Production Privée Release New Shan nº5

Oct 11, 2017
by PRODUCTION PRIVEE CREW  
Press Release




・Some say he has a bigger “pair” than Danny Hart…

・Some say his nights are wilder than Cédric Gracia…

・Or some say his hair cut his more impeccable than Greg Minnaar…

・Eventually some say he drinks more Monster than Sam Hill...


The Stig, ladies and gentlemen! The Stig has come in Andorra to test the Shan nº5!


The Stig rides the Shan n 5 in Andorra


After numerous negotiations with the Stig’s entourage (the Stig doesn’t talk), we eventually obtained its coming to Andorra to put to the test the Shan nº5 and its steel chassis! Actually, we wanted to meet him for a long time (the Stig is laconic)! So, on this special occasion, we built him a Shan nº5 Factory GTR and we agreed with the Andorran government on preparing a wonderful weather. Having a special bike at hand and without any raindrop insight, the Stig finally accepted to ride! And the video speaks for itself, the Stig was fast! Very, very fast!


We enjoy the test of Shan nº5 by the Stig to present our first range of complete bikes and our new rolling chassis option.

The Shan nº5 is our new full-suspension frame, entirely constructed from 4130 MCS CrMo steel. This is a play bike at its best! A trip up into the mountains? A ride out with your friends? A weekend playing in your favorite bike park? How about a round in your local Enduro race? The Shan N°5 can do all of that, easily excelling in each domain, for as long as you can ride! The Shan n°5 was developed so that its steel frame is able to absorb the trail profile thanks to finely controlled flex in its chassis. It is more tolerant & forgiving, offering increased confidence and more cornering grip. On top of that, a Crmo Steel frame is almost indestructible!

The Shan nº5 has 140mm of rear travel and it’s been designed for 140 to 160mm forks. The implement of a low damping ratio and a close work with Fox on shock settings gives the rider a feeling of having much more travel than it does while maintaining superb maneuvering and pedalling abilities. The Shan nº5 is compatible with 27.5” and 27.5+ wheels.





NEW ROLLING CHASSIS & COMPLETE BIKE OPTIONS

Shan n 5 JPS ROLLING CHASSIS FACTORY
Production Priv e Release New Shan n 5
The JPS livery is both available as rolling chassis and complete bike


ROLLING CHASSIS:

The Rolling chassis is a new concept at Production Privée, making the job easier for those looking at a custom build around a Shan nº5.
The Rolling Chassis comes with most important and essentials parts of the bicycle.


Shan n 5 CLASSIC ROLLING CHASSIS GTR
Shan nº5 with the GTR rolling chassis option

We’ve selected high-level performance components, reliable and most important, matching perfectly the Shan nº5 riding characteristic. Our Rolling Chassis come with:

Shan n 5 CLASSIC ROLLING CHASSIS GTR


 • frame & rear shock


• fork & headset

• wheels & tires

• cockpit


 • dropper post





Shan n 5 CLASSIC ROLLING CHASSIS GTR close up - PP cockpit

Shan n 5 CLASSIC ROLLING CHASSIS GTR close up - Fox 34 Performance series

Shan n 5 CLASSIC ROLLING CHASSIS GTR close up - Revive dropper post
Shan n 5 CLASSIC ROLLING CHASSIS GTR close up - Stan s NoTubes FLOW MKIII

This gives you the opportunity to specs by yourself your favourite drive train, brakes, and saddle and to realize your dream bike! You can even take the components from your old bike, to save up some money in this quest!


An extreme attention to details was carried during the making of these rolling chassis!

Look at that. On the Shan nº5 GTR, the Fox logo metallic silver and black on the front fork and rear shock as well as the Stans No-Tubes logo on the wheelset, match perfectly the Shan nº5 Classic paint color!

On the Shan nº5 Factory JPS, the matt black and gold paint on the frame, match perfectly the Fox Factory suspensions. The Stan No-tubes wheelset has a custom gold logo as well as the SDG custom color saddle!

