Pinkbike Poll: Do You Ride At Night?

Sep 30, 2022
by Seb Stott  
The days are getting shorter and the nights longer which means it s the season for night rides. Charge up the lights and get out there.

It's seven in the evening. Belly full, I've just sat down on the sofa and I'm looking forward to watching some TV and going to bed. Then my phone rings. My friend and colleague Tom reminds me that I've agreed to go on a night ride with him and Barney Marsh, a fellow science nerd and journalist at Singletrack, who's visiting Bristol for one night only.

Bugger.

It's a rainy and chilly autumn night and our local trails (Leigh woods) are lethal in the wet. Still, a promise is a promise so I hurriedly get my riding kit on, dig out my half-charged lights, explain to my flatmate what the chuff I was up to and set out into the night.

Needless to say, we had a brilliant time. Bimbling our way down slick rocks and muddy ruts, one behind the other like a string of Christmas tree lights. Probably going half our normal speed. It was a great laugh.

There's something extra exciting about riding at night and an added sense of camaraderie, plus you can often spot wildlife you wouldn't see in the daytime. We finished by rolling into town and getting a kebab. It felt like a night out, but with only good feelings afterwards.

Rage against the night

The thing is, that was five years ago and I have only been on a handful of night rides since. Every time I say, "That was great, let's do it again soon!" But life just seems to get in the way, and the feeling of lethargy in the wet winter evenings is a huge barrier. The thought of washing my muddy bike and kit in the cold and dark afterwards doesn't help either.

What's your take, do you like night riding or hibernating in the winter evenings?

Do you ride at night?



Do you like riding at night?



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233 Comments
  • 108 4
 Choose a light setup and then be a dick about it. It is amazing how good and affordable lights have become.
  • 19 4
 Can you show some example ? All I see is 500$+ setups for proper enduro riding. Mountain biking is so expensive as it is ...
  • 8 1
 @Mouette230: Check out the selection from Blackburn. Lifetime warranty on most items and they’re awesome.
  • 18 0
 @Mouette230: Pretty much any 1000 lumen light that can mount to your helmet would let you get out and do a bit of trail riding at night. You don't need 3500+ lumens for every ride.

I've got an 1800 lumen Lezyne light that can get me down any trail where I ride. Albeit slower than I'd ride them in daylight.
  • 29 0
 @Mouette230: MAGIC SHINE
  • 55 2
 @Mouette230: check out Outbound Lighting. I have an earlier wired version of their trail lights and they’re great lights. $365 USD for the set. Had them for 3 or 4 years now and still impressed every time I head out for a night ride.

www.outboundlighting.com/products/evo-downhill-package-best-bike-light
  • 29 0
 @Mouette230: Niterider Lumina stuff is reasonable and durable as hell.

I run one on my helmet and one on my bars.
  • 12 0
 @mt-outlaw: outbound ftw
Cool folks, those guys.
  • 3 0
 About 15 years ago when LEDS starting becoming more common....so great for night riding. You can spend $50 and get great lights that last for years.
  • 7 7
 @Mouette230 go on amazon and you can buy some $30-40 lights, they work really well. Just do your research and dont buy the ones that look sketchy
  • 2 0
 Not the cheapest, but I once got a Lupine Piko light as a present and because of their support you can keep them forever. If you really do wear out the battery, you can return it for a discount on a replacement, they can repair anything and they've got spares for everything. So in the long run they may be relatively cheap. Pinkbike may only focus on their insanely powerful lights and then realize it is overkill, but they've got a good spectrum of lights so just get the one that suits your needs.
  • 14 1
 @mt-outlaw: $365 USD is $500+ CAD... exactly what he was talking about.
  • 4 0
 @edthesled: That Lezyne 1800 is fantastic also just got the 1000 of a friend for cheap so that will be great on the head mount
  • 5 0
 @mt-outlaw: ding ding ding! Amazing lights, amazing service and built in Chicago. I broke a mount in a crash, went to buy a new one and saw this "If you have a broken Evo mount, please contact us before buying another, regardless of how you broke it!".

So I did and they sent me a new one at no charge.
  • 8 2
 Knock off MagicShine from AliExpress. One on the helmet, one on your bars, a third because quality control sucks. Whole setup for under $100.
  • 2 0
 @FrankS29: Same here. Niterider lights are fairly bulletproof
  • 2 0
 @Mouette230: Olight sells rebranded MagickSHines, often on sale. I got RN1500 for bar, and RN1200 for helmet ( RN1200 has lock feature so it won't turn on in my backpack). Most of the time I run them at half power only. On full power they last 1,5 hours only but make trail as visible as in a daylight ( I only ride gnarly single track, for gravel and mellow stuff any 350lm light will do )
  • 2 0
 @Mouette230:
You can get a 1000 lumen lightnmotion helmet light for $75USD. These are incredible for the bars:
kaidomain.com/Bike-Lights/S024183-SolarStorm-X6-4-x-Cree-XM-L2-U2-White-4-Mode-3000-Lumens-Bike-Light-Black
You can find options on amazon as well.
  • 12 2
 @thesingletrackhunter: and spend another few thousand for fire insurance, cheap lights are cheap because they cut corners in both components and quality control. get a high quality light from a company that needs to keep their name clear and actually does quality assurance. not saying every amazon or alibaba special will burn your house down, nor that no name brand ever will, but lithium batteries are unforgiving when they go bad.
  • 5 0
 Night Rider…….
  • 5 0
 @Mouette230: The main difference between a $500 light and a $50 generic amazon light is the battery charger. Better charger prevents damage to the battery.
If you just accept that your batteries won't last forever, the really inexpensive setups work great.
  • 3 0
 @Mouette230: Magicshine RN1500 for helmet and RN3000 for handlebars. USB-C charging, and good quality. You can buy on Amazon.

