Just a few months after revamping the Atlas
pedal, Race Face have updated another mainstay in their flat pedal lineup - the Aeffect. The new 'R' version receives a platform that's 25% larger than the regular Aeffect, measuring a healthy 110 x 115mm.
There's minimal difference between the height of the inboard and outboard portions of the 15.5mm tall platfom - this really is a flat pedal. The height of the 10 pins can be adjusted, though, which should make it possible to create a more concave feeling underfoot.
Aeffect R Pedal Details
• 110 x 115mm platform, 15.5mm thick
• Chromoly axle
• 10 top-loading pins per side
• Colors: black, red, orange, green, blue, purple
• Weight: 440 grams
• MSRP: $130 USD
The platform rotates around a chromoly spindle thanks to a bearing and a bushing, and the internals are easily accessible for applying fresh grease or replacing bearings when the time comes.
The Aeffect pedals are priced at $130 USD, and are available in six anodized colors: black, red, orange, green, blue, and purple.
People just want to buy the thinner pedals they can like those 5mm would make a real difference. The same with weight, 50g difference per pair and people think this matter...
I get it Race Face, you have a new updates to you pedals. How about making good on some marginal designs that were released?
I’ve never seen a one have their feet close enough (and not have their ankle hit the crank) for it to be an issue.
Strange that you’ll critique what others find important (thinner pedal) but believe that your opinions are valid.
So a 5mm thicker pedal saves 2.5mm ground clearance and puts you 2.5mm closer to the axle.
I think that MTBers and performance bikers in general are really f*ing princesses, which is a real joy for the bike industry and bike media. But this also leads to crappy products because a 17mm thick pedal will not sell, so, let's make a 13mm thick convex pedal with a bearing whch will rust in 3 months, win/win, sell more expensive stuff that breaks more easily.
Do princesses deal well with shit that breaks immediately? I don't think so. Your analogy breaks down.
I love a thin pedal, but if it dies early _because it's thin_, it's not good and I don't buy it again. Which I actually haven't had to deal with because Bennies and Atlas have been good for me: been smashing them to pieces (imagine how much sooner if they were thicker) well before they stop spinning well (including a normal and fine bearing change after a year or 2 of heavy riding)
The RF pedal at 15.5mm just isn't that thin at all too - the DMR Vault is 17mm - so you have a whopping 0.75mm difference there but the Vault has a nice concave shape as a benefit.
There is literally a few mm difference between most pedals and you are kidding yourself if you think 1-2.5mm is going to give you any actual benefit in the real world what so ever.
Other the other hand, Stamps, for example, are a tiny bit thicker as use a bush instead of inboard bearing, but not comfortable for me. They might be durable, but I'm not sure since couldn't ride them long enough, though I do know one person who broke the outside edge clean off and another who has had issues with the long -top-loading pins bending enough to mess up the threads at the top of the hole. So YMMV.
I'm not out here shouting that Stamps suck, but you seem to be unable to stop insisting that all super thin pedals suck for all people.
But 2mm _is_ going to give a benefit. Think about every rock strike that might smoke a pin clean off: 2mm more clearance and that becomes a glancing blow. Same 2mm and every glancing blow becomes nothing. Same 2mm and some of those big smacks that actual disrupt pedaling get scaled down to a pin smoker or glancing blow to the pedal body. I'm not saying you're going to magically clean every rocky tech climb in your area by saving a couple mm off you pedal thickness, but at the end of the day you're going to be able to pedal more smoothly in more places, and save on pin replacements. If you can find a thin pedal that fits you well and lasts, keeping in mind that there will also be thick pedals that _don't_ fit you well _and_ wear out quickly, there is zero reason not to use the thinnest ones.
It’s almost as if there is choice in the market, because people prefer different things. Just because it’s right for you, does t mean it’s right for everyone, chase we are all different, and like different things, and that’s cool.
No need for anyone to be right, cause there is no right. Just different.
Ease up on one another, cause you’re not gonna change each other’s mind
It’s the assertion that you’re right, and everyone else is wrong.
That’s not a discussion, that’s being argumentative.
Every product is for someone ya muffin stump,
The comment section doesn’t necessarily exist for people to one sidedly decide that all other opinions are wrong, while they’re right.
You didn’t answer my earlier question about inboard bearings and hitting your ankle
It would be almost impossible to have a concave pedal with a 13.5mm edge thickness as an axle is 12mm thick usually, unless you are standing on the bare axle of course?
I’m sorry but your analogy is just silly and there is a great reason not to use the thinnest pedals available, because they are convex/ not concave and as a result are often a bit shit.
Some other axle being "12mm thick usually" means nothing. The triple row of outboard bearings in an Atlas is 6x10, so the axle in that case is only 6mm" thick" and the outside of the bearings is only 10mm. So much for your "usually".
Also, not everyone likes/wants concave pedals. Some like perfectly flat, and even other prefer slightly convex. Again, IF they are comfortable _for you_, there is no other trade-off. Thinner pedals have no downsides besides things that apply to all pedals: fit is personal, and shit bearings are shit bearings no matter the pedal thickness: plenty of thick pedals die fast deaths in adverse conditions.
I still don't think 2.5mm will make a blind bit of difference though, but if it does to you then that's what matters.
The thinner the pedal, the more ground clearance, and the more ground clearance, the less shit you hit, even 1mm. Every little bit helps. It's not going to mean you magically clear everything janky with no strikes, but it will mean less strikes, which means your pedals and pins last longer and you can make smoother strokes, which is always nice.
I agree they are less complicated to design / package though.
No, there’s absolutely no rationalizing it. Yes, I could absolutely keep them until they fail or aren’t supported.
My (previous-style) Atlas pedals have gone through at least 3 pin replacements and 1 (maybe 2?) bearing replacements, in just 2.5 years, and I'm thinking before the end of this year they're need a full replacement because things are getting so beat up it's becoming a pain to change pins and bearings.
I had Stamps before that (that big open space in the outboard region doesn't agree with my feet) and went through a pin replacement after maybe 4 months. A very wide platform like the Stamp makes rock strikes even more likely/necessary.
They still spin freely but lately they've been getting awfully sharp and shin-slashy so I may get some sandpaper out to smooth them down
Not often the "only way" down/through but very often a fun way.
that's way less exciting.
Not changing from these concave vaults
At least they're not shouting about a concave platform or pin length while ignoring a 3-4mm tall bump.
Interesting, I’ve been nothing but happy with the bearing performance on my OneUp’s. Probably the best bearing life I’ve experienced in a pedal; going on 2 years (Vancouver = mostly wet). I found the RF Atlas I had previous to be the worst for bearing life. Seemed like after a only a few months the bearings would be toasted.