Two options are available:

Rolling Chassis GTR (Go To Ride) at 2799€ with Fox Performance series suspensions, Stans No-Tubes S1 wheelset.
Rolling Chassis Factory at 3499€ with Fox Factory suspensions and Stan No-Tubes MK3 wheelset.

Both rolling chassis comes with the superb telescopic post Bike Yoke Revive with its tool-free bleeding system.


Shan n 5 JPS ROLLING CHASSIS FACTORY
Shan n 5 JPS ROLLING CHASSIS FACTORY - Fox Float DPX2 Factory

Shan nº5 JPS livery pictured here in the rolling chassis Factory option

Shan n 5 JPS ROLLING CHASSIS FACTORY - PP Cockpit
Shan n 5 JPS ROLLING CHASSIS FACTORY - Fox 36 Factory


To pick up all the information and specs on the Rolling chassis: http://www.productionprivee.com/fr/actualites/article/shan-no-5-en-montage-complet-et-rolling-chassis

Quantity is limited, pre-orders are already open on http://www.production-privee.com nd availability is Mid November.


COMPLETE BIKES:
For the first time at Production Privée a range of three complete bikes around the SHAN Nº5 is offered for sale! We have made these bikes, simple, reliable and with a high level of performance.

Le Shan nº5 GTR, comes with a Fox 34 Performance series fork, a Fox Float Evol DPS Performance series rear shock and a 12spd GX Eagle. This is the first model of the range, pricing is 3499€

Production Priv e Release New Shan n 5

The GTR which stands for Go To Ride is a simple, efficient and reliable build allowing to face any kind of trail in any conditions. Suspension wise the GTR comes with Fox suspension Performance series offering three modes: open for downhills, trail for pedally trails and locked. Transmission wise the GTR comes with a 1x12spd GX Eagle a simple and reliable group allowing to face any kind of terrain, up or down.



Le Shan nº5 GTR Factory, comes with a FOX 36 Factory fork, a Fox DPX2 Factoryrear shock and a GX Eagle 12v transmission. This is the second model, and it's the one used by the Stig! The pricing is 4199€

Shan n 5 CLASSIC complet bike with GTR FACTORY build

This build is more refined than the normal GTR. Delivered with: top of the range fox suspensions coming straight from an Enduro World Series round and a pair of No-Tubes Flow MK3, the GTR Factory model reach a very high level of performance. For the ones looking for a very very fast bike on top of control and tolerance.



Le Shan nº5 Factory JPS, comes with a FOX 36 Factory fork, a Fox DPX2 Factoryrear shock and a GX Eagle 12v transmission, This is the top of the range! 4999€

Production Priv e Release New Shan n 5

This model is our ultimate weapon, our top of the range. Performance, precision, and efficiency are the characteristics of the most beautiful Shan nº5 ever proposed! The Fox Factory suspensions offer unbelievable grip, control, and speed! The XX1 Eagle transmission lighten up the bike while offering a precise and fast shifting.


These three bikes have been designed with an extreme attention to detail. Just like the rolling chassis, the suspensions, transmission, wheels and saddle graphics are matching perfectly the Classic or JPS paint schemes. Nothing was left to chance!

To pick up all the information and specs on the complete bike: http://www.productionprivee.com/fr/actualites/article/shan-no-5-en-montage-complet-et-rolling-chassis

These bikes will be assembled on our own in Andorra and available from Mid December in limited quantity! Pre-order is already opened http://www.production-privee.com and availability is Mid November.

The Stig rides the Shan n 5 in Andorra
The Stig only intervention during 2 days of filming.

