Propain is Testing a Prototype DH Bike

Oct 27, 2020
by Propain Factory Racing  

PRESS RELEASE: Propain

Here at Propain, we have redesigned much of our bike line over the last year on the platform of the Propain Pro 10 suspension system. Given some benefits to the system, we have decided to test the same concept in a longer travel version. Here is a first stage prototype Propain we are using as a test mule to understand if it should be the replacement for the current Rage DH design.



Propain Factory Racing junior rider Luke Williamson squeezed in a day of riding between Maribor and Lousa and seems happy to hit practice on it here to gain some valuable feedback. Propain's main elite rider George Brannigan, coming into this event with an injured hand, hasn't been able to test ride the bike yet, so he has decided to stick with what he knows for now but says he is keen az to carry out some back to back testing after the race this weekend.



We don't have any numbers on the geometry or suspension ratios etc to share as of yet. The bike is set up with a mixed wheel size configuration and has 215mm of travel, the same as the current rage. Details will follow if the bike goes into production.



Photos by Kuba Gzela





90 Comments

  • 135 1
 These bikes look S O D A M N G O O D
  • 3 0
 I can tell you that the Propain bikes I’we ridden riders good as they look!
  • 1 0
 These have always caught my eye, and this new creation is just gorgeous!
  • 77 0
 A...carbon....prototype?
  • 44 2
 Pinkbike review tomorrow Big Grin
  • 25 0
 Yeah if it's already in carbon it's pretty damn close to production.
  • 2 5
 The article says it is a test mule. So that'd imply quite rough and not even close to a prototype.
  • 7 1
 Pretty sure that main and rear triangle are from Spindrift and "prototype" parts are cnc linkages.
  • 5 0
 @shoshy: pretty sure it is just communication strategy, production is already ready to go
  • 2 0
 Even though the carbon molds are finished, it doesn't mean they are done with the carbon layup, which is the part of developing a frame which can take the most time and also be the most difficult to get right.
  • 4 0
 @megatryn: 1 weekend of race and the season is over, then no DH avaliable on propain site for 2021 season... I really believe they will reveal it soon
  • 1 0
 Not saying it is necessarily the case here, but just because the moulds are done does not mean they are not playing around with the layup.
  • 5 1
 @shoshy: Yeah, there are different ways to go about with a mule. One is to make something rough out of steel and weld on and remove parts until you're happy, like Specialized did with the 2006 Specialized Enduro bike. One other would be to make a very modular system on which you can replace or shift components. In a way, a full suspension bike is just that, because of the different parts that make up the rear suspension. That seems to be the case here indeed. They got the production front triangle they already have and are playing with custom links to experiment. Once they're happy (or reached the limitations of what they can do with the current pivot locations on that front triangle) they'll redesign the front triangle. Once they're there, we can indeed call it a prototype and if they're happy, they'll make durable molds for the production version. But as they say it is currently a mule, I don't see a reason to assume it isn't.

As for making carbon prototypes, a mold doesn't necessarily have to be machined out of metal. If you want to make a small series, you can use wood. If you only want a single product, machine the rough shape out of styrofoam, add a ceramic paste and after curing, machine the final shape. That mold may last only a single product but it is cheap and quick to do.
  • 1 0
 @shoshy: the rear triangle on the spindrift has that vertical connection between chain and seat stays only on the non drive side i think, and no brace between the seat stays either. Rear triangle is def. new, front looks new as well.
  • 1 0
 Front triangle is definitely not the spindrift, there's no room for the dropper.
  • 1 0
 @shoshy: have you ever seen a spindrift? these two frames aren't even close to the same
  • 48 0
 Best looking bikes in the market in my opinion!
  • 3 26
flag jomacba (Oct 27, 2020 at 16:56) (Below Threshold)
 V10
  • 4 3
 @jomacba: show me a V10 with a vertical shock lol
  • 7 20
flag jomacba (Oct 27, 2020 at 17:28) (Below Threshold)
 @mhoshal: Your comment was "Best looking bikes on the market". My response was V10. As in, my opinion would be a V10, which this bike shows a tremendous amount of resemblance.
  • 20 0
 The phoenix 29 looks awesome too.
  • 7 1
 @jomacba: You must have forgotten what a V10 looks like since this has about the same resemblance to a V10 as a Glory does. Different link configuration, shock orientation and placement. In fact it has far more in common with a Glory if anything.
  • 3 0
 @TheBrosCloset: if anything its closer to the old diamondback knuckle box suspension...haha
  • 4 6
 @TheBrosCloset: Well considering I own one, I would say I have a very good understanding of how it looks. I was referring to the aesthetics, not the linkage (although the propain is a VPP). The rear triangle looks like it was taken directly. That being said the glory would fall into the catagory of a DW link, so I would say the linkage itself shares alot more in common with a V10 than a glory.
  • 2 2
 @ybsurf: 100% agree
  • 1 0
 Transition scout the line from the head tube to the back axle is pucker
  • 1 0
 @Ooofff: they stole those lines from the Mondraker Foxy
  • 1 0
 @TheLoamDeranger: yeah I guess Frown
  • 1 0
 @TheBrosCloset: not in terms of linkage rotation which is part of the VPP patent. Santa cruz, intense and propain use clockwise rotation on the lower and counter clockwise up top and giants maestro links rote clockwise top and bottom. Same goes for the DW linkage bikes. That's just a side note on your claim.
Appart from this fundamental point, the aesthetics are way closer to a glory in terms of shock placement but that's it.
The propain bikes are well designed machines that are also ridden by engineers of other brands... (which is mostly a good sign for the performance)
  • 24 0
 If that is a prototype i´ll eat my shoe.
There´s nothing proto about that bike. The carbon frame, heck even the links are definitely full production.
Why do manufacturers think they need to keep their bikes a "secret", when they´re gonna release them three weeks later anyways?
The current Rage CF models aren´t even available on the homepage anymore ffs lol

