Qualifying Results - Lourdes DH World Cup 2017

Apr 29, 2017
by Pinkbike Staff  
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1 // Loris Vergier
2 // Loic Bruni
3 // Luca Shaw
4 // Danny Hart
5 // Aaron Gwin



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2 // Rachel Atherton
3 // Manon Carpenter



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311 Comments
  • 217 6
 The internet is gonna explode!!! Wagon wheels sitting in the #1, #3, and #6 qualifying spots so far!!!!
  • 63 3
 yes it will. Holy shit Vergier you sick bastard, that burn
  • 20 1
 crazy stuff! Wonder how many we will see by the end of the season then...
  • 67 2
 looks like 29ers can work very well on a technical track... I can already see Minnaar winning Ft Bill again
  • 6 0
 Exactly my thought. Gonna be exciting tomorrow! Smile
  • 63 38
 Or are three very good riders in a position that they probably would have been were they riding 650b wheels.....
  • 5 1
 I'm crying
  • 62 16
 Nothing against Vergier or Shaw, but JEEZ, this looks like the "klapschaats" revolution in speed skating, when, in 1997, Tonny de Jong beat Gunda Niemann for the EC, not because she was better but because she had better material.
  • 7 52
flag neroleeloo (Apr 29, 2017 at 6:45) (Below Threshold)
 @phatcapone: Lourdes a technical track ?????????????????????
  • 184 1
 @mi-bike: nobody knows what you are talking about, but I upvoted you because it seems like a good point.
  • 76 4
 Never waded in on this one before, but upon seeing those results my first thought was, and i'm sorry for this, but 26 might be a little bit dead..
  • 10 2
 @mi-bike: exactly what I was thinking
  • 4 2
 @Aprilfisheye: a href="http://www.iceskatesmuseum.com/e-bn-ned-2.htm"> www.iceskatesmuseum.com/e-bn-ned-2.htm /a>
  • 50 3
 Everyone needs to calm down. 29ers have advantages and disadvantages over the smaller size. Look at the EWS where 29ers have been raced by a good percentage of riders for years, and on tracks that suit the larger size better. 29ers can compete in the EWS, but they don't automatically dominate.
  • 13 2
 @DC1988: I think that's irrelevant. If 29ers start stuffing the podiums, everyone will (be forced to) follow suit.
  • 35 2
 @mi-bike: But is this isn't a case of them sneaking up on the competition with a new idea or something that is unobtainable, is it?

29ers have been around for years and years now - It wouldn't be a huge job for any larger manufacturer to run off a swingarm for their DH bike, pop a shorter shock in and angle headset and squeeze the wheel into a 27.5 fork (they just about fit, but they could machine a bit off no problem for testing)

Every manufacturer is always making protos and developing their bikes - this should be no different.

Do some timed runs, see if there is a difference and push for a true race-able bike.

This is not a money no object development, its common sense off-season testing applied in the real world.
  • 11 19
flag jclnv (Apr 29, 2017 at 7:13) (Below Threshold)
 @hamncheez: If Richie was on a 29" he would win by an even larger gap IMO.
  • 13 2
 @deadmeat25: my first thought was 275 is dead.
  • 9 2
 Qualies are the finals.
  • 16 0
 Sorry, qualies aren't the finals. Could be a whole new leaderboard.
  • 10 0
 @Racer951: nobody knows what I'm talking about, but the clap skate had been around for decades, before the NL development team was the first to take them to the big stage. And won. It took only a couple of years for all pro's to be using them.
  • 9 4
 @ibishreddin: But it isn't, it is my firm belief that 27.5 will live on, not only in our hearts and minds but on the back end of most DH bikes in the future.. Odd wheels is the way forward Smile
  • 3 3
 @deadmeat25: For smaller riders with tire clearance issues you're right.
  • 2 1
 @mi-bike: Ah fair enough, same kind of thing then, somebody has to take the plunge first.
  • 3 0
 @jclnv: he has the choice and Im sure they time them. Its not exactly that cut and dry regardless of this quali result. Ews proved it. Nino proved it. Miniscule difference to us mere mortals too. Been there done that rode everly size under the stars.
  • 2 0
 @mi-bike: thanks buddy! I'll try and educate myself about that. Wink
  • 12 14
 If the Syndicate boys end up 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 3rd place is 3 min faster than 4th, then and only then, will I say "hmm, must be the wheel size"
  • 13 4
 @OGBrowner: Its a long season, be interesting to see what happens but I wouldn't be naïve, Santa Cruz know for a fact the bikes are faster - they will have tested them, this will be a scientific fact, that's why they are using them.
  • 3 0
 @atrokz: You'd be amazed how many don't do accurate timed runs on various tracks and simply go on 'feel'.

Nino is definitely faster now relative to the competition since switching.

Ridden everything too. For me it's night and day.
  • 15 2
 @deadmeat25: don't you mean 27.5 is dead? Cos if 29ers are faster to race, and 26ers are preferred for freeride, park riding, jump/slope, 4x,slalom and are generally regarded as more fun, surely it's not 26" that's redundant?
  • 11 15
flag deadmeat25 (Apr 29, 2017 at 7:53) (Below Threshold)
 @alexhyland: No, I think over time you'll find 26" phased out everywhere, it's apparent that they don't really have any advantage in any discipline.
  • 22 2
 @deadmeat25: Dirt jump, rampage type events, slopestyle, messing about, pump tracks - the market will be limited but it does exist.
  • 1 2
 @DC1988: No chance
  • 5 1
 @herzalot: and only once they do will Shaw and Vergier get the recognition they deserve. Until then everyone will just keep saying it's the wheels. Idiots.
  • 15 1
 @jclnv: ear to the ground brings up that several teams tested them, a certain team with shorter riders said it didn't work out for them, and that two of the larger enduro outfits had the choices available and did testing. it's not as cut and dry as everyone pretends they are, using mostly ancidotal evidence. I'm sure it's slightly quicker for a lot of DH riders and tracks, however. But there's more to it than slapping a 29" wheel in a current frame a *presto* 3 seconds faster! The V10 kinda lucks out with it's design allowing the change to work nicely, some frame designs will struggle to work and if some teams want it, will see some new protos in the near future. should be a fun year for us nerds, but I hope this doesn't distract from the fact that Louis and Dean were already on their rise to the top and Minnar has always been a podium contender since 2000.....
  • 16 4
 @deadmeat25: Perhaps...but if 29" takes over DH racing, I'd say there's just as much chance of 27.5" being dead and 26" making a comeback as the fun, freeride/park bike wheel size. It would make sense to have a clear cut distinction between the two disciplines...and if that happens, everyone knows 26" is more fun and playful than 27.5". The middle wheelsize may just go down in history as a short lived stop-gap.
  • 46 3
 Gwin is going to bring out his Jeffsy on Sunday
  • 3 0
 @atrokz: fair points.
  • 3 0
 @jclnv: You stoked?!!! I don't think I've been as excited for a season in a while! So many team changes and new developments, going to be an awesome season!
  • 4 1
 @atrokz: Yeah I guess. I'm getting old and while I've been a park rat in the past and just for a new 160mm, I enjoy watching (and racing) the XC the most these days. Weird eh! But yeah I love the tech too.
  • 5 0
 @OGBrowner: how is your comment downvoted? Makes perfect sense to me, these are all too riders and could easily be on the podium with their 27.5 wheels so unless they win by a massive margin it's as much to do with the rider as it is the wheels.
  • 12 0
 @mi-bike: after 15 minutes of in depth Internet clap skate research I can confidently say I agree with your analogy. I now also wish to own some klapschaats even though I've never skated before.
  • 5 0
 @mi-bike: You make it sound like it's not fair... Every rider has the option to use 29" wheels if they want to... If 29" wheels end up being fastest then those riders using 27.5" wheels will be feeling pretty stupid!
  • 4 0
 @lochussie: Every year the technology changes, whether it's suspension, brakes or wheels... To take the credit away from a rider just because they're using new technology means that every rider to win every race in history only won because of their equipment!
  • 6 1
 Proof is in the pudding as they say - May the Syndicate podium or not tomorrow that is one heck of a pudding out of the Santa Cruz oven right there.

