Pole's Evolink Undergoes Updates for Its Five Year Anniversary - Pond Beaver 2021

Apr 9, 2021
by Henry Quinney  

Five years ago, Pole were not nearly as well known as they are today. They started as a brand that wanted to challenge convention and push geometry forward. The Evolink was released and, it could well be said, the Finnish brand gave "considered thinking" something of a kick up the posterior. You might have heard of "long, low and slack," well this was of course being said before Pole. However, the Evolink was one of the first to also throw "steep seat tubes" into that maxim.

Due to the fact that the Evolink was so ahead of the curve in terms of its geometry, this update should be seen as more of a facelift than a page one re-write. A bit of nip and tuck to keep up with the Jones'. Better yet, Pole manage to do this and make the changes they want without isolating current Evolink owners.

The new Evolink 1.4 retains the same 64.5° head angle but sees the seat tube steepened to an effective angle of 79.9°. The chassis essentially remains unchanged so you'll be seeing very familiar numbers; the 497mm reach, 1301mm wheel base, in what was known as the medium size, and the 29 inch wheels front and back. A small difference you might notice is that the 1.4 moves away from internal routing completely.

The Evolink 1.4 sees Pole step away from S/M/L/XL sizes. No dodgy jokes, please.

There is a small shakeup in terms of how Pole size these bikes, with the conventional sizes replaced by K1, K2, K3 and K4. This is something you might have seen with other brands. It essentially tries to emphasize the subjective nature of bike fit and how it's a combination of stature and style.

As you can see, gone are the windows for internal routing to give a much cleaner look.
The bottom bracket height also increases from -20mm to -3mm but the overall stack height decreases across all sizes. As you can imagine, the two often work inversely to one another. Similarly, increasing BB height, much like changing stack height, will also have a small effect on reach, although often only slight. The consequence of the increase in BB height is a bike that is more responsive to rider input and will help ease the bike into bunny hops or manuals with less effort.

Pole feel that the biggest change with the revised Evolink is the increased progression in the leverage ratio.The mid-stroke, the point at which a rider spends most of their time riding, is now set at an average leverage ratio of 2.67 compared with the
2.52 of the previous Evolink 140 model. That equates to a 9% more progressive leverage ratio and in turn 18% more anti-squat.

Along with a host of specification updates, the frames and complete bikes will feature metric shocks across the whole Evolink 1.4 range which will deliver 144mm travel to the rear end of the bike.

Pole admit to coming across the benefits of running a metric shock by happy coincidence. Leo Kokkenen of Pole said “We had a bit of luck with this one. With the simple addition of a 55mm metric shock, we’ve managed to update an already classic bike. Previously we didn't want to raise the BB too much without a proof of concept. During testing with another prototype, we discovered that the long and slack geo benefits from an even higher BB. The fundamental issue with the discussion around BB height is the same reason why bikes were so steep in the first place: engineers stuck to the old measurement from the ground to BB using 26" wheels.”
An increase in average progression, as well as a larger value of anti-squat, should ensure more support, both towards the end of the stroke, meaning you could run a lower spring rate, and as an increased pedalling platform.

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The Evolink 1.4 will be available as either a frameset only option or a complete build. The frameset will have the choice of three shock options, and will be outfitted with a Cane Creek headset and a seat clamp starting from €1690.

A Super Limited Stock Custom build will also be available. It will feature a Rock Shox Lyrik Select RC fork and a SRAM GX Eagle drivetrain and will retail for €4450.

If you're a current Evolink 140 V1.3 owner and wish to upgrade your current setup to the 1.4 then Pole will be offering update kits. These kits will consist of headset cups, that will be manufactured in house in Finland, and your choice of a Cane Creek or RockShox metric shock, which will include any relevant hardware.

Due to ongoing industry shortages and backlogs with components, numbers of frames and complete bikes are strictly limited on the pre-sale shipment and may well indeed not be available for very long. Although, the estimated availability and shipping times for framesets and builds will be as early as June 2021.

