Pinkbike Update: We're Testing Filters for eMTB Content & Racing Disciplines

Jul 23, 2019
by Brian Park  

Over the last few years we've worked hard to broaden our coverage across mountain biking, but we know the homepage can occasionally get pretty busy. That's why we're launching a content filtering test today, which enables readers to opt out of some types of stories on the Pinkbike homepage. It should let you see less of what you aren't interested in, and spend more time on what you are.

Logged in Pinkbike readers can now choose to opt out of the following categories:
• XC Racing
• EWS Racing
• DH Racing
• Slopestyle
• eMTB Content


We've struggled with how to cover eMTBs in the past. On one hand, a vocal contingent doesn't want to see eMTB content. On the other hand, pedal-assist bikes are part of the fabric of mountain biking now, and it's our job to cover mountain biking.

Going forward we'll post more eMTB news globally. If you aren't interested in it, just turn on the filter and eMTB content will disappear from your Pinkbike homepage.

How to turn the filter on and off
1. Log in (or Register if you don't have an account)
2. Visit your Profile page by clicking 'Profile' under the dropdown in the upper right hand corner
3. Click the 'Edit Profile' button
4. Select 'News Settings' in the Settings menu
5. Make your selections for any news categories you'd like to exclude
6. Visit the Homepage, now personalized to you


To make this change you'll need to be on desktop for now. The team will be monitoring and refining this feature in the next few days, so let us know if there are any issues in the comments.

In other news, our dev team is also working on some options for how tags are displayed on the homepage soon, so you'll be able to adjust what they look like. Stay tuned on that.


364 Comments

  • 317 51
 As a 40-year-old father and full-time desk jockey who only gets to ride twice a week and is about to have his third knee surgery, I am still very much NOT effing interested in e-bikes. But maybe I’ll change my tune in 30 years and can turn the filter off then. Thanks for the option Pinkbike.
  • 14 166
flag Rodeodave (Jul 22, 2019 at 22:15) (Below Threshold)
 You can day fuck on the internet, it's okay.
  • 298 2
 Is "WAKI" a category??

I kid...I kid..
...or do I?..
  • 12 5
 agreed with ya leifgren.
  • 10 54
flag BenParfitterole (Jul 23, 2019 at 2:49) (Below Threshold)
 Why aren't you interested? Do you mainly ride xc?
  • 22 43
flag bigtim (Jul 23, 2019 at 2:55) (Below Threshold)
 As a 40-year-old father who's had 13 knee surgeries I'm pissed off with all the news about tall bikes and penny farthings as its too far to fall onto my gammy legs, can we have a filter to tun off the reams of information on those as well please?
  • 10 25
flag DDoc (Jul 23, 2019 at 3:23) (Below Threshold)
 Probably more like 3 years hotrod.
  • 20 31
flag chyu (Jul 23, 2019 at 3:53) (Below Threshold)
 Can always buy an ebike and ride without pedal assist.
  • 38 30
 Same here. I just don't get it: why don't buy an MX Bike? Cheaper, low cost maintenance, less effort at all, ride more miles per hour...
  • 27 17
 @StFred: ride less places. More expensive to buy and run and more expensive to go to tracks
  • 27 15
 @StFred: You're right. You just don't get it.
  • 8 2
 I love this option. Although I wouldn't buy an e-bike, I am curious to see what they do with them. I'm not a big slopestyle guy, but if I filter those out, will I miss out on Semenuk's vids?
  • 16 22
flag jclnv (Jul 23, 2019 at 8:07) (Below Threshold)
 @BenParfitterole: Nonsense. No one can tell the difference between an eBike or a eMoto so why not buy the latter? That's what I'm going to do if eBikes take off here. Two can play at this moronic arms race in electric twatland.
  • 22 18
 @jclnv: how can you not tell the difference ? A emtb isn't twist and go. Still has pedals. Doesn't weight 100odd kilos. It's just a helping hand to the top of the hill
  • 4 20
flag havroski (Jul 23, 2019 at 9:33) (Below Threshold)
 That's okay, we are not interested in your opinion.
  • 14 1
 @leifgren thank you for your post. At 47 I feel the same.
  • 11 13
 @BenParfitterole: how can you tell if someone has a hacked throttle or not?
  • 14 3
 @scary1: please a waki filter. tired of the keyboard vomit.
  • 4 0
 I like the option. If people want to see stuff, don’t change anything and nothing will change. For people who choose to be more selective, for whatever reason, you now have that choice. Well played pinkbike.
  • 10 4
 I’m with you mate, turn 40 next month work full time only ride couple times a week. Not interested in them.
  • 4 2
 @mm732: I would literally pay a monthly membership Smile
  • 4 6
 @Cyberhatter: because everyone is in the same position as you right? Just because hour almost 50 and havnt had life altering health issues doesnt mean everyone else is in the same boat.
Put yourself in the shoes of people who might buy these bikes.
  • 2 0
 @scary1: where do I sign up for that?
  • 1 0
 @scary1: I hope it will be next week.
  • 17 10
 You're all so out of touch with modern mtb eBikes. Have you gone out for proper days riding on one? They handle like DH bikes on the way down, and you don't need a chairlift or shuttle to get back up. They're pedal, not throttle assist. They are speed limited. You can't braap out of corners or up hill. You can ride more trails in the same time. In summary, more riding, more time in the mountains, no trail damage. Armchair critics need to go try one.
  • 16 0
 @boardnz: I don’t think anyone is doubting the capability of an ebike. I think people are saying they aren’t interested in riding one. That seems fair. Not everyone is going to be interested in trying one. That’s ok too.
  • 9 2
 @boardnz: How can you say on one hand 'more riding' but then also say 'no trail damage'? Every time down a trail causes wear to the tread of that trail. Making hotlaps on your moped sounds fun, but don't kid yourself that it won't take it's toll on the trail networks out there.

If every day is a shuttle day, all of the sudden your favorite local trail is going to have a LOT more tires running up and down it. Can't wait until we have to enter a lottery for a trail pass like they do for certain Wilderness sections now. That will but a load of fun /s
  • 11 4
 @mikealive: Exactly. Also, the bikes are heavier (so are the riders generally) which causes more damage.

"heard at my favorite trails a couple of weeks ago from Ebiker "I couldn't make it to the top without this thing and now I can do a 1000 laps." Ruining the sport.
  • 3 8
flag BenParfitterole (Aug 6, 2019 at 4:57) (Below Threshold)
 @Cyberhatter: how about a rider that does cutties and blows out corners on a normal bike do less damage than a Jeff on an ebike? And also it's a chair lift built into your bike. It's no different really
  • 5 0
 @BenParfitterole: Im not a fan of riders who do that either. There are not lifts everywhere. They are at resorts. Totallk different and those trails show it.
  • 6 2
 @butters1996: Every Gerry's kid does not deserve a PHD. Some things should be earned regardless your hurdles. Not saying everywhere but lots of local trails should stay human powered only.
  • 3 0
 @Cyberhatter: at 73 I feel the same, it is walking up or riding up (with assist)
  • 2 1
 @mikealive: So you've ridden one properly for a day or more right? or are you just an armchair critic? Of course more laps = more damage. I'm referring to no more damage than an equal lap on a standard mtb vs pedal asssit emtb. Just like some people who pedal all day. Or you know hosting an enduro/DH race on track for a day does way more damage. As I said no different than a chairlift or shuttle. Most of our local trails are shuttle or chairlift access. Sounds like you area just needs to sort its trail access out and not use eMTb's as an excuse for more riding.
  • 8 3
 @boardnz: oh boy, here we go with the strawman accusations... yes dude, I've ridden them, demo'd them, had multiple versions at the shop for months at a time as I was in the industry for ~10 years. Is that good enough for you to allow me to have an opinion on them?

Yes, I agree with you--hosting a race weekend on a trail is *horrible* for the health of the tread, and it's why you don't see me campaigning for more races on the trails I ride. It's also why you rarely see multiple races on the same trails in a season.

Yes, sure, you are referring to the notion that an ebike does no more damage than a traditional mountain bike *per single lap*, got it. But we'll both just gloss over the fact that an ebike lets a person make many more laps than they normally would, thereby increasing the overall amount of damage done...because owning up to that simple fact wouldn't fit your narrative, right?

Look man, ride what you want so long as it's legal and not jeopardizing access for other riders. But let's not pretend that ebikes bringing about increased trail use is good for anyone but the ebike owner and the company selling them. If you think a train of squids clogging up your weekend spot, or having to enter a trail pass lottery because of insane increased usage numbers is a good thong because 'ebikes can increase access for the average joe' or whatever, then I'll leave you to sip your industry kool-aid. I'm fine without them. And when I get too old to ride, I'll find a new hobby, because I'm not a self-entitled jerk.
  • 4 4
 @mikealive: Well it's not my fault it sounded like you hadn't touch one and umm you alreadying come off pretty self-entitled - "If you think a train of squids clogging up your weekend spot"...

I don't exactly ride anymore or any less on the trails, I just access them differently - instead of catching a chairlift up, shuttling or pedalling - I now pedal with assistance. It means I can ride on days I wouldn't otherwise, but it hasn't greatly increased my lap on lap of local trails. So yeah, your argument is not really holding tight. You're just casting a big f*cking net.

