Randoms - Bike Festival Riva, 2017

Apr 30, 2017
by Paul Aston  
Europe's answer to Sea Otter Festival kicked off in style with.... err a biblical rainstorm, narrowly missing the Spring snow that has just swept the Alps. There are over 300 brands and 30000 visitors over the three-day public show. There's also plenty of racing in the surrounding 2000 meters plus of rocky elevation surging from the shores of one of Italy's largest and most stunning lakes.

A bike from the glory days when wheels were one size the rider was unsuspended and the only standard you had to keep up with was the shade of anodizing.
A bike from the glory days, when wheels were one size, the rider was unsuspended and the only standard you had to keep up with was the shade of anodizing.

 I had an 800mm bar back in 92 it just had an extra couple of bends in it.
"I had an 810mm bar back in '92, it just had an extra couple of bends in it."
The SuperAmerican is due for a re-launch in MY2019 the name has been updated to The Trump...
The SuperAmerican is due for a re-launch in MY2019, the name has been updated to 'The Trump'...

Continental s SWAT Sprinter is the dream bus--the ultra rare 4x4 version.
Continental's SWAT Sprinter is my dream bus, being the ultra rare 4x4 version.

Cosmic Sports distributes most of America s favorite shiny things to central Europe.
Cosmic Sports distributes most of America's favorite shiny things to central Europe.

Shiny shiny shiny...
Shiny shiny shiny...
More shiny things...
More shiny things...

Hmmmm shiny...
Hmmmm, shiny...

There s still some market for v-brakes and the mounting standard has stayed the same for over 20 years.
There's still some market in the cycling world for v-brakes, and the mounting standard has stayed the same for over 20 years.
Paul Components brake lever. The perfect accompaniment to a Profile BlackJack chaining I feel a retro BMX build coming on...
Paul Components brake lever. The perfect accompaniment to a Profile BlackJack chaining, I feel a retro BMX build coming on...

These hubs have my name written all over them..
These hubs have my name written all over them, literally.

If you thought mountain biking was expensive how about some 155 plywood flats for your fixie.
If you thought mountain biking was expensive, how about 155 euros for some plywood flats for your fixie.

It s a bit more technical than a piece of plywood. The bearing-less pedal is a multi-piece construction and the amount of free spin can be adjusted.
OK, so it's a bit more technical than a piece of plywood. The bearing-less pedal is a multi-piece construction and the amount of free spin can be adjusted.
The plastic version is cheaper at 55
The plastic version is cheaper at 55 euros.

DMR s new 160mm travel Sled.
DMR's new 27.5", 160mm travel Sled.

 EMTB s are for lazy people Or people that what to get hench lifting their bike on and off wall mounts.
"EMTB's are for lazy people," Or people that what to get hench Olympic lifting their electric bike onto wall mounts.

Cane Creek s Helm fork. This was 30 300 in the limited blue color ready to go to war packed in this gun case.
Cane Creek's Helm fork. This was number 30/300 in the limited edition blue color. It's ready to go to war packed in this gun case.

Rudy Project talking custom colorways to the next level with their build your own sunglasses bench.
Rudy Project taking custom colorways to the next level with their 'build your own' eyewear bench.

Bike Park Samerberg s Defender and caravan combo.
Bike Park Samerberg's Defender and caravan combo.

Trickstuff s Direttissima has been updated with a tool-free reach adjust.
Trickstuff's Direttissima has been updated with a tool-free reach adjust.

They also have a mineral oil equivalent made from a vegetable oil base. Mineral oil isn t harmful to you skin or paintwork like DOT fluid can be but don t let you think it s a greener alternative.
Bionol is a mineral oil equivalent, made from a vegetable oil base. Normal mineral oil isn't harmful to you skin or paintwork, like DOT fluid can be, but it's not a greener alternative.
Trickstuff s first and still their bread and butter product are brake pads. The Power compound middle are said to be their most powerful and longest lasting pad to date.
Trickstuff's first, and still their 'bread and butter' product are brake pads. Their latest 'Power' compound (middle) is said to be their most powerful and longest lasting pad to date.