Pre-orders for the new Evolink 1.4 framesets and Stock Custom builds are now open at polebicycles.com

Pond Beaver 2021





235 Comments

  • 295 7
 Not exactly easy on the eyes
  • 27 0
 Odd. I found the last generation to be very pretty. Funny how minor tweaks make it kinda wonky looking.
  • 191 2
 Pole, proudly designed by engineers and engineered by designers.
  • 11 9
 @Gamsjaga: Not all designers have talent. Point made in photos above.
  • 39 0
 looks like they hucked to flat in the saddle and it bent.
  • 16 8
 @Gamsjaga: that’s... that’s genius... I am working a lot with engineers from Finland, I need to tell them this Big Grin
  • 15 4
 Hey, take it easy... This frame looks cracking good!
  • 3 0
 They might get it right on the tenth anniversary!!!!!
  • 2 0
 I couldn't find better words to describe it. I must focus to process the image ...
  • 3 0
 Yeah that seat tube looks terrible...
  • 3 4
 @mybaben: even Joe from Starling cycles is probably going: Erm the design is far less relevant than form and construct... oh for fks sake!
  • 1 0
 I wish I could give you more up votes. Well played Sir.
  • 3 1
 How can one company design both one of the sexiest and ugliest frames?
  • 10 0
 At first glance I swear I've seen this bike at Walmart.
  • 2 0
 Rubs eyes....april 1....?......nope....
  • 2 1
 @justwaki: I also work with Finnish engineers. Their usual answer is "yes we can prrroduce". Often they can't, at least not according to spec.
  • 1 2
 @Vindiu: I am further away from the effects of their work. When they mess up it is not my problem. But they are willing to cooperate and make changes. I am speaking of Civil engineering. Polish engineers I worked with say no before they even look whether it would work or not. Their horrific education regime mobs them into working with most basic solutions possible. The ones I studied with studied harder than Swedish ones yet their professors taught them to always go for shortest spans with tall profiles. Anything else (save industrial buildings) is meaningless drivel of architects whose sole intention is to make things more complicated than it needs to be. Swedish engineers are more flexible even with concrete. But so far Finns are most open minded and are always clear on what is possible and what isn’t.
  • 1 0
 @justwaki: Tell me this is the real Waki?
  • 1 1
 @cycling-jokester: no. Real Waki is a loser, utter clown and a wanker.
  • 3 1
 @justwaki: IDK....there are those of us that miss his comments. Politically correct...no.
Insensitive...yes. Argumentative...yes. Criminal...possibly.

Entertaining...often.
  • 140 0
 Doesn't look like a session
  • 6 0
 idk man
  • 8 0
 It's a possession Wink
  • 117 3
 Looks like something from 2001
  • 9 2
 My thoughts exactly.
  • 5 1
 You're kind
  • 82 5
 "A medium sized man...isn't gettin' bigger. So why's his reach gettin' bigger?"

-Sam Hill
  • 25 6
 Because we ain’t Sam Hill. I’m just glad bikes are big enough for us taller folks these last couple years.
  • 20 17
 Yeah, it’s strange, isn’t it? The average man also still has the same shoulder width, and still somehow we are now riding 800mm handle bars, where 580mm used to do the job... good old times - not.
  • 7 0
 Theres been bikes available for years that adults who are 5' tall can ride comfortably. Nobody has ever said 'why are bikes getting shorter? But as soon as bikes start growing everyone is up in arms lol
  • 25 1
 Because the seat tube moved forward. It's not that hard to understand.
  • 7 0
 @alexsin: And stems are getting shorter.
  • 6 0
 @FuzzyL: because 760mm bars are better than 580. 65 HA is also better than 70.
  • 2 0
 Evolutionary we are getting taller !
  • 4 10
flag justwaki (Apr 9, 2021 at 13:01) (Below Threshold)
 Because medium sized mans seat angle is getting steeper, get that foot out Sam and keep those mad focused eyes on the prize. Leave details to internet warriors and it will be mega. Oh... keep trolling team speculations. That was good!
  • 3 1
 @justwaki: no drinking while typing
  • 5 13
flag justwaki (Apr 9, 2021 at 13:16) (Below Threshold)
 @hamncheez: you see when I wrote my best piece "if I go to the woods and poop around the place will magic mushrooms grow out of it?", I wasn't educated. Those that grow in the woods don't grow on poop, and those that grow on poop can grow only on poop of grass grazing animals because grass retains water better and spores are more likely to be consumed with grass than on pizza and bacon...
  • 7 0
 If the reach is too big, just buy a smaller bike.
  • 2 0
 @Matt115lamb: I am not tho ! Stop none-evolutioning-blaming me !
  • 67 4
 "Five years ago, Pole were not nearly as well known as they are today."