The Stig rides the Shan n 5 in Andorra

The Stig rides the Shan n 5 in Andorra
The Stig rides the Shan n 5 in Andorra



127 Comments

  • + 153
 Can the Rolling Chassis concept please become normal thing for all brands.
  • + 16
 Seriously! It would actually be great for the LBS these days too. Everyone seems to want a different drivetrain and braking combo on their bikes. Having a size run of rolling chassis and a selection of various build parts would make the choice a lot easier.
  • + 3
 @seraph: i feel like i am more likely to keep stock brakes and drivetrain than wheels and cockpit. there arent many drivetrain or brake options on the market (OE has a 50/50 chance of getting your preffered drivetrain and brakes basically) but there are so many wheels and cockpit parts.
  • + 11
 No bottle cage.
  • + 0
 @seraph: Fanatik Bike Co. can custom build a bunch of frames up with whatever you want, check out the custom bike builder on their website
www.fanatikbike.com/products/bike-builder
  • + 11
 @theemtnman: Most bike shops can Rolleyes
  • + 1
 Yes! builds pretty much always come fully specced with Shimano or SRAM, I like to mix and match. And I currently run Sixc 785mm bars, they're not something I'm likely to ever want to replace.
  • + 5
 @adrennan: I'd rather chose my drivetrain since i can get some less pricey, little heavier but have strong brakes and a badass suspension on my new frame.
  • + 14
 the real stig would ride flat pedals
  • + 2
 THAT FACTORY IS PURE GOLD
  • + 1
 @chyu: its under the bottom tube...why they put it there, I don't know
  • + 1
 @theemtnman: Not seeing the bike in real life doesn't help anyone.
  • + 2
 Only yesterday I noticed Stanton do it too.
  • + 1
 I really like the concept of offering a rolling chassis! What I don't like with the Shan is, that both options come with Fox suspension.
  • + 1
 @seraph: the pics are high res and the geo is in the link. All you gotta do is find a tape measure and size yourself. More info than my lbs can provide. And I can even give myself a want while I'm at it Wink
  • + 45
 Love the Rolling Chassis idea!
  • + 21
 i think their heart is in the right place but some of the things included (handlebars and stem) are some of the more commonly replaced parts on complete bikes. so odd that those are included
  • + 12
 @adrennan: Maybe because fork would fall off without a stem Big Grin
  • + 8
 @adrennan: because they are production privee parts. They are nice but i get what you're saying
  • + 2
 @adrennan: agreed. it'll come in box so no need for stem and bars
  • + 5
 @adrennan: agreed. I was a little surprised to see a stem, bar and grips on there. But the notion as a whole: Frame + Fork + Wheels, is awesome. That'd make the transition from 26" to 27.5"/29" a bit easier.
  • + 2
 @phobospwns: for sure (and axle standard changes) with frame fork wheels, they can do better prices since the bike companies can buy bulk/OE pricing.
  • + 3
 I always build up my own bikes but it gets expensive buying fox factory suspension at aftermarket minus 20% or whatever. This idea is gold. Most people would swap parts over from their last bike if they went for this option over the complete. If you don't like the PP bar and stem just use what you already have instead.. it's probably only adding €30 to the kit price anyway.

Awesome, awesome idea @ PP
  • + 2
 @adrennan: at the same time, though, a car that comes in a rolling chassis comes with a steering wheel. its technically part of the chassis.
  • + 1
 @WrenchRy87: and how often have you seen people swap out their steering wheel? Or how often do you see people by a car just as a rolling chassis? Sorry, but poor comparison there.
  • + 1
 @adrennan: And why bother putting tires on there? That made no sense to me
  • + 1
 @adrennan: about as often as you see people buying a mountain bike as just a rolling chassis, now that you mention it. how often these things happen is irrelevant. if they call it a rolling chassis, all the chassis components should be there, or its not a rolling chassis.
  • + 2
 @adrennan: With Production Privee car comparisons are mostly spot on. These are car buffs, and I'm sure, that's were they got the rolling chassis idea.

And the people who buy their cars as rolling chassis are just as likely to swap their steering wheel as people buying the Shan are to swap their stem.

