Randoms Day 1 - Core Bike Show 2020

Jan 26, 2020
by James Smurthwaite  
Hope


Hope had their first-ever 35mm carbon bar on display at the show. They acknowledge that they're a bit late to the party with this one but claim they didn't want to simply push something out that would be too stiff and therefore uncomfortable.

Hope have used a new laminate for the bar that is layed up in their Barnoldswick factory to provide strength where it's needed most, allowing the rest of the bar to have a bit more flex. In fact, they believe it even surpasses the compliance of their 31.8mm bar.


It comes in 800mm width only for now and Hope are recommending it be used as an all-mountain bar, however, they claim it also surpasses many DH specific bars in strength.



SDG


A year after we saw a 3D printed version, SDG had a finalised version of the Bell Air 3.0 to show us. It's a saddle with 25 years of history in the sport from being the first-ever kevlar mtb saddle to this version we see today.

The Bel Air through the ages from the first iteration to Peaty's GT saddle to the leopard print years.

The saddle has a shorter overall length than before and it is made with a new lightweight injected foam, combined with a hidden undercut relief and a nylon glass fibre base bridge for added comfort.

Four price points are available, largely depending on the rails you go for. The steel version weighs 318 grams and costs £53.95, the lux-alloy version weighs 236 grams and costs £79.95, there's a fuel colour option of the lux-alloy that costs £99.95 and then a super-lightweight carbon railed version that weighs 181 grams and costs £179.95.




SDG also gave us a sneak peek of their Thrice grip that is coming in April. Weighing just 39 grams per grip and with three different textures to maximise grip and comfort, it's a very tempting offering when it retails at just £16.99.

Fidlock

Without the need to fit in a bottle cage, Fidlock can design a more ergonomically shaped bottle.

Fidlock have redesigned their twist release water bottle and showed it off for the first time at Core. It has a removable mud cap, a valved nozzle and is made from a less rigid plastic than the old model. The magnetic bar is molded into the bottle in the manufacturing process so there's no danger of it coming loose.



The German brand is also moving the manufacturing of the bottle back to Europe. Concerned at the air miles they were racking up shipping bottles from Asia, they've now found a factory in Italy that allows them to produce the bottle for a similar price.


Also new is the toolbox that can fit on any bottle mount using the same system. The box is waterproof, including the zips, and should have enough capacity to store enough tools to get you out of trouble. Be warned, it might get mistaken for a battery if you stick it on your downtube though.


We also saw a prototype phone holder from Fidlock. This uses a combination of magnets and suction cups to secure your phone and allows them to make a case that is barely thicker than a standard one.




Magura


Magura had their new 220mm rotor on display. It draws some inspiration from certain motorcycle rotors where the metal is allowed to expand as it heats up, which should increase stiffness after prolonged braking.

220mm rotors are now fairly common in downhill with Troy Brosnan first debuting one at Lourdes in 2017, in fact, Galfer athletes such as Baptiste Pierron now have access to 246mm rotors.

Endura

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While this may look like a separate jacket and pair of trousers, it is actually all one piece of clothing. Endura's onesie is designed to eliminate builder's bum without you looking like you're entering Chernobyl and they have updated it this year to provide riders with a bit more movement. The back panel that joins the trouser piece and jacket is now bigger so riders will be less restricted when they're in the attack position. The best thing about this is when you get back to the car after a muddy ride you can take it all off in one and everything underneath should be dry and ready to go.

This back panel joins the top and bottom halves and keeps your backside clean.

Fabric


Fabric now offers flag saddles for over 40 countries, here are the UK versions.