Today, they're known for bad customer service and flimsy frames.
  • 34 0
 Pole is living proof that there is in fact such a thing as bad press.
  • 19 9
 Everyone likes to crap on whats his name, but he single handedly changed the bike industry. Chris Porter had been doing the low and slack geometry thing for a few years but no one noticed and it didn't move the needle. It was Pole that got everyones attention, for whatever reason.
  • 25 3
 @hamncheez: porters/Nicolai bikes rarely if ever have customer complaints . Pole got attention because Leo is an attention whore. And... his bikes are aptly named after a dick.
  • 13 0
 @hamncheez: Interesting that it seems that way from your POV, over here Chris Porter is (rightly or wrongly) kind-of synonymous with progressive geometry - and Pole haven't made nearly so much impact.
  • 5 1
 @scary1: and has the worst customer service/warranty.
  • 9 0
 Yeah not every company has a manager that likes to jump on twitter to personally insult angry customers who just want their warranty replacement...
  • 2 7
flag bbc611 (Apr 9, 2021 at 13:14) (Below Threshold)
 @scary1: the name "pole" is in finnish... as it's a Finnish company your attention where statement is stupid you have to be known to sell bikes! It's just unfortunate alot of what they are known for is poor costomer service because the bike ride amazing
  • 5 0
 @hamncheez: Its true. Every other bike manufacturer comes out with a new frame every year that is longer, lower, and slacker. Pole just skipped a few generations.
  • 3 0
 @TwoHumanPower: what does the frame look like after?
  • 1 0
 @bbc611: reeeaaally?? Wow. I bet nobody knew that! ( is this sarcasm obvious enough?)
  • 3 3
 @jaydawg69:

According to Leigh, perfectly fine. That actual frame is also what he raced enduro on.

Funny how people make a big deal of Pole frames braking after the PB test and one other forum post, meanwhile Yetis develop cracks all the time with forum posts full of them, and nobody makes a deal out of it.

Really makes you think...
  • 2 2
 @TwoHumanPower: you forgot about the customer service issues and Leo's ego.
  • 3 4
 @jaydawg69: Small botique company flooded with orders with supply chain taking a dump is bound to have CS issues. YT has had them for years before they set up distribution in US, still doesn't stop people from buying their bikes.

As for the image of the CEO, its really just PB commenters that love to shit on people to score some woke points, like they are some represetnatives of the sport. Same people shit on Emily Batty who wasn't "pure" enough because she is sponsored by Porsche.

People who care more about riding and can afford those bikes literally could give 2 shits less, because they realize that not buying something for personal enjoyment and instead grandstanding to some randoms on the internet about not supporting some company is the saddest thing one can possibly do.
  • 1 0
 @TwoHumanPower: Yes and no. People still hate on YT for their problems. By all accounts, Pole is worse, with people ordering frames (pre pandemic) and after a year of nothing, having to use paypal to get their money back.


Chris Porter has been pushing geometry boundaries for a while, and while local to his community he has opened peoples minds, he didn't move the needle. Its pretty clear that the Stumpjumper Evo experiment that Specialized did was in response to Pole, and after the success of that bike and geometry philosophy, all of Specialized entire lineup now has geometry that would have been considered ridiculous only 5 years ago. its mostly the same story with the other major brands.
  • 54 0
 I would like to POLE-itely say that is bike is very unattractive...
  • 4 2
 I wonder if they could evo-LINK us to some eyewash
  • 9 0
 It sort of looks like it was left on a roof rack and driven into a garage.
  • 5 8
 Thats Pole for you. Designed by engineers and engineered by designers...
  • 7 0
 @BenTheSwabian: Hey that's my line. Smile
  • 2 1
 Also, I'm surprised no one has pointed out that this design is very POLE-arizing.
  • 1 0
 @Gamsjaga: I've definitley heard this line used here and in other forums in regards to Pole before though. Was that you every time? Big Grin (insert the "always has been"-meme here)
  • 50 0
 Seat tube looks ridiculous
  • 8 0
 it has to be with a 497mm reach in size medium
  • 3 1
 Comedy seat tube
  • 1 2
 Yea it gives me anxiety and back pain
  • 4 0
 Looks like it maxes out at a 125mm dropper.
  • 42 3
 We ran out of existing shocks and didn’t want to redesign for metric so you get 17mm higher bottom bracket but we’ll tell you it is because it works better. BS
  • 6 0
 Transparently bull crap. And really how hard could it have been to move the shock mount while they were adjusting the STA?
  • 18 0
 @AndrewHornor: my guess is they didn't change the STA. All the differences we see are simply the result of a longer shock. That's why the bikes have an angle headset to keep the same head angle
  • 8 0
 @Arierep: oh yeah I totally missed that, good call