However, besides frames the stem, handlebar and grips are the only parts that PP are making, so it would be strange not to include them. And they look fantastic with the racing stripes.
  • + 32
 Some say he never rolls a jump, and wipes mud on his goggles before descending.
  • + 54
 Some say he can clip his feet into flat pedals...
  • + 19
 Some say he takes his brake pads out to make things more interesting
  • + 9
 @slimboyjim: ...with his bare feet.
  • - 2
 @slimboyjim: That's Chester you're thinking of.
  • + 3
 Some say he rides a bike with 26inch wheels and an alloy frame... And still has fun.
  • + 0
 some say he goes slow to make us mortals feel better about ourselves
  • + 17
 Why do bike companies not use steel?? It's better feel and not that much heavier. I mean if weight is your concern, ews guys have been saying for a while now that weight doesn't matter as much as people think. Yes maybe you will feel it in the wheels, but not as much when added to the frame.
  • + 8
 The industry is struggling to keep weights reasonable even with carbon and aluminum. It's difficult to make many modern suspensions designs in steel, with complex tubing profiles and lots of linkage. On a more simple design like the N5, it's not so bad, but could imagine a something like a Evil Wreckoning made out of steel components? It would likely weigh a ton. Not to mention that high quality steel aint cheap. PP has done a great job with this bike, but I'm in no hurry to see steel full suspension bikes flood the market. Give us lightweight reasonably priced aluminum, first.
  • + 5
 I'm guessing it's easier to mass produce aluminum frames than it is steel.
  • + 1
 It is difficult to design a stiff an lightweight rear end that still resists dents from stones etc. Stiffness comes with larger stay diameters. To stay lightweight you can decrease wall thicknesses. To thin and it dents like a beer can. That works much easier using aluminium.
  • + 9
 Because metal (steel and aluminium) are marketed as being inferior in order to sell carbon bikes. Give me a metal (preferably steel) bike anyday.
  • + 5
 Because you can sell "High end" plastic at a premium and make it in China for cheap. Sorry, you're right, there are carbon fibers in there too, between all that glue. Carbon and Aluminum are both easier to mass produce, but also worse for the environment. For instance, how do you recycle a carbon frame? Anyone? Shit, man... what's going to happen to all these carbon frames? I've owned a couple carbon frames, I'm guilty too. But, I've moved back to steel.

PP has really nailed it with this bike. And, the pricing (and rolling Chassis) shows they are looking out for the consumer. Right on PP!
  • + 1
 @PHeller: not true buddy, check out the BTR Pinner or the Curtis XR650. Both steel, both complex, and both sexy as hell.
  • + 2
 @PHeller: I agree that complex shapes are easier on a carbon frame. Just look at the differences from carbon to hydro-formed aluminum to steel tubes. But, a lot of the linkages could still work on a steel bike. And, most bikes being ridden are still using a basic single pivot, or horst link. Evil and Yeti have pretty complex suspension designs, but I think you could do a VPP, DW link in steel and that would be pretty rad.
  • + 1
 @nohit45: Didn't know I wanted a pinner, now I MUST have it.

Even if it looks like a session...I mean enduro...
  • + 4
 @MrPink51: And really the DELTA suspension on Evil bikes is ultimately just a linkage-driven single pivot; not really that different from the n°5
  • + 2
 @PHeller: like I said. Weight doesn't matter as much as people think. It's all geometry and suspension design. Carbon Enduro (28lbs) climbs like shit compared to my niner wfo9 (32lbs) just saying.
  • + 6
 @PHeller: This is the primary industry's lie - you need lighter bikes, pay us $1000 for bike 0.25kg lighter. This is pure BS! Weight is certainly important for XC racers, but not so important for enduro/am. Tyres, then suspension kinematics, then weight as a 3rd factor. But the weight is the magic number you can easily compare. Lighter means better, right? So they made us constantly look for lighter, more expensive parts.
  • + 2
 Honestly, the absolute best bike is ALWAYS going to have a mixture of materials. IMHO, the best bike would include the following materials on the following parts:

Frame: Steel
Rear Triangle: Aluminum
Seatpost, Handlebar: Carbon
Stem: Magnesium
Crank: Aluminum
Cassette: Steel, Aluminum (for larger cogs)
Wheels: Carbon, Aluminum, and Steel (for spokes)
Tires: Rubber (obviously)
Saddle: Leather, Carbon
Chain: Steel
Shock/Fork: Aluminum/Magnesium/Carbon/Steel
  • + 1
 @Connerv6: But it also shows why steel full suspension bikes are not more common, I know its hand made and everything but 2700gbp for a frame is just crazy, you can get a carbon direct sale complete bike for that money :/
  • + 7
 @PHeller: untrue. ep1.pinkbike.org/p6pb14274362/p6pb14274362.jpg
frame €1500 and the best bike I have had in my 36 years of riding.
  • + 2
 @Keit: mmm Starling.
  • + 1
 @fartymarty: Smile Smile Smile aye. much appreciated.
  • + 2
 I'm a steel maniac on road bikes, ride a Colnago master on a regular basis here on the alps, tested aluminum, carbon but i'm still on my favourite bike, anyhow never felt any remarkable difference between different frame materials.
On road, wheels are much much more important.

But off-road i do not want a single component made out of steel, it rusts, it's heavier and in the end if we speak about frames it is also more expensive to manufacture (ok forget about sales prices, just talking about manufacturing)

Weight does matter for me since i earn my descends one meter at a time, pedaling, pushing and carrying the bloody bike on my shoulders, 2000 meters up is a normal day, 3000 meters up is a good day, 4000 meters.... not done yet.
F
  • + 2
 @Keit: I'm after a Murmur but need to sell a kidney first Smile
  • + 3
 @flavio-san: I'll lend you my Swoop and I can assure you you will walk away with a very changed opinion. I was always a keen adopter of the latest technologies and in marketing terms I am a key group referred to as a "Technofreak" ie first adopter. In short I have a long history of what is in retrospect a big box of marketing rubbish. And not just in Bicycles, Audiophile, Videophile, Computer Solutions Engineer, RC Cars and Real Cars, actually anything with a wheel on it that spins. Of late this sport is more driven by marketing than us. We all have followed the rabbit in its hole.
Rust and weight are very poor arguments against something that truly is tried and tested. Please spare us with a rhetoric where you start comparing bicycle engineering with that of automobiles or aircraft; this is a common next phase of the discussion.
Somewhere in this thread a person made the best statement: a combination of materials is the correct answer. I fully agree. On that point I am entirely sold on good carbon wheels, as they are imho a significant improvement despite the added vibrations (and my 6th Elements have outlived any alloy rimmed wheelset that has seen the same mileage under me). Cranks on the other hand I will not touch carbon again. Handlebars still stuck in the middle. Magnesium flat pedals yes please. And so forth.
The short version. I am a lazy person who enjoys riding downhill but I need to get up the hill. I have tried and owned every type of bike and materials in this sport and nothing has allowed me to pedal up a hill so easily and enjoy the descent equally afterwards as the blue and orange bike I have now.
So to close I would gladly lend my bike for someone to try who is in disbelief. This offer has two sides. I am human and thus I would like to be proven right and the second being an ecological item which should be important to all cyclists and outdoor types. Plastics and alloys are extremely dirty in manufacturing. Steel has its downsides also; nothing is perfect. But there is longevity. A steel frame will outlive all counterparts except titanium.
  • + 2
 @fartymarty: well that is rather extreme. I am sure a good piggy bank and a pint or two less in a week and you will be there in no time. You will not regret giving Joe the equivalent of a Kidney. He takes care of his customers. Sometimes a bit short on words, but the niggles I have had he has always addressed and in very timely fashion. Unlike the many other Big Brands, which will as a result not receive a penny from me again.
  • + 2
 @Keit: I quite drinking about 8 years ago and smoking about 7 years ago... sadly riding is my only vice. I have spoken to Joe over email and he seems like an awesome guy and knows his stuff. I do love the look of their bikes. The only thing that is close in terms of looks is the Swarf but it doesn't have the same killer geometry and i'm not sure if it is even in production.
  • + 1
 @fartymarty: wow chapeau. Then you have no vice really. How is riding a vice. Its freedom on wheels. I unfortunately love many toys.
  • + 1
 @

Sadly one snapped at Revs Bike park couple of weeks ago, not sure of reason, but owner was gutted.
All bikes can snap, problem is with small manufacturers ( and yonan extent large) the customer does the R and D!!
  • + 1
 @Keit: Now that's a home coffee setup!
  • + 1
 @Murfdog: which frame was this?
  • + 1
 @flavio-san: Steel frame should not have a rust issue if it's prepped properly. There's usually an anti-rust coating on the inside, and paint on the out. There are Ti bikes too. Like the Nordest Bardino Ti hardtail. Looking forward to when some of these steel MTN brands do stainless or Ti in a full sus.