It does look damn nice though and if they can keep the pricing of the recent models this is a hot contender for 2021!
  • 24 0
 If you can't figure out a way to prevent leaked images, just tell everyone about yourself...
  • 11 0
 The OnlyFans Effect
  • 19 0
 Protopain?
  • 29 0
 and protopain accessories
  • 3 0
 Thanks Mr. Hill
  • 9 0
 Propain bikes are so damn sexy. A Hugene and a Spindrift as the perfect 2-bike garage?
  • 5 0
 Hi Propain Cycles, all your new bikes look fantastic! I’m looking for a 29” short-ish travel trail bike with modern geometry, so for the love of God, please update your Hugene!
Thaaanks
  • 3 0
 There is no way that is a prototype lol glad to see the new design though I was never a fan of the shock being right next to the tire.
  • 1 0
 I was really close to ordering a Rage earlier this month...Pretty sure i will wait as long as they release the new DH bike before June next year when most places around me open for lift access. The Rage was amazingly sexy...this is whole nother level!
  • 1 0
 A great bike, on a great spot (Talasnal village). Would be awesome to see it in action, flying down all those stairs around that spot Big Grin
Thanks Kuba Gzela, for sharing with the rest of the world one of the most beautifull schist villages from Lousã.
  • 5 1
 Looks like it could even fit a water bottle in the front triangle . . .
  • 3 0
 Anyone ridden the new Propain bikes yet? They are so tempting, and for the price and spec too.
  • 1 0
 The new spindrift reviews are amazing, just waiting for the AL version to come out.
For 3200€ you can get fox 38, DHX2, Magura brakes, and fox transfer. ????
  • 3 0
 Is that a flip chip system in the last photo?
  • 2 0
 Likely!
  • 2 0
 Looks like it'll raise/lower the BB and slacken/steepen the bike. Possibly two settings for 29/27.5 rear wheel setups.
  • 2 0
 @PatMAE: 100% willing to bet it's a 29/27.5 flip.
  • 1 0
 Looks to be mullet already.... chip is in the high setting and lining up tyre heights back is smaller
  • 3 0
 I lose it every time I see a Propain bike.
  • 2 0
 Production ready looking Carbon Prototype ? Wow, must have a really good year at propaine :-)
  • 1 0
 Some serious confidence in the design or money to burn if that is a first stage prototype test mule.
  • 2 0
 I dunno why but this one reminds me my old one Yeti 303. Miss him.. Anyway, in Propaine made realy nice looking frame.
  • 1 0
 Funny enough, I was just looking at the links and thinking they'd actually perform similarly to Yeti's switch infinity linkage too. Obviously the devel's in the details, but that long lower link looks like it'd be able to provide a near-vertical lower pivot movement like the sliders on Yeti's SI. Been thinking about this a lot because I love the SI suspension, but have been wondering if you could get a virtually identical result from a long, forward-mounted lower link like this bike appears to have instead of those little sliders on the Yetis.
  • 2 0
 I'm starting to like these more and more.
  • 1 0
 Wow! Take my money!!! That is beautiful Drool

Please sell these to North America! I would love to own a Propain!
  • 1 0
 Who owns these bikes? And in what geographical location are they most owned?? ;(
  • 2 0
 idk. and probably germany?
  • 2 0
 The are a lot here in the south of Germany.
  • 1 0
 if this is the new design then I’m not happy.
Only bought mine 6 months agoFrown
  • 2 0
 Damn. Their bikes just keep getting better looking.
  • 1 0
 Am I the only one that sings Lahey's Propane song whenever one of these pop up?
  • 1 0
 I wish all their bikes had symmetrical rear triangles like this. Not just for aesthetics, but also stiffness.
  • 1 0
 was their previous bike a solid rear triangle??
  • 1 0
 I believe so
  • 1 0
 All of Propain Bikes with the pro10 rear have the VPP design. Work's really well, small bump's are nothing even with the older rigs..
  • 1 0
 Not gonna lie, really like the vertical shock concept.
  • 1 0
 Agreed
  • 1 0
 Of course that MEO thing in the plate
  • 1 0
 DAMM those propain’s just keep looking better and better!
  • 1 0
 Best looking dh bike in a decade.
  • 1 0
 shock compressible on both sides? reminded me of evil undead)
  • 1 0
 Literally every single one of them
  • 1 0
 You could fit a water bottle in there - missed opportunity!!
  • 1 0
 What's the advantage of compressing a shock from top and bottom?
  • 1 0
 Ask Mr. Maestro
  • 1 0
 Cool design. Will it fly?
  • 1 0
 if is it cool, it flies
  • 1 0
 Stole one of my suspension designs I hand drew on paper in 2013
  • 1 0
 So moist and juicy.
  • 1 0
 Yeah, proto in carbon!
  • 1 0
 Protato chip
  • 1 0
 Lousã? Nice BIKE
  • 1 0
 full revew tomorow
  • 1 0
 Bottle cage?
  • 1 0
 Love the unique shape !
  • 1 0
 All of the wants
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