So they literally just removed the internal routing and are calling it a new frame. Wow.
  • 10 1
 @Arierep: Ha, wtf... if your bike has to come stock with an angle headset... you've done something horribly wrong.
  • 9 0
 Did they let a cube designer at it? -3mm bb drop on a 29er is going to ride like shit.
  • 7 0
 I’m kind of disappointed at Pinkbike for not at least asking Pole about this, it does very much seem to be the case that they’ve just shoved a longer shock on.
  • 3 3
 @islandforlife: The angle headset is for converting the current evolink 1.3 to the same geometry as the new 1.4. You just need to buy the metric shock and angle headset. The new 1.4 evolink frame does not need an angle headset.
  • 3 0
 @johndoh: Then why is it on the bike in all the product pics of the new 1.4?
  • 4 0
 @johndoh: AFAIK, nowhere in the article is mentioned that the presented bike is a 1.3 with some kit. They are announcing the 1.4, and the bike in the pics has an angleset
  • 5 2
 Actually, the angleset is for existing 1.3 frames. The new frames are new frames with a different head tube. Pole evolink and it's by far the best bike purchase I've ever made. I'm happy they are enabling me to use metric shocks as I'd like to try coil and the options are getting thin...
  • 2 0
 @rob-chambo: then why does the photo of the 1.4 have an agle set
  • 2 2
 @hamncheez: I think this is a pre-production example, I watched Leo explain it on instagram I think. Don't ask me why! If I'd have been them, I'd have announced it without a frame or with the actual new bike.
  • 6 0
 @rob-chambo: Impossible! Since when did Pole rush any pre-production sample to the press?
  • 3 0
 @rob-chambo: Funny how you describe this as a fact, actually. When Leo himself explains in the video that 1.4 does indeed come with angleset. only that its not removable but fixed permanently
  • 2 0
 @rob-chambo: Sorry mate, but I don't see that clearly stated anywhere. All the available information points for the angleset 1.4
  • 1 1
 @tedchalk: Maybe I'm wrong then?
What I think is clear is that it's not clear.
  • 1 0
 @rob-chambo: it's precisely clear
  • 1 4
 @hamncheez: Does it really matter if the production bikes is supplied with the angle set as well? The performance is what matters in the end, at least on my books.

Besides that, making even a small change on existing frames drawings and manufacturing process is a lot more involved process than many think.
  • 7 0
 @jukka4130: For me at least, it matters the lack of transparency. These guys have a reputation to rebuild.

In my view, it would have been perfectly OK to announce this candidly "we decided to adapt the Evolink to metric shocks which results in what we perceive as these positive changes and is a cost effective way to keep the "tried and true" frame current".

And many of us bashing on them are aware that most structural modifications to a frame require new tooling, prototyping, pre runs, new testing validation all that jazz. But that's not the point here. If, even for valid reasons, you didn't do that, do not imply you did in your communication
  • 3 0
 @Arierep: To me, the most disappointing thing about all of this is Leo not joining us for a fireside chat, as he has been known to do... Can you please get his attention and tell him we are all awaiting his arrival here in the comment section?
  • 1 2
 @Arierep: The lack of transparency is something I don't see here. Of course, that is a subjective matter.

