Pro Announces Internally Routed 170mm Koryak Dropper Post

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chyu (Jul 7, 2018 at 11:22)

One bolt. Does it come with friction paste too?

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zyoungson (Jul 7, 2018 at 17:58)

Those type of seat clamps are not as bad as you think.

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kungfupanda (Jul 7, 2018 at 22:36)

@zyoungson: yeah... they're worse.

plume (Jul 8, 2018 at 5:32)

Clamp design is a deal breaker.

Maxipedia (Jul 8, 2018 at 6:01)

Talk after you have used one. I have a PRO Koryak post with this clamp system since a year and it hasn't skipped a beat. I weigh 95 kg and I am not exactly easy on bikes. Cheers!

@nuttypoolog I assume you have used one for a good while too and know the drill?

atrokz (Jul 8, 2018 at 8:39)

@Maxipedia: agree. I ran their road stuff on a CX bike for years, no issues. Pro (Shimano) makes good stuff. I'm over 200lbs and it didn't shift once.

Maxipedia (Jul 8, 2018 at 12:43)

@atrokz: I think one thing you learn as you grow older is that efficiency and quality are more valuable than fancy shiznit. I have never been quite a fan of Shimano and I am a brand-sensitive guy who finds PRO pretty dull. But if I look at my bikes, there are Shimano brakes on pretty much all of them, recently a Shimano drivetrain on my enduro bike and PRO handlebars, seatposts and other bits where before there were parts from ”cooler” brands. I can't find any fault to what these guys are doing. Oh, and their seats are awesome and underrated.

Life is good when you ride and have less problems.

Rstetina (Jul 18, 2018 at 10:38)

it does actually

minus28 (Aug 4, 2018 at 2:48)

@Maxipedia: I recently fitted one on my Camber 29er and regret it. The clamp is a bad design and continually squeaks, regardless of how tight it is. I'll get some friction paste but I see this as having to compensate for a poor design - it shouldn't be necessary. I'm only 80kg and not that aggressive a rider. There are so many other options on the market, just buy something else.

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catfish9797 (Jul 7, 2018 at 9:06)

So many good droppers on the market now that even a long travel version is met with crickets. These are good times for mountain bikes

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WAKIdesigns (Jul 7, 2018 at 10:17)

This needs repeating over and over again: “these are good times for mountain bikes”

speed10 (Jul 7, 2018 at 19:48)

@WAKIdesigns: mtb yum yum

jubs17 (Jul 7, 2018 at 9:09)

I have loved my koryak post for the past two seasons. Here are the things I love about it the most:
Cheap
never went squishy
return speed is not slow but not too fast
ability to lift the bike by the seat
Zero side to side play in the nose of my saddle after 2 seasons.
the clean looking clamp is awesome.

endurocat (Jul 7, 2018 at 10:35)

Wait, it says, four new models. Only 3 are shown.
What I'm missing?

PaFelcio (Jul 7, 2018 at 10:45)

@enrico650: 150 one in two variants - external or internal routing.

mhoshal (Jul 7, 2018 at 12:07)

Couldn't be bothered to show the levers?

bishopsmike (Jul 7, 2018 at 18:59)

Or the price or the weight?

dangerousdave (Jul 7, 2018 at 9:33)

Looks promising. My only concern is that the seat clamp doesn't seem to have much surface area on the lower part which might increase the risk for bent seat rails.

takeiteasyridehard (Jul 7, 2018 at 9:36)

That clamp design has been used by other brands, and always slips if you land hard on the saddle. I always want the trusty two bolts fore and aft design.

BikesBoatsNJeeps (Jul 7, 2018 at 11:54)

My Trek Boone uses that style of clamp, the infinite adjustability is... Good I guess, but if you don't torque it to 14Nm it'll rotate, and even torqued to spec my saddle creeps back slowly with time. Next time I need to readjust the saddle position, I'm going to put some valve grinding compound on the Ti rails to hopefully add some traction to the clamp. I've tried carbon paste but it doesn't seem to hold well enough (the past helps with the rotation issue just not the saddle sliding)

Rstetina (Jul 18, 2018 at 10:38)

i have bent rails with shimano posts before of this design but its rare... new solution: carbon rails

PHeller (Jul 7, 2018 at 16:29)

It's funny: Shimano released videos on how to replace the cartridge in these dropper posts...only you can't find the replacement cartridge anywhere. It's almost as if the intentionally hide the fact that the post can be fixed by the average home mechanic, maybe they just think we'll just go out and buy a new one?