www.amazon.com/Magicshine-Rechargeable-Bicycle-Headlight-Waterproof/dp/B09WK12XBG/ref=sr_1_4?crid=KAZ6K1TGPUN7&keywords=magicshine+rn3000&qid=1664576434&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIyLjEyIiwicXNhIjoiMS45MiIsInFzcCI6IjEuNjYifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=magicshine+rn3000%2Caps%2C147&sr=8-4&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.18ed3cb5-28d5-4975-8bc7-93deae8f9840
  • 3 1
 @Mouette230: I have a Bontrager Ion 1300 and a Lyzyne 1000. I'm into it for $250 CDN and they are mint!
  • 2 0
 @Mouette230: check kaidoman , there"s a thread in MTBR about lights, it's probably the best Asian supplier, he even modified some according to more knowledgeble user specs, one of the glowworm look alikes in the handlebar for throw a solastrom in the helmet as spot is pretty affordable and a great setup.
  • 1 0
 @islandforlife: DAMN!!! I did not realize CAD was so down. That sucks.
  • 2 0
 @FrankS29: same. Can confirm they make good stuff. Super light and non-cumbersome as well.
  • 2 0
 @Mouette230: I ride with nite rider 1200 on my helmet and 900 on the bars. probably ~200$ combined. Bright enough to post a pr on a trail I have ridden dozens of times.
  • 1 0
 @KK11: Say no more.
  • 9 1
 Back in the day you would ride with a 35w halogen on your head & a lump of a lead acid battery on your back.
Consider yourselves lucky now
  • 2 0
 @mt-outlaw: So what @Mouette230 said... The outbound light is $509 Canadian pesos plus $79 shipping and duties. Totals $600. Us Canadians have a 30% forex hit on you guys south of us. And it gets dark at 4:30.
  • 1 0
 @edthesled: with a 6000+ lumen setup, it's fun to smoke your crew because your riding 95% daylight speed....
  • 2 0
 @mt-outlaw: yep! I’m running their wireless Evo DH package, $365 and AMAZING. I feel like I’m riding during the day with them on. And customer service is amazing.
  • 1 0
 @freeinpg: I also have Bontrager. Really impressed with the bang for buck and light small package. Solid mounts too.
  • 1 0
 @Mouette230: Night Eyes-2400 Lumens(1200LMx2) Mountain Bike Headlight Bike Light -Rechargeable 8.4V ABS Waterproof Battey Pack-Free USB BikeTaillight Bonus -NO Tool Required a.co/d/j7lvPhL

My brother used this and I use something similar. Absolutely works great!
  • 1 0
 @Mouette230: alty 1500 light from magic shine, $155 cad from the shop I work at, one on the bar and one on the helmet is perfect. Even the alty 1000's are great at $130 cad.
  • 3 0
 @Mouette230: likely late to the party here but I did most of my night riding with a niterider 1100 oled on my helmet and a cheapo Amazon handlebar light. Probably $150-200 total in that setup.

Recently upgraded my bar light to an outbound lighting evo which is a little pricey but still all in you could buy that setup today for $350. Less than $500 but still not cheap... but when you have kids and a day job it's better than not riding at all.
  • 1 0
 @valrock: yup olight definitely the way to go (can often get at big discounts), the 3500 on the helmet and then something, really anything, with a decent flood for the bars and you are set.
  • 2 0
 Night rider on the brain bucket and night rider on the bars. Both 1000 lumens. The fun part is going with people and seeing deer + stars and spooking yourself on your local trails. An interesting thing I’ve noticed (did a bunch of night riding last fall / early winter) was seeing new lines that I never noticed during the day. We’ve also done meet ups where a small group gets a later start and we converge- just good times all around and different than day time riding
  • 1 0
 @Mouette230: scope some Amazon finds! I've been running a $28 amazon found light and it's still awesome after 4 years. Claimed it was 14,000 lumens but whatever lumens it actually came out to be is plenty!
  • 1 0
 @edthesled: +1 for Lezyne!! Great product range (thumbs-up)
  • 3 0
 @thesingletrackhunter: That's all I currently run - two on the handlebars and one on my helmet. They can be kinda dodgy so check them over closely each time you use them. I've spread my purchases between a couple of manufacturers (although they look the same) to improve my reliability odds. Don't run just one light or one battery with these cheapies, you are guaranteed at some point one will flicker out and you'll be glad you didn't put all your eggs in one basket.
  • 5 0
 I'll leave this here m.youtube.com/watch?v=6q_0wxzClkg
  • 1 0
 @PhillipJ: I agree! Two cheap lights will last one winter season. One light and one battery will fail and i will need to get a new setup for the next fall. So I spend less than $50 (CAD) a year on lights. Six years later and I'm still under the cost of a single "premium" light.