Its the same for suspension, same for disc brakes, same for 27.5, same for 29.5 - people hate change.
  • 4 2
 @boardnz: *yawn* k bro. Pack up that circular logic and head to the closest booter and just seeeend iiiit. Happy trails.
  • 4 2
 E-Bikes are for kooks
  • 2 0
 Loved your comment
  • 2 3
 @StFred: you have obviously never riden an MX bike or any dirt bike properly. MX has been called the second most physically demanding sport in the world. If you ever rode a 20 minute moto let alone a 40 minute moto you'd know that.

Then there's hard enduro... Its tiring just to watch.

The narrow minded like you cant open your mind enough to realise you work as hard as you want on any bike including emtbs. Had you ever riden one and looked at the possibilities you'd know the motor can be used to force your pace same as motorized treadmill. Then there is extreme climbing... open your narrow mind.
  • 1 1
 @BenParfitterole: StFred is completely clueless.
  • 2 0
 @BenParfitterole: it’s waaay more than a helping hand. When fully embraced, eMTB riding is done differently than on an acoustic bike. If an accomplished rider gets an ebike he or she won’t be riding it the same way they rode their acoustic rig. It’s a new way of riding.
  • 3 3
 @mikealive: I thought we had ebike filters now...can we not filter out these stupid ridiculous comments or do we have to wait for these mindless self serving ebike haters to find a new hobby? Mountain biking is about having fun, regardless if one of your bikes might be pedal assist...

Saying ebikes damage trails more is simply not true. Some ebikes are now 36-40lbs, which is no heavier than a freeride or downhill bike. So if someone is heavy (220lbs+) compared to someone who is under 150lbs, than the heavy person should not be able to ride the trails according to you as they are 70lbs heavier and will damage the trail more. Also with ebikes you can explore more untamed trails and not necessarily ride the same trail over and over. Did ebike haters think of this, no, obviously not. Can we get a filter for ebike haters, as they obviously do not have a clue what they are talking about and it gets very tiring reading these narrow minded comments.
  • 1 1
 @RowdyAirTime: Holy moly.. getting mad about and replying to a comment from A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. Speaking of finding new hobbies...might I suggest motocross? Enjoy Big Grin
  • 2 2
 @mikealive: Ooops, my mistake Mike. I didn't realize this was an old post as PB posted this again. No problem, it's all good. Actually many of us are hoping some of the ebike haters have found a new hobby instead of needlessly putting someone down just because they like to have fun riding bikes...

Most of us enjoy the downhill part of mountain biking and if you have a super long and steep vertical climbs to get to the trails, why not put a smile on your face while riding up and be more refreshed going down. That's what this is all about, having fun and not judging people that are out there trying to do the same...
  • 1 2
 @RowdyAirTime: Well bud, if you bothered to actually read any of my posts on the topic, you'd see that I'm very much in the camp of 'ride what you want, where ever it's permissible to do so'. I don't care if it's an ebike or a trike, you do you. *However*, what I won't stand for are bogus claims or weak defenses like the one you've just posted. In your first reply I would have given you the benefit of the doubt, but seeing as this is a follow up response, I can indeed be sure that, yes, it was aimed at me. You refer to "ebike haters"...and?? When you go to the trail do you need approval from everyone at the trail head for the color of your frame or for what pedals you run? I'll go ahead and answer for you--of course not. So why do you care what other people think about the bike YOU bought and ride? Grow a spine dude.

"...needlessly putting someone down just because they like to have fun riding bikes..." This has all the constitution of a wet bowel movement. Built-in dishonesty, as it completely glosses over the very real impacts to trails that increased use bring, and, in the US at least, the potential for trail access restrictions because an assist motor on a bike makes a tenable stance on bikes in Wilderness areas much harder to maintain as the law is written now. But sure, it's all about feelings maaaan.. I just want to ride my bike maaaan... you're just a hater brooo... pfft.

On the chance that you'll again try to argue a non-point, I'll clarify--it's not the weight of the bike or the rider, it's the increased laps on the trail. Every person on an ebike has the ability to go farther on a trail, or do more laps on a trail. That is increased trail wear. 'But I don't ride any further than I normally would, I'm just too busy to keep my fitness/ have a physical injury/ whatever justification...so I ebike' Right. So if not for the ebike, that user *wouldn't even be on the trail*, so yes, still increased trail wear. In nature, this would be referred to as a natural thinning of the herd--and while I'm not speaking about riders actually dying, the natural tendency would be for someone to take up a different hobby, thus decreasing the trail rider base. Instead of thinning the herd, in the MTB industry this is seen as a 'new user segment', lol. And, because of warped expectations and human entitlement being at a peak right now, *of course* there's no reason that Ol' Johnny shouldn't get whatever his heart desires, right? No worries, they are already developing a gyroscope to keep a rider steady for when they are too impaired to even be able to balance. The next Big Thing™.

Like I said, ride whatever suits you, where it's legal to do so...makes me no matter. I ride with hot pink women's gloves that I love, and people flip me sh*t for it sometimes... doesn't keep me from enjoying my ride. And it sure as sh*t doesn't have me having a mid-life whining fest about all the 'haterz' in the PB comment section. Happy Trails.
  • 2 2
 @mikealive: Complete BS you are in the camp of "ride what you want". You have clearly shown that you are against ebikes and like to try to put people down. Obviously you care about what other people ride (ebike hater), so don't think I care. I truly think everyone should have the chance to ride a bike if they are able, as life is too short and we must try and enjoy it while we are here. By the way, just because you can spit ugly words at people does not mean you have a spine more than others?

Seriously, your whole argument is that EMTB's have the "ability" to do more laps and cause more wear to the trail? What about people riding in very wet muddy conditions, does this erode the trail more than 1 extra lap? What about someone that is in much better shape than you and he does 2 laps to your 1 on a regular pedal bike, and they erode the trail more than you? What if someone goes riding everyday and you only go once every 2 weeks, as they have eroded the trail 14x more than you in just 2 weeks? What if the person riding a EMTB only does 1 lap every 2 weeks and you do 1 lap every day? What if your neighbour brings his 3 kids and wife and 5 bikes are now eroding your trails? Is this ok? With your argument it is really hard to understand what is ok and what is not? What's the difference, as it sounds like you are just jealous if anyone is on "your" trail more than you?

What if the EMTB rider is permanently injured and can luckily ride with the help of an ebike to help them get up very steep long climbs. Oh, I forgot you don't think someone that can use some pedal assist to make it easier to ride a bike should be put out to pasture and call that "a natural thinning of the herd". It also sounds like you say ebikes should not be human entitlement. Many injured athletes and ex pro mountain bikers ride EMTB's as it allows them to still do what they love and get out in nature plus it helps with rehab, etc. Mike says if not for ebikes (or moped's as you stupidly call them), anyone who rides one should not be out there eroding "his trails". What complete BS and such a self serving uncaring comment.

Ebikes actually are a great addition to mountain biking, especially where people know what they are talking about and are very useful (make it easier to help build and maintain trails), so your argument about ebikes limiting trail access needs to be addressed. EMTB's do not cause anymore damage than a regular bike and are not noisy, so again your unnecessary argument is not even worth reading.

At least you make it quite clear what you think and uncaringly speak of others. Speaking of whiners, you have been whining about ebikes and anyone who rides one, even if they ride regular bikes more than their ebike. If you whine this much now, I sure hope we don't have to listen to you whining on PB years from now? We sure don't need to ask where you stand about Covid (who cares kill all the old people...as that's a natural thinning of the herd). Careful of karma, as you could have some health issues or major injury one day and suddenly realize that maybe you should have been a much nicer and caring person, or just wander off into the pasture and drift away...

In the meantime, the rest of us will be enjoying riding our bikes and having fun, as that is what this is all about, not judging how many laps someone does or if they might be on a EMTB...Happy Trails!
  • 1 2
 @RowdyAirTime: Your lack of ability to understand nuance or make precise arguments, and insistence on strawmanning me leaves me no choice to skip reading more than your first paragraph, and only offer you this in response: lol.

Cheers mate.
  • 2 2
 @mikealive: you guys should both be embarrassed to be arguing in the comment section of a year old article. Stop. Go look at a cloud. If you still feel like the world needs to know how you feel, yell at the cloud.
  • 2 1
 @mikealive: That's funny, as not once have you shown the ability to make any sense or explain why you have been so nasty to others. However, I do apologize if my strong arguments strawmanned you in any way. I do not like to put people down and that was not my intention. Again, my mistake, as I should have noticed this was an old post and not taken your ridiculous comments so seriously. It's all good. Ride on. Cheers
  • 1 2
 @RowdyAirTime: "strong arguments" Jeezus christ. Like playing chess with a pigeon, honestly.
  • 2 1
 @mikealive: Dude you are not only full of shit but also delirious. You definitely have some personal issues to deal with. Good luck and I'm happy that you found a new hobby playing chess with pigeons...lol
  • 1 2
 I'm glad this whole thing can be boiled down to the fact you got your delicate feelings hurt and then you got mad about it haha. Because let's be honest here, that's the only thing you can actually engage in a debate here. Pinning things I didn't say on me then ranting about those things instead of any of the points I actually made--and trust me, I'm sure you *believe* you've made some actual counter points, lol. Alas, it's not too late to ask Santa for some thicker skin, or some decent debate skills, just an fyi.

"Arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter the move, they will shit on the board and strut like they won". It's been real, Rowdy, but I'm signing off now. I wait with bated breath for your next work of genius, but I won't be wasting any more time responding here.
  • 2 2
 @mikealive: Boo whoooo, what's the matter the bully does not like it when someone stands up to him. What a joke you are. Everytime you open your mouth you sound even more stupid and just more pea brain pigeon crap comes out. You have not made one valid argument yet and still continue to ramble on about nothing and try and put people down for no reason. Simply put, you sound like one of the biggest losers I've ever heard. I guess once you are a this much of a jerk, there's no changing that and you will always be a complete imbecile. I feel sorry for anyone that is close to you, or maybe you are just trying to be a tough guy behind your computer, but I'm guessing from your childish banter that you have always been a loser. Maybe one day you will grow up and not only respect others, but learn how to back up what you say, but I highly doubt it, and all of us on PB sure won't be holding our breaths waiting for that. Thank heaven we don't have to hear from you again, as many of us would ask Santa for a mikealive filter. God help you...
  • 1 0
 @butters1996: Like 20-30 year old posers??
  • 2 0
 @BenParfitterole: E bikes are low powered now but the bike companies will surely up the power each year to generate new sales, just like ATVs and jet skis . Mountain biking is a green sport, adding a motor is not saving the planet.
  • 1 1
 @yellkayak: use less power self climbing than a tractor or some sort of uplift
  • 131 5
 I filtered everything, finally I can read only the ads!
  • 5 17
flag MtbSince84 (Jul 22, 2019 at 23:30) (Below Threshold)
 Ha. Neg propped by accident.
  • 90 1
 While we’re at it, can we filter out content with those young kids/groms that shred way harder than I do?
  • 140 56
 I spend a bunch of money on a chairlift because I love gravity and hate pedaling. Ebikes are a fantastic solution for people with a similar attitude who don't have lift accessable trails - you can't fault someone for wanting to do eight descents in a day rather than one or two. Ebike racing is taking the goddamn piss though
  • 8 25
flag onemind123 (Jul 22, 2019 at 23:56) (Below Threshold)
 Are e-bikez taking the piss more or less then racers using illegal substances?
  • 9 28
flag BenParfitterole (Jul 23, 2019 at 4:42) (Below Threshold)
 Why is it taking the piss? I love the look of some of the enduro tracks these days but hate the idea of the shit pedal between stages. Problem solved haha
  • 47 22
 with that attitude you should get dirt bike and do like 20 descents in a day
  • 49 22
 @ErnestFrigelj: ebikes are dirt bikes. They aren't going to get less powerful over time. They just need to start slow to get access to trails. High power hacks and throttles exist already.
  • 1 0
 Double, sir
  • 12 7
 @ErnestFrigelj: Most people don't have a garage and a pick-up truck to utilize a dirtbike. Plus they're loud and smelly.
  • 10 6
 @vikb: They're not even close to the same. Try ride a dirtbike down a proper DH track, yeah possible. Fun & fast unlikely as f*ck.

You're so out of touch with modern mtb eBikes. Have you gone out for proper days riding on one? They handle like DH bikes on the way down, and you don't need a chairlift or shuttle to get back up. They're pedal, not throttle assist. They are speed limited. You can't braap out of corners or up hill. You can ride more trails in the same time. In summary, more riding, more time in the mountains, no trail damage. Armchair critics need to go try one
  • 81 29
 Love it or hate it emtb is hear to stay. Filter accordingly. No need for negativity
  • 16 11
 Two weeks ago I chatted with the local bike shop owner (I'm in the French Riviera area) and 80% of the bike he sells are eBikes. The conventionnal MTB market is collapsing completly now.

At the same time, because eMTB are more expensive the average price for the bike sold is increasing. He told me that in France the average price for a Rocky mountain bike increased by 1000€ since Rocky Mountain offers eMTB.

The DH bike market is finish, the only DH bikes the MTB brand are selling are for rental shops located in the alpine resorts.
  • 21 2
 @hpman83: That's just sad.
  • 12 8
 @hpman83: Not here in the eastern US. Things are starting very slowly for high end class one eMTBs.
I think guys that DH, like myself, will start migrating to the ebike to get that same feeling without having to drive 3hrs and pay for a lift, but its still a few years away.
  • 5 3
 @hpman83: it's the future. 'we can cover more miles and enjoy the outdoors bla bla bla'
  • 8 23
flag omartrs (Jul 23, 2019 at 7:00) (Below Threshold)
 @DDoc: nice excuse to rationalize your laziness. Curiously the best DH'ers around have a great endurance condition, so with your attitude I guess you won't reach far.
  • 8 1
 @hpman83: Well, I'm French but been living in Canada for 35 years so I know a bit about both sides and there's a true cultural gap between those two in terms of how ebikes are perceived. In Canada, the "conventional" mtb market is still strong and the only place I see e-mtb taking a chunk of the market would be in BC because of long and steep climbs (often on fire roads), just like in the Alps, Pyrénées or even in Provence. On the east cost, we have lower, older mountains that don't really justify buying an e-bike with all the drawbacks (weight, need to recharge batteries, cost) that come with those, plus the possibily that you'd be judged by others on the trail. I was in East Burke (Kingdom Trails) a month and a half ago and on the 1,000s mtbs I saw, there was just 1 ebike. So, even though it may not be a very scientific evidence, I don't see ebikes overtake regular mtbs before a long, long time.
  • 10 2
 @hpman83: The conventional market is not collapsing. I guarantee bike shops are just selling more bikes. The demographic that has been waiting for decent ebikes are buying them up very quickly. These people likely had an old mountain bike they were struggling with, or have been off a bike for years! The demographic that want or need a conventional bike hasn’t really changed.

They shop I work in hasn’t sold an ebike to anyone under the age of 45.
  • 5 3
 @StFred: Exactly. Can you believe these new fangled "Auto Mo Beels?" Or that there's a machine that will actually move you up a mountain on a chair?

Personally I'd never buy in to any of this technology. We're living in some crazy times.
  • 2 5
 @TyroneM: You are aware that you live in a completely different part of the world, no?
  • 7 2
 @ssteve: If young Europeans are buying ebikes then all hope is lost
  • 7 9
 @DDoc: amen brother. i'm on the west coast and sold the dh rig and the dirt jumper for mine, and now i ride 6-7 times a week instead of the 3-4 on my enduro. figured a bike i'd ride 300x a year justifies selling a bike i ride 6-10x a year and haven't been disappointed in the least.

2 to 3 times the dh in the same time frame as an acoustic ride... it's no contest. dh simply wins in my book.
  • 4 1
 @cool3: Great points. Add Colorado to the list of very strong traditional MTB market, but also a place where ebikes are gaining because of the long, steep climbs at altitude.
  • 10 5
 @TyroneM: Maybe not where you live, but all my riding buddies and I have gotten ebikes and we are all well under 45. Still have our analog bikes but can't deny the fun we are having with ebikes, fitting in rides after work that we could not have dreamed of getting done in time before.
  • 2 0
 @cool3: not in bc atleat
  • 75 36
 Why the hate for ebikes? I am in a position that I am not able to ride with mates anymore due to injury. All of them who are good riders, podium at races in their day tell me to get an ebike.
So people only have the choice of ebike or no bike.
Ebike will keep me on proper trails and not canal path 9 miles outings. I don’t see why you would want to take that away from someone.
  • 67 23
 For me, it's the same reason I don't want to see cyclocross, touring or gravel bikes on Pinkbike. Sure you can ride them on dirt but they're not mountain bikes.
  • 29 17
 @PhillipJ: You know you can turn the assistance off? I commute on one (it’s saving me about 2 hours a week in commuting time), ride it as an eMTB when I’m on my own and then ride it like a normal MTB (with a very heavy frame) on group rides.

And as the group rides start and finish a good few miles from my house, the other side of a large hill, it gets me home much quicker. Maybe I should instead drive to and from the group ride and then ride a much lighter normal bike because that isn’t cheating?
  • 40 8
 So in the US trail access is precious. We don’t have right to roam etc. a lot of mountain bikers view (not sure if this would happen) emtb as a threat as people will ban all mtb access based off a few bikes having electric assist motors. Also throughout the US all bikes are banned in any area designated wilderness. This is a blanket ban in areas where horses are allowed. Don’t want to give anyone a reason to say no in the future if they lift the ban.

It’s awesome if you are able to use the tech to hang with your friends. I’m stoked people like martyn Ashton still get to ride too. Emtb have their place.

Another reason people don’t like them is it feels like it’s another new thing kinda being shoved in our faces that the industry wants us to buy. I have an aversion to that personally if someone tries to sell something too hard.
  • 14 8
 @Woehlckabout: But the problem really isn’t eMTBs, it’s ludicrous access laws in one of the least densely populated countries on the planet.

Just in case I wasn’t clear, re. “It’s awesome if you are able to use the tech to hang with your friends.”

The tech is saving me time and energy when commuting and then it also speeds up the before and after bits of the group ride. But during the group ride I take the weight penalty and ride with zero motor assistance because I’m a strong enough rider and the bike rides so well as a normal MTB.

