Pinkbike Poll: How Familiar Are You With MTB Technical Jargon?

Apr 23, 2021
by Seb Stott  

When writing reviews and technical articles, we want to go deep into the specifics. But doing so without explaining everything from first principles every time requires assuming some knowledge and using some jargon. Judging by the comments, some members of the Pinkbike audience are extremely well-informed, but that doesn't mean everyone is. So I want to know what you know, so we can go into technical details without leaving too many readers behind.

If you want to learn more, I can recommend reading Dan Roberts' article on anti-squat if you haven't already.

How confident are you with understanding anti-squat?



How confident are you with understanding anti-rise?



How confident are you with identifying different suspension layouts?

Do you know what's meant by terms like Horst-link, short link four-bar, linkage driven single pivot and so on?



How familiar are you with the relationship between head angle, fork offset, ground trail and mechanical trail?




128 Comments

  • 434 1
 I know that anti-rise is the feeling people over 50 get when seated in a comfortable armchair.
  • 94 3
 Sit me on anything around a fire, and the anti-rise reaches over 100%... And I'm only 41.
  • 163 0
 I thought you were making a viagra comment, then I read the whole sentence.
  • 115 0
 Anti squat is when you pay for your housing
  • 23 69
flag tacklingdummy (Apr 23, 2021 at 12:21) (Below Threshold)
 @wheelsmith: Squating is when you don't pay for your housing.
  • 68 1
 @tacklingdummy: well done! Now, with that in mind, can you tell us what anti squat might be?
  • 16 0
 "Anti Rise" is what they invented Viagra for.
  • 15 0
 @tacklingdummy: Anti-Squat is the home alone kid
  • 9 6
 @ODubhslaine: Anti-squat is describing those who don't like squatters.
  • 29 0
 Anti-squat is when you have to hold on your poo
  • 7 0
 Pass me a second beer and my anti-rise goes well over 100%
  • 4 0
 as a 51 year old, I fully endorse this sentiment.
  • 4 0
 "Metaphors be with You all "
  • 2 0
 And here I thought it was every day they didn’t take the blue pill.
  • 2 0
 @ODubhslaine: anti-squat is when you go on a camping holiday, but refuse to use their barbaric hole in the ground toilets
  • 9 0
 @oscartheballer: Viagra stops old men falling out of bed
  • 5 0
 @oscartheballer: Viagra is what gives you those good head angles.
  • 2 0
 Ground trails don't have any jumps or North Shore type wood features. Mechanical trails are machine built.
  • 1 0
 @Mugen: jaysus man I got instant flashbacks of 90’s Kusadasi.
  • 1 0
 I resemble this comment.
  • 126 1
 Yay first to comment, I’m drinking some tea right now and have a question for all those brits out there? do y’all pour the boiling water in your mouth, or suck on the tea bag first?
  • 156 0
 We open up the tea bag, put the leaves in our mouth then get a straw and drink out the kettle
  • 56 1
 @benasquith: is talking about the (incorrect) northern method of doing it. In the south we are not so barbaric and so attach the bag to the spout of the teapot, the water is then poured through the spout passing through the teabag. This must be done at a 15 degree angle to get the correct flow. After that a pint of milk (blue top only please) is added to the pot. The tea must brew for precisely 1926 seconds plus 21 (The Queens birthday) and then drunk by dunking your head into the pot and singing the national anthem.
  • 6 2
 I’d think a real Brit would point out the water should never be boiling
  • 32 0
 Tell me when it's about wine, I'm ready.
  • 11 1
 @fracasnoxteam: Napa California here. It’s about wine. We drink ours when we run out of beer and whiskey in our million dollar track homes from 1950.
  • 12 0
 @benasquith: And you gents have the audacity call us 'The Colonies'! The correct way to make tea is without a tea bag. You boil the water and tea over a fire in a tin can that has a handle. When it is ready you swing it around and around so that the tea leaves go to the bottom. Then you pour off the tea into your tin cup and sit down next to the fire with your kelpie or blue heeler and tell stories about how you both hate and miss women and how the country was much better after The War.
  • 3 0
 @iamamodel: have any good jumbuck recipes to go with that billy?
  • 3 0
 @kiksy: That's a really slack pour angle!
  • 1 0
 @Tonedelove: Can you figure casttle house with more space UNDER than UP? When first bottle open at 11h and the last one is a 45yo Pommard you can't even sell because nobody can buy, opened at 3 am the next day. BURGUNDY
  • 105 1
 SHHHHH.....don't tell my hardtail that I participated in this survey.
  • 27 0
 They added the 4th question for inclusivity.
  • 43 0
 The anti squat on my hardtail is unbelievable!
  • 106 4
 I'm beginning to think that hardtail people are like crossfit people. How can you tell if someone rides a hardtail? Don't worry, they'll tell you.
  • 45 1
 @joepax: Just wait till you meet a vegan crossfitter who grew up in New York riding up on his belt driven gearbox shifting hardtail! You'll never return from that one way conversation!
  • 28 0
 @reindeln: they also just picked up an air fryer
  • 9 0
 @Kevindhansen: hey HTs can still dive under braking; they’re just rotating around the rear axle instead of unloading the rear suspension Smile
  • 2 0
 @reindeln: also, pilots
  • 2 0
 @joepax: made my day!
  • 2 0
 @reindeln: Don't forget the children in third-world countries they sponsor.
  • 1 0
 @steezysam: and an Insta-pot.
  • 6 0
 @joepax: what are you talking about?!?!? I ride a hardtail and didn't tell you abo...whoops I guess I did
  • 3 0
 @Bike-guy2323: I ride a rigid fixed-gear mountain bike so I can feel superior to every other rider. Then I get overtaken on a climb by a 60yr old on a unicycle and had to rethink my life
  • 2 0
 @joepax: eBikers probably say the same about non-eBikers.
  • 76 6
 As an Engineer........ I know what all these mean but I am incapable of articulating what they mean in a way that anyone knows what the hell I am talking about.
  • 87 0
 how do you know someone is an engineer?
  • 219 0
 @jaydawg69: same way as you know someone is an iPhone user?