Does seem the (r)evolution is on indeed.

That said you have to consider you have the rider who's won the most world cups of all time and two hot hot young guns with a great attitude on that tight knit team. No lack of pure talent to ride those new V10's.

That race is definitely going to be interesting. Our sport is kick ass!
  • 2 0
 @mi-bike: Idk, I mean when you look at the final overall results from last year and also consider Vergier and Shaw are young (i.e. morel likely they will continue to improve), I don't think you could boil it down to the minute increase in wheel size. Don't get me wrong, I'm not nay-saying here - I have been on 29ers for awhile, trying 27.5 but returning to 29 because they seemed faster (less playful, better for speed). However, from a statistical point of view, it would be really hard to draw any real conclusions other than "the fast guys are still fast on 29ers"; basically you can't say they are better at this point, but you can say they don't seem to be a detriment.
  • 4 0
 @jclnv: I think Richie rides what Richie feels best on. Not to be a dick but if any of the knowledgeable people he is surrounded by thought that, he would already be on one.
  • 1 0
 @DC1988: let's not even go there! I think proof is in the 29 pudding! ????
  • 2 1
 @Racer951: ehh... They will know that they are at least no worse and that the riders feel at least as good on them as they do the smaller bikes. If a bike is no faster, statistically, but a big dude like Minaar says he feels better on it, they will put him on one.
  • 1 0
 @alexhyland: back to 2012!
  • 5 0
 @billreilly: very few DH teams have the option to just go on a 29er whenever they want, the Syndicate lucked out because they had all the necessary forks, wheels, and tires to use in addition to a big enough budget to make new molds for their carbon frames (the rear end, at least). Teams on Rockshox, DVO, Suntour, Kenda, Hutchison, Schwalbe, Continental, et al, will have a lot of catching up to do.
  • 1 0
 @imho4ep: Unchained no doubt!
  • 5 3
 @deadmeat25: Haha 26 is dead! But like many diagnoses, there are those that will always be in denial!
  • 3 1
 @hamncheez: I think as geo progresses further you will see more ews 29 podiums! Only a matter of time..
  • 1 0
 SCIENCE!!!
  • 2 0
 @OGBrowner: 3 - 5 seconds is probably more appropriate
  • 7 2
 @Verbl-Kint: They ALL have the option!... 29" wheels have been around for years, and 29" forks are also available to everybody to play with and adapt... You make it sound like Santa Cruz have superpowers that nobody else has, but all the top teams have budgets and resources to make it happen... You don't think Specialized have the budget or resources necessary?... Give me a break!

Just because the other teams have been sitting on their butts and not experimenting means that they just aren't as innovative as they should be!

If you snooze you lose!
  • 5 0
 With all the hype people are forgetting that with the team changes the syndicate became a much faster team probably because of the new riders. No disrespect to Peaty or Ratboy but the didn't have their old form in the last season(s). Wereas Shaw and Vergier were constantly in the top10 and did pull of this results in qualy before...
  • 6 0
 @Racer951: From comments, if your team isn't sponsored by maxxis, you don't have tires yet.
  • 4 0
 @Racer951: quality front suspension (or lack there of) is what kept it from happening. With a 40 now available it's going to change the DH RACING market.

Now for all the regular gravity geeks out here, 27.5 (&26) is where it's at cause most just ride for fun and want a playful bike.
  • 5 0
 @Stampers: agree with your second point. As some have already said - WCDH is reaching a point where race bikes are so specialised that they're useless outside of top level competition. Everyone getting all doomsday about the industry pushing 29ers and '27.5 is dead' bs doesn't get it. A 29" dh bike is good for one thing only - going fast. 27.5" DH (and 26 for that matter) are still gonna be the bike for amateurs. Most brands already have a top tier 'race' ready frameset alongside a more 'playful', simplified frameset - I don't see that changing, only the race bikes get racier and the park bikes stay parky.
  • 20 4
 @Stampers: playful bike is an absolutely meaningless term, just like technical riding. It doesn't describe anything, the sole purpose of using it is to bluff others that you possess some special set of skills. I like playful bike: oh so you do whips and stoppies on XC ride, right?

Maybe riding straight through rock gardens is someone's idea of play?

One thing is sure, 29ers are fkng fast and offer unique handling, regardless of Syndicate's results. 27.5 brought absolutely nothing to the table and it fkd up quite a lot of pockets. A spawn of bored to death, fukless geeks with midlife crisis who had no idea about riding a mountain bike, who back in 2007 somehow saw a great potential in a new wheel size. They were stuffing some shitty Kenda tyres on terrible rims into 26" frames or worse, into 650B frames of the time (like some fkng Haro with 71!!!!!! Degree head angle). At that time you could buy Spec Stumpjumper, Nomad, Yeti 575, yet those dumb twats led by Kirk Pacenti, had a fkng nerve to say that their bikes ride better. So in 2012 we were all faced with this costly 650B bullsht. I wish dick herpes to everyone involved. It was supposed to stay as 26 and 29 but you got your revenue and stuffed us with tons of bullsht you fks who will always be Motocross' little brother.
  • 4 2
 @WAKIdesigns: I always think the same thing when the words 'fun' and 'playful' come out - like the rest of us aren't having fun on our bikes?
Smashing into and over the roughest lines I can find and doing it fast is what I like most when I'm on real trails but I also like to go to hit the jump lines in the same day, the next run even. And that's where the 29er fell down for me. I hit some of the biggest jumps I'd done but I did so in a straight air/ turn bar fashion and that's about all I could get those big wheels to do.
I'm riding a 26 at the mo, it slows quickly on the rough but I can whip it.
So 27.5 seems like a good compromise to me. Even though I kind of agree with everything you said about KP and his croneys.
  • 3 0
 @WAKIdesigns: although I won't disagree with a single thing you said 27.5 has helped pave the way as far as trail bike geometry advancements which of course then helped DH bikes as well. Not to mention how the "invention" of boost spacing has helped stiffen up wheels. The biggest area of past 29er failure. Basically what I'm saying is back in 2007 the industry tried to push for 29er's to take off but they just weren't ready. The midsize wheels have, although frustratingly, helped advanced technology to where the modern 29 bike is fast, stout, and rediculously fun to ride. They're not just for XC anymore.
  • 6 0
 Has anyone pointed out its the 29th of April too?
  • 4 1
 @WAKIdesigns: f*cking right. Tell it. "27.5 this, 27.5 that", it's gd 27, glorified 26 that got a bunch of morons to jump on the bandwagon. Congrats, now you all get to buy 29ers, after bitching and complaing about them while having no idea what you were even talking about.
  • 1 0
 @pimpin-gimp thanks, that what I was getting at