I’ve yet to come across a motorbike that will move uphill or along the flat with the engine off!
  • 8 3
 @Woehlckabout: you make a good Point on Martyn Ashton. No one slated him for using an ebike. My injury in comparison was nothing. But you can’t judge a book. Not all ebike users are lazy or cheats. I got smoked by one going up hill the other day. I don’t worry about it. At least the bloke was out not sat on a sofa.
So I buy an ebike to keep riding. Then get abuse from people who don’t even know me. Some have a shallow view of the world.
Martyn‘s injury is easy to see. Others not so much.
  • 10 5
 Ebikes are the perfect solution for people with injuries, I think the hate (or at least the reason I'm not a fan) is down to the side effects such as battery disposal in landfills and the need for insurance that I worry will spread to bicycles if they aren't kept completely separate in category
  • 8 13
flag DDoc (Jul 23, 2019 at 3:24) (Below Threshold)
 @PhillipJ: another guy who hasn't ridden one. Razz
  • 7 3
 @threehats: yep. It is definitely the ludicrous laws not the emtb. Just trying to explain why some people freak about them. Having the assist could allow more people to commute by bike which would be great.

Your situation shows just how many different use cases for the assist motor there is.

Sounds like you love yours and have fun with or without the motor on which is rad!
  • 7 4
 @Intensevp: you are absolutely right. I don’t make any judgements as to why someone wants an emtb. I don’t get the hate in the comments about lazy. If that were the case the site wouldn’t show shuttle or lift accessed trails or videos.

Also judging by the flag you all can use your emtb on larger percentage of trails than the US.

Enjoy your ride and forget the trolls.
  • 28 18
 No mater how you say it, an ebike has a motor, period. I have no problem with ebikes on roads and ohv trails. These are places designated for things with motors. Ebike content is the same to me as moto gp and motor cross racing, and should not be on a mountain bike website.
  • 7 17
flag StFred (Jul 23, 2019 at 4:52) (Below Threshold)
 @Unrealityshow: yep. Why the need of 'assistance pedalling' when you can go full moto (no pedal at all)?
  • 25 24
 @Unrealityshow:
"Ebike content is the same to me as moto gp and motor cross racing" - then you sir, are a moron.
  • 19 4
 your friends are lame if they don't want to ride with you unless you get an ebike. I ride with slower people all the time, and instead of telling them to buy an ebike I just ride slower and enjoy their company. When my fast friends want to ride a big day with a ton of climbing I politely decline as I don't want to hold them up all day. It's not hard to be a decent person.
  • 3 0
 The filter is about the PB reader's User eXperience, IE: Clutter, not about hatE.
  • 11 10
 @DDoc: Rode one last year. It sucked. No challenge really. Ebikes are for the pusillanimous.
  • 9 4
 @threehats: good for you. Still not a mountain bike.
  • 1 1
 @threehats: i don’t think we need a CBT an ebike either....
No DVLA rules. So I think it is a bike.
  • 3 12
flag Intensevp (Jul 23, 2019 at 12:26) (Below Threshold)
 @nordland071285: until they have a twist grip and travel without human effort (pedalling), I don’t see how it can be classed as a motorised transport.
  • 2 1
 @secretninjaguy: Props for the hard word Razz
  • 1 2
 @threehats: Less densely populated, more naturally beautiful... Related? Wink Don't want to become an industrial wasteland concrete jungle, but that by no means means I'm with the equestrians/rich old hikers who want to burn mtb at the stake. How about we strike a happy balance instead of an extreme? Smile
  • 5 2
 @mtbikeaddict: The UK isn’t exactly short of natural beauty - I live in the most densely populated corner but I’m still only a few minutes ride from a national park, with beautiful rolling hills that are criss-crossed by hundreds of miles of public bridleways (open to walkers, horse riders and cyclists) and footpaths (technically only for walkers but few have a problem with considerate MTB use) and pockets of woodland that are full of unofficial but long established singletrack. And I’ve walked, cycled and ridden horses all over the UK - a national park doesn’t need to be an isolated wilderness where humans cannot live or play, in fact the millennia of mankind living in the UK’s more beautiful landscapes has if anything enhanced them. Imagine the Lake District or the Dales without the patchwork of dry stone walls, or indeed Britain covered by forest as it was before man arrived.

I’ve only been to a handful of the US national parks but from my experience and further reading about them, I wonder why there’s an insistence on such a stark divide between wilderness and human habitation. And the ban on bicycles is at odds with why they were created - the mechanised vehicle exclusion was obviously for motor vehicles, not bikes which have lower impact than horses (even if they have a small electric motor assisting pedalling!)
  • 3 2
 @Woehlckabout: Sounds like your trail access management needs to get it's shit together. Not everyone lives in the states. You're so out of touch with modern mtb eBikes. Have you gone out for proper days riding on one? They handle like DH bikes on the way down, and you don't need a chairlift or shuttle to get back up. They're pedal, not throttle assist. They are speed limited. You can't braap out of corners or up hill. You can ride more trails in the same time. In summary, more riding, more time in the mountains, no trail damage. Armchair critics need to go try one
  • 1 2
 @Unrealityshow: It's actually MotoGP* (motogp without the space would be fine) and motocross* racing, not motor and then cross. Learn the terms correctly if you are going to use them in your arguments.
  • 2 0
 @WRainey88: Obviously I do not follow either. Next time I’ll research the correct way of spelling a motorcycle race series to make sure my point isn’t lost.
  • 67 34
 So many narrow minded people here, you ride a bike? Sweet....! Easy

Does it really matter what you ride? Not at all, did shits ride acoustic bikes and dip shits ride ebike. My point is don’t be a dip shit and go ride your bike what ever type that might be
  • 49 42
 It'll matter when you start losing your trails because of over-use/abuse.
  • 23 6
 @rippersub: if they are classified as mtb's(as they are in growing locations) and trail advocacy relies on mountainbiker numbers speaking up, wouldnt that give more weight to mtb trail advocacy?
  • 21 25
flag DDoc (Jul 23, 2019 at 3:35) (Below Threshold)
 @rippersub: Dude thats such a worn out and absolutely wrong excuse for being a hater.
  • 6 1
 @won-sean-animal-chin: I think the thought process is that an emtb would cover more distance. So if you have the same number of riders they are using more miles of trail and you get increased use per rider. I think there is this weird us vs them mentality that people think emtb riders won’t advocate repair and build trails the same way a fully human powered mtb rider would. I don’t think it’s accurate. Also in many areas emtb are not allowed. If they are used or look too similar to regular mountain bikes we may see regular mtb s banned with them. A lot of the backlash is treating symptoms not the root of the problem which would literally require acts of congress for many areas.

The US perspective is vastly different to Canada or Europe.
  • 3 1
 @Woehlckabout: because tgey can get deeper inyo the mountains their showing to be a useful tool for maintenance, in the US. Strength in numbers whether it be congress or othèr lobbying is key. Always was always will be. Its happening
youtu.be/3jGcc3RQiOA
  • 12 2
 @rippersub: ... so by your logic, as someone who's ridden mtb for 28 years and a bmx before that, i'd appreciate it if you'd get off the trails since you weren't here first.

I was.

Sheesh.
  • 4 0
 @won-sean-animal-chin: definitely an advantage for clearing large trees etc. reaching can’t imagine getting many photos from the ews without ebikes.
  • 4 10
flag rippersub (Jul 23, 2019 at 13:16) (Below Threshold)
 @ranke: neither of which are motorbikes....you can ride a road bike on the trails for all I care, providing it doesn't have a motor...
  • 4 2
 @rippersub: Show your local trail management the benefits, more riders, more trails, trail builders rate them too! Because they must be so out of touch with modern mtb eBikes. Have you gone out for proper days riding on one? They handle like DH bikes on the way down, and you don't need a chairlift or shuttle to get back up. They're pedal, not throttle assist. They are speed limited. You can't braap out of corners or up hill. You can ride more trails in the same time. In summary, more riding, more time in the mountains, no trail damage. Armchair critics need to go try one
  • 32 4
 Echo echo echo echo echo echo echo echo echo echo echo echo echo echo echo echo echo echo echo echo echo echo chamber chamber chamber chamber chamber chamber chamber chamber chamber chamber chamber chamber
  • 7 3
 I hope not.
  • 9 3
 @brianpark: of course it will. internet these days is tailored to your liking, that's why so many people confuse opinion with "hating", they're not used to it anymore.
  • 10 9
 @t-stoff: internet is not tailored to our liking, social media and browser results are tailored to maximize profits. It's a little bit different. But it leads to the same crap.

No matter what people say, electrically assisted physical exercise is pathetic if you're healthy.
  • 9 2
 Who cares. This is politics and opinions. It a hobby. Give people the option to view the content they want to see.

Why doesn’t pinkbike cover bmx or road cycling? Because it’s a mountain bike site and the people who read it don’t give a shit about bmx or road biking. With mountain bike disciplines (and equipment) now getting more and more specific, it only makes sense that there will be readers who have no interest in certain types of content. I don’t need to expose myself to opinions about ebikes. I know that right now I have no real interest in buying one, or any content containing them. It’s nice to know that if the amount of evoke content becomes annoying I can turn it off.
  • 10 12
 @sino428: Pretty much everyone in Pinkbike doesn't give a shit about ebikes, but why pinkbike keeps covering it? Oh yeah that's right, because money.