Also, I find that riding at night is great for development as the conditions are usually worse than you'd prefer and you're 100% focused on what's in front of you and your balance improves.
  • 1 0
 @Mouette230: www.tradeinn.com/bikeinn/en/moon-rigel-power-usb-front-light/138672087/p?utm_source=google_products&utm_medium=merchant&id_producte=15435380&country=uk&gclid=CjwKCAjwp9qZBhBkEiwAsYFsb_CNVdtq-ZWDqd7TK3l_UHgiURqZMqJRRqTggMGqS0kVkGrv2GM8vRoC8J0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
  • 1 0
 @Mouette230: ayup-lights.com/lighting-kits?product_id=3 I used those... Aussie brand.. had them for 10 years, work a charm... They are not exactly cheap, but it is in AUD and not super expensive either... super Quality and great after-sale support.
  • 1 1
 To be honest I'm not too interested in a lot of light output. You're still riding in nature, the point is to not disturb things too much. My Lupine Piko is from their first generation so nowhere near what modern lights pump out. Plus I'm using a green filter as my thinking was that this will disturb night life the least. I do think that it would be helpful to have another light on the bars to fill in the shadows and illuminate the close range but for that I'm considering a hub dynamo. Dynamo powered lights can deliver something like 70lux now. Sure it will be a bit more of a challenge compared to riding at daytime or with a super bright light. But I ride my bike for the challenges, I'll still have fun.
  • 1 0
 @JTepic: Pretty much. That and I've ben looking. In Quebec you don't have a lot of place where you can do that legally
  • 2 0
 @mt-outlaw: +1 to Outbound. Very happy with my bar mounted light. I feel no need to add a helmet mounted light.
  • 2 0
 @mt-outlaw: yes! OUTBOUND for the win!
  • 1 0
 @arzueck: helmet light really helps see over logs and rocks etc...
  • 1 0
 @Fishmonger1: magic shine looks to be half the price of outbound.
  • 1 0
 @Mouette230: Lighting is a personal choice and there is so much posturing about what is/isn't "good" - that said, I've used magicshine for years, they are plenty bright and I've personally had no issue with them. I have a Gloworm light for my helmet and I have an ancient cygolight that is my "if something does break" backup. My total outlay for them all was around $350 (I bought them a piece at a time). One thing I have noticed, there is such a thing as too much light. I hate having all the contrast washed out of the terrain by a megaton blast of white light (some of my cohorts think the more lumens the better the lighting).
  • 2 0
 @Mouette230: I use flashlights. Seems like a much more competitive market. Got a Nitecore H30 for the helmet and a Fireflies ROT 66 Mk2 for the bars. Both just use 18650 cells so you can carry spares for the helmet light and the bar light lasts ages. No cables to snag and fail, super reliable and about $120 for the full setup. By using loose 18650's you can get really good cells and swap out any that get tired.
  • 1 0
 @Mouette230: a good Light for your helmet Max 200$ with about 1000 to 1200. Combo that with a much cheaper but important flood Light on your handlebars.
  • 1 0
 @Mouette230: I just got this. Super good build quality. Super good beam pattern. And an actual glass lens. www.amazon.com/dp/B09MYMHDQJ Get two, one for bars and one for helmet, and you're good to go for basically anything that's reasonably rideable at night.
  • 1 0
 @fabwizard: They're great, but super spendy.
  • 1 0
 @PhillipJ: Got a link for that? I'd be interested.
  • 2 0
 @zyoungson: Oh yea, and generally build them yourself from Radio Shack parts. Gel cell battery, weighed a ton.
  • 3 0
 @mt-outlaw: I second that! The Outbound Lights are absolutely outstanding, two guys in the Chicagoland area doing everything in the house, that's totally worth the price!!! I've used a lot of lights over the years, from the CatEye stadium light to the light and motion Seca and everything in between, the outbound light is head and shoulders above the rest!
  • 2 0
 @Mouette230: Go dig in the MTBR lights threads. Who has the best light setup changes over time. I still rock a random Chinese setup they recommended years ago that lights up the forest like Gods own smile. Just pick good batteries.
  • 3 0
 I have had an ACEBEAM X80 mounted with half cut old grips and yip ties to my stem, it is crayz bright on high mode can easily sustain 6000 measured lumens for the downhills, and has a very wide flood, so no need to have any additional lights mounted to the helmet. Rocking it for the last 2 years about 7 months a year (from Sept to April) 4-5 times weekly. It is a pricier option (was USD 200) but well worth the investment as it is universal, and I use it for hiking, general purpose too. As a more budget friendly option I have now a Sofirn BLF Q8 Pro for around USD 70-80. Not as wide of a throw, so might add a smaller Sofirn headlamp to this setup, but I only feel this on trails which I do not ride very often. In the past I have tried the bike specific light like magic shine and all the knockoffs, but Acebeam/Sofirn are much better quality with not only claimed but real output. The original Sofirn was for example designed by the budgetlightforum guys, and you can read a lot of good reviews for these lights online. Unlike MTB light reviews, these are backed up with measurements too, for example on 1lumen dot com
  • 3 0
 @Chuckolicious: hardout, the best ones were DIY setups.
  • 1 1
 @Mouette230: ebay, alibaba etc CREE lights is a good one, 30 dollars you'll be good to go 2000 lumens been using them for years
  • 1 0
 @WGee: The Q8 Pro looks amazing! How do you mount it? Got any pics?
  • 1 1
 @Mouette230: Amazon cheap chinesium lights are all you need, I bought a helmet and bar setup that cost me less than a $100, and they work just as well as my old $1000 HID setup from NiteRider
  • 1 0
 @WGee: Just saw it has a tripod receiver mount. Think a good quality GoPro-tripod receiver adapter would work? I've got an aluminum one.
  • 2 0
 @Mouette230: go with the Moon Meteor Storm Pro. Can't go wrong with it on the trails for a bar mount.

www.merlincycles.com/moon-meteor-storm-pro-rechargeable-front-bike-light-95012.html
(Very highly recommended)

On Amazon, there used a small Cree LED light bundle called Revtronic BT40S.

www.amazon.ca/Revtronic-4xCree-Neutral-Rechargeable-Mountain/dp/B00EG8SCLG

(Amazon.ca for $116CAD - really recommend but is double the price of what it was before but still affordable)

That light is light enough on your helmet that you don't feel the weight on the helmet like the heavier Moon Meteor Storm Pro. The brightest lumens is around 1600lm, which is good enough for trails in pure darkness. Add a handlebar mount like the one I mentioned, it's all you need. It's too bad Amazon.com doesn't carry that light anymore, but you can still find it online somewhere. The price of it when I got it a few years ago was like $50USD or around $60CAD after conversion. Probably the cheapest and best bang for the buck for an LED light that is quality, battery lasting fairly long, and is fairly small and light (back when it was available on Amazon.com)

For the Moon Meteor Storm Pro, it is solidly build and the batteries are very high quality. I can't say anything bad about it except that it is not for the helmet as it is just a tad too heavy (due to the 2 replaceable rechargeable lithium batteries).

The other light that is similar to Moon Meteor Storm is the Ravemen PR1800 or PR2400. I think the PR1800 is around the same price or slightly higher than the Moon Meteor Storm Pro.

I do have the NiteRider Enduro 2400. It fricking big but very bright! It is also 3x the cost of the other two lights I have. However, after one season of using it, I basically used the Moon Meteor and the Revtronic ones because those other two are bright enough for any given ride in addition to the size, weight, and ease of use and storage are the main factors. The NiteRider Enduro series is great if you want super bright light but the battery pack has a proprietary plug, which is bad if the battery pack goes dead. It'll be expensive to replace the battery, whereas the other 2 LED lights I mentioned have non-proprietary batteries you can replace.
  • 1 0
 @fabwizard: Yes, helmet lights are also good at lighting up whatever and where ever you are looking, instead of where your front wheel is pointing
  • 1 0
 @gnarnaimo: I also put my bar lights out by my brakes instead of near the centre.