@tblore you're right, that's what I meant. My down votes are appropriate for my misprint
  • 6 1
 @ThomDawson: and @dynamatt - you are both wrong about 275 improving geometries. At least there is no way you can say that it was the increase in the wheel size that somehow gave some great numbers - it didn't . Most big companies had their 26" bike models unchanged since 2010/2011, which means that 2013 (the year when 275 shit hit the fan) was already a time to revamp their lines. Check it out Trek, Spec, Giant still had 26ers in 2012. So if 275 never happened, the 2013-2014 models would be longer and slacker.

Now evolutionary branches of 275 and 29 have nothing to do with each other. Around 2010, the vast majority of 29ers handled like shit but the advantage of increased grip and monster truck roll over was already there. As the first 275 bikes rolled out in 2024, Spesh made Stumpjumper 29 Evo and that was a fkng hell of a bike that instantly made you feel: what is this 275 bullsht about when you can have that?

Now, if we look at 26" bike as a point of reference to judge current bikes, we can easily see that 29ers offer a new quality to ride. So do plus bikes. 275 doesn't really offer anything. The whole thing was a one big scam, each single bullet point on the list of advantages was bullcrap. Increased contact patch? - Oh really? I get more change when I forget to check pressure or put a fatter tyre on, BB drop in realtion to wheel axles is bigger thus more stability- bullshit, what you want to be interested in is relation BB/grips to contact patches of tyres, this dictates 99% of physics related to bike handling.
  • 4 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Mass media are plying with your brains guys... basically you are talking about 0.422 (or 0.6 Danny) seconds retards of 27.5 bikes in 3 minute descent world cup downhill with same level guys (more or less) same track same conditions. In the real world, you compete in a dh race or enduro race (or worst case with STRAVA) with completely different peoples, from different training to diffeent breakfast before the race . The puzzle is huge. Lots of combinations. A lot more than a wc course. Take it easy. Changes from 26 to 27.5 to 29 is bb/grips is real ok, but only on paper for the average joe. Cheers guys
  • 3 0
 @WAKIdesigns: currently dreaming of your anti-27.5 statement being read out verbatim to a round table of suits at a Giant HQ board meeting. Inscrutable faces, clenched fists, skin colour turning beet red.

"And finally, I wish dick herpes to everyone involved."

Long protracted silence.
  • 1 0
 Where is 26 and/or 650b god now?


Oh! I see Gwin was in fifth.
  • 6 0
 @WAKIdesigns: All this hate on 650b and what wheel size does Waki run? 650b.
  • 4 0
 Even more captivating and intense because Minaar, as the veteran, wasn't going to show all his cards in qualis, and likely held back a bit, while Vergier and Shaw, being the young guns, may have been charging with all they had. It will definitely be interesting to see where things end up in the finals. If Minaar was holding back a bit, then there is a legit chance 29" DH bikes go 1/2/3 in their first ever WC weekend, which would make a lot of heads explode. However, Shaw and Vergier would both have to cash the check they wrote in qualis, and may need to find something extra to do it, because you know Brosnan, Gwin, Hart, and Bruni, all vets, saved plenty for race day. One thing is for sure, the stage seems to be set for a reeeeaaally compelling DH season!
  • 2 0
 @mi-bike: that's actually really interesting. Like holeshot / starting devices in motocross
  • 3 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Glad I never got caught up.. Went straight from blur ltc to spec stumpy 29 and bypassed all the bullshit.. Other than the fact the older 29ers were long af!
  • 2 0
 @WAKIdesigns: I didn't mention geo here did I? I don't think 27.5 had much to do with geo, the changes I saw with 27.5 made geo worse imo. Bigger offset forks and more bb drop were both bad for me - making it harder to lift the front end and over compensation on the offset made steering all wierd.
But a 27.5" bike rolls better than a 26 (imo but pretty much fact) and I can still go to the jump spot and actually move the thing in the air.
It may have come about for the wrong reasons but I like 27.5" bikes despite aforementioned geo troubles.
  • 2 0
 PS I don't really like these super long, low, slack bikes either so the idea that 27.5" wheels made things better is false on more than one level for me. You can only go so far before you see large disadvantages in other areas - same with wheel size as it is with geometry. Especially if you rider a quiver killer type bike as most of us do. I'm glad I have the choice of 3 wheel sizes and a broad range of geo. Not really sure where all the hates coming from all of a sudden.
  • 1 1
 @ThomDawson - I don't care if 275 rolls a very tiny bit better than 26. It does. But I'd rather have 1000£ more in my pocket because that's how much it costed me to buy new frame, wheels and fork after trading 26" stuff. Boost DOES make stiffer wheels but, I need to buy a new crankset since Hope I bought it ridiculous. Would I buy XTR or X01 or Next LP? No fkng way. I am buying SLX because if I buy a new frame it will be BOOSTy and I will need new cranks. I personally love new long and slack geo, I was against it before I tried one for a prolongued period of time. My bike is not thaaat long anyways.

@hamncheez: you are joking right? What choice did I have after my 26" frame broke and I wanted a 160 bike with modern(er) geo? I have pretty much same wheelset and same tyres on Anti CJ as I had on Blur TR, why would I volountarily change?

650b was a scheme to boost sales and damage second hand market, if you think they did it to improve our riding experience or to make some pros win races, you are kidding yourself.

The only midway solution that actually does improve riding experience of maaany folks out there, and I speak about amateurs in huge numbers whose buying force makes our sport roll, is the plus tyres. And one could argue hat 26+ is the best of them all by providing very wide contact surface while keeping rotating mass at the lowest of the kind.