People get so hostile about ebikes, because the industry is pushing it in their throats forcibly and ruining the sport they love.
  • 5 0
 @omartrs: I understand that. Which is why I think its just fine that they provide us that don't care about ebikes a filter. I have no problem with PB wanting to make money, and if they allow me to essentially opt out of that content its difficult for me to say they are pushing it down my throat.
  • 7 0
 @zede: sure, but when I say internet, I say "each" of ours internet. People google for confirmation bias, they bookmark what they like, they friend and follow their preferences, apart from work this days, long where the times when you were exposed to the unpopular opinions on your group of friends, school, you had to, you had no other form of socializing and getting new info! Now you can secure yourself in tiny echo chambers as you like.

Today people can't stand that there are different opinions that can be vocal, that can be total opposite of what you stand, and maybe even disgust you and makes you furious.

You see that in politics a lot, in sports and here.
Pinkbike and the ebike thing is a perfect example of the extra sensitivities that people have with things they like. You see it all the time, they can't stand that you're not part of their team. Every time I argue (with arguments!) against an ebike I'm automatically a hater. I say "I don't have time to hate anything in my life, but there's thing I like, and others that I don't like and I voice my opinion". That? It's just too much for them to understand, I have to be called a HATER, a looser, a troll a whatever.

anyway. bring on the filters Blank Stare
  • 1 0
 @brianpark: the filter does not work for the "must read this week" I still the thing about the electric cannondale motorbike.
  • 34 9
 I am so grateful for this. At last I can read emtb articles and enjoy the comments section without all the BS from the macho haters, who for some reason still choose to read and comment on emtb articles despite vocally hating on them. Never got that really, why go on the link if you hate emtb?! I hope these people put their words into action and use the filter!
  • 69 51
 "On the other hand, pedal-assist bikes are part of the fabric of mountain biking now, and it's our job to cover mountain biking"

Motorcycles have nothing to do with mountain biking and they never will. Please leave the trolling out of the (terrific) feature announcement, and thank you.
  • 51 32
 Having ridden motorcycles for 45 years and just got an EMTB I can tell you that EBikes are not the same as motorcycles. I get the same workout on my ebike as my regular bike just cover more miles to do it.

Glad to hear you are envious of me ;-)
  • 7 10
 They're part of mountain biking in that if they don't cover it them they won't make as much money. Same as pro riders that shoot edits on them. I appreciate that they need to make money, but I'm not gonna watch your crappy moto edit.
  • 10 9
 @MysticMCyclist: I think you people get so defensive about them because you know they're kinda BS. Maybe not all the way BS, but most of the way for sure.
  • 21 15
 @Rucker10: yeah... it's total BS to enjoy yourself outdoors.

The funny thing is that the majority of people who get all worked up about ebikes are the ones who pride themselves on climbing, which interestingly enough, is the part of mountain biking that doesn't actually take riding skill. 1% of climbs take trials skills. the other 99% just take being in shape. Could get that running, road biking, power walking, or swimming, and let the people who have some mountain biking skills, pedal assist or not, ride less crowded trails with less whiners populating them.

Just a thought.
  • 11 9
 @ranke: I mean maybe? Anecdotally that hasn’t been my experience. The handful of Scooter riders I’ve come across are gear collecting people of an obviously affluent nature that wouldn’t try for some back country epic even if they are on an Ebike.

Ultimately y’all can do whatever you want, but you’re still riding a bike with a motor on it, and that’s at least a little bit lame.
  • 15 9
 @Rucker10:
Getting 2-3 times as much dh with a pedal assist is quite the opposite of lame. that's a win for anyone who prioritizes dh.

pedal assist bikes are only lame to those who put value on climbing. i don't.
  • 14 7
 @ranke: Getting more DH is certainly not lame.

Getting it because your bicycle has a motor isn’t the lamest thing I’ve heard today but it’s up there.
  • 10 4
 @ranke: "climbing takes no skill" ROFL WHAT?
  • 3 0
 @ranke: Ah man...being in shape is a valuable skill all by itself.
  • 4 1
 @mtbyoda: oh don't get me wrong. i see the value in being in shape. anything that lets me eat as much ice cream as I want at the age of 47 has value.
  • 5 3
 @Mtmw you're so out of touch with modern mtb eBikes. Have you gone out for proper days riding on one? They handle like DH bikes on the way down, and you don't need a chairlift or shuttle to get back up. They're pedal, not throttle assist. They are speed limited. You can't braap out of corners or up hill. You can ride more trails in the same time. In summary, more riding, more time in the mountains, no trail damage. Armchair critics need to go try one
  • 3 0
 @MysticMCyclist: Exactly. Anyone who has actually spent time on both understand how incredibly different they are.
  • 21 1
 coudnt ya just scroll past the stuff that didnt interest ya. just askin
  • 12 0
 Well then there'd be all that "thinking for yourself" nonsense.
  • 6 3
 They buckled under pressure from both sides, its a good solution and should put an end to the eHaters who are constantly derailing any real conversation or sharing of ideas.
  • 23 6
 E-bike content filtered out. I don't personally think PB should be covering that segment, but just an opinion. Thanks for the filter option.
  • 11 1
 I’m uncomfortable with how polite this comment is. Appreciate the feedback. Smile
  • 2 0
 Seems like the Americans and Canadians have the most issues with ebikes. Europe is much more welcoming.
  • 22 6
 I would like to filter out eMTB content, but how can I read the comments then?
  • 13 0
 Just scroll extra fast. Smile
  • 22 7
 Technically this should be the last time the haters get to voice their opinion. Will it work, or do they actually just enjoy complaining?
  • 36 22
 *pedal assist bikes are part of the fabric of the two wheeled vehicle universe. But they're not mountain bikes.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.
  • 32 16
 Thanks for implementing this! Goodbye moto content!
  • 12 0
 My guess is that almost no one will opt out since one thing Pink Bikers love more than riding two wheels is bitching, judging and being ignorant.
  • 3 1
 Wouldn't have it any other way
  • 15 2
 I for real wouldn’t mind being able to filter out the injury updates...
  • 16 3
 Yes this! I'm not into Fails Friday videos either or similar. I'm quite capable of falling off my own bike and having my own horrific injuries, I don't want or need to see other people's. It's off putting
  • 3 0
 @IllestT: but they’re a good reality checks to counter the prevalent videos showing deities riding LooseFest and the such... I see those and think ‘hey I can do that, probably’ then I end up in a fail video. Some of us need the fail videos to remind us that we still suck. (And I probably still would in an ebike!) They’re a good grounding -to me-
  • 11 1
 Nico Vink does the sickest jumps and manuals of all time and he gets 12 comments. Lets see how many this article gets. This is a window into the minds of people on PB, and when I look in, I see Jealousy.
  • 1 5
flag mtbikeaddict (Jul 23, 2019 at 13:21) (Below Threshold)
 Why the heck would someone be jealous of apathy?
  • 1 0
 I agree, I'm sure most Ebike haters have never ridden an EMTB, or they do not live near big mountains with very steep long vertical climbs or they just want to sound tough, or they just like to complain a lot about nothing, or they are simply jealous and cannot afford one.

I've ridden MotoX and regular pedal bikes (mountain bikes) for years, and I also have a EMTB. It really shows how little most of these ebike haters know when they say a EMTB is a motorbike. There are nothing like a motorbike. EMTB's are a mountain bike with some pedal assist and nothing more. Hopefully these ebike haters will use their ebike filters so we don't have to listen to the garbage coming out of their mouth.

Mountain biking is about having fun, so in reality ebike haters are hating mountain bikers that want to have fun. Can't wait to see what these ebike haters will do when they get a major injury or get older and not as good shape as they claim they will never ride an ebike. I guess the ebike haters will just become couch potatoes wasting away and causing a huge health strain on their local economy...
  • 8 0
 This is a feature that I’ve been waiting for ever since you started covering XC racing. As you said the home page has become really cluttered and the stuff I’m excited to read gets buried in stuff I’m not interested in. Thanks for making this available!
  • 13 4
 Why would you want to filter out DH Racing??
  • 14 1
 I’m really curious to see which filters people use.
  • 14 0
 Slack seat angles, no dropper, only 7 speed and worst of all no bottle mounts! Blasphemy.
  • 15 0
 @brianpark: secretly this is just a masterful way to see what your current audience mountain bike demographic is.
  • 1 0
 some people just don't care about sports. Just because i like to mtb doesn't mean i care at all what pros are doing. I filtered all the racing news so fast.
  • 1 0
 Because they aren't as popular as much as before, in UK anyway. Just 5 years ago if you went to the 'DH' Trails in the UK most would be riding an dh bike. Now, enduro bikes can do these trails just as well, and you can also ride them home and do xc rides on them. I haven't seen a dh bike on the trail for years now.
  • 9 1
 This is a great idea. Thanks Pinkbike.

Can we see the stats to see how many people opted out of each category?
  • 16 1
 Yeah I'll look at doing a report or update in the next month or two.
  • 2 0
 yes! i was just gonna ask for this! i think it will surprise lots of peeps.
  • 4 0
 Yes, thank you Pinkbike. This is a great feature. And I too would be interested in the stats.
  • 6 1
 I guess this won’t apply to the RSS feed, which is a shame as that is how I browse Pinkbike.

The thing I really love(d) about pink bike over other websites is that it is just mountain bikes, no gravel bikes/road bikes/ebikes.

