us may not have that luxury upon purchase. That's at least what I would hope for in a review.
  • + 2
 @Svinyard, if I run into any issues with the frame they'll certainly be mentioned, but like I said I'm not experiencing any rub with a 2.4" tire, even after lots of muddy rides and plenty of hard cornering.
  • + 1
 Please write on next reviews the actual and effective seat angle. The stumpjumper has a 66 ultra slack seat angle, innthe review says 74 or something, readers must know the difference. Thanks.
  • + 3
 Some companies are showing sagged and unsagged numbers in their geo charts now. Would love to see that across the board.
  • + 1
 I'd like to see that too. It seems like few mention how bad a slack STA can be for a bike that isn't a pure DH bike. I think the industry has figured out well enough that steep-ish STA's are "correct". Not sure why some of these newer bikes have old school geo. That stumpy is basically a hightower LT clone for 2019 iirc. the Evo looks legit.
  • + 1
 Forget sagged and unsagged,
Bike brands cheat. Period. They always claim en the chart the effective seat antle, wifh is of course irrelevant. They should claim the actual (real) seat angle.
Evil bikes are the king of cheating in this aspect, they have the most slacks seat anglesmin the industry (65) but the geo chart says 76?? Thats a f*cking joke.
  • + 3
 @tetopluz the biggest struggle is the discrepancy between where brands measure effective STA. Some do it at stack height, some do it at an arbitrary point they think you should have your saddle, etc. And yeah, slack actual STA can mess things up quickly if you're outside of the intended sizing.
  • + 4
 @brianpark: at 6-4 slack STA's are a straight up flaw in XL size. SC HightowerLT is on auto-wheeling, same with Evil stuff (maybe offering fixed it). New stumpy. Its egregious to ride any hills. I'd like to see two STA figures listed. the first is STA at stack, and another at 150mm further up. Right now its a guess to often.
  • + 2
 This is a key reason I think to demo a bike because they are all over the place. I have noticed that bikes with shorter chainstays tend to have more slack actual seattube angles and this often confounds how I interpret their climbing ability (often do pretty well in technical climbs but feel wobbly up front on smoother/steeper climbs).

Something I never hear people complain about but is readily perceptible to me is that every bike I ride with a slack actual seat tube angle feels like it needs a comparatively longer travel dropper post. This makes a lot of sense since the actual vertical drop of the post is shorter on those bikes with a slack seat tube angle.

We measured the medium effective seat tube angles on the 2018 Devinci Troy and Spartan models for a size medium with about 220mm-250mm of post extended (troy vs. spartan respectively) and they were both around the claimed 74-75 degrees. The actual STA was considerably less however
  • + 2
 Perhaps they could make a giant protractor and hold up to the bike to get the right number, or take the above side-on photo and use a little protractor. Wink
  • + 3
 OK, on a serious note, why don't companies just list a STA with an inseam length for each size frame? Take the average inseam of the average height rider for each frame size. An inch or two up or down won't make a big difference ans you can always slide the seat forward or back. Static STA numbers don't make sense when bikes range from sm to xl.
  • + 1
 @bcmrider: an inch makes a significant difference depending on actual seat angle.
  • + 2
 @spaceofades: It would be very easy to measure STA effective at multiple points from seatpost slammed to minimum insertion for a 150mm post and then plot the data out. They spend months riding a bike and taking pictures. It would only take about 5 minutes to measure in 25mm increments.
  • + 1
 @tetopluz: What is the "Real Seat Angle" on a modern MTB?

Where is it measured from? Is it the angle of seat post insertion portion of the seat tube or is it the angle from the crank to the top of the seat post at normal insertion length. Say 160mm based on a 150mm dropper post from the collar allowing 10mm for the dropper post insertion tube collar.