I disagree on the manufacturing front. Very few people, even riders who have been with the sport for a considerable time, have no idea how much work, effort and consideration goes into producing a bicycle or just making minor changes to an existing design. Couple that with the complications caused by the current global situation and it's quite an obstacle course to navigate.
  • 36 9
 Ugliest frame ever created. It might work well, but holy smokes.
  • 8 0
 I disagree. Redalp is still the king of the ugly category.
  • 37 1
 @dirtdiggler: Marin R3ACT enters the chat
  • 5 0
 @firewalkwithme: Ahh man....that cluster-f is definitely hard to unsee.
  • 11 2
 Hi. Have you met Niner?
  • 24 0
 @firewalkwithme: sir...Tony Ellsworth holding for you on line 2
  • 4 1
 Don't worry. It doesn't work well either.
  • 7 3
 Ellsworth makes without a doubt the worst looking frames on the market. Eminent is not far behind. Pole is not that bad.
  • 15 5
 To paraphrase one of the golden comments from ARBR press release: this bike came down from the ugly mountain and cased every jump on the way down
  • 6 11
flag Endurip (Apr 9, 2021 at 10:19) (Below Threshold)
 Have a look at specialized if you think this is ugly
  • 3 1
 I don't know why but especially with that seat tilted down it looks kinda broken
  • 23 0
 Intended use 8.9.2020 For products bought before 8.9.2020 dont know what they offer for new bikes but
DO NOT USE FOR LARGER JUMPS OR DROPS (> 120CM / 48”) or Warranty goes out of window. polebicycles.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Warranty-_-Product-Liability_before_892020.pdf
  • 12 0
 Warranty? What warranty?
  • 2 0
 This is ridiculous. I pop off 24”+ drops when commuting on my hardtail and 48”+ on the trails and I’m not even close to being a gnarly rider!
  • 3 0
 Sounds like is based off the ASTM riding conditions or the ISO 4210 standard. Pretty common to find these limitations in bike warranties. Just an easy way for companies to define what a MTB is supposed to be able to handle, that they can also point at existing standards for. This one sounds like ASTM condition 4 (rough dh trails up to 40kmh and drops/jumps less than 122cm/48").
  • 2 0
 Seems like it, good to clarify.
  • 17 1
 "....gone are the windows for internal routing to give it a much cleaner look."

But, I thought, maybe, wasn't the purpose of internal routing, to um, you know, give bikes, like, much... cleaner... looks...?
  • 3 0
 Haha! When you put it like that. Well yes, you're of course right. I suppose I would suggest that many Pole owners enjoy the external routing. The unused windows can be a bit of an eye saw.
  • 7 0
 I think the cable routing is the least of its worries, looks-wise.
  • 1 0
 Yes it does, although external routing is so much easier to work with, and with that in mind infinitely superior. Wasting time just trying to get cable housing through two small holes at opposite ends of a tube is really not fun.
  • 3 1
 @henryquinney: I think the whole frame is an eye saw.
  • 1 0
 @henryquinney: an 'eye saw'? That sounds REALLY painful... Hoping you meant eyesore!
  • 4 0
 @bigtim: Haha! Yep, so you are. I-saw it too late.
  • 1 0
 @henryquinney: "eye saw" when something is more than an eyesore
  • 23 6
 HAHAHA that thing is U-G-L-Y
  • 14 0
 Funny looking bike. Thankfully most won't stay that particular shape for too long
  • 14 3
 Lots of hate towards the design, for my part I liked it from the beginning and would love to take it out and see how it does. I'm a function over form person for the most part and if it delivers that's what matters & personally I do like the look.
  • 6 4
 Totally agree, these comments are like, wtf? For me if it works, it looks good. If you want a fashion model to sit at your living room, get a fully rigid bike. Anything else is a "fuss". The only thing I don't like about this bike is the short seat tube.
  • 3 0
 I have a black evolink and think it looks fcking cool in the flesh. Photos don't really work though. I think most people think the same.
  • 2 0
 Except as others have mentioned, it's just a 1.3 Frame with a different shock because they ran out of stock in shocks and they just slapped an angleset to correct the changes made in geometry.
  • 1 0
 @rob-chambo: How does it ride?
  • 2 0
 @tipsword: Honestly, it's the best thing I've ever bought. It's made such a difference to my riding. I got into mtb late and all my mates are better than me, so the stability and confidence it gives really works for me. I can see why experienced riders may want something more playful, but I fell like I'm riding "in" in the bike rather than perched above it like I was on my old bike (Spesh enduro). I twice ended up in hospital on that, on the new bike I haven't felt that's likely.
  • 1 0
 @rob-chambo: Thank you for the feedback, this is what I'm after really. I'm pushing 60 and not a wealthy guy, so I have to save and try and buy smart and for a long haul as flipping bikes isn't in the picture when you have a mortgage and kids for most people. I'm riding a 2013 Yeti SB66 that I bought on year end from shop in Bend Oregon. I think it was a spare frame they built up from parts as I've never seen a Yeti with a stock 32mm fork, let alone an SB. It's pretty tired and due to be replaced. I'm going to get ahold of Pole and see if they have any retailers here in Oregon.
  • 14 0
 Really puts the barge and the pole in "wouldn't touch it with a bargepole"
  • 1 0
 Zing!
  • 17 3
 Floating seat tube gives me big Walmart bike vibes.
  • 3 1
 Exactly! I was thinking the same thing.
  • 1 0
 Very long 2006 Commencal vibes
  • 13 1
 Production bike shots and they still installed an angle adjust headset.
  • 11 0
 That's because it's actually the 1.3 frame only with a longer shock. The angleset is there to keep the old head angle. All that talk and they just covered the internal cabling holes and slapped a longer shock
  • 15 1
 That’s to correct for the prototype XC head tube...
  • 2 0
 @FuzzyL: Underrated comment of the day!
  • 12 0
 Waiting patiently for Leo to show up in the comments section...
  • 10 0
 Hey guys, need a little help with frame sizing. I have no style OR speed. Please advise.
  • 9 0
 That tube between the seatstay and chainstay looks nice and chunky.... any particular reason?!
  • 5 1
 Lots of breakage in the previous generation
  • 11 1
 Seat tube looks like an afterthought.
  • 6 1
 "Oh shit... people will need to sit on this!"
  • 4 0
 Pinkbike buy/sell section is going to be in disarray soon, will need a reference chart for the revolutionary new names for 'small', 'medium', and 'large' all these innovative manufacturers have come up with.