Mr Wolf s Banger.
Mr Wolf's Banger might look like a foam tube, but it's more complex than that. Currently, it's only a Kickstarter project, but one that has raised over 30k euros in a couple of days.

They had samples of many other products for a feel comparison. It s easy to see why the Banger might be a winner.
They had samples of many other products for a feel comparison. It's easy to see why the Banger might be a winner.

Hope have joined the oval ring club.
Hope have joined the oval ring club.

Bergamont s Tyro 24 full suspension bike
Bergamont's Tyro 24" full suspension bike. 1999 euros for this 160mm mini shredder machine.

Mondraker s Crusher EMTB
A 40mm wide wheelset from Mavic was spotted on Mondraker's new EMTB. The widest rim ever from the French brand?

Mondraker s Crusher EMTB
Mondraker s Crusher EMTB

When fashions collide--an electric assisted mountain bike rider at a German bike festival in Italy.
When fashion worlds collide: an electric assisted mountain bike rider, at a German bike festival, in Italy.

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  • 84 5
 When the weight of e-bike is not enough so you have to put the same amount of crap on your body. Oh boy. Happy safe e-biking.
  • 73 4
 That guy is a great argument against e-bikes.
  • 9 1
 Is that a license plate?
  • 27 1
 @fattyreryder: motorcycles do need to be licensed
  • 2 9
flag loopie (May 1, 2017 at 0:13) (Below Threshold)
 @EKrum: Lots of places allow electric assist on pedal-able bicycles and tricycles up to various limits before requiring licensing etc...
  • 57 1
 that guy on the e-bike. i have no words.
  • 33 0
 That Sprinter is a beast!
  • 6 0
 a guy at my work has one. they aren't common because they are expensive lol
  • 3 3
 When I first looked I thought it said T.W.A.T on the side :-)
  • 25 0
 "Or people that what to get hench Olympic lifting their electric bike onto wall mounts."

That what what?
  • 4 1
 I also can't understand what the heck those things are.
  • 7 0
 @arphia: It's a nifty wall mount: cycloc.com/ps
The photo caption however is just a string of random words.
  • 1 0
 @arphia: It's a wall mount for your bike. You have to swing your top tube in.
  • 18 0
 Every time I see the graphics on the canecreek helm fork I left scratching my head, for what is a pretty premium product it looks tacky.
  • 9 4
 you are talking about it so they win.
  • 7 0
 @makripper: I guess to some extent that is true but, they would have a much bigger win if the graphics left me talking about how sweet the forks look,
  • 4 2
 @Kickmehard: there are only so many ways to paint a fork
  • 1 1
 I think they look kinda cool... they remind me of a energy drink logo or music festival logo. Different from what we are used to, but I like that it looks less "serious". My Lyrik's logo looks like it would be at home on a tactical firearm.
  • 2 2
 @makripper: Take some acid and you may rethink your statement.
  • 1 0
 @haroman666: please elaborate.
  • 3 0
 @makripper: Ummmm the realisation that nothing is finite when ones mind is hyper-fuelled by psychedelics.
Thus the ways of painting a fork become extravagantly open ended and exponentially abundant.
It was a joke. Clearly not understood though. Nvm.
  • 1 0
 @haroman666: lol gotcha! sorry I didn't get it the first time
  • 19 0
 A pedal without bearings. What a tremendous idea.
  • 33 0
 A wooden pedal, what a tree.. mendous I'd..
I'll get me coat
(bearingless pedals been around for years now)
  • 6 0
 furthermore there is no thing like a bearingless pedal... in this case a plain bearing.. supershitty idea, but still a bearing.
  • 1 0
 I've had the BPE (Best Pedal Ever) from Animal for a while. It seemed like a nice and simple idea. The body with glide bearings runs directly on the axle. Downside was that I had to screw it back in every ten minutes. And on a muddy ride I had to bring a rag and grease because obviously you can't just screw it in like that (and the bearings would need the grease because otherwise they'd seize even quicker). It gets annoying real quick.
  • 2 0
 I've been running three sets of straight-line pedals for years. Never had to touch them since I bought em Bushings over bearings any day
  • 1 0
 @nojzilla: I've had a set of Specialized Bennies going for over 18 months which only have an inboard bushing and an outboard cartridge bearing and they're running beautifully, with just some new grease packed in after a year or so, which I'm not sure they even needed. The other pair's been the same, although they've only had a year put into them so far.
  • 9 0
 That Banger stuff is interesting (as the other options we saw this year - huck norris and gwin's ftd). But considering the price and weight I think they are not likely to be widely adopted by regular bikers. Integrating this kind of protection to the inner surface of a tire (~1/2 inches thick) will probably offer 90% of the protection with maybe less than 50% of the weight and will also be much cheaper considering the big tire companies' production and marketing capabilities.
  • 1 0
 were you able to find more information on it? i've got Huck in my rear wheel. i'm very susceptible to pinch flats on tubless; i've not had the opportunity to test it properly though.
  • 2 0
 @ondrugs: what @Gfromars said. That is the best source for now. The guy talking on the video says price will be +150 Euros for early birds and +200 Euros after for a set (f/r wheels). That price is high and might be reasonable only if you have one bike and generally use same width tires and do not care about weight too much - also assuming they will last at least a couple years (or the lifetime of 3-4 tires at least).
  • 8 0
 @magiko9:
According to kickstarter, final shop price will be 249€, which imho is just ridiculous for a piece of foam, even though i have to admit the idea seems promising.
They also state durability to be "up to one year", which seems to be rather optimistic to me, considering other manufacturers of foam inserts claim durability to be "lifetime of a tire". So if you go through 4 sets of tires a year, that´s 1000€ in freakin foam tubes! o.O
Might be alright in Cross Country, but if you keep hammering that stuff on a enduro or even downhill bike, i don´t see it lasting much longer than one tire life before significant performance loss will occur.