131 Comments

  • 202 4
 i dig the fresh prints of bel air
  • 12 3
 Who would use any rotor without cleaning it first?
  • 13 0
 Woah, not sure why that response landed here....sorry
  • 37 1
 I pulled up to my bike about 7:00 or 8:00 and I said to my saddle, "yo, Holmes, smell ya later!"
  • 23 0
 Would go well with a jazzy Jeffsy
  • 3 0
 @metaam: especially if you used it for dirt jumping.
  • 2 0
 @onemind123: going to up vote it anyway
  • 10 0
 I'd buy one...but I left my wallet in El Segundo.
  • 3 2
 Best jokes from the Prince of Bel Air: www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DaFFG9m7W8
  • 1 13
flag CrispyNuggs (Jan 27, 2020 at 10:02) (Below Threshold)
 Fresh prince of Bel Air is not funny. Should be called Bellend of Bel Air @zoobab2:
  • 3 0
 @gumbytex take your upvote and leave, you monster
  • 82 3
 So, please explain what the 35mm bar 'standard' is for if most manufacturers are trying to mimic 31.8mm compliance and comfort levels....?


Dumb...
  • 23 1
 I completely agree. And is seems like the options for a 31.8mm bar are fewer and fewer. So if I want to try a higher rise bar, I basically have to buy 35mm dia bars and a new stem. Wasn't it Easton that first came out with this stupid change? What was the reasoning? Some underground movement, sanctioned by the worlds most deviant master minds, and financed by big oil, to sell more stems?

When someone comes to the table with these "innovations", they should be beat with a 35mm bar that is compliant and told to try again.
  • 14 3
 Weight. Bigger tubes can have the same strength (and more stiffness) for less weight. But turns out too stiff is definitely a thing (hey bike industry! Duh!). So now they are, as you said, trying to mimic the feel of the narrower tubes. Spending way to much to save a handful of grams. I've never had a 35mm bar, and don't plan on getting one.

I went back to Renthal (also partly for the intelligent clamp design of having one side with no gap. So easy!) after trying Chromag, RaceFace, and Specialized alloy 31.8 bars, and none had the same feel as a good ol' alloy 31.8 FatBar. It might actually be close to as stiff or even stiffer than the RF & Spesh, but it just damps away little buzzes so much better than anything else made of aluminum.

Though I did just see a titanium 31.8 bar and THAT sounds like an awesome way to spend some bucks.
  • 5 1
 @mfronk: where are you looking that doesn't have 31.8 bars? Renthal (for sure) and RaceFace (I think) still make 31.8 x 40mm rise. More than that and maybe you really should be looking for 35mm.
  • 2 0
 @mfronk: I can vouch for Enve M9 (+50/810mm) and Apex, if the faceplates are carefully installed. Any stout stem should be good...I tried a Fatbar 35 and an Aeffect R 35, which combo highlighted how soft the stem was, and overly stiff the bar.
  • 3 1
 @just6979: To get a new bar - and the reach I wanted (and stock availability), I ended up with a Renthal bar and RaceFace stem....because no one had stock in an Alu bar w/ the rise I needed in anything but 35mm...the whole thing ended up costing far more for no good reason. I guess it is gooder or something.
  • 1 2
 and 31.8mm bars are trying to mimic the compliance of 25.4mm moto bars...
  • 6 1
 @just6979: It's so confusing how with handlebars they keep making them larger in diameter saying the bigger tubes can have the same strength and stiffness with less weight, while at the same time they downsized from 20mm thru axles to 15. You think they'd be going to 25mm axles or something..
  • 5 1
 Yep there's no logic in it whatsoever and if they're doing it for asthetics they have an awful taste as it makes every fork stanchion look like a noodle.
  • 27 4
 @davemays:

Has to do with younge's modulus of elasticity... a structure's stiffness goes up with the cube of its cross section width...so in the case of a handlebar (or axle) being a round tube its the diameter we're concerned with.. going from 31.8 to 35mm increases the stiffness about 46%. Now going down from 20 to 15mm dropped the axle stiffness about 68%. The thing is though... fork axles are relatively short compared to handlebars... and there's a lot less leverage trying to flex an axle compared to your shoving your upper body weight against the ends of a 800mm handlebar. Its the move to wider and wider handlebars which drove the move to increasing the bar clamp diameter.