Now I guess many of us know what 29" DH bikes mean: new rear hub standard for even wider flanges. So whoever you are: do not invest any bigger money in rear hub or rear wheel if you plan to buy a new DH sled in 2 years.
  • 3 0
 @WAKIdesigns: we have a good mix of riders and bikes in our group, some 26, 27.5 and 29 and all abilities. And I've felt the differences first hand over a short period - my point is that I care. The 26ers get dropped on the rough by the bigger wheels and not only are they going quicker they arrive at the bottom with less fatigue so they can go faster and longer. With 29" wheels this is even more obvious. Though as I said the guys on 29 don't really wanna play on the jumps cus the bikes are difficult to throw around - they have the most fun on the gnar. The guys on 26 are just dead and the guys on 27.5 are having the most fun overall. Analogy over.
Whether you agree with how they came about or not there are merits to 27.5" bikes
  • 4 0
 @WAKIdesigns:

I don't really mind about companies wanting to make money. This is my hobby, hobbies are not meant to be measured against how economically viable they are. It's about how much fun you're having.

I had a 10 year break from MTBs until 3 years ago; my RM6 was falling apart from back in the day so I got an E29 Comp. I loved the monster truck ability, didn't like the amount of commitment it needed from a newb to get it turning. Sold it after doing BCBR, got a Habit SE that was super light but fell apart after 6 days from new during BreckEpic. Now on a $1500 Boardman alloy bike that I'm in love with. 3 bikes in 3 years with a 5010 and Scout test ride in between.

I love the choice at the moment. I love trying things new bikes out. I love the research and dreaming about new bikes. Yes, bikes are stupidly expensive but I'd hate for bike companies to

a) stop trying things
b) go bankrupt from lack of sales
  • 1 1
 @ThomDawson: 275 bike has by average better geometry and componentry, than 26. So you cannot compare them solely on the wheel diameter. 29" wheels make a huge change. Even to 275. Even more with plus tyres. As long as you don't ride dh tracks/ machine dug trails or don't climb super steep sht, the plus just demolishes the field. And the shittier the conditions the better for it. I will be building a 275+/29er for this winter.

@snax001 with your logic we can simply go around bike parks and wreck frames at night. It will be good for bike companies. In exactly same way city on fire is the best thing that happens to economy. Just generate lots of waste and be happy about it. I am sooo happy the battery in my Iphone 6 is dying. I will need to buy a new phone, yaaaay! Well, you could try different things like MTBs on 650B wheels since 2006, and in 2010 you could try a good 650B bike. The issue here is why the hell a niche product should become the main choice for most people? Should we now all ride dropper stems?
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: you had me until you said "componentry." Now I know you have no clue what you're taking about.

Also, 30s.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: the shifts in major trends are helping fund major evolution in bike design. Selling a 1 degree slacker head angle and 10mm more reach is hard. Selling a whole new size of wheel is way easier. I didn't advocate poor durability at all...I do like multiple manufacturers exploring a new trend to see what they can do with it. Bike design evolution is never going to be linear: bike companies still need to survive whilst they explore potentially dead ends in design. All of this builds knowledge and helps in future developments. It's the balance between making profits and evolving design.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: they make a huge change on the negative side too is all I'm saying. I know the advantages all too well! But the equal disadvantages kill the 29er as an all round bike for me. Which leaves me with 275. Have to admit I've never ridden Plus despite wanting to for a long time - always assumed the tyre stability (squirm) would kill that one..?
  • 1 0
 So we actually do have some results from this beta test. The top qualifiers all went down in the same conditions. a few didn't crash, so compare the times.
  • 2 0
 @atrokz: Minnaar by a mile against the top 10.
  • 1 0
 @Verbl-Kint: Yep unreal run compared to Gwin etc.
  • 3 0
 @Verbl-Kint: then the other 2 getting beat by the other guys. so yea, it's not so clear cut. Minnar also does well in the wet historically, plus his size at 6'3" allowed him to run more travel. lots of factors, should be an interesting FtBill where a 29er should shine. Will see a lot of weird protos.

Also, this does in fact mean that there WILL be a 29er V10 for sale within 9 months.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Sorry for the late reply; I couldn't watch the Lourdes race until just now, so I had to stay off pinkbike. But yes, I was joking about the 650b. I was lucky that I skipped straight from 26 to 29, and I've never owned a 650b bike.
  • 1 0
 @atrokz: I can see a 29" V10 being available to the market during the holiday season. However, if the UCI were to rule that only 27.5" wheels were to be allowed in 2018 onwards, then that's a potentially new disruption for the Santa Cruz sales team to worry about.
  • 2 0
 @Verbl-Kint: I can't see them doing that. They barely have rules for DH bikes as it stands. If anything they should allow different sized wheels which would make a bigger difference for the shorter riders imo.
  • 1 0
 @b-mack: Really? Even though you'd struggle to buy a 26er from Halfords now as it is? Wake up, let go, and find peace with being wrong.
  • 2 0
 @deadmeat25: Really. All DJ, park, and pump track bikes are still 26 and many Fest, slalom, and Rampage riders go out of their way to run 26. Maybe you should get a grip and realize you can't be certain of anything in this world, let alone this industry. Cheers
  • 2 0
 @b-mack: Measure the customer base of those disciplines, absolutely all of which represent the very fringe of MTB, against the rest of the industry, and then again against the fact the only ones of those that truly might benefit from smaller wheel, DJ, Park, and Slopestyle, are all doing things with the bike people said could only be done on a BMX. You're right, we can't be certain of many things in this world, but an industry like MTB going backwards is something i would definitely bet against.
  • 1 0
 @deadmeat25: All I can really say is "we shall see"... but to offer an example of something similar:
Square taper bottom brackets were the norm for generations, and then came ISIS/Octalink which claimed to be the "answer" to broken spindles...only to be replaced by Shimano's external BB which has now become the standard (lets ignore press fit for now).... ISIS is now all but dead and gone but interestingly square taper has lived on for it's light weight, narrow q-factor, and robust bearings. Granted, it's a niche market, but the "ancient" square taper BB has outlived its supposed replacement. I have been deep in this sport and industry since 1994 and seen it all come and go and come back again. 26" has roots... roots run deep and are hard to kill.
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 @deadmeat25: By the way, I think this is all hilarious coming from another 40 year old who owns and rides unique and "old" 26 inch DH bikes.... Your BMW is amazing.
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 @b-mack: I agree. People by average are getting better at riding bikes, there's fantastic offer and easy access to real life and online coaching like Lee Likes Bikes or Ryan Leech Connection. People want to practice skills on streets, parking lots, pumptracks, BMX tracks and 26" hardtail just fit the bill perfectly. I doubt if we will ever see a new breed of 26" full suspension bikes, at least for adults. Park / slope style is a very niche sport, inaccessible to the vast majority of riders because it involves too much risks for the reward, for a regular geezer. One thing is sure, XC racers like Emily Batty were gently pushed into 27,5 as it was supposed to suit them more. They came or are coming back to 29" wheels, Nino seems to be the only one left. The bit with 29" wheels and the whole plus thing is that they do have some drawbacks with the range of movement and overal massivness for smaller folks but that involves a very small portion of the trail, like jumps, high speed berms, steeps or very rocky segments where you must use lots of body language. But they kick ass everywhere else, they are faster on 90% of trail surface on 99.9% of trails in the world. Downhill or rather gnarly descending in general is a different animal since suspension plays bigger role than the wheel. At some point wheel simply has to have enough room between the rider and the obstacle. Then the actually skilled riders tend to ride fast enough that they need the bike to change direction in mid air, like jumping into corners, switching directions fast or do tricks and then big wheels have too much inertia. 32"? Well, if super long geo like Geometron or Pole exist and slowly creep into riders minds then well you suddenly have more room for a bigger wheel.