In terms of weight, I bet a Ti bike could be built up very competitive in terms of weight. I've done the hike a bike over logging trails, climbing on downed timbers. And, yeah... the weight can be notice-able. But, I am going to switch to a steel frame. Very likely this PP Shan.
  • + 0
 @flavio-san: I forgot to mention. You say carbon is cheaper. But I disagree. Although the dollar cost is lower, the long term cost is higher. Look at the environmental impact, the lack of recycling options, and the health hazards, and you will see carbon has a lot of hidden costs, that I for one, am no longer willing to pay.
  • + 1
 @winko: And functionally, my tacoma goes the same speed limit as a Ferrari in the US, but I still want one...

Sometimes it isn't about the practicality...its about how it makes you feel.
  • + 6
 That complete JPS build is a work of art, such an aesthetically pleasing bike to look at!! Good work Engineers/Designers!
  • + 3
 @ProductionPrivee You guys rock!

This is going to be my next bike. Been wanting to preorder the yellow frame, but you're out of stock in my size. But, I'm patiently waiting. The rolling chassis option is awesome. Would like more color options, but I understand that you guys are relatively new.

One question I think people are bound to ask... If it can fit 27.5+, then can it run 29? If not, would love to see a 29er version. That would be Sick!
  • + 1
 I looked into it. You can short shock the stock rear shock and limit travel by 10mm which would thereby give you the proper clearance needed to not have a 29 wheel hit the seatstay. If I recall correctly, the resultant effective travel would be approx. 115mm
  • + 1
 @ledude: As long as the geo number are good, short travel 29ers are a blast. Would love to see the steel version of the Evil Following. At least in terms of geo.
  • + 3
 Rolling chassis is nothing new. Some UK brands like Cotic and Stanton have done it for quite a while now. Frame only option would be good. A Williams Nigel Mansell no.5 would be a good colour combo for me
  • + 3
 Thanks for mentioning Cotic. I don't understand how they don't get more play, as their steel full-sussers look to be the most available.
  • + 6
 This world needs more bikes with racecars inspired liveries
  • + 2
 "The Stig has come in Andorra" Did he test the bike before they put the seat on? Eh les mecs de Production Privée, vous n'avez pas les moyens de vous payer un traducteur ? PM me!
  • + 2
 Je suis moins cher.

I think they are willing to keep this brand image : small production, avid French speaking bikers who make... honest French speaking English mistakes.
  • + 2
 @Uuno: So shonky English (and boy is this text shonky) can actually boost sales for a small craft brand, or at least not harm them? Interesting... I suppose if you imagine it's being read to you by Cecile Ravanel then it could work... They could have got this proofread by a pro for "a few" quid and published something more respectable imo. Anyone else give a shit?
  • + 2
 @Uuno: Damn it, why did I look at their English website...
  • + 4
 The worst intro ever. Maybe 10 years ago a reference to the Stig would be pretty relevant. Cringe.
  • + 3
 just FYI, if you come riding by me on one with the "slap" sticker on it...i'm chasing you down and slapping the living crap out of you.
  • + 1
 That was too funny. I actually laughed. Really well done edit. Physical comedy isn't that easy to do. It has to be overplayed but just barely. Never saw physical comedy in a bike edit like that. The rock at the end was the best.
  • + 5
 @ProductionPrivee can you please make a 29 version.
  • + 2
 This is definitely the N+1 bike of my dreams. Keep it going, Privee one day I hope to have the extra cash to throw your way, you deserve it, excellent work.
  • + 4
 Forget John Player specials I’m waiting for the marlboro one
  • + 3
 > (the Stig is laconic)

