You're all forgetting about Danny! He was on pace in the first split but then he lost his chain, got a double puncture AND his brakes failed but he still managed an 8th place!!! COME ON DANNY! YOU CAN DO THIS!
@squarewheel: It is Santa Cruz's new Impact Absorbing Carbon Layup that sacrifices the frame so the rider can still go on and qualify 2nd for World Cup races. Like MIPS but for frames.
@scott-townes: DHart maybe have not the best star figure as some brands would like but he is a humble fighter and they have to count with him ..I like Gwin actitude but also Danny rises when the atten tions are at elsewhere.
@squarewheel: Well well,well what hammer broke the frame ?Must be Thor because in lab a regular hammer dont do anything to the frame as we see in promo videos.The God Thor dont like Spec ?
@mikelee: we can assume that it was the down tube that snapped first. The TT is much weaker, so if something finally destroyed the down tube, the top tube had no chance. One thing is sure, teams will start investing in laser and ultrasound scanners and check frames after and before every race. That failure was probably developing since some time. I know from my own first hand experience with santa cruz carbon frames that they don't snap just like that. I cased 7-8m road gap in Hafjell repeatedly on 2.2kg (!) Blur Trc, eventually landing flat. It didn't kill the frame which is only a notch stronger than a XC racing frame
@WAKIdesigns: completely agree, that was a fracture from before this event. also proves how good carbon is at hiding iminant failure. looks like he was literally riding a normal part of the track too. imagine if it happened on a huge landing or really pinning it. got lucky for sure.
@squarewheel: After they cover up the two pieces of frame with a jacket it becomes a 29" DH bike with the world's shortest wheelbase! Is this how we'll reverse the "longer-slacker" trend? Minnaar is riding big wheels with the new Santa Cruz V2 frame: "tracks like this really favour a shorter-steeper setup, so I'm riding 32" wheels and a new frame sporting a 500mm wheelbase."
On second viewing, front wheel lost traction and slipped right on that little rock at the bottom of the hill / g out section. Front grabbed super fast again and ejected him stage left. Nothing he could do.
@metaam: just like with moon landing or with Kennedy's assasination(s), we will never know even if Greg said his wheel just tucked out of his mistake and there was no way it was the breaking frame that caused the crash - People would speculate simply because the obvious answer is not the attractive one. I mean look at that mess with Sagan and Cavendish... there are people who still believe he elbowed him. Are we watching the same vid? Are you seeing the same thing I see?! Obviously not... one of us is dumber. Off course the fricking pole broke that frame. The layup is tailored to take foreaft forces and is shatter proofed from underside, not designed for side hits. And his frame is wrapping on that pole sideways. A dude landed with his ff helmet on my friends remedy 9.9 lying by the side of the trail. Top tube snapped. And someone thinks this won't happen while his bike is flying at high speed?
@bikekrieg: This is just qualifiers so doesn't really count, but weren't there only 18 women competitors? So she is at the middle of all the competitors at 9th, but the real kicker is she was +25sec off of 1st, sorry but that's not that impressive, if there were 100 competitors then I would say WOW. Now Sam Hill moving from DH to Enduro and 1st race taking 10th out of 112 that's impressing. However, these are just qualifiers, lets see how she does in the race!
Only if they finish 1-2. If they are outside the top 2, things will get interesting in the overall. 200 pts for first, 160 pts for second, 125 for third, 110 for fourth... 23 points separate them presently...
I am hoping Troy puts down a sick run and puts pressure on the top 2!
Only if their positions are 1-2. If Gwin gets 2nd and Minnaar 3rd (or any lower such scenario), Minnaar still wins. But pretty cool that if Gwin wins, he's unbeatable. Easy peasy, right? /s
@stylishskier: so you guys are wrong if everything you said is true.. There is a 23 point difference between 2nd and 3rd place, and between 3rd and 4th. So Gwinn would still win the overall
Bike speed is about adaptation and absolute feeling and trust with your bike... Just look at the difference of adaptation between Miller and Ravannel las EWS un a Raw video I think, but now opposite papers...
"9th" sounds a lot better than "25 seconds off the leader's pace", which is the reality she has to grapple with. First World Cup and a Top 10 would be a super achievement (remember Gwin?) but to think that she would do any better at her first World Cup, on this track of all tracks, is just not very likely.
@ka-brap: I'm not that impressed, there were only 18 women competitors in total. Top 10 achievement means a lot more when there are 100+ competitors like there are in the men's roster.
So close. Glad to see Minnar keeping Gwin Honest. I think Gwin is the faster man all out, but Minnar almost as fast and more consistent. I'd like to see Minnar take it, as Gwin has many more years left to dominate
from Vital: "minnaar crashed sending the bike flipping and wrapping it around a tree/post causing it to break. it didn't break while he was riding. he qualified in 2nd place (only .177 seconds back) just an hour later on a freshly-built bike. he's clearly not worried about the strength of the bike. i guess there will be footage of the incident soon."