We'll see, the Zen master says we'll see

Cheers!
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 @WAKIdesigns: Haha...you're the best Waki...Cheers!
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 @b-mack: Hey, as much as i love my old bike, i do accept that i may not be able to get wheels and tyres for it for much longer, but that's easy to accept, because i've already accepted the fact that i can't get sprockets, dropouts, eccentric bb shells, axles or any of the other multitude of proprietary parts this bike would need should i break any of them Smile
  • 145 1
 Whoa! Tahnee 1.4secs faster than Rachael. She gained on all splits. We have a race on our hands! Go Tahnee, go get that first win!!
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 1st to 4th (Tracey) less than 4 seconds. Er...actually 3 seconds...
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flag hairy-g (Apr 29, 2017 at 4:42) (Below Threshold)
 So happy someone has beaten Rachel, there's something about her I really don't like, probably the general negative Atherton vibe. Hope Tahnee keeps it up for tomorrow!
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 But Rachel was over 3 seconds up on the first split!
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 Such a gulf in terms of time once you get out of the top five/six. Some of the girls are over a minute slower, on a three minute course. That's a big percentage gap. I'm sure that those slower girls are all damn good riders, but the question still begs...what needs doing to close up the womens field?
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 @bashhard: Yep. Hence Tahnee gaining on all the splits, and hence "game on!". When the fourth split popped up, I was crossing fingers and toes she'd do it...and she did, and took a good chunk out of Rachel on the last section from split 4 to the line.
  • 36 4
 @handynzl: Money. Bike brands have to step up, get ladies signed up to actual programs, get them PTs, training time, testing time, promotion and so on. Most of the women's field are part time racers, they work other jobs to support themselves, a lot don't contest the whole season either. They will never get the chance to close up the field without the backing required to truly focus on racing.
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 @Fix-the-Spade: Agree with all of that. So sad that this has been the situation since I was racing in the early and mid 90's. I'm sure the girls are all committed and competitive in nature, but certainly it has to be a mixture of training and skills coaching.
  • 14 2
 Someone is holding back.
  • 4 2
 @chyu: Not with points on offer, she's not. I'd say (even with lack of video footage), no one was holding back.
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 Rachel was faster in all 4 splits but still slower in the end? What happened?
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 @Rainozeros: No...she was only fastest in the first split, then Tahnee started clipping away at the gaps, thus faster from the first split on.
  • 8 4
 @hairy-g: couldn't agree more
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 @handynzl: it looks like there's more sponsored junior men than elite women. Let alone the junior women that don't even get to be in the same event anymore. With the exception of the girls like Rachel with big Red Bull money, most girls don't seem to get a chance to reach their full racing potential because they have to support their racing on their own. The way the UCI and sponsorship is going it might be a long while before the women are as close and exciting to watch as the men.
  • 50 8
 @freeridegirrrl: Can we all please stop pretending the women are getting a raw deal. They're really not. In fact, they're over-represented and take more than their fair share of coverage already, which the time gaps bear out. There are thousands, if not tens of thousands of junior men who compete in DH around the World, which is why there are plenty of sponsorship opportunities. Whereas the women who are a minute slower than the best have neither the necessary skill or experience to manage the track, let alone a achieve a podium and are most likely the very best of the fifty or so women DH racers in their country. The problem is the numbers competing. And throwing money at these 'elites' is not going to solve the problem because there are far easier ways to earn a living. You should really try to accept that you share your love of this sport with only a tiny sliver of the female population. Denying the reality (and the fairness) of the professional/ elites, and comparing the women's situation with the men's is only ever going to end in frustration. And what's funny is, by harping on about a complete non-issue you're wasting time and effort which could go into providing a more practical approach to increasing the participation of women and girls. Tell me how many sports began with professional ranks and built a base from there as opposed to ones with grassroots with people who did it for the love of it?
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 @Deuce-DeuceAndAHalf: preach!
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 @Deuce-DeuceAndAHalf: He's not wrong.
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 @Deuce-DeuceAndAHalf: right on brother. The irony of those crying "fairness" and the resulting lack thereof by funneling prize money and coverage away from more skilled and qualified to those less, simply becuase they have a different part between their legs. Bigotry of low expectations. Equality should apply to opportunity, not results.
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 long time coming too, it will be nice to see some smaller gaps between the ladies!
  • 6 1
 @freeridegirrrl: Women's jr. racing is on a huge growth trend in the PNW. We often have more Cat 2 and 3 girls at a race than all women combined at some other Pro GRT events. Best way to grow the competition and support is to get more youth out racing. With the addition of the women's jr division we will likely have a few local girls start racing some of the WC events like Mont-Sainte-Anne over the next couple years. Even had a local 12 year old girl step up to race Cat 1 this season.
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 And Kaos also in good position in the juniors. Papa Seagrave has done something smart in the offseason.
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 @handynzl: more girls need to train as hard as the top handful. As more girls get into racing, it will be harder for those girls who are mid to bottom pack to keep racing world cups without trying to get on the top level. They will either train harder and be given more support as the competition increases, or retire from WCs and more motivated racers will take the spots. It appears that is just what is happening - the other girls want to run Rachel down, so they did more/something different this past off season.

I think there's two big things here - one is the women's market in mtb has just really begun to explode, so that will take a bit of time to work its way through and eventually push more girls into racing. The second thing is that it's really a women's dh thing - XC is hyper competitive and stacked as far as female events, and most of the Enduro races are as well. I'm a laissez faire type of guy though - we don't need to create a big incentive to push women's dh racing; just make sure racing is accessible and encourage those who want to do it, to do it. If not a ton of girls want to race DH, that's fine, so long as they are having a good time on a bike.