I hope Maxxis, Conti or maybe even Specialized or Bontrager will get behind this idea and release a sensible priced option.
  • 5 3
 Everyone needs to check out CushCore. The inner tire suspension system. It blows hucknorris out of the water by saving rims but also allowing you to drop air pressure in tires without loosing stability in the tires. Cushcore.com
  • 5 1
 Serious question here - what if you just put some pipe insulation inside your tire? Cost would be about $3. Wouldn't that achieve much of the same effect?
  • 1 0
 @Loki87: Yeah that price is ridiculous even if it lasts the whole year. I think a simpler form can be integrated to the inner surface of the tire and I think Schwalbe/Maxxis/etc. can do this for $20-30 for tire which will be more than acceptable.
  • 2 0
 @trillot: It may achieve a similar effect on small hits but I think it will lack in density for bigger impacts. Also it will possibly absorb tire sealant which will make it useless. But yeah, yours is a good point and I think we will be seeing much cheaper options (maybe not $3 but $23) that are denser than pipe insulation foam and has some coating on the surface to prevent sealant absorption.
  • 2 1
 @treekilla: i had a look; i think it's expensive and heavy.
  • 2 6
flag BikeRipperVT (Apr 30, 2017 at 10:45) (Below Threshold)
 Yeah if only there was something you could put inside your tires to decelerate the tire from striking the rim, that didn't weigh too much and would allow you to use the tires as they were intended. There was this one thing we used to use when I was a kid... Man, what were they called again? Oh yeah, Tubes! It really cracks me up that everyone is racing to figure out a way to stop beating their wheels up and the only way they've figured is to put more weight back into the wheel then when there was a tube in there. Now I'll admit you're probably not going to run 20psi with a tube and not flat, but I've never needed to drop the pressures that low to get my tires to work. i run about 31-33psi Conti trail king 2.4 front and Mountain King 2.4 rear. And my DH bike usually runs 35-40 (depending on weather and trails) and I rarely flat. Granted what do I know, I'm still running 26" wheels... noob
  • 3 2
 @BikeRipperVT: Yep, all hail the mighty puncture-proof innertubes that you and you alone seem to possess. If you can't spot the difference between the two concepts then you shouldn't be commenting really.
  • 2 0
 @BikeRipperVT: 35-40 psi on your DH bike? That's Rampage pressure.
  • 3 0
 @trillot: really just find some closed cell foam tubing and you'd be pretty well off, dollar to dollar.