For consistency, one needs reference points that can be applied to all bikes for comparison purposes.
  • + 2
 @bcmrider: yard stick and a phone app is what I do (after checking accuracy of the app).
  • + 1
 @yzedf: I have these things. How do you do it?
  • + 2
 @Svinyard: You download an angle finder app. You hold the edge of a yardstick where it lines up with the center of the BB & the other end of the yardstick, and the same edge of the yardstick should be right at the center of your seatpost at your seating surface height. Place your phone against the yardstick and you will see the EFFECTIVE SEAT TUBE angle.
  • + 3
 That picture of the frame compressed looks like a transformer giving itself a handy.
  • + 0
 These seat angle numbers are so misleading. As it's "Virtual" it is taken from an arbitrary location depending on manufacturer. Every bit the seat is raised higher than that the seat angle it slackens. So this "got to have a steep seat angle" mantra means nothing, if you ride a smaller frame and like your seat higher than normal, it could theoretically be pretty shallow. It all depends on saddle behind bottom bracket, a too forward position without rolling the hips (lowering bars) forward can lead to knee issues.
  • + 3
 Expensive in the cons, yep i agree. The santa cruz you got reviewed is at the same prize too, no cons. Yep right
  • + 3
 The Santa Cruz come with carbon wheels (with a lifetime warranty on those wheels) for a similar price. Both expensive, but the Bronson is arguably a better value.
  • + 3
 I love to read the comments!
  • + 4
 completely OVERPRICED!
  • - 5
flag raditude (Dec 6, 2018 at 11:59) (Below Threshold)
 ah how trump has influenced things.
  • + 4
 @raditude: all the problems in the world existed before Trump.
  • + 3
 @Beez177: except Trump. And his kids.
  • + 1
 1 con for price and one for tires - not bad as 2 out of three have no bearing on the actual frame quality. It is damn pricy, though..
  • + 0
 Yetis break. My riding buddy went through 3 front triangles last season on his SBDC 5.5. Sure they replaced them. But here in vermont we get 5-6 months or riding. At 2 weeks each. He missed a good part of the year.
  • + 1
 This bike has a problem with rear triangle as well.
  • + 0
 I bumped into two dentists outside of riding one day, they both rode MTBs. I quickly kind of laughed after finding that out and asked "ok, who rides a Yeti!?". Hands were raised lol.
  • + 1
 And some fast Enduro racers too. Dentists are highly educated!
  • + 3
 @MX298: indeed, they are the wrong profession to pick on. Getting a doctorate in a medical field is a massive sacrifice of youthful years. The joke does seem to work tho unfortunately lol
  • + 1
 @mikelevy, serious question: what type of bike (amt of travel/category) is best on tech climbs? Hardtail/XC/trail? My experience is limited to trail and, uh, super-trail.
  • + 2
 What about Trail Plus?

For real though a mid-travel (~130mm) trail bike with a steep STA and fairly active suspension is a good starting point for tech climbing.
  • + 1
 D'uh: downcountry.
  • + 2
 The SB130 won out for me--more fun, better climber, and still descends incredibly well.
  • + 1
 watch that slow mo at 1:22 over and over again, that front fork looks like it's about to rip off that thing... I'd like to see a dh fork on there, I bet it would be fun...
  • + 2
 I don´t know if you have watched previous vids but it seems to me you haven´t...Every single bike before looked worse than this and all of them had shorter AC forks on.
  • + 1
 Run into quite a few on yeti's around my travels..yet to see anybody actually able to ride one..Nate hills being the exception.but he doesn't pay for them so there you go.
  • + 2
 Overpriced Sentinel knock-off with a press fit bottom bracket and an extra 10mm of travel for marketing "wow."
  • + 1
 Sapp looks slightly distressed all the way through the review, as if he is suffering from some unseen malignant presence, some kind of environmental toxin...
  • - 4
flag Beez177 (Dec 6, 2018 at 13:36) (Below Threshold)
 That dude is a toad.
  • + 5
 @Beez177: You're mean.
  • + 2
 @Beez177: That dude is being subjected to Levy's GI distress. Was a joke.
  • - 1
 This is currently the only bike I could trade my Antidote for. Possibly best mountain bike out there. And this review seems to support that view. Freaking manic. This and E29 Sworks with Öhlins ttx coil. Maybe unno for looks. The rest of the things on the market are meh. Unless Antidote releases a 150-160mm 29er. The pinnacle of mountain bike design.
  • + 1
 Got huck norris keeping your rims safe in that 2nd to last picture? Fully loaded!
  • + 2
 Wow, fancy switch infinity should be called switch 4mm.
  • + 2
 Maybe they spec exo casing to keep the weight on the spec list down
  • + 2
 I'll add that it seems pretty convenient that it's listed at 29.9, double down would tip the scale over 30
  • + 3
 Yup, exactly it. And EXO will be just fine for a lot of people, too.
  • + 1
 @mikelevy: Yep. So far I'm totally happy with the EXOs on my Ripmo, after riding in BC, Utah plus my home trails in CA. They seem to hold up just fine.
  • + 1
 @MtbSince84: Maybe it's just because I'm a fat boy but EXOs are just squirmy. I've not had any major durability issues.
  • + 1
 What I feel is missing from reviews is this : would I buy this bike for the msrp Yes or No
  • + 7
 I can understand why you'd want that, but it's a pretty subjective subject. When I was 22 and had zero money, I took out a loan for a $7,200 Santa Cruz Super 8. It was glorious but also terrible. Now that I'm older and could possibly put together $7,200 to buy a mountain bike, I'd have to think about it.