They seem to cover more width that way.
  • 2 0
 @Mouette230: www.glowormlites.co.nz

They freight anywhere in the world

Hands down the best riding lights made

A company that is accurate with the lumen output, they are not exaggerated lumens like the majority of lights available on the market

Rule of thumb must have on helmet as where you look is where you go, recommend a second light on the bar

Thanks me later

Go and getty get get
  • 1 0
 @glenno: Interesting! Looks cool. However, any third party lumen verification? Not saying they're not on point, but the way you said it makes me think there really is, so I'd love to see it!
  • 2 0
 @glenno: I'm kinda cheap with this kinda stuff sometimes... I'm glad I put out the money for a gloworm x2, and gloworm XSV. It's been fantastic riding nights all through the winters
  • 1 0
 @Chuckolicious: Yes, just ask gloworm and they provide all the verification you need to satisfy. I see the US Orders will be shipped from US Distributor in Oregon.

Its great stuff, read the reviews, watch the imagine video (thats me haha) honestly Ive tried loads of different brands and gloworms come out on top for sure
  • 1 0
 @glenno: Gotcha. I'm going to seriously consider the X2 Adventure. $262. However, I'm also considering the Sofrin Q8 Pro, with a tripod-GoPro adapter: www.sofirnlight.com/products/sofirn-q8pro-powerful-11000-lumen-flashlight-4-cree-xhp50-2-leds-anduril2-ui-torch-ship-from-usa?spm=..collection_5609cb62-3d33-446e-9e17-1640ff66f6b8.collection_detail_1.2&spm_prev=..product_518a004f-377b-4cd7-8292-0e2b2089f189.header_1.1

The reviews for that thing are really good too. Yea, totally different form factor and only for the bars, but also $90 and can be used as a normal flashlight.
  • 1 0
 @glenno: Oh snap, right now the Q8Pro is $72 with the code.
  • 1 0
 @Mouette230: I just bought two Lezyne lights. A 1800 and 1000 lumen light on ProBikeKit both 50% off. $180
  • 1 0
 @skiboot1: There's no doubt that a Lezyne Lumina 950 through their 1200 models are enough to light up the trails. The thing with Lezyne lights is that the batteries aren't that easily replaceable. I think the manufacturers made it this way so they can charge you quite a bit for repair replacement. Yes, they are 18650 batteries, but from my experiences and from what I've read, the wiring internally to hook up the battery is not that straight forward, especially if you don't have any electronics background.
  • 3 0
 @vinay: Yeah I'm with you. And part of the fun is the exhilaration of not being able to see everything perfectly. I don't see any need to light up the trail a mile in front of me. I just want enough light to ride fast and not crash.
  • 1 0
 @PhillipJ: yip same set up here. Great cheap way to get out at night
  • 1 0
 @foggnm: Yeah, are you using filters too? I realized that my intention of building a "night riding specific" front wheel (even with a relatively cheap Shimano hub) adds up quite a bit if you also want to dedicate a front tire to it. The alternative I was looking at for a handlebar light was a flashlight from Fenix or Nitecore that accepts a green filter. And then I obviously need something to tie it to my handlebar but even for something that goes up to 1000 lumen I would still get something for a reasonable price and which I can use outside of mountainbiking.
  • 1 0
 Just get some cheap ebay specials and see if you like it. If you do you can consider investing. Better lights have better battery life and optics. Whether you need that is down to what you ride and how long for... If you do go cheap though I'd always use two light though - if one breaks or runs out of juice half way round a ride, you aren't romping out in the dark!
  • 2 0
 I night ride almost every week, and used several major brand (and Amazon) MTB lights over the last 5 or so years from winters in Alaska to summer in Arizona. My 2 cents.
-Best lights I’ve used, hands down “outbound lights”. They have the best light pattern and color period. Great compact units with pass through charging if you need extra run time. In the middle on price.
- best bang for the buck
Nite rider 1200 boost on the bars and a 950 on the helmet. I’ve been happy with this combo and keep some for loaners. They have other options and I still have an enduro light and several 1800’s but they are expensive. Buy outbound if your budget is over $200
- don’t ever buy crappy eBay/Amazon lights with the 8.4 volt battery pack typically in a nylon case. The light output isn’t the worst but if you ride hard the circuit in the battery shuts the light off until you plug it back into the charger. Ask me how I know…. Instant blackout at full speed is No bueno
  • 2 0
 Battery life definitely suffered in the cold too, which you need to factor in depending where you ride. Somewhere hot and you can probably get more life out of a cheaper set (battery).

OldschookAK - another reason to have two lights! Ha ha! Scary.
  • 1 0
 Since this thread isn't dead, I'll put in my 2 cents (been doing night rides on and off for 22 years, back when lights were halogen and nickel cadmium batteries the size of a water bottle):

If you have $500 to spend, then anything you get will be great. For the rest of us, I've been riding with this guy (EDIT $20 a few months ago, now its not available dangit):

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B098XF7K76

its a true 1000 lumens. I ride at 5am, so typically by the time I get to the top of my climbs the sun is up, and this on low is fine for that. If I was going to do lots of evening/night rides, then get three of these- two for your bars and one for your helmet. They are $20, so three of them is $60 and you get a true 3,000 lumens. Charging 3 separate units sucks, but its USB-C charging so thats good.
  • 72 0
 I do my night rides during the daytime as it’s brighter and you don’t need lights.
  • 5 0
 It's always night time somewhere!
  • 1 0
 Drink like it's the night.
  • 25 0
 I ride at night often in the fall and winter. It can be erie, every sound is either a squirrel, bear, bobcat or murderer.
Most evenings I can see other lights way on the ridge to where I’m heading. I always think that is pretty cool.
  • 17 0
 Nah. It’s a murderer 100% of the time. At least that’s what my brain assumes in the dark.
  • 2 0
 @MillerReid: Not 100%, sometimes it's a hungry family of cougars...
  • 2 0
 I love that about riding at night - your other senses are so much sharper when your vision is reduced. On the first couple of rides every fall I still get the jitters when a bright pair of eyes are suddenly staring at me from the woods. Good times!
  • 1 0
 @mo-T: Definitely. We have a lot of coyotes that are out at night and it is cool to see them crossing the trail in the dark.
  • 28 0
 I'm middle aged, and have an early bed time :-(
  • 23 0
 You can't ask your mom for permission?
  • 10 0
 I usually get up early for a ride before sunrise. This approach may work for you too.
  • 15 0
 @vinay: This is the way; empty trails, sunrises and you're in a good mood the rest of the day!
  • 2 0
 Cold, Wet and Dark .. sign me up Wink
  • 23 1
 they don't run the lifts at night I don't get how people do this
  • 8 0
 Take the lift up when it's still running, wait for darkness - > great success.
  • 15 1
 Night time is the only time!
Family and life take up the normal daytimes.
1night a week in the woods is my "boyfriend time" as the missus puts it .
Rain, snow, ice, doesn't matter just get out and enjoy it!
I prefer the tunnel vision and focus you have to have when pinning it in the pitch black with just your torch and riding buddy.
I've pretty much set all my PB's riding at night.
Daytime riding is just so distracting being able to look around .
  • 4 1
 Night rides or no rides for much of the year in places with seasons.