EDIT: here ya go

www.bestmaterials.com/detail.aspx?ID=15597&gclid=CjwKEAjwlpbIBRCx4eT8l9W26igSJAAuQ_HGO7eTDN1GQ1TJCTOz9WEbjEs_RajH7LUt1FKVTIZQMRoCzlvw_wcB

You can find almost any diameter.

edit #2: damn, it's designed to be used with sealants, too, so it has to have decent chemical resistance (i.e. won't degrade in your tire.) MTBers should be on top of this stuff. I feel like some of he more "dirt bag" recreationalists (climbers and rafters com to mind) beat us in DIY ethics. I mean we ride precise, $3-6k machines, so DIY is harder/requires special equipment for a lot of things, but I digress....
  • 2 1
 @trialsracer:

I really feel like giving it a try
  • 1 0
 @Loki87: The estimated weight of 180-350g *per tyre*, depending on wheel size and tyre diameter, will probably put a lot of riders off as well.
  • 7 0
 That Scott...those were simpler days back then. Helmet, water bottles and saddle bag. You went up and down and held on for dear life.
  • 8 0
 those plywood flats will give me so much anti-metal mainstream cred at the hipster coffee shop
  • 8 0
 Continental needs to come up with another acronym.
  • 4 0
 I make a point of not posting to comment threads but ... kick starting $200+ swimming pool noodles to stuff in tires for flat protection/traction/ride quality? I refuse to even deliberate the validity of the concept. What I do know is, if there is even an iota of reality to this emerging "technology", China is going to kick all of these start ups in the teeth with $10 alternatives. My word choice of "alternative" rather than "counterfeit" is deliberate , as stuffing pool noodles in bike tires is not a technological achievement. Space age elastic cellular membrane ... F off. NASA owns space.
  • 6 0
 What do dogs do on their day off? Can't lie around – that's their job - George Carlin.
  • 5 0
 At least those god awful wooden grips are not on here, just god awful wooden pedals...
  • 6 0
 since when are 4x4 sprinters rare? also i've love to get a blue helm.
  • 6 5
 At the risk of a hail storm of disagreement, based on my experience of Continental MTB tyre it should be: Terrible Works And Technology.......
  • 5 0
 @wythall1: Super Wobbly Ass Tires

They ALWAYS get that conti wobble at some point in their lifetime. Try to wear them down before that happens! haha
  • 4 0
 Is that DMR my old orange Intense Tracer 275 with differant stickers on?? It sure looks it.
  • 4 0
 Paul got the short end of the stick, or are you in lourds this morning?
  • 15 0
 Very short stick... There's way more beer here though, and people willing to consume it on Saturday night!
  • 1 0
 @paulaston: better than most then Wink
  • 3 0
 Where's Nikolai and Pole?
  • 1 0
 Are you sure the Bio...-stuff from Trickstuff is not more environmental friendly. I would be not amused by them choosing a irritating name like this.
  • 3 0
 @paulaston: Actually they say it is less harmful to the environment than Dot or common mineral oils.
It isn't actually green, but a bit better.
  • 1 0
 I haven't had a motorized vehicle in nearly 8 years, but that Rocky Mountain Defender / Camper has me hot under the collar. Hot Diggity!
  • 2 1
 If more ebikes mean more people supporting trail access, trail maintenance and just more trails, I will support them.