That amount of money means very different things to me now than it did when I was 22. I have well-off friends who own a used $3,000 mountain bike despite him putting in 150+ days per year, and I have poor friends who own $8,000 bikes.
  • + 2
 I’d put my cap at around 5k bc I feel in most cases the improvements are hardly even incremental after that. However you can still pose the question/answer in a not about price but what’s delivered for the price and does the Reviewer see the value. Obviously we all have our own idea of value but it provides some reasonable good beta @mikelevy:
  • + 1
 @Grmasterd: Yeah but 5k$ isn't going to get you really sick wheels like SC Reserves...which do make a big difference unlike going from Elite to Factory etc.
  • + 1
 @Grmasterd: Totally agree. Its about finding the best bike i can inside that price range. I'm happy to go a year or two old aswell with the buy/sell. If you change the prices here to CAD your looking at 12000 which is three times what i paid for my XT equipped altitude. This said its still cool to see what the full end bikes look and feel like.
  • + 1
 What PSI are you guys running for these tests...bottom out pics are insane.
  • + 3
 Dream bike! I want!!!!
  • + 1
 Glad to watch the video and not be in the room when Levy passed some serious gas.
  • + 3
 Too much Haribo Frown
  • + 1
 At least the dentist, doctors and lawyers sell them cheap and basically unscathed after one season to get the newest model
  • + 1
 I dunno...Dentists have a LOT of free time usually by the time they are making money.
  • + 2
 Cannot believe Bohns hasn’t commented yet lol just kidding buddy
  • + 2
 Honestly, this thing is ugly....I'm sad
  • + 1
 Its only the front triangle. Its weird because the 4.5 and 5.5 lines were just incredible.
  • + 3
 They needed to fit a full size water bottle to placate the PB masses.
  • + 0
 A bike you can "climb all the things on" hahahaha what terrible English I'm sure I'll get a load of down-votes but that's 4 year old speak.
  • + 0
 Somebody has to pay for Chris Conroy’s new mansion in evergreen. Those things don’t build themselves!
  • + 1
 youtu.be/U7VaZpYBQpI

Here in HOT????????????????
Lock and Like !!
  • + 1
 Why are the wheels so big? So awkward...
  • + 1
 remember when carbon frames were $2500? Pepperidge Farms remembers.......
  • + 0
 Does it come with the team yeti spandex! What a joke of a price! I want one just so i can the cool guy in the frontrange!
  • + 1
 Good thing it’s tested to “yeti’s downhill standards”....

Lol
  • + 1
 @mikelevy how is this bike compared to a 2017+ Trek slash?
  • + 1
 Tire pressure in the suspension squish shot is cyclocross perfect.
  • + 1
 Scrolls directly to "huck to flat" photo.... WTF?!
  • + 1
 What about sizing? How tall were the reviewers and what size was tested?
  • + 1
 I personally think it climbs pretty good for a 30lb DH bike
  • + 0
 $3800 for frame only!!! Trump tariff not suppose to kick in till Jan. 1st!! Will be another 25% jump in prices!
  • + 1
 Yeah, I'm about $8598.00 short
  • + 2
 No place for AA's?
  • + 3
 I had a 9v in my bib pocket.
  • + 1
 The quintessential dentist bike!
  • + 1
 @brianpark So is the 130 and the 150 in the same category for this test?
  • + 2
 We tested the 130 alongside some shorter travel trail bikes. Again, categories are annoying but we use them to make the most relevant comparisons we can.
  • + 1
 Full squish starts at 1:24
  • + 1
 I wouldn't kick it out of bed...
  • + 1
 Spot on review of the SB150. Cheers boys!
  • + 1
 Yeti blue. The PT Cruiser of colors.
  • + 1
 copied by all brands now. turquoise is the new black
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 Where is the huck to flat pic???
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 rear triangle snapped in half so they couldn't show it. LOL
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 Second to last pic.
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 Whyte S-150. Just sayin'.
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 Please Santa.
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 No mention of rear tire clearance??
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 Huh? They mention it for sure man. They just don't mention that the flexy rear triangle is bad and not normal and will cause a problem if riding hard on a 2.4 tire. Kind of glossed over that part.
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 @Svinyard, not true, as I explained above. I've had no issues with a 2.4" tire, and the bike's seen plenty of hard rides.
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 Where is the field test of the top spec'd YT Capra???
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 Finally, a review on a bike for the masses!
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 ROFL!

Good one Big Grin
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 Yes, it is expensive....
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 Again Pinkbike with the least informative review of a bike...Man, you guys really need to step up your game
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 If you want to hear an intelligent review made by people who actually know what they are talking about ( also with better videography and overall just a much better production )

youtu.be/jGfOEadF4iY
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 I think everyone knows that PB is PB by now. They aren't going to be harsh on most bikes other than a select few. Especially not headliner Manuf. That would jeopardize the synergy they need to do their business. Being ultra objective isn't going to help their business. Their business depends on them having a good relationship with manufacturers. I enjoy their reviews but yeah, they are often pretty light for some reason. Eitherway, you get the whole picture by reading a lot of different sites. Enduro-mtb seems to be pretty objective. Vital can be at times. Outdoorgearlabs is REALLY deep mostly...but not perfect.
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 @Svinyard: I take the law of averages between all those you've mentioned plus added demos to ultimately make my purchase decisions... But ya, I hear what you're saying.
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 @tuumbaq, this isn't meant to be an full review, as was explained here: www.pinkbike.com/news/video-introducing-the-2018-pinkbike-field-test.html. The Field Tests are closer to an extended first ride, where you can hear our initial opinions about these bikes.

Our long term reviews dive deeper into the details and pick apart how the bike handles, and how the parts held up, in a more comprehensive manner.

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