Buying my second hand bikes is going to become a minefield.
  • 1 1
 What size bike do you need i got one if your tall
  • 1 0
 Wait until a brand starts using the starbucks sizing names where you ordered something called Tall and ended up with something small.
  • 5 0
 It’s a few years later and I’ve sold it, but the Machine still holds some of my fastest dh times and I miss that super steep STA sometimes. The looks are love or hate but it was a fast bike.
  • 9 2
 This looks like something a 3rd grader would dream up.
  • 6 1
 Not enough spacers under the stem. No sale.


"overall stack height decreases across all sizes"
Made up for with all the headset spacers they could find.
  • 4 0
 I understand using all those spacers on a production bike. Leave the steer tube long and let the customer decide to cut it if they want. But take the things out and cut the tube to a normal length for the promo pics.
  • 3 0
 Also did you guys notice the angle headset?
  • 3 0
 As an existing v1.3 owner, I reckon most of these tweaks are a good thing.
Slight steeper seat angle, check.
Higher BB, check (no bike parks here, it's rocky and you gotta be able to pedal through it.....low BBs are dangerous).
Higher progression, check.
Delete internal routing, check.
It's just a shame they didn't retool to adjust the head angle properly.

The looks are subjective, I like them personally. Sure, there are prettier bikes, but if I cared about looks over performance I'd still be on my Evil Wreckoning. You get used to the look of seat angle. Anything with a conservative slack seat angle looks awkward to me these days. Like a recumbent!
  • 1 0
 The production frames won't have the angleset and will have an updated head tube
  • 6 0
 Doesn't look like you'd get a long dropper in them seat tubes..
  • 4 0
 You can't... I'm 5'10" and had an EvoLink at the shop as a demo bike - I have to run a 125mm because the 150mm dropper I had on hand wouldn't fit. Pretty unacceptable for 2021...
  • 1 0
 @aj-allen97: That's a deal breaker right there. Any well designed frame should accommodate at least a 170mm dropper or longer in size small or medium. Thanks Knolly!
  • 1 0
 Love my Evolink, dropper length is literally my only criticism. I'm 6ft and have a 160mm drop. Would like more.
  • 1 0
 @aj-allen97: I’m 5’ 10” and can run a 160mm dropper on my size M Evolink.

The post is slammed in as far as possible but it works fine.
  • 2 0
 I don't like the looks of the bike, but more importantly it looks like the shock placement is directly in the line of fire of mud and muck from the rear tire. I really like Pole's company philosophy, but this bike just seems off...
  • 3 0
 I am curious about whether the bottom of the seat tube is open to the elements...either way I’d definitely want a rear mudguard
  • 6 0
 Is the sizing in Kokkenen units?
  • 2 1
 So with all the horror stories of people ordering the machined frames and never having them delivered, is there a problem with that manufacturing process? You'd think he could just crank them out and get them to customers. Is this why he is re-releasing the Pole?
  • 5 4
 You mean like... Pole By-Sick-le?
  • 3 0
 I don't think there's such thing as "never having them delivered", just really long delivery times on some models. Reason being just that, challenges with a new manufacturing technique. And manufacturing not being able to keep up with demand, what must be really unheard of these days..
  • 2 5
 @hirvi: The way I see it, Sick faced challenges with new Business model technology. Didn’t work out either. While Pole may have higher business ethics and they actually innovated something they are still not on par with big companies and definitely not with the small custom manufacturers, even BTR who is just one dude grinding his brain off.