True, but I think in context you might have meant iconic? Smile
  • + 0
 I really appreciate a steel hardtail (I even own a Production Privee Shan hardtail). But for the life of me, I cannot figure out why someone would want a steel FS bike? I could possibly see an argument for long term durability, but .......
  • + 1
 @JDFF How much does the Shan weigh?
Just curious. Have never been on a proper steel bike, apart from some old school rides.
  • + 1
 @Milko3D: I can't recall exactly. I'm sure numbers are posted online. Id say a general rule of thumb is a good steel hardtail weighs about a pound or two less than a similarly built 6" FS bike. Depending on what/where you ride a steel hardtail is really worthwhile. It is also worth mentioning that not all steel frames ride the same. The high end steel frames do ride better. Design, welds, quality of steel etc.. all factor in.
  • + 1
 @Milko3D: my PP Shan is the best riding steel hardtail frame I have owned. (I have had about 4-5 other steel hardtails.)
  • + 1
 @JDFF: Whew! Sounds like you need some healthy legs and lungs to pedal/carry that uphill! I'm curious to try one.
  • + 2
 Steel has a different feel (I personally like it better than aluminum). It dampens vibration much better and can have a touch of compliance which makes it feel stiff and soft at the same time, if that makes sense. Been on steel FS for like 5 years now. Don't care to go back, and carbon is too damn expensive.
  • + 1
 @Peregrinebikes: I totally agree about the feel of steel over aluminum or even carbon. But my experience with steel has only been with hardtails. I guess I assumed that frame material characteristics went out the window, once rear suspension comes in. But I can see what you are saying. Thanks.
  • + 1
 @Milko3D: I guess it just depends on your style of riding and where you ride. In my region 3-4000' climbs are tolerated on 28-32lb bikes and no one really gets hung up on bike weight. Going up is a grind, no hurry. Going down is what counts.
  • + 1
 @JDFF: Huh, when you put it that way it doesn't seem so bad.

My Fritzz is 15kg (33lbs) pedals included. It's got 180 non lockable fork and a nice climbing non-friendly 65.5 head angle. It's a joy to ride uphill. The rest of my kit isn't the lightest either. 1000-2000m (3000-6000') up are a challenge but not a deal breaker.

I guess steel just sounds heavy.
I'm gonna keep my eyes open for any test rides around. Thanks for clearing it up for me!
  • + 1
 Would love to give this beast a test ride. Pretty much exactly what I'd want if I was on the market so long as it rode as well as it looks.
  • + 2
 You can even take the components from your old bike to build it up! If you bought your old bike this year.
  • + 2
 Some say is kit is even cleaner than Troy Brosnan's
  • + 1
 love the rolling chasis thing! Andorra is cool...as commencal is doing it as well with "a la carte" option
  • + 1
 Absolutely gorgeous bike.
  • + 1
 I like the shape of that Nolan helmet. Is that an MX one?
  • + 1
 Great vid, even nicer looking bike! Steel is real
  • + 1
 2800 for a bike you can't ride, 3500 for the whole thing... ?
  • + 0
 The Stig can shred. But, I just have to be a d!ck about this wheel size thing, so, no 29'er no care.
  • + 1
 Why no Kash post to match
  • + 0
 Does someone have a link for the geometry specs? Can't find them on their website referenced above.
  • + 1
 Apparently every model comes with GX Eagle...
  • + 1
 There are Eagles everywhere... 1x11 is hardly seen on 2018 models.
  • + 1
 The most expensive bike features a XX1 drivetrain. Little mistake in the description imo.
  • + 0
 The stig looks like kody clark lol
  • + 1
 Or does he look like Lucas Bruder....
  • + 1
 wheels too small
  • + 0
 Fairly sure the BBC owns the "The Stig" trademark...
  • + 8
 Ok Debbie Downer.
  • + 1
 @seraph: Yeah, it's hard to get excited about new bikes with so many cats dying of feline AIDS
  • + 1
 That looks sodding nice.
  • + 0
 Sorry, but I really don't like the look of it at all! Frown
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