Pretty much guaranteed? I am from here and i can assure you that it is probably not raining at all during the race. We will see. Hoping for a fair race
MInnaar must be pissed off. If he would take the qualifying win today he can be a 2nd in a race day and grab the overall by 3 points. Cheering for Greg!
I think Troy has had a great season with the new team. The beginning of the season he looked a little hesitant but has really turned it around now. Can't wait to see what he can do next year.
@dhpig: Absolutely! I was blown away by Wallace last year when I went to Mont-Sainte-Anne WC. His line in the rock garden was unreal! He deserves top support from the fans!
But I doubt he will ever reach Smith's level. I'd love him to prove me wrong though. Smith seriously steped up his game around 23-24yo. The year he won many WC, and the overall if I remember well. Maybe Wallace can do the same!
Best last race in DH history... women's and mens. All 3 with a chance to win are all in the top 4. With the men the only 3 guys with a chance to win all had green splits.
Women's race is going to be a nail biter. Myriam Nicole was 15 seconds back with a full off-the-bike crash so it's certainly not in the bag for Tracy. I hope the commentators have their spread sheets set up to give us results as they come in otherwise there will be a lot of guessing and confusion.
Minaar doesn't have to beat Gwin to get the overall. He can finish one position behind Gwin and still have enough points cushion to win the overall as long as Gwin doesn't win.
If Gwin get's 2nd... Greg only needs 3rd.
Gwin Gets 3rd... Greg only needs 4th.. etc...
If Gwin wins... Greg is screwed.
If I were Greg - i would share all my secrets with Brosnan, Moir, Hart etc.. . A win for anyone but Gwin would make the overall title easier for Minaar.
For some reason I think that Gwin will have a better chance at world champs if he loses the overall this year. And seeing Minnarr win the overall would be epic.
@fraktiv: Thanks for adding them. I admit that I liked the old way with Scribd inline in the page. Always worked great for me! Only an extra couple of clicks now but such is the plight of our people.
Didn't watch it, but she must have let off the gas a bit. She has a decent lead in the overall and I think she can afford a top 5 finish. (correct me if I'm wrong)
@ryanlaf12: Correcting you without verifying, but she lost 10 sec in the first split. Pretty sure that means she washed out on the first turns. So she should be on pace come race time.
Doubt she let off the gas as her lead was not huge.
I just read official sc comment... compare that to specialized comment when bikes snap ( always mechanic or somebody fault) or when tdf 2014 contador frame snapped and the hid it .... so respect to sc...
Also... CECILE GETTING 9th!? First ever world cup dh. Jesus.
Check this: www.mtb-mag.com/en/video-raw-val-di-sole-dh-wc-bottom-outs-lines-broken-frames
His frame is broken...
I do hope he takes the win if Greg doesn't!
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tions are at elsewhere.
Also, its great to see more than just one American flag in the top spots!
m.youtube.com/watch?v=GYFn7yMEF6A
Is this how we'll reverse the "longer-slacker" trend? Minnaar is riding big wheels with the new Santa Cruz V2 frame: "tracks like this really favour a shorter-steeper setup, so I'm riding 32" wheels and a new frame sporting a 500mm wheelbase."
Now everyone will want one!
There is a 23 point difference between 2nd and 3rd place, and between 3rd and 4th. So Gwinn would still win the overall
"minnaar crashed sending the bike flipping and wrapping it around a tree/post causing it to break. it didn't break while he was riding. he qualified in 2nd place (only .177 seconds back) just an hour later on a freshly-built bike. he's clearly not worried about the strength of the bike. i guess there will be footage of the incident soon."
7 French
5 British
3 Americans
2 Aussies
1 South African
1 Kiwi
1 Canadian
The French are killing it (in mens)!
But I doubt he will ever reach Smith's level. I'd love him to prove me wrong though. Smith seriously steped up his game around 23-24yo. The year he won many WC, and the overall if I remember well. Maybe Wallace can do the same!
www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212049017933225&set=a.1036419643223.7489.1607449158&type=3&theater
Is there going to be a 'Predict Top 3' competition for this race??
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any one see the pics of the V10 in two halves??? Glad it wasn't Greg's quali run RACE IS ON!!!
BEST SEASON EVER!!!
Minnaar 972p
Gwin 949p (-23)
Brosnan 880p (-92)
Points from the race:
1. 200p
2. 160p
3. 140p
4. 125p
5. 110p
www.uci.ch/mountain-bike/ucievents/2017-mountain-bike-uci-mountain-bike-world-cup-presented-by-shimano/162153117/widgets/live-timing-results
pretty exciting watching the numbers alone
Doubt she let off the gas as her lead was not huge.
There is a picture where the frame is broken in half, specialized style.
www.pinkbike.com/photo/15092326
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this ones better, looks like bike was ok untill it hit the tree
Anyone got any pics of XC training?
There, I fixed it so you don't sound like a douchebag