Both Sick and Pole suffer from Gigantic Ego. You just don’t go out with new stuff and throw crap on virtually everybody, saying your product is better in every possible way and most ethical on top of it. I may have a gigantic ego on Pinkbike but I keep it away from my clients as an architect. I make sure their hard earned money doesn’t go to shit. A bunch of folks online say Wakis house revolutionary organic concrete house has mould everywhere 2 werks after the first rain - they are all haters who cannot appreciate how visionary I am. Then in the midst of shitstorm post a selfie taken in my kitchen and write that I know that I am cool anyways

Because nobody would ever hire me again, save a couple of pretentious whackos with disposable income or some lost souls willing to stress their budget to make a dent in local peer group
  • 3 0
 @justwaki: You should add mullet cycles to that list, Prob worse than both those two others
  • 2 0
 @Tobsa: did you follow the circus on mullets press release over on vital? Before they took it down?
  • 1 0
 @hirvi: I heard of several people that, after a year, cancelled their order because their bikes never arrived
  • 1 0
 @hamncheez: yes, it was pretty hilarious
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 @hamncheez: Yeah i know, like i said, really long delivery times. Still not the same as "not delivered", what sounds like they're scamming people.
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 @hirvi: technically you are right. You could say the same about Sick before they went bust officially. And I assure you Sick guys had zero intention to cheat people. They were just even worse at running a business than Leo. These folks are so bad at running a business they don’t realize how bad they are. Delivery time of up to 6 months (or more) after you took the money was plain ridiculous in pre Covid times. It’s not a rocket science. You have suppliers and you are a serious about placing orders, you either can establish a reliable relationship with them or not. When you do, you are capable of saying how much time it takes to get stuff delivered. Then you pass it onto the client. But if you aren’t serious, you are not treated seriously then maybe you get a container in a month or in 4 months. I just don’t know what sort of a dent they believe they are doing in the bike world that they just won’t get a normal job 9-5. Incompetence in virtually everything they do?!
  • 3 0
 I am fully sold on steep seat tubes being better for climbing on big long slack bikes. They will forever look like the bike is broken in half though.
  • 4 0
 Don't ignore aesthetics in a design, this is a put off, get some Italians on the design team
  • 1 0
 Hah! I did the Metric shock "hack" a few years ago; I installed a 210x55 Metric shock on an Evolink 158 (which was originally spec'd with a 8.5" x 2.5"), except that my intention was to lower the BB instead of raise it. It cut the travel down to 148ish, but it got the BB height to 340mm. Installed a 150mm fork to better match the rear travel and to bring the HTA up to 64ish degrees. Neat.
  • 3 0
 Great upgrades to an already great bike. Good to see the Evolink return was worried Pole was only going to sell highend Staminas from now on.
  • 1 0
 I owned the last gen of evolink. It was an amazing bike and the ride was fantastic, but never again! Loads of them have had problems with the chainstay brace cracking, multiple people with multiple warranty returns.. some waiting months with no reply, total radio silence! I have no idea how a companies customer service can be SO bad!

Just go get a privateer instead.. near enough the same geo, same weight, but they’ll actually take care of you!
  • 1 0
 I don't understand designing a frame with a stack height so low that you have to use 20 headset spacers to get the bars in the right position. Also looks like a works components angle adjust headset being used as well. Might I suggest rethinking this one and doing it right from the start.
  • 2 1
 I allways liked the evolink-look. I'd love to ride one.... but i cant fit the dropper-lenght i want in it.
I wonder why they did not place the damper a bit more to the front and actuated it with a yoke to get more length of the seattube?

