Words Chris Hall: Photo Jim Topliss
This week we are sitting down with Sam Dale. Sam is a super interesting guy who worked his way up from privateer to full pro-team support, took a World Cup podium and a load of other top results, but decided that pro-team life wasn’t right for him. Sam re-focussed and is now riding and racing in the way he wants to… so we sat down outside his van in the Fort William evening sun (yes there was some sun!) and chatted about what he’s learned along the way.
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Very few mammals are solely herbivore. There's even footage of mice eating chicks from nests.
I wonder where he stands on eating insects. I get the whole argument about the unsustainability of eating beef but eating insects is still eating an animal and they are amongst the most sustainable cheapest ways of farming protein. In a few years I bet locust protein burgers will be mainstream.
Also if you could make dairy products from human milk then would that be acceptable to vegans? We are mammals (mammalian glands produce milk and is essential to our well being) seems short sighted to cut it out so could there be a market for people who love cheese, yogurt, ice cream etc but who are vegans to get their source from human milk?
Ok I'm pushing the points a bit far but I'm seriously interested.
Yeah I'm in favour of a mainly vegetarian diet but couldn't go vegan . As I'd miss fish/dairy.
Thanks for responding and not being sensible about it as I'm seriously interested.
This is something I don't understand the rationale behind.
I am interested to hear the explanation from someone who subscribes to this school of thought.
The first one was when I was working in a juice bar in Sydney that also sold food. A customer came in and looked at the salads. There was chicken pasta salad, tuna pasta salad, Greek salad or chicken Caesar salad. He looked at them and started umming and arring, and grumbling that he can hoped there would be more vegetarian options. I was like yeah mate hard luck, I guess it's Greek or nothing for you then. Then he ordered a tuna pasta salad. I was like, you know tuna is a fish right? That's a kind of animal. He said no, that's seafood. I couldn't believe it at the time, and I still can't to be honest. What is it about fish that makes them not qualify as animals?
I really want to know!
Personally, I eat fish but not beef or pork because it doesn't carry as massive a carbon footprint. It's easier to eat fish responsibly, granted there's issues with farm raised, wild caught, heavy metals, etc. Occasional fish provides many nutrients that can sometimes be hard to come by with a plant based diet and avoids some of the problems associated with eating other meats. I see your point if someone claims to be an "ethical" vegan or vegetarian though and then turns around and dismisses fish. That's just ignorance of the animal kingdom.
Do wild animals, and especially fish, not suffer in the same way when killed and eaten?
There is plenty of studies which proves their suffering as we do (mammals)
Fish runs free into the ocean, that's big improvement. Their counsciousness is much lower than mamalian seems with much collective mind. And the fact they are on salt cleanses the bad energy/emotions all the time... Again prove yourself if you are into bad energy/mood to take bath on sea...
But yes the best is to not harm any living being and it's free will.
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