Sent from my iPhone.
  • 45 7
 @jaydawg69: Oh I'll be sure to let you know. Then I'll probably try and talk about the most complicated or complex thing I know anything about, even though most of my job is manipulating spreadsheets.
  • 15 2
 @ODubhslaine: underrated comment
  • 3 0
 @ltharris: cheers man!
  • 1 5
flag spencerh1569 (Apr 23, 2021 at 12:27) (Below Threshold)
 @jaydawg69: They will tell you about it
  • 15 1
 @jaydawg69: Unused white work gloves and a shiny white hardhat on the work site usually
  • 18 1
 @jaydawg69: the same way you know someone is vegan.
  • 1 3
 @jaydawg69: They'll tell you...
  • 2 0
 @bendrew: don't forget the clipboard
  • 5 0
 Zero TLA’s. You’re a disappointing engineer.
  • 6 0
 If you can‘t explain it to a 5 year old you don‘t understand it.
  • 5 0
 @sylvainvanier: Is it just a cultural thing that North Americans always seem to feel the need to explain the joke?
  • 3 0
 @squarewheel: you must not know many 5 year olds or Engineers.
  • 1 0
 @Paddock22: aren‘t 4 own kids enough?
  • 1 1
 @Paddock22: lol freshmen be like
  • 45 0
 All I know is you gotta break some eggs if you want to build something with broken eggs
  • 32 0
 Look, the simple fact of it is that I know everything.
  • 6 0
 Waki?
  • 29 0
 Based on the comments section from every bicycle review, I'm surprised that "I'm an expert" isn't the leading answer for each of these...
  • 33 7
 Anti squat, anti rise... Whatever happened to two gentlemen Pedal Bob and Brake Jack. World is filled with posh pretentious basterds
  • 22 1
 Ha, antisquat itself is a vague term (as used in the bike industry, esp. by brands). Bikes are really the only suspended vehicle where the primary weight of the entire system is the user, and the weight and COG varies a ton from rider to rider. its like trying to have a conversation about virtual seat tube angles (which ironically will affect antisquat)
  • 23 3
 Just flood the conversation with long words... progressive curve transforming into regressive curve, mid stroke support! Virtual pivot point migration path! Contemporary kinematics! Pushing rod! Side loaded shaft! Pedal Bob! GOOOOOORN! - it all sounds quite woody!