I think GMBN have nailed it by separating ebikes out to a separate channel.
  • 11 6
 So e-bikes damage trails....hmmm..... Im sure Ive seen a lot of conventional bikes damaging trails more with the prediliction for schralping corners and braking in the wrong places. Does an e-bike riding a trail three times damage a trail more than than one run schralping all the corners? p.s. I dont own one, just pointing out the hypocrisy.
  • 5 3
 exactly They have done studies that show that there is very little difference with ebikes, and horses are way worse than bikes and ebikes. also, we have been riding them for almost 2 years and my buddy has a strava log and he says we only go max 2mph faster on our ebikes. fitness makes just as much difference. for example, I lent my out of shape buddy my turbo levo and still kicked his ass. It was a good ride and without the ebike it would have sucked instead we had a great ride.
  • 2 0
 How about an ebike schralping all the corners three times more than a mountain bike? They're not mutually exclusive.

" They have done studies that show that there is very little difference with ebikes"

The IMBA study showed that was little difference when ridden the same amount, I doubt anyone who's buying an ebike to make the climbs easier is only going to do the same number of km as they would have on a mountain bike.
  • 13 9
 How about just linking to electricbikeaction or something? It seems that would be easier for for folks to find resources and articles for their favorite powered two wheeled vehicle, whether it be reviews, races, or areas they could ride that do not impact or threaten mountain biking access, etc.
  • 13 6
 I'm glad we'll get ebike content here now. They're progressing rapidly and am interested in watching them evolve.
  • 6 0
 PB, I'd very much like an option where the page goes to the old format and gets rid of all the eyesore tags. Call it "PB Classic" or whatever.
  • 1 0
 Stay tuned. Smile
  • 7 1
 Fuckin a, man. What a sad state of affairs. PB using resources to solve a problem that you jabronis can solve with your scroll wheel.
  • 1 0
 People helping people - it's powerful stuff.
  • 8 4
 The electric mopeds that most bike companies have started making have done something very interesting to bike sales in my area. Most riders are on Transition here now due to the fact they don't make ebikes. If you want sales from mountain bikers, just don't make ebikes. Unless you want quick money from a different demographic for a fad throwaway product while losing respect as a mtb company.
  • 13 6
 "I didn't sell out, I bought in!"
  • 8 2
 Why do I have to specify gender, birth date and location now? I was fine with y'all just assuming these.
  • 15 9
 You can bet without setting filters to remove it, the floodgates will now open for ebike content.
  • 5 4
 Yep, or if you're not logged in, you're gonna be seeing a lot more...
  • 5 0
 @rippersub: Already seeing the comments reflecting the desire to mod/hack the software and batteries in order to achieve higher speeds and power output - as in the moto world. If trail managers don't address this on multi-use, multi-direction trails soon, I predict negative conflict that will affect anyone enjoying the outdoors on two wheels.
  • 28 23
 Keep the damn electric motorized vehicles off this site and start PinkEbike if you're trying to chase the bucks from their advertising.
  • 4 7
 thats like posting up a billboard at the North Pole or running all the ad's at the end of the TV show....they make money because everyone is forced to see it weather they want to or not...
  • 4 3
 @rippersub: for sure, they'll try to push crappy E-bike ads on us either way. But now that they plan to have "mOaR e-BiKe CoNtEnT!1!!" they can milk even more of that E-bike advertising cash.
  • 21 18
 I like eMTB content, and I'd love for Pinkbike to have a feature to filter out eMTB content - not for myself, but for all the anti-eMTB people that are filled with such anger against eMTBs. Give them the filter so that they can stop seeing eMTB content, which means those who actually like the eMTB content won't have to see all the toxic comments from these ignorant people.
  • 8 3
 I'm fit as a fiddle and more than capable of riding up a hill. But when I've got battery-powered legs I can climb even steeper hills.
  • 9 6
 I’m interested in ebikes, those things are cool! You can di more dh laps per day in areas where is no lift; people have artificial limps and cardiovascular monitors and other enhancements that allows them to leave, why so much have for the pedal assist?
  • 9 2
 For those that are triggered by the mere sight of a pedal assist bicycle.
  • 5 2
 Please Don't Do This! We need all the complaints in the e-moped posts. I met 3 e-bikers last week that don't ride certain places and don't use certain apps because of all the anti-e-bike energy! that is a win ! Slightly more seriously and broadly, we need different opinions and discussion, as ugly and funny as it gets sometimes. If we simply can hit exclude buttons to avoid anything that challenges us then it just creates these entrenched single-minded tribes. Like google and the rest has already done to us in e-space. Pinkbike already excludes just about everything that doesn't involve knobby tires bicycles, so it is not like we have thousands of world news posts to sort through each day.
  • 5 2
 I think the current crop of ebikes is going in the wrong direction. They would be better received if they had less powerful assist/more emphasis on pedalling, longer burn times and lower weights. Positioning them as mountain bikes with a little extra would go over a lot better than the quasi-mopeds they've put out.

I will leave the filter open so that when less toyish ebikes are released I'll actually hear about them.
  • 6 3
 Before, Pinkbike was on mountainbikers' side, against the industry who wanted to push ebikes on trails without concern for the impact on trail access. I'm sure that wasn't an easy position for them to take and I admired it. Now, Pinkbike is on the industry's side. Posting ebike content with mtb content, and hoping that giving individuals an opt-out will reduce the blowback. Definitely transforms how I view the site. So f*ck ebikes still, and f*ck Pinkbike now too.
  • 3 0
 I have to say I am very fat and out of shape. I will not give in to ebikes. Would rather be passed out on the top of the trail tired than be labled a "cheater" but in all seriousniess evokes where I live are only allowed on motorcycle trails. The road ones are allowed as long as they go less than 30mph. After that they are considered motorcycles and not scooters. There is a lot of grey area in colorado springs with them. And they arent allowed 99% of the places I go. I will just die on my analog bike.
  • 7 1
 can we have one to filter out stupid marketing shite like downcountry?
  • 7 2
 I want to filter out reviews of bikes that does not have a water bottle mount.
  • 1 0
 I want the opposite. Zero use for that and if my bike had cage mounts it would bug me like a front derailleur mount.
  • 12 10
 Ah don‘t worry, in Germany e-bikes will soon be forbidden in forests as they are obviously motorised vehicles with potential danger to the environment. Other countries, especially in the eu will follow. Then everyone has to try and sell the worthless e-bikes to people who ride it in the cities for extra comfort. The only thing that is worrying me is the strong lobbyism that companies like Bosch can use to pressure politics.
  • 3 4
 In theory all ebikes are required to have a liability insurance because they are motorized vehicles.

All the bike shop that normally cowardly shut up in case of trail access issues are saying "boohoo it's not ok we want to sell e-bikes without telling people they need and insurance" to the governments. It's pathetic.
As you say, Bosch and mainstream ebike makers are lobbying together extra actively to get a more favorable legislation. At the end of the day, money will decide everything, as always.
  • 2 0
 @zede: just out of curiosity, is there a wattage limit that has to be exceeded before the liability insurance is required in Austria? I know in Western Australia they're limited to 250 watts but curious to see if there's similar limits in other countries.
  • 3 0
 Yeah it’s 250 watts in the UK @Blackers:
  • 6 3
 The fact that PB did this shows how controversial or disliked this topic really is! I just hate when things get pushed into my face by industry. And 'influencer' seem to really be the word of the year
  • 5 0
 Nice feature but I'll leave everything on. I'm up for seeing what's going on across the whole sport if I'm into it or not.
  • 2 0
 Yep;
...less traffic on trails is the key for less impact on flora and fauna and therefor less problems with forest-authorities;
The problem with e-bikes is spending more often time on trails and disturbing the forest; Without of it you and more new trail-users weren't able to do in the same amount of damage. Especially in city-close-trail-networks we're already facing a rising of conflicts.
The ban of motorized vehicles in woods and on trails-networks seems rational to be applied e-bikes these days.
  • 2 0
 Please for the love of god start a Pink-e-bike and save all parties involved. Ebikes are not bikes period. They are motorized vehicles. The problem is the ebike industry trying to hi jack cycling culture. It is not cycling! Cycling is a human powered activity period. End of story.
  • 20 19
 This reads like Pinkbike could no longer resist the products/extra content (and therefore extra money) being thrown at them by bike companies who want to make fat stacks off ebikes. So Pinkbike are proactively putting in a half arse measure to stem the backlash.

If you want to have ebike content go and make a separate website and build up a following there instead of harvesting traffic off your established reader base.
  • 7 5
 it literally doesn't change anything...you cant blame them for wanting to make money....have you ever tried an ebike? they're fun! If you have an electric coffee grinder you have no excuse lol
  • 2 0
 @housem8d: Funny thing is I actually have a hand grinder and cop nearly as much s**t for it as ebikes do!
  • 1 0
 @Hermux: LOOOL
  • 5 0
 Bottle mount comments filter anyone?
  • 3 0
 Can I have one for videos and photos . Same old boring ride vids and shots rider x rides tail x with music x. Zzzzzzzzzzzzz
  • 18 17
 "pedal-assist bikes are part of the fabric of mountain biking now, and it's our job to cover mountain biking."

According to whom? I welcome the exclusion feature but this statement above is still industry/marketing bullshit.
  • 25 16
 Mostly according to the shitloads of eMTB riders you see on the trails now.
  • 3 1
 @brianpark: I haven’t seen any info about the sales figures outside of anecdotal stories from commentators. Maybe I missed something but are there any articles about the numbers of emtb to mtb sold by each brand and the locations where they are selling?

I’ll try to google see if I can find something.
  • 2 1
 @Woehlckabout: well I can tell you that here, half of the bikeshops of the city switched to e-bike shop only.