Daytime is busy and crowded, nighttime is quiet and empty.

Tunnel vision is real and is awesome. (Every once in a while I wish for a less capable light to restore my memories of early night rides where the tunnel vision was extra strong because my peripheral vision is completely unlit, not just dimmer)

Everytime I see someone mention "I sometimes ride at night, it's fun just slower", I think, "yer doin' it wrong".
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 It's much easier to ignore the dog shit bag christmas trees in the dark.
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 My average ride is 0600-0700 during the week. Start in the dark, finish just as it’s getting light. It’s an awesome way to start the day. Downside: clearing all the overnight spider webs!
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 I am definitely no fan of night riding. Main reason is actually that the animals should have the forest largely for their own, at least during the night.
The situation might be different in countries where the forests are much larger and the animals can just go a couple hundred meters further away and they won't be bothered. It's different in Switzerland. Or more specificall in the region called "Mittelland" (one could translate it as "middle earth" :-P ).
The Mittelland is the most densly populated region of Switzerland, where sometimes the border between villages can't be seen properly. But also the forests between valleys are rather small and does not provide much are for the animals to get away if people start night riding.
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 „plus you can often spot wildlife you wouldn't see in the daytime“
exactely. that is why I do not ride at night. you wouldn‘t believe how quickly ALL semi-legal, illegal and also sanctioned trails around here would get shut down by rangers and hunters if they see Mountainbikers smash through the woods with bright lights on at night
  • 10 0
 The Nighttime is the Righttime...
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 You're not mad at them making you, uh, kill your father, are you?
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 Damn straight it is!
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 @charmingbob: I'm happy there's someone else here who is old enough to remember when the world thought adam sandler was funny. Bless you.
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 Where I live there is only ~5 hrs of daylight in the winter (from 11 am to 4 pm), if you don't ride at night then don't ride at all. Now conversely we are called the land of the midnight sun for a reason, in the summer you can go for a ride at midnight and not need any lights.
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 @pinkbike - your totally missing the point:
I've tried it and even in rural areas I noticed wildlife I haven't seen during daylight.
Since then I'm strict against it. It's enough that we built our playgrounds in there natural habitat.
Leave the nighttime to them.
Peace and out.
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 I live in phoenix arizona, and night rides are a way of life. In the summer from may to september the temperatures will be 100+ all day, so our high school team will start a ride at 6:30, right at sunset, and then end at around 8:00, which gives you about half and half of riding in the sun and riding in the dark and its amazing, so much more enjoyable than you may think
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 I enjoy night riding when the temperature is still reasonable. Once it drops to around freezing, it becomes much less enjoyable despite having the appropriate clothing and gear. However, snow rides are some of the most fun rides I've ever had, day or night!
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 My rule of thumb is to pick two of the three;
-Cold.
-Wet.
-Dark.
If you have all three it's worth skipping the ride that night.
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 Group night rides only. Solo is way to spooky. Lots of potentially dangerous wildlife in my area.
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 hear this very often, yet none of these people ever run into something. Bears can be a concern, but won't they see ya and f*ck off even earlier than during a day?

I run into bears in BC on multiple occasions ( during the day) and they always take off
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 @valrock: In south east BC, I see black bears in the spring and fall on almost a daily basis on the trail, street and in my back yard. During the day it's not really a big deal unless I have to reroute because a momma won't move off the trail (happens a lot). In my experience, they seem to be bolder at night, perhaps feeling safer in the camouflage of the dark. The last 2 years there's been a grizzly hanging around town in the fall and the only sightings reported have been just after dusk. I don't really want to run into a black bear, but I'm used to them. The grizzly scares me. I've never seen one out of captivity. I've also never seen a cougar, wolf, or moose while out on the trail, and they don't often come around town, but the possibility that they're out there is enough to keep me for wandering around in the dark alone. I have a good set of lights, but every stump and boulder still looks like a cougar waiting to pounce.
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 @valrock: the only reason you don't hear about it is because those that do run into something never make it out of the woods to tell the tale...........
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 @valrock: There's at least one mountain lion in the trails at the back of my neighborhood.

It's not the cat you see that need to worry about. It's the one you don't see that is most likely to kill you.
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 When night riding season shows up in the parts of the world that get winter, it's time to fix the body after breaking it down over the previous 5 months of obsessive riding. It's fun and novel a few times every year, but I'm getting pretty burnt out by end of September and don't need to keep riding after work in the dark. Usually I look forward to other activities after work like the gym, or going skiing.
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 Ebike for recovery days.
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 I have a couple hundred lumen name brand headlight for my helmet that tucks nicely thru my visor with the pack sticking to the rear of the helmet so nothing to hook on a branch. Then a super bright Chinese headlight on the bars. I can not ride without the helmet light. Helps for corners and hills. Or things that go bump in the night in the trees haha
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 Not thrilled about night riding but sometimes it's the only way to have some riding time. I still don't have a satisfying light though. So, if someone knows of a good trailproof light that doesn't cost like a new wheelset, do tell, please
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 lightandmotion.com/collections/seca