Anti-squat? - tinny
  • 9 0
 @justwaki: sounds like adult entertainment industry alias names to me...
  • 4 0
 +1; I really wonder how much each design can by compensated for by the rider moving their weight around in a way that works well with the entire system. I don’t follow EWS closely but as far as I know, it’s not just one suspension design consistently winning races, right? Therefore, on the metric of “which can smash through a bunch of EWS courses fastest”, there seem to be multiple possible correct solutions....or they’re all roughly equally non-ideal Big Grin
  • 3 0
 @seanp2k: most of the major suspension designs actually end up in broadly the same place regarding progression and anti squat, and then riders probably end up tuning then to be even closer with suspension tune. There are few crazy outliers these days. Unless you're using an idler, anti squat still fights chain growth/kickback regardless of how many links you use. If the design isn't very progressive, it can be made to be (at the wheel) adding spacers to the shock or using bottom out bumpers. The type of linkage is far less important than the skill of the engineers/designers/riders tuning the layout for the type of riding the bike is intended for
  • 21 0
 I’d hazzard a guess that more than 50% of mtbers (not pinkbike readers) don’t understand the difference between eTT and reach!
  • 9 0
 I’ve had several Mtn bikers with great riding skills tell me that their bikes reach was 600-something....nerdy me could not let that go.
  • 25 0
 eTT phone home....
  • 4 0
 I just with they'd publish eTT charts over a range of inseam measurements.
  • 19 0
 I was feeling pretty good about my answers til they asked about the mechanical trail and ground trail. Is that like the difference between riding on asphalt and dirt?
  • 17 0
 "I have a vague idea what they mean, but I'm not confident" can be applied to most aspects of my life.
  • 15 1
 Just throw the word kinematics out there every so often. Gets me out of a corner sometimes.
  • 4 1
 Same, but I just yell PARKOUR!
  • 14 0
 Kind of an expert when it comes to dampening and front shocks
  • 12 0
 This is the blinker fluid of the mtb world.
  • 12 0
 This poll means nothing to me.
  • 10 0
 Anti squat is what you take when that burrito you ate last night was "off ".
  • 7 0
 What started my interest and understanding of different suspension designs was an article titled "The ultimate guide to mountain bike rear suspension systems" written by.... you. Would love a follow up article or even more in depth article about different suspension designs. I still go back to that article for reference, and was the first time concepts such as anti-squat etc started to make sense.
  • 1 0
 I've read that article many times haha. Almost required reading for anyone looking to gain some understanding on FS bikes.
  • 10 0
 PB just trying to figure out how much they need to dumb-down their articles
  • 5 0
 We will see the ' climbs like a goat and descends like a cheetah' reviews again.
  • 7 0
 Semi-expert here...I'm struggling to get the right pressure setup for the rear derailleur all while trying to index the f'ing headset correctly.
  • 4 0
 Can you really know how it affects the ride unless you have tested a bunch of mules where only one factor has changed? I bet many people think they like or dislike a certain bike because of the anti-rise, or the leverage ratio curve or whatever while in reality it is because of some other factor like frame stiffness, geometry, suspension setup etc..
  • 12 5
 No idea about anti squat, but I have seen your aunt squat
  • 7 0
 Aunty squat.
  • 7 0
 The older I get, the more I realize I don't know anything...
  • 5 0
 Based upon the comment sections of any article, I came here expecting to see that everyone is an expert. #disappointed
  • 6 0
 The real question here is team long chainstays or team short chainstays?
  • 4 1
 I'm au fait with all the mountain bicycling terms and now know exactly when I need to squat and when I need to rise, having been the cause of a mess or two in the past.
  • 3 0
 Had to Google “au fait” #ifYouHaveToAsk
  • 2 0
 @seanp2k: quelle ironie
  • 4 0
 In the cycling world I’m kind of a fat ass, so I’m very familiar with anti-squat
  • 5 0
 I answered the anti rise question as if it was about suspension rebound.
  • 5 0
 definitely an expert
  • 1 0
 @timotheysski: I can't tell if that's sarcasm.lol
  • 5 0
 I think this post wins for funniest comment section
  • 2 2
 I'm a 46 y-o legend, I ride an agressive steel hardtail 99% of my riding time beside a 12 y-o 26" full suspended legend that I exceptionally use for bike parks and suicidal concerns..... what do you want to know from me???? My blood group? My mother's address?... Come on, be serious for once.
Yeah, I love you too.
  • 5 0
 I just ride my bike.
  • 1 0
 I’ve never felt my suspension compress significantly under pedaling forces on flat land, and suspension extension while braking has always been a trivial thing to me
  • 2 0
 But what about the variability of small-bump sensitivity at various points in the travel plus effective wheel loading compounding the surface area of tire in contact with the ground....

At some point I feel like they just give up and throw test riders on them to ask which works better. Then there’s also the ability of the rider to adapt / something to “feel” faster when really it isn’t. There’s also the debate around if “fastest” is always “best”, given the huge skill gap between factory test riders and the average punter.
  • 2 0
 Antisquat is the motion of your body after eating 4 crunch wrap supremes from taco bell after a hard day of riding
  • 1 0
 I am a linkage nerd. My computer is full of bike ideas and on instagram i post frame analysis like pinkbikes behind the numbers i got this.
  • 2 0
 Should have had a question with all fake terms to see how many people are lying.
  • 2 0
 I was disappointed on completion of the survey that I wasn't given a rank between dentist and Dave Weagle
  • 1 0
 Given what has been said and constructed up till now based on trail, head tube angle, and the effect of flop on steering one could argue there are no experts on the subject.
  • 2 0
 How comfortable are you that most respondents overvalued their own knowledge?
  • 2 0
 Loads of experts around here
  • 1 0
 Loads of something anyway...
  • 3 0
 I just ride.
  • 1 0
 Nah brah ya gotta just #sendIt
  • 2 0
 i heard they make a pill for anti rise....
  • 1 0
 there always 2 options ride current bike or switch to N+1 which better/slacker/more water bottles/more tits in adv etc
  • 3 0
 Run what ya brung.
  • 1 0
 I have no idea what any of this means. But I said I was an expert anyways.
  • 1 0
 i knew all of them except mechanical trail. what is dat?
  • 6 0
 Mechanical trail is the distance between the steering axis and the point at which tire and the trail surface meet (measured perpendicularly to the steering axis). Too much trail and you'll experience wheel flop, too little and stability will suffer.
  • 6 5
 I vote for this being the top pinkbike shitpost of the year (so far).
  • 1 0
 Huckin rippin spittin gnar bra
  • 1 0
 I just googled all the questions now I'm an expert.
  • 2 0
 Just ride your damn bike

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