@Deuce-DeuceAndAHalf well said
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 @kamsbry: That's awesome to hear! When I started riding in the 90's if I saw another girl out riding it was a huge deal. Now on a lot of the local trails I see almost 50/50 girls and guys. There's so many rad organizations promoting girls on bikes so I'm really excited to see where they take the sport in the next 10 years!
  • 2 1
 I enjoy watching the top 10 ladies compete. I'm very optimistic that this year Rachel will have some serious competition. Would be great to see more than 10 women really competing too. I think anyone over 30 seconds back consistently should be dropped from their team...
  • 3 2
 @scary1: I have a simpler argument. Look in the street of your neighborhood. Find the kid building a wooden, stretchy jump off a bank and hucking themselves the instant mom has her back turned. Are they female?
  • 2 0
 @bizutch: yeah....no.
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 @bizutch: not always the case, you just described my childhood every day after school with 2 other girls. I'm not saying there are just as many girls doing stupid stuff on bikes but to say there are none is also wrong. The part that has always pissed me off (and probably drove me to be a better rider) was constantly getting told that that's not what girls are supposed to do as we were getting dirty and breaking bones. I really hope that's changed but try to keep an open mind about it.
  • 1 0
 @freeridegirrrl: haha, if you could see Butches girls,they sound just like you were. Im sure his point has no disrespect in it
  • 1 0
 @freeridegirrrl: I get it. I just got my phone back from my 11 year old looking up phrases about softball is for girls because baseball is too easy. Shes lead off for a travel team anf playing "up" an age group. My oldest is the fastest sprinter in her middle school, not a boy faster. She broke a boys pinkie last week thinking he'd dunk on her on a mini-goal.

Girls flipping rule. But by in large, if there is a nutball hucking a bike, its a boy was all I was pointing out.

I've built ramps for my girls and they aren't into it. Would LOVE it if they were. Then I wouldn't be sitting in a basketball gym or sweating my arse off at a ball field during prime ride time.????????????
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 Scribd sucks!
  • 13 2
 Preach
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 Why? Works every time for me. Must be all that haggis clogging up the internet cables, mate Razz
  • 10 103
flag torero (Apr 29, 2017 at 4:10) (Below Threshold)
 Your mother suck
  • 11 102
flag torero (Apr 29, 2017 at 4:12) (Below Threshold)
 Use PC or Mac, not the fuck smartphone
  • 11 4
 Yea works fine on my phone and PC doesn't seem to suck at all
  • 20 2
 @torero: you come from a fish country.
  • 42 1
 @handynzl: 60 percent of the time, it works every time.
  • 3 39
flag handynzl FL (Apr 29, 2017 at 5:23) (Below Threshold)
 @nickkk: Oh, you poor man. I'm sorry you are afflicted in that way, but not to sound crass, we were talking about Scribed, not, well, um, your "percentages"...
  • 64 1
 @handynzl: ease up internet tough guy... "60 percent of the time, it works every time" is a quote from the film Anchorman. I have no issue with Scribd. I'm even Scottish and upvoted your casual racist post because, well, um, I've got a sense of humour. Calm down and shut yer hole 'fore I fill it wi mare haggis ye wee plum.
  • 8 13
flag handynzl FL (Apr 29, 2017 at 5:30) (Below Threshold)
 @nickkk: lol. Me and my sheep have a sense of humor too Razz
  • 19 0
 how is the top comment not about the 29ers? someone fix this asap. lmao
  • 4 1
 Agreed, you shouldn't have to download an app to read the full 5 pages of results
  • 3 0
 the Android app for Scribd is flawless
  • 1 0
 @handynzl: glad to hear it. the ladles of sarcasm were a little off but i've been there before and misjudged a comment or two. No hard feelings to you sir. Enjoy the race if you're watching it man.
  • 70 2
 Vergier is not even remotely fucking around
  • 39 0
 My iPhone just tried to auto-correct "Vergier" to "Beefier".
  • 4 0
 @APF2: Eerily appropriate!
  • 59 3
 The slowest 29er is in 6th place - bring me some beers to accept this slap in the face...
  • 2 0
 chuckled pretty hard at this one. i think for some folks this is 100% true
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 There's only 3, ridden by riders who have all qualified in the top 6 before. Moral of the story: Until the 29ers are all a few full seconds faster as they were claimed to be I'm not claiming the results based on wheel size.
  • 6 1
 @NickB01: serious question here: when was the last time three riders from the same team were in the top 6?
  • 2 0
 @humoroususername: probably not in a while if ever, though I also don't think there's been a 3+ person team with as many strong riders. There have been plenty of very close 2 person teams though, Brosnan and Gwin, Vergier and Bruni, Hart and Greenland etc
  • 4 0
 @humoroususername:
World Champs all Mondraker Podium if i remember correct?
  • 1 0
 @Loki87: All Mondraker but I think Payet was on a different team?
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 @BenSticky:
Yes, but i think there was never a 1,2,3, team-podium or team top six, so that may be the closest thing to that.
The Syndicate is really the only team to have 3 high profile riders so i think the only chance of that would have been with Minnar, Peaty and Ratboy at some point, but i´m not sure
  • 46 9
 Pope Bruni needs to win this race and save downhill from 29ers
  • 37 3
 If Bruni is the pope then Vergier is the antichrist
  • 36 3
 Stoked to see Loris and Luca both on a new team and wheels lay down a quali like that! The new generation syndicate is alive!!
  • 20 2
 Very cool indeed!!! YT is warming up the CNC machine as we speak!!!
  • 20 0
 The 29er thing is cool and all, but this is the first year Minaar is racing kids half his age at the elite level! And still ended up 6th in qualies... 29" bike or not, hope Greg does well this season
  • 24 6
 Though it will only be proven with consistency over the season this is the massive slap in the face of all of the 29er haters and all of those who said that the larger wheel only works at bike parks etc.

26" was an accident - its what klunkers had, 27.5" is a marketing marvel by the bike industry, 29" however offers real benefits (and negatives to some) over the 26" wheel - Its an obvious development and as taken far too long to get to the race circuit.

We are still working things out in the MTB race world - I can see a mix of 27.5/29" next season, some wont ever ride a 29er, some will, but it will be personal choice as this wont be something the teams and manufacturers can avoid if the results keep coming.
  • 17 2
 Mens Junior for those that hate Scriber

1 – Matt Walker – 3:02.721
2 – Kaos Seagrave – 3:03.644
3 – Finn Iles – 3:04.394
4 – Kade Edwards – 3:08.670
5 – Sylavin Cougoureux 3:09.343
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 Thanks
  • 4 1
 scribs suck ..neil-g cool !!
  • 19 1
 29" anyone?
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 Meeh.
  • 2 0
 ridin' one for a second season already...
  • 18 1
 The three V10 29ers on the top 6.... they seem to be work...
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flag stevesmith-ss (Apr 29, 2017 at 6:45) (Below Threshold)
 if Peaty was swapped out last season, i would of expected three v10s up there regardless of wheel size
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 @steve-sxt: Eh?
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flag stevesmith-ss (Apr 29, 2017 at 6:56) (Below Threshold)
 @deadmeat25:

if the syndicate had brycland, minnar and another top tier rider last year, i would of expected three v10s with similar results regardless of wherl size last year, just because the new team are now riding 29 it shouldn't be automatically assumed thats the reason they are in the top 6.
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 @steve-sxt: nor should the opposite though...
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 @steve-sxt: syndicate had brycland and minnar because of Steve.
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 @fussylou: yes, but steve wasnt a top 10 rider last year, if they had another top 10 rider then a result like this wouldnt of been because of wheel size.
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flag deadmeat25 (Apr 29, 2017 at 7:16) (Below Threshold)
 @steve-sxt: The explanation is irrelevant now that you've corrected your initial post where it said " if Peaty last swapped out last season" etc, which as you know made your whole comment make no f*cking sense whatsoever, to then rewrite in even more detail an already self explanatory sentence just to cover up for the fact that you are unable to simply proof read a one line comment before posting is quite gay, you could've just said *Corrected, but then again i could've just let it go.....
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 @steve-sxt: Let´s be honest, it is strange that both Vergier and Shaw are in front of both Gwin and Hart...
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 @deadmeat25: So could you when it was obviously a mistype, but 85 words later and your still bitching
  • 3 7
flag stevesmith-ss (Apr 29, 2017 at 7:35) (Below Threshold)
 @deadmeat25: did you think i may of been re writing my f*cked up non proof read post while you were writing "eh" therefore not needing to state that i had edited my original post. See you next Tuesday ')
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flag deadmeat25 (Apr 29, 2017 at 7:59) (Below Threshold)
 @steve-sxt: First you counted how many words i wrote, then you make a whole new post bitchin about my bitchin, then you 'mistype' c*nt.
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 @deadmeat25: 108
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flag jimmythehat (Apr 29, 2017 at 8:16) (Below Threshold)
 @Davichin: Not with cheater wheels, no other sport would allow such an unlevel playing field
  • 13 1
 Lol its kinda a burn for syndicate riders. All the credit going to their big wheels instead of the fact they are actually kilker riders. Looking at last years results i would expect these results no matter what wheel they are on.
  • 4 1
 @nismo325: thank fu*k for that, someone looking past the wheel size
  • 1 1
 @steve-sxt: I agree it's just Luca that's a surprise
  • 15 1
 Minnaar usually stays the season slow. Based on most recent form Gwin and Hart seem to be fastest. We now have the likes of Vergier and Shaw beating them. 29er's in DH have truly arrived.
  • 17 3
 From all those who tried a 29" trailbike 5 years ago and though 'holy shit' have a collective, 'I told ya'.
  • 10 2
 ...And from all of us XC racers that jumped on 29ers 10 years ago, 'I told ya!'
  • 2 0
 If 29'' wheels make my slow ass faster, as they really do. It was fun to watch all of those comments that they wont bring nothing to DH, now have some bitches I told ya...
  • 16 2
 Yes Loris Vergier!! 29er are faaaast
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 29" rules
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 29's rules ..... 1 Vergier 3 Shaw 6 Minnaar
  • 13 1
 No tissot live timing this year?
  • 2 1
 Chronorace - I've been on their website, and no live timing option.
  • 9 0
 Live timing on UCI website

www.uci.ch/mountain-bike/ucievents/2017-mountain-bike-uci-mountain-bike-world-cup-presented-by-shimano/162153117/widgets/live-timing-results
  • 1 0
 Rachael rolls out at 13:30 local...10 mins from now. Junior Men and Women finished; results on the UCI site
  • 1 0
 Whaaaa??? no splits for the mens!!! nooooooo....

Ahhh...phew they popped up... 0.18 Gwin ahead of Danny in first split. Now I can get excited Smile
  • 1 0
 So many french flags on this page... Go boys!!!
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 And it is purely because of the track... such a bike-parkish smooth autobahn Razz

Seriously, I know that Syndicate riders are good, but I think that bike has something to do with this.
  • 10 0
 Why do people think it has to be the 29inch wheels that got these riders the spots? These dude where fast as hell last year lets not act like its just the wheels.
  • 3 0
 It won't be a coincidence when you see other riders show up on the start line with 29ers - in racing, every 1/100th second counts.
  • 12 0
 #29aintdead
  • 9 0
 I'm not jumping on the 29er bandwagon just yet...I will wait another 2 years when the industry comes out with a 30, then you all can suck it.
  • 2 3
 The new wheel size to hit main stream will be 36 inch wagon wheels Wink
  • 5 0
 Anybody else having issues with the live timing result page. Both Safari and Chrome won't scroll through the page. (And it is crap anyway, as soon as they finish their run the time disappears and is on another page... ffs...)
  • 3 0
 Yeah, it won't scroll. Once finished they go to the RESULTS and LAST FINISHERS tabs.
  • 4 0
 @handynzl: yep. But their I can't scroll either. So I can only see the top 10....
  • 3 0
 @kusanagi72: I think we have a track stoppage now. Brook was #19, and he's finished...the ON TRACK tab has gone, and #20 is listed first in the NEXT TO START.

Either that, or we killed it... (the widget that is)
  • 1 0
 @handynzl: they had one job...

Tissot had at least everything on one page, watching qualifying on Tissot's page was way more exciting and simpler than it is now.
  • 3 0
 @kusanagi72: Yep...

Well, it is what it is. At least it is something!
  • 8 2
 Pink Bike is taking a beating from Vert Mag and Dirt. Dirt was showing live from the race now and every news and images are one day ahead of Pink Bike. Why?
  • 7 2
 So rad... 29er's 1st, 3rd, and 6th. Suck it bitches. If the syndicate keep killing it, I see a lot of 29er's in the future. Big teams that have been experimenting will roll out the prototypes PDQ.
  • 7 0
 It's like Groundhog Day on Pinkbike.
Every days a 29er debate day. (Unless it's an ebike debate day)
  • 3 0
 What about a 29'er e-bike?
  • 2 0
 Next it will be rear axle spacing..........175mm the new 29er DH Standard Wink
  • 9 2
 HART BEATS AARON !!!...
  • 8 2
 Gwart Brosnaar Minnan Hartwin
  • 5 0
 Top 5 only separated by a second? Can't remember the last time we've seen that. Going to be a hell of a race tomorrow.
  • 6 0
 Looks like that 29 thing is indeed effective...!
  • 5 0
 Without taking any credit away from the riders skill, I think we can all agree that 29ers arent a disadvantage at least.
  • 2 0
 Clearly 29ers have future in Downhill, but for that to mean they will be the only wheel size is quite a stretch. I was sad to see 26 go, but understand 27.5 replaced it as the fun flickable wheel size. 29 may become the "fast" size but will never be more flickable and quick handling. I am fine with that because in most people's case we slowing down our bikes, not the other way around.
  • 5 0
 Loris Vergier on his wagon wheeler!
  • 6 0
 9errrrrrrrrrrr
  • 5 1
 Wow ! I hope to see Vergier and Bruni at the same rank for tomorrow, they deserve it so much !
  • 2 0
 Mike Jones and Marc Beaumont were both DNS, anyone know what happened to them?

Dimitri T, if you read this let us Utah folks know what happened, did you crash, or have a mech?
  • 1 0
 26 will live on for slopestyle and dirt jumping. Even though anyone hitting smooth dirtjumps should actually be riding BMX. I hope that eventually, XS and S bikes are always 27.5. XL and XXL bikes should always be 29er's. M and L bikes should have their wheel size decided by what attributes the company making the bike is looking to achieve.