JohanG (Jul 7, 2018 at 20:15)

Part YPRSP0193, multiple sellers on Amazon, $55-$60 shipped.

PHeller (Jul 8, 2018 at 13:01)

@JohanG: Hey thanks! Can that part also be used with some other Trans-X/Brand-X/PNW droppers?

Kimbers FL (Jul 7, 2018 at 9:53)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought koryak was just a rehashed Tranz-x/Brand-x dropper with a less reliable saddle clamp?

yzedf (Jul 7, 2018 at 15:49)

How could you confused Shimano with brand x?

winko (Jul 8, 2018 at 2:05)

Heard that as well... But I have brandx dropper and its fantastic considering the price

wayslo (Jul 8, 2018 at 5:25)

@yzedf: I wouldn't be surprised about this at all. Shimano outsources lots of stuff and sells it as their own. KMC doing most of their chains is a prime example.

IllestT (Jul 7, 2018 at 10:02)

Excuse my ignorance, but is Pro the same thing as Shimano?

velio84 (Jul 7, 2018 at 10:52)

Yes, it is.

jrocksdh (Jul 7, 2018 at 11:21)

Ya, take a look at the pro cockpit stuff..its really lighweight and well sorted. I just got a tharsis stem and pro c. H-bar.

panzer103 (Jul 7, 2018 at 15:50)

One bolt saddle clamp.. never been a fan of those. Maybe these will be better then the ones ive used in the past

jubs17 (Jul 8, 2018 at 16:23)

I've had my saddle slip twice over two years from little G-outs while sitting down. Otherwise, never been an issue.

JohanG (Jul 7, 2018 at 20:06)

Still no internal 100mm. I had a 120mm with 170mm to the saddle rails available but with the tallness of the collar it was too tall.

rideyobike86 (Jul 7, 2018 at 23:26)

Am I the only one who wants a Di2 model?

themountain (Jul 7, 2018 at 11:58)

What is the price??Was it mentioned?

Matt76 (Jul 7, 2018 at 10:52)

Dam such a shame. I was after a 171mm drop post so i supposed i will have to wait until it is invented!

static-schock (Jul 7, 2018 at 20:31)

Bikeyoke revive.

mcleodpulaski FL (Jul 7, 2018 at 15:08)

Is it IFP?

EuroinSF (Jul 7, 2018 at 9:07)

It's pro, bro.

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Svinyard (Jul 7, 2018 at 13:20)

Ugh another Advertisement disguised as an article about tech stuff. I like a nice heads up on a product but it's nothing more than their marketing copy/paste.

brianpark FL Editor (Jul 7, 2018 at 13:43)

No disguising here. It literally says Press Release twice above the article. It’s an important product and big news so we ran the PR. We didn’t get paid to put it up, and we always label any sponsored stories as such.

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Sshredder (Jul 7, 2018 at 11:39)

Let me guess the light weight version is 600 grams.
And it will fail. They all do.
Adding 400 grams at the highest point on a bike.
Nice sloppy feel extra pound of weight and will fail eventually.
No wonder every body wants a dropper post.
My QR read quick release never fails.
Takes about ten seconds maximum to slam my seat as low as possible ( which you can't do with a dropper post) when I get to the top of the mountain.

BikesBoatsNJeeps (Jul 7, 2018 at 12:02)

My dropper puts my saddle plenty low enough, any lower and it would contact my rear tire. Plus it takes about .5sec to drop it and about the same to raise it, which is something I can do repeatedly as I ride the trails. For example, today I did a 20mi trail ride, and I probably lowered and raised my dropper about 150 times. I did a pretty epic day at Dupont State Forest last year and probably had my dropper up and down 250-300 times. Until you ride with one, you're just speaking from a place of no experience.

diggerandrider (Jul 7, 2018 at 12:06)

Sorry meant to upvote u. So true, I use mine way too much to count on a ride. @BikesBoatsNJeeps:

mhoshal (Jul 7, 2018 at 12:14)

@Sshredder It only takes me a spit second to hit a lever and I don't have to stop riding, and if you're noticing one pound added to the top of your bike you should probably hit the gym lol I never even noticed a difference when I went from fixed to a dropper.