#itsaboutthebigpicture
  • 1 0
 Does that say Fahrtwind on the back of that trailer? I'm sure that doesn't mean what I want it to mean!
  • 3 2
 that Bergamont 24 is almost 32lb - lift assist only with that one. wonder if there is a frame only option
  • 8 1
 OK it aint a light weight, but if 32 lbs where uplift only, I'd never have started in this game.
  • 6 0
 @carlitouk: I think @poah was probably taking into consideration who is likely to be riding that bike--an 6-10 year old. 32lbs is nothing for an adult, but if I were trying to pedal a bike that weighed a third of my body weight, I might be in trouble..
  • 6 0
 @mikealive: I'm with you there, yep, for a 6 - 10 year old, that would be too much.
  • 5 0
 @carlitouk: my sons ripcord is about 27lb and that's an effort for him but he is a lazy arse lol
  • 9 0
 @mikealive: Most kids bikes are heavy. TrailCraft makes a 120mm full sus that's around 25 pounds. Their hardtails are around 22 pounds.
My Daughters 20" wheeled Specialized Hotrock weighs almost 30 pounds. She only weighs 40 pounds.
Last spring bought my son a Specialized RipRock 24plus with more than a few reservations. But the sales guy assured me it was the way of the future. Better traction, Rollover, cornering, blah blah bla. Well we went out for our usual 10 mile loop and didn't make it 5. I was like what the hell. After a few rides we realized those damned Plus tires sucked the life out of him. I swapped out the 3" tires for some 2.4s and wow night and day difference. He's back to his old self. Cranking out 10-17mile rides a couple nights a week. Then he demoed a Trailcraft hardtail that was a mere 22 pounds with skinny 2.1 tires. Holy crap! He absolutely flew on that bike. Just over 8 minutes faster on our 10 mile test loop. Over 15 minutes faster than with the plus tires. What? Yeah we are saving for a Trailcraft.
Plus tires are a sham......
  • 1 0
 @Bikethrasher: For sure. But there's a huge difference between a 32 pound bike and a 25 pound bike...and your input speaks to that. Good info on the plus sized tires for the kiddos--hadn't heard any feedback on those yet, but it makes sense.
Have a few friends scooping up old 26" bikes on the cheap (how about a Small Yeti ASR frame/shock for $300!) and building bikes for their kids. Hardest part is finding a decent straight steer tube fork that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.. but that said, sweet bikes are being built around 25lbs for well under $1000. Rim brakes stop just fine for smaller riders, rim brake wheels are almost given away.. 1x drivetrain and away they go!
  • 2 1
 @Bikethrasher: You mean plus tires don't work on an overweight kids bike? Who could of guessed that?
  • 1 0
 @Boardlife69: After buying one for my son. I rode 4 different plus bikes and they where the slowest bikes outside of true fat bikes that I've ever ridden. Plus bikes are all hype. The negatives far outweigh the positives, for most riders. Especially lite riders or riders who don't produce a lot of power. Maybe you didn't read all my post. Same heavy ass bike with 2.4s and he was much faster everywhere. The bike handled way better as well. Simple facts he's back to ripping, and the clock doesn't lie. Plus is a Sham. Typical bike industry leading us one way just to go the opposite way 7 months later.
  • 1 0
 @Bikethrasher: Saying plus tires are a sham is like saying 29rs are a sham, or fat bikes are a sham.. no one is making you ride plus if you don't want to. Are they faster? Nope, and I agree that they ride like garbage. But as it sits, most plus wheels are simply an option for 29r frames. I can put 27.5+ 3.0 tires on my bike and have something I can ride on the beach or in the snow if I feel like it. The 27.5+ tire has also been great for beginner riders less worried about 'ripping', and more just trying to learn to mountain bike. That tire feels like a monster truck, no precision, but you just plow over everything, picking lines be damned.. but again, no one is making you ride it.
  • 2 0
 That RM Defender/Camper!!! *drool*
  • 1 0
 Very excited to see another rim protection tire solution, hopefully this one does not involve tubeless...
  • 1 0
 i'd love some of those Trickstuff's Direttissima brakes but at almost $600NZ each its a hell of a lot of money!
  • 1 0
 with all the shitty new fads around now i do miss the days of that scott in the first pic.
  • 2 0
 Italian Jack Russell
  • 1 0
 I thought it said ''Bergamont TYRD''... HAHA
  • 1 0
 That WetScream looks yuge
  • 1 0
 Paul stuff is still bling asf!
  • 1 0
 Dmr looks sick!
  • 1 0
 Wonder if it still has the 27.2 seat post.Last model was,seemed odd that in this day of 30.9 and 31.6
  • 3 4
 Breaking news :
The superamericans went TRUMP. let me guess the color scheme for the bike, eemmmm orange!!!
  • 1 0
 Dog made me smile.







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