I had a long discussion with pole when i was in the planning phase for my current race-sled, and we could not make it work for me. Pity. The seattube/dropper was the only factor that made me buy a geometron at the end. I know 2 guys who ride evolinks.... this thing just works. Very VERY good. And btw: i never have heard of a broken evolink.... I really wonder where what the guys did to destroy this thing. It is build like a tank....
  • 1 0
 People getting more stupid by the day... Is it really that hard to understand that this is NOT the production frame? Leo clearly states the details in the video on their website. The frame shown is a 1.3 with adjustments to get a preview of the final outcome. Changes are being made in Taiwan to remove holes and to fix headtube so that angleset is not needed.
And no, I'm not a Pole fanboy.
  • 7 3
 Wonder how many frames they snapped during preproduction testing
  • 5 4
 Every single one of them
  • 3 0
 You can always immediately tell when it's Henry writing an article. Love his style, I miss his gmbn videos.
  • 1 0
 I started reading was like “this reads like Henry”, checked the author and realised haha. Also love his style
  • 2 0
 That bike might look less like it has been through a head-on collision if they at least kept the saddle level.
  • 2 1
 Known for what? Not passing the huck to flat test? Or for being run by arguably the biggest asshat in the history of our sport?
  • 2 0
 i thought it was an old blue commie mini dh at first... how much 10 grand.... jesus wept....
  • 1 0
 Missed opportunity for a new model name: Pole Arising
Could’ve even launched it on Easter for double entendre bonus points.
  • 3 0
 New sizing K9-69
  • 2 0
 I don't fit either of those rider types Frown
  • 3 1
 Wish it looked like a session. Woof.
  • 2 0
 I wonder if they'll stop cracking now
  • 2 1
 The way a mountain bike looks matters to me and for that reason I’m out on this beast.
  • 2 0
 At least that blue looks pretty cool.
  • 2 0
 Seat tube angle: 90 deg. LOL
  • 2 0
 It sure ain't pretty BUT I would love a chance to ride one!
  • 1 0
 Level the seat and get rid of all the headset spacers and this bike looks a whole lot better.
  • 3 1
 it's gonna be a cracking bike!
  • 1 0
 Wonder if Kaz will have his saddle slammed all the way forward if/when he gets to review this bike
  • 2 2
 Wow, the previous one would have pedalled like crap, with such a low anti-squat. Even with the update it's bob-land, consistently below 100%.
  • 1 0
 Couldn't even bother to cut the steerer tube for the pic. And "well known" is a stretch...
  • 3 0
 function > form
  • 1 0
 No matter how good a steep seat tube might be, they do make bikes look ugly/awkward
  • 2 0
 Anyone know the max dropper? So much wrong don't know where to start.
  • 2 1
 This bike looks like it took a nasty case. This better be the most functional bike ever, because it sure is the ugliest.
  • 2 0
 Release the @JasonLucas!

(Once they get the slo-mo camera working)
  • 3 1
 They are really late with April 1 this year.
  • 2 0
 Needs just 1 more stem spacer...
  • 1 0
 Is the reach correct?
Pretty sure the last model was 480mm for a M and 510 for a large.
  • 2 0
 I finally found my headset spacers, been looking all over for them.
  • 1 1
 Looks like a vajazzle (google it), def not a trek because you can turn the handlebars round.
  • 1 0
 Looks so 2008! Not a bad thing in my book.
  • 1 0
 K1, K2, K3, S1, S2, S3, N1... Omg it's still small, medium and large etc
  • 2 0
 Looks like a Grim Donut
  • 1 0
 Looks like this could moonlight as a walnut cracker
  • 1 1
 ...not to pile on the pole, but that colorway matches our local cop...um POLicE cars.
  • 3 1
 Pass!
  • 1 0
 so is it pronounced pole or poh-leh
  • 1 0
 did they have levy design this looks like a grim donut type of thing.
  • 1 0
 Did they update the frame glue from elmers to gorilla glue?
  • 1 0
 wow. absolutely awful! Imagine what that feels like to pedal.
  • 1 0
 The frame looks like it's dazzle painted like they did with WOI on ships.
  • 2 2
 IDK about everyone else, but these crazy steep seat tubes are effin' up my knees. Plz stop.
  • 1 2
 The frame/linkage looks like when you are a kid playing Bridge Builder, and you don't know what you are doing, so you just keep adding pieces until it doesn't break.
  • 3 1
 my eyes
  • 1 0
 Remember the late 2000's mongoose bikes?
  • 1 0
 Why are there so many stem spacers?
  • 1 0
 Reminds me of an early Karpiel.
  • 1 0
 FS: SuperDeluxe, slight cable rub
  • 2 1
 My bike looks better after car crash....
  • 4 5
 Head tube would scare me worse than the Grim Donut.. That thing looks like it's about to snap right off.
  • 2 3
 "Considered Thinking" "Maxim" "Page One Re-write"?
Sounds like you need a good kick up the posterior!
  • 3 2
 Late April Fools post?
  • 1 1
 interesting to see welds on the frame. Any problems with cnc'ing them?;-)
  • 3 5
 Probably a lot like my ex. Fun to ride, but don't want your buddies to see you on it.
  • 2 2
 Fuggggers
  • 2 2
 Two words: Hard pass.
  • 1 1
 Awkward!
  • 1 1
 It looks broken

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