It's funny to see the comments of people who think 27.5 will die before 26. It's usually pretty clear that these people have not spent much time on 27.5 or 29. Both are better in every way for most of us. Just admit it. "Hey, I want a bike that makes it easier to go OTB, and get's hung up on more stuff in the trail".
  • 1 0
 Sad to see everyone claiming that it's just the wheels that got the Santa Cruz team there. Maybe Minaar has a new lease on life now that he has 2 young guns full of energy and hungry for results instead of Peaty who was about to retire and a not too keen Ratboy. Sometimes a change in the team dynamics is a good thing. Bring on race day.
  • 6 2
 3 of top 6 29er for life!!!! HA!
  • 9 6
 What sucks about scribd? You click a link and scroll. It's not exactly hard, what do people want glitter and unicorns!!!
  • 5 3
 I just spent 5 minutes trying to figure it out on my phone and failed.
  • 8 0
 The mobile version, or rather the lack of it makes it really cumbersome and hard to read. And I assume most people access it via mobile...
  • 5 3
 Totally agree I my works perfectly on my phone and on my PC I don't really see what the problem is
  • 1 1
 @SleepingAwake: Zero problems here with a 50€ phone,with slow 3G coverage. Yeah I have to zoom in to read it,but that's ok.
  • 1 0
 @SleepingAwake: Thers an app and it asks if I want to download it at the bottom of the page. technology isn't that hard
  • 4 1
 why does it take so long for pinkbike to upload the results? dirtmag and vital have no such issue
  • 6 2
 I heard crying helps
  • 1 0
 @jptothetree: i´ll try then
  • 6 1
 two 29ers on the podium
  • 5 0
 Way to go Luca!
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flag dthomp325 (Apr 29, 2017 at 7:23) (Below Threshold)
 All aboard on the Luca hype train! Fuck you Brits, America is going to get 2 on the podium.
  • 2 2
 i call it fluke for now. come on people. look at top 10 quli times. it means nothing. both santa cruz riders were top ten already. for what we know them riding 29ers could be just mental boost for them to ride harder , but compared to danny hart it means f#$k all for now. If 29ers are trully an advantage , I would expect bigger time gap ! be it 3 sec+ and then we are talking
  • 1 0
 29" with 2.4 max tire in the front,27.5" 2.8 tyre in the rear on 27.5" fork/frame that you all ready have and you got the feel of 29" on DH without braking the bank account again
  • 2 0
 This is going to be an insane race! Everyone is so close together. Top 7 guys are less than 2 seconds apart Eek I hope the wagon wheels win!!!
  • 3 0
 Checked results to see how Ratboy had done Frown
  • 4 1
 All I see is Junior women?
  • 3 0
 That's all that have ridden thus far, one would presume. Come back a bit later and more divisions will be there. Smile
  • 3 0
 Results as we get them, we'll be uploading the results once each category is done.
  • 1 0
 @laurenjenkins: Thanks Smile
  • 8 0
 Watch who you say that too, you could end up in jail!
  • 2 1
 Kaos! Just about the coolest name ever! Parents must have been Get Smart fans. His sister should be named Control, not Tahnee ...
  • 3 1
 Race day is a whole new kettle of fish. I don't expect Vergier or Shaw to be top 5. Money's on Danny.
  • 1 1
 Men: 1. Loic Bruni
2. Danny Hart
3. Loris Vergier

Women: 1. Rachel Atherton
2. Tahnee Seagrave
3. Manon Carpenter
  • 2 0
 grandissimo Masiero, Monzoni e company!! aprire il gasssssss
  • 1 0
 Awesome now they put the year of birth (or I've just noticed it) now I feel old f$%k you
  • 4 1
 29'ers came to win!!!
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 ahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahaah Big Grin
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 2017 is gonna be the year of the 29er. first place in xc and dh.
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 @atrokz: Cmon Angelo who the heck are Louis and Dean? Loris and Luca? Dean Cain and Lois lane?
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 Why is everyone bitching about scribd? Seems to be working well on mobile devices at last or my iPhone at least.
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 How about we let the first race actually finish before we start spaffing over wheel sizes being a factor of anything.
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 Maybe it's all just a bad dream
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 Loris,and Greg I think could have been up there without the wheels last year but Luca is a surprise we'll see tomorrow.
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 PB premature ej again! It's qualifying , not saying it's not important but times are close, it's going to depend if there's some sandbagging and how much more theyre is left in the pocket, I wouldnt poo ya pants just yet, racing and qualifying are the same but like not like each other! Lets get ready to rumble!
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 It's still too early,but no words/reply from the big S? Santacruz is winning the day clearly
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 Holyshit it is the end of days. They are racing 29erz on the uci DH world cup and I just upvoted a waki rant
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 #27.5isdead....sell it and buy a 29er....wait 29ers was the thing like 3-4 yeas ago?
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 How does New Zealand, a place SO epic to ride bikes, only have one female racer ????
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 Scribd works perfectly fine on both PC and mobile (Android Firefox) for me
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 sorry, no it isnt. brain fart
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 Wondered what that stinky was Razz
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 Hart, Gwin, Minaar...early days yet, but that's the 1 2 3
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 Bruni goes into first!
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 Oh oh...now Loris on the 29er in first...cue hysteria!
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 Early in the timing, but 29ers 1, 3 and 6... I see the Earth is starting to implode...
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 To have your whole team inside the top ten is more than just the riders. You can't get three riders all equally as fast as each other, surely? Whats the common denominator?? Hmmm...one wonders.

The more I have looked at that Trek of Rachels, the more it looks like the chainstays are the correct length for 29er wheels...is Trek playing the wait....wait.....wait.....ok, game?
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 Yeah nah, them 29ers are no good for downhill...
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 @qldmtb: Yeah nah, they can take that quali results sheet straight to the pool room...
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 Loris won it
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 Vergier, Bruno, Shaw, hart, gwin Posted on vital
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 Finally a season that will not be boring....
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 Those wagon wheel things must actually work!
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 British dominate training. French take the quali. What about the finale?
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 Did Mick Hannah rode the last section slowly to avoid the rain tomorrow???
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 Curious to see if there will be a 29er on the podium.
  • 3 1
 #29aintdead #29isalive
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 All 3 29er Santa Cruz top 6
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 Time for everybody to change their fantasy lineup
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 So everyone moves to 29er by next season, what has this achieved?! nothing
  • 1 0
 The first 30.5 XC bikes will be on World Cup courses by July.
  • 1 1
 Ffs people 26 is not coming back!! Get it thru yours heads its DEAD!!
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 Danny Hart!!!!!!!!!
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 Scribd can eat a dick.. For those on mobile I had success by forcing my browser to request desktop site.
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 Damn
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 Bring back skinsuits!!
  • 2 4
 Gwin Hart Brosnan Minaar
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 AG
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 Rennie for the win
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 @torero: Hill
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