A pair of Seca Comp 1500 or 2000 on your bars will light up the trail better than the lights on your car, and they a very affordable.
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 Lifeline Pavo 2000L from Chainreaction uncles at £79
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 www.amazon.com/dp/B09MYMHDQJ
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 Night riding enjoyment is highly dependent on your light setup, with 2000lumens on your helmet and 2-- lumens on your handlebar, it's as good as the day... In the US southwest, the temperature is actually better most of the time at night
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 For me it's dependent on whether the badgers are out on my inbound trail
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 I thought that “bimbing” was a British term for faffing off with a bit ‘n bob after a nib of blood pudding… but I guess it was just a misspelling of “bombing.” I think I’ll bimb around on my next night ride, though.
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 Bimbling generally means travelling a bit more slowly/cautiously than normal.
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 Bimbling means aimless wandering - thumb up bum, mind in neutral...
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 It’s a necessity, but it’s certainly not the same as ridingthe day. Magicshine 1200 on the helmet for the it’s just the beginning or end of the ride light. I’ll add the Magicshine 3500S to the bars for longer rides in the dark.
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 Loved riding at night but the longer I think about it, the worse it gets. Animals get stressed all day long by people in the woods … I think its not the best thing to stress them eben more with night riding events in wintertime. So thats for me some kind of a no go - here in our region in germany. Maybe not everywhere …
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 Outbound has great customer service. I spoke with Tom at the Bentonville bike fest this summer. He recommended I bring my external battery with a frayed connection back to the festival the next day and he'd send me a new one. I want able to do that at the time. I emailed outbound two weeks ago about the battery to see what they could do. Tom remembered my story and sent me a new battery and return shipping label to send the damaged one back in. It was a great customer service move. Their lights are fantastic and have a better beam spread than magic shine. Night rides are great now.
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 The first "night" ride I went on was with a close friend, we were riding at sunset and should've been down by dark.

it gets dark super fast, and we're caught on one of the hardest trails on the mountain, in just about pitch black. We had lights, so who really cares, but we we're caught unawares. So since it's not too bad with lights, we say f*ck it, lets go down another double black to end the day. We're halfway down the trail, both of us starting to get a little spooked out (he had one light strong enough, both of my lights together were almost strong enough.

We end up taking a different way down, end up in a stupidly steep chute, with 4" of sand throughout, we say f*ck it we're in too far already, end up half walking / half riding down the chute, and keep going. Little do we know we accidentally made it onto a secret pro-line, we end up passing a massive stepdown, and at the end we're almost to the bottom, and realize that we made it on top of a waterfall. so its pitch black, we don't have anywhere near strong enough lights for what we're riding now, both of us climbing down this massive rolling rock face with our bikes, at this point just blindly lost, trying to get off of the mountain as our ride was just waiting for us. We end up somehow making it down without killing ourselves, and then we get lost on the way out but end up getting off the mountain, after two hours of extra riding time.

TL;DR: Got lost on the mountain as the sun was setting, ended up on a secret proline.

It was an interesting ride.
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 I became resigned to night riding at this time of year as the only way to get my fix. It was a novelty really, starts off great and you look forward to every ride, every new experience, but as the writer says your'e never fully prepared, always forgot to charge my lights (once I'd found them or the correct charger), even if you do charge them, that one light, the bargain one from Amazon will always crap out midway down a dark treacherous section of trail. Then it gets really cold and really wet, the dirt turns to paste, your clothes never properly dry out, so each ride is accompanied by a damp manky smell.

Then I realised I work in a forest, with a trail and I could get my fix by rearranging my day. Sorted. No more night rides.

Then my sons got older more capable on a bike and keen to encourage them in embracing my obsession I'd make more time for lads and dads sessions. Then they suggested night rides. So I bought more lights, upgraded their bikes, bought better coats and we hit the trails, they were blown away, especially with the regular near misses with wildlife specifically deer running down or across the trail in front of them. But did they clean their bikes? Did they remember to take care of their kit makes sure it was washed? Did they charge their lights? No of course not, that's my job. Roll on spring and summer, that's all I can say.
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 Just charged up my lights today for my first night ride of the season. Here’s to hoping for no big cat sightings.
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 I'm too chicken to ride at night on account of bears.
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 @DJ-24: yeah, we get some pretty big squirrels over here.
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 @DJ-24: I have started getting a bit bear/cougar paranoid as i get older so I play podcasts on my phone(speaker not headphones) so they think there are more people in my herd.

This article just reminded me to charge my lights for tonights ride.
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 @DJ-24: bears are not nocturnal.
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 @kingbike2: Tell that to the one who goes through my back yard in the middle of the night.
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 @fabwizard: I’m not a biologist but perhaps it’s a really hairy man. To be sure offer it a beer.
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 @kingbike2: omg sasquatch.

I'm gonna be rich
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 @fabwizard: That's a good idea, even when I ride during the day I'm constantly ringing my bell.
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 @kingbike2: They are if you accidentally wake them up.
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 I'll strap every LED light I have to the commuter like a mod's Vespa or whatever, but MTB night riding ain't it. Finally admitted it and it's way better this way. I'd rather take time off work and ride once in the day vs 10 times at night.
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 Yeah, I hate to admit it but the vast majority of my riding currently is commuting, and even that is 50 percent in the dark this time of year. My entire morning commute has been in the dark for several weeks now, and depending on when I take off for the day I might get 50 percent of my ride home in twilight.

Better than not riding though... shoulder shrug>
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 Night MTB rides are 10 times worse? You need a new outlook, or at least new lights.

Get a strong wide-beam bar light for contrast, a good medium-beam helmet light to look through corners, go shred! Any halfway decent modern light set-up is going to light up the trail way further than you need to be looking. Sorry, you're just not that fast (definitely aren't if you trade 10 rides for 1 ride), and even if you are there are overkill lights available for only slightly-stupid money.
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 @owl-X "...like a Mod's Vespa." - great image.
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 @aks2017: commuting is under rated.
1. Saves gas. Who doesn't like spending less?
2. No traffic.
3. No temptation to surf the internet when I'm pedaling. Just get to live in the moment (unlike right now).
4. Saddle hours add up to serious fitness bumps. Mountain biking is better when you're not worn out after an hour.
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 @JSTootell: yep, 100 percent. Did my first ever century on the road the other day after 6 months of decent commuting mileage, and felt superb at the end of the day. 105 miles, 7100 feet of climbing, and was still able to do a several mile flat pull to the finish at 22-23 mph. And i’m the most average, nothing special cyclist. In years with no commuting, I would have blown up so hard on this ride. It’s crazy how much fitness I’ve gained.