Sshredder (Jul 7, 2018 at 13:20)

@mhoshal: Ever heard of a low center of gravity. A dropper post is the opposite.
Gosh mountain bikers having an obsession with weight how rare!
I was teaching a friend how how to ride down a steep section with his new bike.
He went over the bars. Thats when i noticed the two inches of dropper post that restricts how low the seat can be dropped.
I mountain bike as in I ride up a climbing trail then i ride down a DH trail. In no way have I ever felt limited in what i can ride.
These are complex gadgets with fancy knobs to make you feel good.
Another way to take your cash.

Svinyard (Jul 7, 2018 at 13:24)

Ive spent years without a dropper doing what you described but the reality is that a variable seat height that you can change on the fly really makes things better. If you are hitting a real technical climb that them dumps into a chute with a drop, you can handle all of that with no compromises. It's not like everything is a simple up and then down kind of thing. Dropper post is super great.

Sshredder (Jul 7, 2018 at 13:29) (Below Threshold)

@BikesBoatsNJeeps: Another person shooting there mouth off with no proof of what you are saying.
You know i have never tried one.
I will do any trail any time with out a dropper post. Bring it on son.
What is the dropper post supposed to do for me.
You do realize that i just ride black diamond and double black trails right?
watched my videos
How did people ever ride before dropper post were invented!

bishopsmike (Jul 7, 2018 at 19:02)

@Sshredder: You sound like a douche

sbrdude1 (Jul 7, 2018 at 21:12)

Spoken like a myopic old fart with a small wallet.

Sshredder (Jul 7, 2018 at 21:15)

@bishopsmike: name calling. That's classy lol.

Sshredder (Jul 7, 2018 at 21:16)

@sbrdude1: ditto

sbrdude1 (Jul 7, 2018 at 21:18)

@Sshredder: Don't be bitter just because it's not what you use.

Sshredder (Jul 7, 2018 at 21:26)

@Svinyard: I understand your point.
I can still do steep sections with my seat up.
One can side saddle or just get right behind the seat.
I have never had to get off the bike.
XC racers are starting to use droppers but for the most part they do steep sections ass up.
Your argument is valid. But I weigh the cost of extra weight at the highest point on the bike, reliability and yes cost.
Some inventions changed mountainbiking to a dramatic improvement such as disk brakes and full suspension.
A dropper post very complex prone to failure and not a significant improvement in bike performance.

sbrdude1 (Jul 7, 2018 at 21:45)

@Sshredder: Actually they're quite reliable and the added control from a lower saddle height has helped many talented riders like Julien Absalon perform better. In many cases it is worth the small weigh penalty being that it is pretty much static weight and has little if any effect on redistributing the center of gravity of a bike. I've had 4 different models and all were simple and very reliable. It's all relevant to how well you maintain your equipment.

Sshredder (Jul 7, 2018 at 23:50)

@sbrdude1: one pound is a small weight penalty.?
There is too much proof on the trails, riding with friends talking to other riders . The verdict : plenty of problems with dropper post.
I'm trying to think of a trail that has down hill sections on a climbing trail.
I can't think of one .
Honest .I'm talking North Shore trails .
But many bikes have dropper post.
Sorry but I find that to be odd.
I will add on teck climbs i am not seated so seat position is not an issue.
If I come across a climb on a DH trail the duration of the climb does not warrant raising the seat.
When is this dropper post supposed to improve my ride?

scottzg (Jul 7, 2018 at 23:52)

@Sshredder: I can ride anything without a dropper just fine too. It's not a big deal. Reliable dropper- Gravity Dropper- as old as the dropper post. The weight difference is immaterial in the real world. This is like clipless vs flats; your opinion is worthless if you're not excellent with both styles... then when you are, it's nuanced.

Highpost and shut up, or get good with a dropper and be ambivalent.

sbrdude1 (Jul 8, 2018 at 10:32)

@Sshredder sounds like your friends should be reading some of the service and long term reviews on these posts. Where I live there are a lot of loose and technical climbs so a dropper means that you can simply cover more ground at a higher speed without crashing. Where I live you have to earn your DH sections with some lung bursting climbs and adding 1lb to a 23lb or 25lb bike isn't going to slow you down as much as stopping to dick with your qr lever. Might want to check out the last few generations of Fox Transfer posts.

