Podcast: Fabien Barel Talks Mullet Bikes, Tyre Inserts, Data Acquisition and More

May 7, 2020
by Downtime Podcast  
Photo - Boris Beyer

Words Chris Hall : Photo Boris Beyer

It took us a while, but here is the part two to my conversation with Fabien Barel (listen to part one here). Last time we spoke we covered the more emotional and psychological side of mountain biking, so this time I thought we should get technical. Fabien has always been a rider who likes to get into the detail of things, and so when you ask his opinion on something, you know that it’s been well researched and thought out. We talk about how far ahead of the game they were with the Sunn team in the 90s, and why that level of technological progression wasn’t seen for a while during the 2000s. We get Fabien’s thoughts on longer geometry, mixed wheel size bikes, and tyre insert too. So if you want some technical insight then you need to hit play below and give this episode a listen.


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40 Comments

  • 11 0
 But honestly when I see the people on my local trails, most of them are having issues with cornering and not with keeping the bike in a straigt line over roots and rocks. However they always seek for longer bikes. I can see this myself, when I am taking my XL YT tues (that I really enjoy for bikepark and downhill racetracks) on the local trails: I am only focussed on cornering. The stuff in between the courners gets sucked up by the suspension and is kinda boring, since the bikes does everything and I am not coming out of the corner fast enough that it could be challenging. I would never wan't my enduro bike to be like that. Why buy a super long bike and then cut the corners because they are too tight?!
  • 10 8
 Most people would benefits from a skills class then any change in geometry. Long bikes corner just fine but you have to change the way you ride said bike. More centered and you drift the back wheel around the corners moto style.
  • 3 2
 @SintraFreeride: exactly, that's also preferences. Getting a bike longer doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing for cornering, you just need to use it differently
www.instagram.com/p/B-fZylQnOIk/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
I'm also getting more reach, not because of straight stability but to better keep my body position more consistent in each turn rather than fighting to keep it. I used to always feel collapsing on my bar when braking for the lack of reach or losing front grip if I charge the back too much instead.
  • 10 2
 @SintraFreeride: Long bikes are boring in corners. Don't leave that out. Unless you want to be Mr. Muscle or Mr. Plan Ahead.

If you want to be Mr. Bob & Weave & Whip & Slip, long is for racing World Cup tracks.
I don't have a lot of time to ride & when I do, I'm not interested in strava lines. I want to find every single feature I can to get stupid on.

Long bikes are an option...not an answer.
  • 2 0
 @qblambda: I also like a longer reach for the reason you stated. Going to a shorter bike feels like I have less room to move around and under heavy braking that feeling of collapsing on your bar or going over the front is because your arms tend to be more perpendicular to the ground.
  • 4 1
 @blowmyfuse: I actually find long bikes way more fun in the corners. The feeling of drifting the back end around a tight corner and/or hitting a berm is awesome. I don't like to cut corners and I agree strava straightlines are boring AF. I have found through experience that long bikes just work better everywhere for me. The exception being manually but I don't mind giving that up if I can have more control on rough sections, a bike that is less likely to wheelie when going up steep terrain and just drifts effortlessly!
  • 10 0
 Top work @downtimepodcast. What a legend
  • 6 0
 Thanks mate, can't argue that Fabien is a legend of the sport!
  • 5 0
 Thanks for sharing this @pinkbike I hope everyone enjoys some tech chat with Fab!
  • 2 0
 The first episode with Fabien was one of my favourites, he's genuinely inspiring
  • 1 0
 @blackpudding: Thanks, I hope you enjoy this one too!
  • 6 0
 Fabien Barel! Definitely going to listen to this one!
  • 7 0
 Always worth listening to Fabien!
  • 4 0
 So I have to reconsider my current new bike project for mullet style as I am "only" 180 cm. Doesn't make it easier but thank you Fabien for the input.

#trustfabien
  • 5 0
 @downtimepodcast I definitely want to hear a full hour of cockpit setup with Fabien. Make it happen!
  • 4 0
 I'm keen!
  • 3 0
 Cushcore, XC tires, carbon rims. Sick setup. So supple. At 180 i can run 6.9psi R/4.20 up front. Now I can schralp sick gnar so rad. Beat Rude’s times on strava all day, but my phone keeps glitching.
  • 3 0
 Just wanted to say that the interviewer did a stellar job. Didn’t dominate the conversation, asked intelligent questions, and basically let the interviewee do his job. Excellent all around. Looking forward to the next one.
  • 1 0
 Thanks @joeadnan that's really kind! There are plenty more episodes over on my website if you've not listened to those. www.downtimepodcast.com Otherwise there is a new episode dropping every week.
  • 4 0
 Troy Brosnan on a full 29er?! Thats a spoiler
  • 6 2
 I have always said tyre inserts were snake oil.

#trustfabien
  • 3 3
 But his argument doesn't make any sense. First of all, he is only focusing on the wheel, tire protection of the tire inserts. And secondly, he is advocating heavier casing vs tire inserts because of the weight. But the difference in the EXO VS DD casing is exactly one CushCore...
  • 2 9
flag Janker79 (May 7, 2020 at 6:04) (Below Threshold)
 @s-master: Tyre inserts exists only because of carbon rims.
  • 4 1
 @Janker79: I broke lots of alloy rims I'm yet to break my carbon rims
  • 1 1
 @s-master: exo vs DH maybe, cushcore is almost 300gr/wheel for a 29"
  • 4 0
 @ybsurf: same here... running @WeAreOne and I've had exactly zero issues!
  • 3 0
 @s-master: the rocks where I live slash EXO and often DD.
  • 2 0
 @downtimepodcast: we are one for me as well what else to ride... ;-)
  • 5 1
 @Janker79: I'm currently loving running my lighterweight alloy (w/CC) rims from my SB100 on my friends borrowed SB130. I wouldn't ride any wheel anywhere without cushcore in the rear at least. And @s-master is exactly right. I'll take the suppleness, traction and superior grip of a EXO casing with Cushcore every day. CC+EXO is exactly the weight of a DD tire. I wasn't sure how things would feel getting smashy on the little 100, but my wheels are still perfect 1000 miles & 6 mo later. Though I did kill the SC34... Just got it back yesterday with a new CSU. I'm kinda sad having to give the 130 back.
  • 1 0
 @ybsurf: for sure. I just got a set of Factions for my new bike and I can't wait to ride them!
  • 2 0
 @ybsurf: So you're not using tyre inserts on your carbon rims?? ;-))
Nowadays carbon rims seem finally reliable (couple of brands) but you also have a lot less dents on alloy too.... So the point was really that you don't save any weight on the wheel using inserts. Quite the opposite so I'm also with Fabien and use tougher casing and save the money/worry about one thing less.
  • 2 1
 @Janker79: I ran my @WeAreOne Agents without inserts for a year. Now I have CushCore in, not for the protection of the rim, but because I personally like the other benefits they provide.
  • 2 0
 @Grosey: the same over here in the Alps. For me Super Gravity compound is really the best compromise
  • 2 0
 More than 50 fractures during his biking career. Makes me think what other job would one accept where one or two broken bones per year is normal.
  • 1 0
 ha ha, very true!!
  • 2 1
 Did he really say if you're under 6'3" tall you shouldn't be on a 29er? Did I hear that correctly? If so, the bike industry definitely didn't get that memo.
  • 1 1
 Interesting, thanks for this! I've been tempted to put a 29" front end on my Canyon Torque. I'm not a tall guy and a 27.5 on the back feels perfect to me.
  • 1 0
 Fascinating...so when is the first mullet DH bike coming out?

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