And your other points are great. I get to work and home from work in such a great mood, no matter how well I slept or how my work day went. My coworkers get a better, “me,” at work, and my wife and son get a better, “me,” at home. So good!
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 @aks2017: Totally agree. I will not buy a house or accept a job if the two aren't within cycling distance from each other. Actually, I now live too close to work to get any serious workout if I don't take a detour.
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 Do I ride at night?....in my dreams ...
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 Same here.... and then I can wheelie, manual, etc. Smile
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 We are still talking about bikes here, right? Wink
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 I used to ride at night a lot. I started with a sidewall generator in the mid 80s. We rode at night all winter. I don’t anymore simply because I am retired and don’t need to. Although I was thinking of getting new lights nd doing it again.
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 Just got a set of Outbound lights and did my first night ride. Enjoyed it but had that ‘gotta get out the basement before it gets me’ feeling about 3/4 through when i realized I was now the only one out there. In this case they were new-to-me trails too, which is probably not ideal for not being creeped out.
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 Yeah I get that all the time. It’s better when you’re riding trails you’re familiar with and when you’re riding with a buddy.
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 I've been night riding forever. Run all kinds of light set ups over the years, but settled on stuff from Gemini. When my kids were younger and I was in an office 5 days a week, 2 out of 3 rides were night rides or dawn patrol. Now that kids are older and I'm hybrid for work, I can ride in the middle o the day more, so maybe a night ride here and there, but it's more by choice. Thankfully, dawn patrols are a distant memory. lol.
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 I’ll do it. I’ll enjoy it. 2 nights a week currently. Might take a dive when it gets wet and muddy.
But only because I’m at work in the day.
You’ll know when I win the lottery because the first thing I will do is give away my lights, I won’t ever need to go out at night again.
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 I'd really like to try it and I was gonna buy some lights for the fall, but I cracked a rim last week and I can't justify $400+ in lights after that unexpected expense. Definitely plan to get them sooner or later, but for now looks like later.
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 Let me just say Slickrock Trail at night with early 2000's lighting tech - it was fun, surreal and a little scary, all at the same time.

I've ridden with lights off and on for commuting for a while now and did a couple of 24 hours events near here but didn't really get serious about riding after dark until 4 years ago when I bought a fat bike. We ride every week with lights starting about this time of year, then do it on our fat bikes all winter long (the snow makes your lights seem twice as bright). Love it, and since its not rainy/wet here through our winter, you only have to worry about the cold (-20C seems like a healthy limit, although I know some of the low spots have been colder).

Dodgiest night ride - three of us were out for a lap of 7-27. Halfway down one of the guys in front of me pointed to some tracks and blood where it looks like a cougar caught a squirrel or other small animal - the blood was fairly fresh and it freaked all of us out.
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 Slickrock in Moab? That would be a trip at night
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 @gnarnaimo: Yep, was definitely a treat
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 I use multiple lumina nightriders cheap and effective. One on the helmet 1-2 on the bars. got a few friends to run them too so you can swap! which is huge you never know when you needs a spare.

got an outbound too, its bright; but the thing is always running out of juice before the end of the ride.

i have had a few brands, so got to say nightrider for the win for reliable.
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 My 6am morning rides started becoming night rides in September. The dark isn't the hard part about riding, it's the cold. Started riding when it's 65f/15c and its not bad. Now it's more like 45f/7c and that is a bit of a struggle. I might end up switching to the trainer in a couple weeks but it's more because of the cold than the dark.
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 @Mouette230: I used to buy expensive lights then would cry when something broke or malfunctioned. You can now buy pretty cheap CREE LED helmet mounted bike lights from Amazon for ~$50 that work fine. Super bright and you can can even purchase an extra battery pack.
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 I got followed by a cougar last time it rained at night or I guess two times ago but I like Rye to get that it’s a lot of fun but cougars are scary this time of year. Also I think the cougar wanted to eat my dog.
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 I used to love weekly night rides. I wish my schedule still aloud for it especially with how cheap and good lights are now. People today don’t know the real thrill of bombing downhill with your 15w halogen light that cost you twice what todays 1000+ lumen cost having no clue what may be just beyond its reach, good thing I was younger and had faster reflexes. Still a thrill when I get to occasionally do it but with 1800 lumens and 900 on helmet it almost feels like cheating, you don’t know what dark is till your out in the woods with the equivalent of a 3d cell mag lite strapped to your handlebar lol.
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 Just thought I'd throw my 2c in. I picked up a outbound downhill evo package last year and their awesome. Really compact and easy to mount. I used Chinese lights before that and their really good but quality is soso. Mine use to randomly power off and that was that so I might get 3hrs or 30min out of one of them I had about 4 of these lights and they all did it. The other thing with lights is get an all in one unit cause attaching extra power packs is a pain in the arse at best and could potentially be dangerous if you don't secure it well in a crash batteries ain't light. The final thing I'd say about lights is the beam spread is more important than the lumens, again that tends to be the difference between the cheap and expensive ones. But if you want to go the Ali express route China cycling just did a video on Chinese lights. youtu.be/gE_0QOYKZto he seems to reference them all off this site. www.flashlightbrand.com
  • 1 0
 Finally got a couple lights to right after sunset this season and it is a game changer. don't have to rush to get back to the parking lot before I am blind. Should've bought em' year ago. One 1300 lumen Lezyne on the bike and a 1000 lumen Lezyne on my head.
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 Finally got a couple lights to right after sunset this season and it is a game changer. don't have to rush to get back to the parking lot before I am blind. Should've bought em' years ago. One 1300 lumen Lezyne on the bike and a 1000 lumen Lezyne on my head.
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 I love the Night lights threads - I brought 2 Exposure lights 6 years ago, yes £220 and £400 but they are still going strong, have been warranty services twice, been upgraded with new components twice and are both brilliant lights - Im not flogging exposure but, you get what you pay for - before these I used Magicshine's and they were great but only lasted 1-2 seasons before battery's lost charge or they came up with faults so that was £150+ every 2 years for 1 light so - YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!
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 The good: it's better than not riding, when light set up is dialed you can go almost as fast, adventures get deeper at night
The bad: it's more money to spend, it's something else to charge, think about and remember to deal with, lights do fail - and when they do, it's almost never a good time.