In ten years, I don't think any bikeshop I'm the city will still sell regular high end mtb.
  • 7 3
 @brianpark: LOL! They're not even 5% in BC.
  • 4 0
 @brianpark: i don't think the retirees on electric bikes at my local trails are reading Pinkbike.
  • 3 0
 @zede: I believe it. They seem to be more popular in Europe than North America.
  • 3 3
 @brianpark: I've seen a total of 2 (being ridden by shifty, guilty-looking deviants)
  • 2 3
 You're so out of touch with modern mtb eBikes. Have you gone out for proper days riding on one? They handle like DH bikes on the way down, and you don't need a chairlift or shuttle to get back up. They're pedal, not throttle assist. They are speed limited. You can't braap out of corners or up hill. You can ride more trails in the same time. In summary, more riding, more time in the mountains, no trail damage, and if you hate on these I hope you put DH bikes or Bikepark riding in the same boat. Armchair critics need to go try one.
  • 4 2
 @boardnz: typical ebike rider comment that refuses to see the problems.

1- Forgetting to mention the speed limit can be removed easily (as any ebike shop will tell you, "I can't do it for you but watch this YouTube video")
2 - this voids your "can't brap uphill" point
3 - ebikes are heavier, go faster uphill, and can be ridden longer = more trail damage.
4 - mountain biking is a philosophy : either you sweat to earn your turns, either you're too lazy/want to ride more/etc and you ride crowded trails in bike parks. (This point is debatable depending on how common/regulated is shuttling in your region)
5 - ebikes will inevitably bring more people, farther, on trails that had less traffic before. This means wherever trail access is a problem, the situation will get worse.
6 - ebikes allow people to do things they could not do before. Which sounds cool but which can also be a problem depending on the people
7 - in cities, ebikes are a problem with people riding over their normal "capabilities". An old guy that rides at 25km/h is a problem when he can't turn his neck to pay attention to the surroundings nor indicate with his arm on which side he is turning.
It's less of a problem if he pedals two times slower because you have the time to see him coming.
  • 1 4
 @zede Refuse to see the problem? I've been riding pedal MTB for 20 f*cking years.

You just want fewer people riding, so you can have the trails to yourself. You sound entitled.

1. It's human nature to push the limits - I know you can hack them and generally, people do it for the road commute access. It eats your battery, puts extra strain on the components & voids your warranty. Personally, I don't see any reason to hack mine.

2. Most people don't hack them for the above reasons. So yes, the majority of eBikes aren't barping uphill.

3. Again more people riding is your issue. The trails are there for riding, eBike or not. More riders more funding, more volunteers, more trails and more regular trail maintenance

4. Entitled opinion. I sweat plenty enough after emptying the battery on my eBike, I just happened to ride 2/3x the distance of my regular bike and get to do it more often. I get to feel more alive, more often - it's f*cking good for the soul escaping the city life - more people should do it, more often.

5. Sweet as, more people riding again

6. Darwinism 101 - you could literally say this about lots of things - horse, car, bike, plane, google maps

7. As above - I guess you want Scooters banned too?

You're talking about the 1%, the world has already gone PC enough.
  • 1 0
 @boardnz: typical, as I said.
I bet you also heli ski and shuttle...

And yeah electric f*cking scooters have nothing to do on the sidewalks, nor on hiking paths
  • 6 2
 Hey Pinkbike, when it comes to ebikes are you going to cover all ebikes or just Class 1?
  • 7 4
 Gtfo of here
  • 2 1
 I'm 53, and can definitely see an e-assist full boinger bike in my future....I recently bought a 2019 GT Sensor 29'er and I actually found myself contemplating "Could this be my last manual mountain bike?" since I tend to keep my bikes for about 5 years or so. I've ridden Trek's newer full boinger e-bike, and it's incredible - even my friends who are skeptics rode it and couldn't wipe the grin off their faces.....they hated to realize that they found that e-bike a lot of fun, which after all, is why I do this sport. I think we'll look back on this 'transitional era' and think "what were we so afraid of?"
  • 1 0
 Ebikes- let the phonies get high on their own supply of $$$$$$$ and just bask in the glory that is decent weights of pedal power bikes nowadays and let them get on with it.

Pathetic I know they are. Yes for those with current disabilities maybe.

Just hoping they are not allowed on the race circuit.

Or am I missing some crucial info :/
  • 1 0
 I'd like to exclude "cycling tips" (roadies stuff). But I don't see that in the setting although there are some news on the homepage (ex: www.pinkbike.com/news/tags/cyclingtips)

It is a filter you will add? (It's not many article a the moment for sure, not significant).
  • 1 0
 The current filtering criteria are way too broad. For instance, I'm not interested in news on the electric parts of an e-moped, but very much interested in "heavy duty" parts (such as rims and hubs) which are marketed for e-mopeds but are compatible with normal MTBs.
  • 1 0
 Its a nice possibility even for a lot of my friends. They hate me for having also ebike thats its not true biking. I hate them for living in the mountains having chairlift behind their house not needing ebike to get on the top of the hill =) =) =) the circle is closed.
  • 2 1
 Just did it, decided to exclude XC and Slopestyle. I save, get back to Pinbike and.... "Final Results: Highland Slopestyle - US Open 2019" Maybe cause it's not tagged as slopestyle but Racing?
  • 3 1
 Yep. That one wasn’t tagged properly. Should be fixed now.
  • 2 1
 Can I just see Women'sXCO. please? Smile
  • 10 6
 E-bike racing LOL!!!! More fake that wrestling!!!
  • 7 7
 Why do I have to login to hide the motorbike content?
I thought that PB was about mountainbikes....

If you jump on the E-Bike wagon, could you please include motocross and enduro too?
Of course with a filter to turn the content off, but they're also bikes!

I'm missing the ad filter, but maybe you just want to get more money from E-Bike companies...
  • 6 5
 OMG I'm so happy for this feature!

Finally free of e-bikes on here which are "taking over MTB" (but only if you believe the Internet hype machines that have vested interest in selling them).
  • 1 0
 I wonder how this will effect your advertising revenue. When all of the US filters out ebike reviews how will you ever convert that market? Cool feature though, it will keep the comment boards a little more positive.
  • 4 2
 If you have a physical malady & a E-bike allows you to ride ... more power to you. If you are able bodied & ride a E-bike you are a lazy bastard.
  • 6 2
 Just call them slow motorcycles. Completely unrelated to mountain biking.
  • 2 0
 Ripping on ebikes in the comments section is the past time of many pinkbike users, not sure why anyone would filter that out.
  • 1 1
 Sorry but it's just ridiculous how much hate I'm reading on Pinkbike these days and YOU Pinkbike are allowing it. It's bike - thing that bring us all here ... It's not your's so wy it's so dramatic? Smile Content should be available for all users. Don't like, don't watch it.
  • 1 1
 I been reading pinkbike since it's inception and being from Burnaby my riding style has always stemmed from the Free Ride movement. So when it comes to articles I'm open to everything yet XC is low on my list. Really I'm all about the tech now and innovation of products and reviews. When it comes to the future it's e-bikes and I'm guessing that more than 50% of bike sold in 2025 will be e-bikes, probably more so. By 2030 with the development and breakthroughs in lightweight, small, long-range batteries you'll see sub 35 lb e-bike dominate more than 80% of the market. I understand the resistance and like 29 inch wheels and many other things along the way it's hard for people to change. Plus bikes have become expensive enough, so adding the outrageous price of e-bikes to the list isn't helping its inception. A lot of people live their life in competition and everything is proving something to themselves where others live it to enjoy and have fun. It's pretty easy to see which ones don't like e-bikes lol The world is changing and ebikes/cars are the future.

In my best John Luke Picard voice I say... Kom killer mode engage!
  • 1 1
 I never plan on owning an e bike, but people need to man up and not click on articles about e bikes just to get mad because it’s about e bikes. The war is on- mtb hipsters here for the “VIBE” and “LIFESTYLE” Vs mtb riders here to have fun and enjoy being outside on a bike.
  • 4 1
 I have been waiting for this feature forever... Nice work...
  • 3 0
 This comment section is going to be chaos tomorrow
  • 25 8
 Looks like you aren't going to have to wait until tomorrow.... P.s. ebikes aren't mtbs
  • 8 7
 @Ozziefish: Exactly. They're Mopeds
  • 6 4
 Can we also filter out dirt jumping and crashing content? Asking for a friend.
  • 4 1
 Can i filter out electronic drivetrains, too?
  • 3 4
 why filter it out ignoring something doesnt make it go away.... if opinions are felt strongly either way continuing to fight it out in the comments is the best way forwards.... eBikes might have there upsides for a select group of riders , butthey allso have various downsides for trail erosion , etc.. as someone who when going trail riding or XC normally jumps on the single speed maybe we should just get fitter (and yes i have a desk job i really dont get that argument) but then again if im old or injured an ebike would be great. but i will not be filtering it out or ignoring it haha.
  • 1 1
 Trail erosion. Hah. Wanker.
  • 1 2
 Great idea, i immidately set Block eMTB, happy now i can choose the stuff i'm not interested in is not taking precious News space....