Sshredder (Jul 8, 2018 at 19:06)

@sbrdude1: sorry but I just had to google problems with Fox transfer post.
hope they got them working for 2018 hahaha.

sbrdude1 (Jul 8, 2018 at 19:36)

@Sshredder: poorly researched articles that in many cases are based off of user error doesn't help your argument.

Sshredder (Jul 8, 2018 at 20:13)

@sbrdude1: so you didn't google problems with Fox transfer post obviously.
Google is a form of information and communication.
Any type of communication needs to be filtered for bulshit to find the facts.
There are many many forums about the air spring leaking and the key way gets sloppy .
Many different post from people's personal experience.
Oh you just read one totally misinformed article.
All of my points are easy to prove .
You just proved your lack of knowledge.
Please google problems with Fox transfer post.
Don't give me this can't trust the internet crap.
This is the internet.

bishopsmike (Jul 9, 2018 at 5:29)

@Sshredder: Please ask anyone (ANYONE) who's ridden a dropper post for at least 3 months if they would trade for a rigid post. Total up your answers, and see how dumb you sound.

Sshredder (Jul 9, 2018 at 6:17)

@bishopsmike: oh I see many people use a dropper post so I must use one too.
So we can all.be the same.
Because that makes you feel comfortable.

mhoshal (Jul 10, 2018 at 9:31)

@Sshredder: ya I have heard of low center of gravity but the seatpost weighs less then the shit your carrying around in your bowels right now. Stop reading armchair comments then regurgitating them you look like a moron doing it. A normal seat and post is only half a pound lighter then my dropper so you aren't even adding a pound to the top and again if you are noticing that you're a pussy!!!

mhoshal (Jul 10, 2018 at 9:36)

@Sshredder: dont use one and enjoy your breaks before your dh and then your break again when you get to the bottom. Trying to convince a crowd to stop using droppers? Why would that make you more comfortable if everyone was as stupid as you sound lol. Get a life. You don't even probably ride more then once a month so of course you wouldn't need a dropper.

Sshredder (Jul 10, 2018 at 13:04)

@mhoshal: your a sheep.
A consumer of shit like all the other sheep.
All I hear is baaaaaaaa.
Not one original thought.
You are beyond dumb.
You suck at free riding as you call it.
Your dropper post is your crutch to compensate for your lack of skill.
So go sit on your bike and baaaaaaaaaa.

sbrdude1 (Jul 10, 2018 at 13:34)

@Sshredder: Tell that to all of the EWS racers. I highly doubt that you can hold anything to their ability. Your personal attacks simply mean you are out is anything relevant. How does it look from inside your box of ignorance?

mhoshal (Jul 12, 2018 at 7:32)

@Sshredder: the guttless pussy inboxes me like he's some tough guy behind his keyboard lmao what a f*cken wimp!!!

Sshredder (Jul 12, 2018 at 21:14)

@mhoshal: your language and verbal abuse has no place on PB.
Thus the PM.
It's too bad you have to use derogatory comments that objectify woman (pussy)
It's too bad people can't argue with out lowering the standards of the conversation to childish name calling.

Sshredder (Jul 12, 2018 at 21:18)

@sbrdude1: good you do what "they are doing"
Good for you.
Do DH bikes use droppers?

sbrdude1 (Jul 14, 2018 at 8:25)

@Sshredder: irrelevant comparison. I ride comfortably and fast so dropper posts work quite well for me.

mhoshal (Jul 15, 2018 at 6:10)

@Sshredder: do you need your safe place too there cupcake. Lmao what a baby!!!

mhoshal (Jul 15, 2018 at 6:26)

@Sshredder: you called me a f*cken goof and a retard in my inbox buddy and your whining about being called a pussy lmao you're a real winner kid.

mhoshal (Jul 17, 2018 at 9:49)

@Sshredder: way to compare a bike thats made to point down the hill and go as opposed to a bike you ride on flat climb and decend with lol you literally know f*ck all about biking MORON!!!

mhoshal (Jul 17, 2018 at 9:53)

@Sshredder: if you're on a mtb then you're a sheep too because its got 2 wheels a crank pedals handlebars gears get this just like everyone else MORON so you're just a big of sheep as the rest of us princess!!