Day time for me, when I can, thanks.
  • 2 0
 I find that I ride faster at night sometimes. both up and downhill. uphills because I'm convinced something scary is trying to eat me. and on the downhills I'm hyper focused on my line because its the only thing i can see.
  • 2 0
 Fall is the time for night laps. Outbound lights are a must though. Aside from being slightly more worried about crashing into bears, I vastly prefer night riding.
  • 1 0
 The bear collision is high, I have enough close calls during the early AM.
  • 2 0
 Riding at night would be great for later in the fall when the days are short. But riding when it's 20°F kinda sucks, which means I don't really ride at night much.
  • 1 0
 I enjoy hoping on my gravel bike and taking a spin around town after my family all goes to sleep. There is no traffic and it's the best way to ride during the week to keep the legs spinning.
  • 4 1
 Fat biking at night is a blast. Not everyone has snowy trails where that’s a thing, but it’s a really fun thing.
  • 2 0
 I've set a few PRs on climbs at night because hardly anyone rides our local trails at night and I can go all out without worrying about any downhill traffic.
  • 2 0
 Hell no. But then again I’ve read too much Stephen King and HP Lovecraft to want to see the yellow eyes glaring back at me in the dark.
  • 1 0
 I love night riding. Especially sketchy trails.
www.instagram.com/tv/CWLFHZplMyB/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Magic Shine Altty 2000 and insta360 One R on handlebar makes for great POV footage.
  • 1 0
 I’ve convinced myself that when in pitch black nighttime, you can temporarily blind an aggressive animal with your $350 lights. If I ever learned that this was not true, I may stop riding at night.
  • 1 0
 I leave my red blinking light on hoping it helps.
  • 1 0
 Rules are basic lights (halfords job) loads of fun with shite lights, what's the point of night riding if you turning night into day with 1200 lumens and creating shadows for everyone infront of you
  • 3 0
 I tried it and got scared of howling coyotes
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 Those weren’t coyotes !
  • 6 0
 sorry that was me. I get a little cray cray during a full moon.
  • 1 0
 It’s definitely desert night riding season and I’m stoked about it. In the summer, regularly start rides in the dark to beat the heat too.
  • 2 0
 I do own a cover lit pump track, dirt jumps and quarter pipe so I am a local hero when it's rainy and dark here in the NW.
  • 2 0
 its sometimes easier to hop on the trainer for a hour than go out for a night ride
  • 1 0
 Pretty awesome sight going through the woods at night, in the back of the pack of 8-10, and seeing the lights flowing ahead.
  • 1 0
 #MOUNTAINLIONS - so, never alone. A couple slow porky buddies are more than welcome.

I am fearful of crepuscular vespers in the gloam.
  • 1 0
 My weekend rides are after work. Usually a couple hours of daylight, then a couple hours of night. Sending jumps and drops are so much more exciting at night.
  • 1 0
 To highjack the thread, if you ride at night up north, the real question is what kind of hand protection do you use? Bar mitts? Crab gloves? What works best?
  • 1 0
 Totally enjoy night rides especially in the winter on the fatbike. 700 lumens on the helmet and 900 on the handlebar works great.
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 I also wear my sunglasses at night
  • 1 0
 So they can't see me.
  • 1 0
 Here in Austria most trails are illegal as it is, if I start riding through the woods at night I'll probably get shot by some angry hunters.
  • 2 0
 I’m always terrified I’ll be eaten by a bear, even though I live in the middle of Edmonton.
  • 1 0
 Spend $400 in any brand and you'll get a good set of lights. For me it's the people that make diving lights. Light and Motion
  • 1 0
 Depending where you live, riding at night or for me crazy early in the morning you can avid the crowds.
  • 1 0
 I spent under 100 bucks for my first light set up (helmet and handle bar lights) but this is the year I am upgrading.
  • 1 0
 Where is the option for "I used to ride at night, but then they invented zwift"
  • 1 0
 Night rides are okay but in the fall and winter it also means all your stuff is wet nd dirty which sometimes suck
  • 1 0
 Where's the answer for multiple times a week when days are short? None of those answers are accurate for me Frown
  • 1 0
 my night riding is before dawn now. I go out at 6 am before work year round, which is indeed dark half the year.
  • 2 0
 Night riding rocks. Riding in the cold night or day sucks.
  • 1 0
 I haven't gone night riding mtb for a while but commute a lot and mornings are mostly dark.
  • 1 0
 Patrin used to make fun of my old halogen lights. He was a Dick about it. I hate him.
  • 1 0
 Night riding isn't just for winter. In the tropics, I night ride through summer.
  • 1 0
 it's been awhile. need to go again soon. makes routine trails fun. I guess I'll charge up the old lights
  • 1 0
 Ride during the day if at all possible; ride at night when necessary; avoid the indoor trainer at all costs.
  • 2 0
 The real polarizing Pinkbike Poll: Do you take your gloves off to pee?
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 No, i just put a condom on
  • 1 0
 well, night riding is a must on winter times at Finland, cos daylight is just for 6-7h
  • 1 0
 I honestly ride more at night in the summer just cause the day time is so damn hot.
  • 3 1
 your mom rides at night
  • 1 0
 I love a night ride, don't clean my bike until the next day though
  • 1 0
 I go out and come back late being sweaty, muddy, with numb hands.
  • 1 0
 Give me the option for “I’d love to start”
  • 1 0
 pink bike night riding light review is coming out next July, hang tight
  • 1 0
 Day n night
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 Avoid night rides, let the animals sleep in forest
  • 5 3
 You know there are nocturnal and diurnal animals right? ... Guess we should never ride ever.
  • 2 0
 Went out once it was like that scene in the ace venture in the bat cave. Then I almost got charged by a 100 kilo wild boar. It's not just sleeping animals you are disturbing. Never went back again.
  • 1 0
 While I agree in principle, most of the larger forest/woodland animals here in the UK are nocturnal or crepuscular, so they are actually more likely to be asleep (and vulnerable) during the day when most people are riding or walking dogs off the lead, which is arguably more disruptive to wildlife.
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 Night riding is awesome
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