@pinkbike: can you enable Dashboard filter to NOT show the RAINBOW stuff below headlines, they are just distracting and not helpfull at all. Its like putting meta information after every paragraph in book... why would i look at that?
  • 2 0
 The dev team is working on it!
  • 1 0
 Thank you Pinkbike for the filter options. Its nice to be able to refine our viewing to the topics that interest us, for those who want it.
  • 5 2
 I just threw my pinkbike t-shirt away. I'm ashamed of it.
  • 10 10
 Ebikes are for lazy hacks and those who have little to no bike handleing skills. All this is going to do is make trail aceess that much harder because THEY ARE MOTORIZED VEHICLES.
  • 4 0
 So long slopestyle
  • 1 0
 Great idea - love it ! Tuned out enduro xc and E-Bikes - love the option to select the news prefference ! Kudos Pinkbike, you're pretty great sometimes.
  • 2 0
 That's all fine and dandy but when will the option to filter 650b/29er content become available?
  • 2 0
 how am I supposed to shit on ebikes in the comments if I dont see the articles hahah
  • 2 1
 Yes! Now everybody can bring joy to this forum. Some when they post, some when they exclude categories.
  • 4 2
 Tbh I’m likely going to be filtering out sloppy-style
  • 13 15
 However, if you're not logged in, or on mobile, you're going to see MORE e-bike content, I assume?

For those that use private browsing and log-in only when wanting to comment, or check mail etc, this is a very bad thing.

If this was truly as innocent as it seems, why not make the "default" e-bike setting "off" - and users have to log in, and de-select the filter in order to see content?
  • 10 8
 If you’re on mobile the filter will work properly, you just have to set it on desktop. But yes, we will run the eMTB content we create globally now, and let people make their own decisions.
  • 7 14
flag rippersub (Jul 22, 2019 at 22:58) (Below Threshold)
 @brianpark: and people that browse without logging in, will see more content than before?
  • 11 3
 @rippersub: so log in then .... what is the problem?
  • 8 1
 @MysticMCyclist: needs to find a reason to hate. Give him a minute he'll think of something.
  • 1 1
 @brianpark: lazy coding
  • 2 0
 If we choose all filter options is there even anything left to read?
  • 1 0
 Yeah..ads..
  • 2 1
 Can we get a filter to remove basic press announcements and sponsored posts?
  • 6 5
 Can we filter out Americans upset about there being no EWS or DHWC in America?
  • 6 4
 Can we filter out upset Americans?
  • 7 2
 @Obidog: There'd be non left.
  • 3 0
 @Obidog: hey!
  • 6 1
 @fatduke @obidog There is an EWS race at Northstar in California next month you blithering daft nincompoops!!!!!!!!
  • 3 0
 @endlessblockades upvote for the use of blithering.
  • 4 1
 Can we filter out pompous Brits? Wink
  • 4 0
 @mtbikeaddict: That would be road cyclists............................................kidding.
  • 2 0
 @fatduke: haha all in good fun
  • 7 9
 My prediction is there will be 20 snow flakes that opt of of emtb content only because they have no self control and can't understand why everyone doesn't think like them because they are clearly motorbikes used only by fat people who are forced to spend thousands of dollars on them by marketing departments.

Narrator: He typed this after quickly realising that this may be his last chance to see people so passionately triggered by the topic and as he smiled he hit submit, reclined, then grabbed his popcorn.
  • 3 2
 I'm still seeing the Cannondale Moterra article even though I opted out of ebike
  • 1 0
 Anyone else? It seems to be working properly for us. Are you logged in?
  • 2 0
 @brianpark: It disappeared for me! Adios CannondalE
  • 1 0
 Doesn't seem to be filtering anything on my computer. Still get same content, no matter what I clicked to filter and save.
  • 3 2
 Keep making E-Bike content and forget about filters, filters are for pussies.
  • 12 5
 So filters are like e-bikes ?
  • 2 0
 Any chance we can get one RSS Feed per news category?
  • 4 4
 Yes Pink Bike please cave in to the gready bike industry . Lower your standards to a deep ditch. Swim in that filth. Hope it makes you rich.
  • 2 0
 Nice to have the choice, thanks pinkbike ????
  • 3 2
 Filter E-MTB related posts is pretty easy: exclude all North American IP adresses. Only Euros should access the posts.
  • 4 2
 Motorcycles, what's the difference?
  • 1 0
 I support this. DH and Enduro stuff please. Slopestyle and XC articles give me scrolling fatigue
  • 1 0
 Will you show any stats on percentage of viewers opting out of certain content?
  • 1 0
 Hey, @brianpark: The real filter that needs to be added is turning off the comments section. That would be sweet.
  • 1 0
 Its not necessarily disciplines of biking i wish i could filter, but the product reviews that i dont care for.
  • 1 0
 I’ve turned the filter on for XC Racing content but I’m still getting some XC racing news from the World Cups.
  • 1 0
 @brianpark any interest in adding a bikepacking section to the photo categories?
  • 1 0
 Ebike pinkbike comments are the best entertainment around, why would anyone want to filter that out???
  • 1 0
 and what about road content? this is the only thing i dont want t o see here .
  • 3 2
 Good work! Thanks for eeb rything
  • 32 34
 Brian, what would you recommend for someone who wants to negatively impact eBike sales.

Leave the filters open and spam the comments like I usually do or turn off the eBike filter?
  • 19 2
 The best way is to completely ignore ebike content. Pinkbike earns on your views and comments, even when trolling you show that it's worth for them to cover ebikes. Ignore it and let the mother nature decide.
  • 17 5
 You are living in dreamland if you think your vomments and opioions have any impact on bike sales :-)

Unless your comment was ironic rather than moronic of course.
  • 3 2
 Type in e bikes to google and fucken hate click all the ad words listings to make those fuckers pay!!! Saturday night fun!
  • 2 2
 @MysticMCyclist: Oh I know they do.
  • 5 0
 Develop an EMP device.
  • 5 5
 Thanks! Cool feature!! Though people are going to turn it off just to search and post about how much they hate e-bikes... Smile
  • 3 1
 APRIL FOO oh wait
  • 5 4
 eMTB excluded Smile thanks PB
  • 15 18
 Amazing all the e-mtb hate coming from what seems to be just Americans. Maybe it’s the influence of your president to be so divisive.

Live and let live.......or take a trip to Europe where we generally co-exist peacefully on mtbs, e-mtbs, and even with hikers Smile
  • 14 2
 Not true. It's a shit show, and the vast majority of e-bikers does not have an insurance like required by EU for all motorized vehicle, the cohabitation is peaceful only because most e-mtb sticks to the fireroads and because almost no incident occurred on the trails. In the city it's a mess, there are accidents every weeks

In bikeparks it is already a problem that people can repetitively lap the trails without paying for the lifts, and the only solution they have found is to rent the E-bikes for more € than real mtb.

Also ebikers seem to struggle to understand that nobody going uphill by foot or by bike will give them the priority when they also go up.
  • 1 1
 mh731
well said! 100%
  • 1 0
 What do you stand for if you’re different for everyone?
  • 9 9
 Pinkbike attempts to create a safe space for fat out of shape riders... the world is a sad place #moped
  • 1 0
 Nailed it!
  • 1 0
 Where s the Danny Hart Button?
  • 1 1
 Who do we even bother discussing technical climbing when there are e-bikes and FLOW TRAILS?
  • 1 0
 More importantly ... why did all my regional stuff go away?!
  • 2 3
 I can filter my PB feed, but no such luck on Facebook. My first e-bike article popped up on my news feed. Consider yourself unliked/unfollowed!
  • 4 7
 stop for 1 second, i dare you to try an emtb and not finding this fun! there is a lot of fun, stop hate and stop your inner competition. stop thinking it is just cheating, there is no throttle, still needs 2 legs, even if not in perfect shape like mine!! thank you emtb, thank you for giving me and us all this fun. we need more nd more EMTB
  • 2 3
 Plenty of people I know have ridden ebikes and not had any more, or even less fun, than a mountain bike. It's a stupid argument in the first place and doesn't hold any water.
  • 1 0
 Pornhub needs a content filter like this.
  • 1 0
 Their family members in the crowd must be so proud....
  • 1 1
 How about a filter that just turns off all the miserable, moaning ebike haters. Permanently. That would be much better.
  • 1 0
 I'll keep the eMTB filter off so I can comment on how shit e bikes are.
  • 1 0
 Please add Beta to the filter list.
  • 13 13
 I love eBike content! Just sayin
  • 3 3
 Excluded eMTB, Enduro and XC Only DH and Slopestyle left Ah...SO GOOD
  • 2 1
 Stoked,thank you pb
  • 17 17
 Call ebikes what they are - MOPEDS.
  • 5 3
 Close, but technically a moped has an automatic transmission.
  • 5 1
 @DDoc: So it's a moped with a manual transmission. Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck. it's a duck or in this case the continued dumbing down of the sport in order to make more $$$$
  • 1 3
 I like ebikes for DH if you don't have access to lifts or have some sort of condition. Won't replace my single track shredding spark though. I have no excuse to be lazy.
  • 1 3
 Only 20% of the population like craft beer, so don't expect the majority of people to get behind ebikes for the same reasons.
  • 1 0
 Ebikes*
  • 1 1
 I'm blocking everything but Ebikes, lol.
  • 1 1
 Ebikes rock, mountain bike not mountain hike ⚡️????????
  • 1 0
 E Bikes are soo
  • 1 1
 4 of 5, good idea!
  • 2 2
 analog bikes suck.
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