When forks had smaller diameter stanchion tubes, the axle diameter played a bigger role in the overall fork stiffness but as those numbers increased (remember the original Boxxer DH fork, the first that had a 20mm axle had 32mm diameter uppers in 1997... which is the same as many single crown XC forks were using by 2001 through to the switch to 15mm axles) forks no longer needed the maximum diameters of axles to be "stiff enough" for the application. The only forks today which really suffer from a 15mm axle diameter are things like the Rockshox Bluto fat bike fork, where the hub spacing is 150mm and Rockshox unfortunately is still only using 32mm uppers on the thing (when they really should have gone to 36mm).

Also when the move to 15mm thru-axles happened, it was originally to be a better alternative to hubs with standard open QR skewer dropouts which had 9mm axle ends and a thin 5mm diameter skewer rod to apply the pressure to squeeze the dropouts together. This was being done on the same 100mm width dropout spacing (20mm downhill hubs used 110mm spacing) that most non DH forks used. Most actual downhill forks today are still 20mm axles, but they've largely gone to the boost hub (which sets the spoke flanges and more importantly to this discussion, the hub bearings further apart on the axle both of which combine to increase the stiffness of the wheel). Its the in-between fork types like all-mountain and longer travel trail bike forks where a brand might go 15mm instead of 20mm.
  • 2 4
 @just6979: The weight you save in the bars is outdone by the weight you gain in the larger stem.
  • 4 0
 @just6979: with stack heights being short (head tubes are practically nothing anymore) I hate running 3 inches of spacers under the stem. I have 50mm riser bars on my last three bikes. I have been running spank bars and they seem to be one of the few still doing 50mm rise in aluminum at 31.8. For what its worth, I do like them.
  • 1 0
 @mfronk: spank aluminum on both my mountain bikes.
  • 2 0
 Just something new for you to buy and keep the bike industry moving. Just a USP. You choose if you want to adopt it Smile
  • 3 0
 @mfronk: CRC had a sale on Easton stuff a couple of years ago so 4 of my bikes are running identical Haven Carbon 35 bars. They're very comfortable for me and they haven't broken so that's a success!
  • 1 0
 @mfronk: I saved a decent amount of weight switching from my 31.8 Chromag stem to a Burgtec 35mm.
  • 1 0
 To match 35mm handlebars with added flex, they should introduce suspension with a lock out you can not unlock.
  • 1 0
 @lacuna: The 35mm Haven bar is my favorite of all time. I ran it on quite a few of my bikes before I finally let it go with my Transition Scout. I was hoping one of Race Face's bars would have the same feel, but I haven't felt that. Currently running Spank Vibrocore on a Rocky Slayer and it may be better, but my memories of the Easton Haven make me think that's the best bar I've ever ridden. Perception and reality don't always coincide, but until I try one again I'll perceive it as the one that got away.
  • 1 0
 @RoadStain: I think you need to find a new shop. I can find 10, 20, 30, 40mm rise 31.8 clamp alloy bars right now from a half dozen different online shops. The LBS is a bit more limited, because it is true that some of the OEMs have dropped 31.8 from their house brands, but that's a different story. Aftermarket is strong and well.
  • 1 0
 @davemays: DIfferent applications. 15mm bolt-thru or QR thru-axles work by both being stiff and clamping the dropouts against the hub (~12-20 Nm, similar to 12mm rear axles). 20mm pinch-bolt thru axles rely more on the actual axle stiffness (a Fox 36 20x110 axle only gets tightened against the hub at 2.65 Nm).

The 36 (and 40 I think) axle system is so much better than the typical 15x110 squeezy type. The legs are allow to float until the pinch-bolts are clamped, which means the legs don't get pinched in or spread out _at all_ even on a hub with terrible width tolerance.
  • 1 0
 @danthepirate: Tapered headtubes do way more for making stanchions seem small...
  • 1 0
 @mfronk: Renthal FatBar 20mm rise & Apex 50mm vs FatBar35 20mm rise & Apex35 50mm saves ONE gram in the 35mm setup. And since the price is the same, that's $0 per gram! A single free gram _and_ more stiffness! Move up a race category!
  • 1 0
 @mfronk: Stack heights are shorter but axle to crown and ground to axle are both taller. 50mm is damn tall bars. I also like the slammed stem with riser bars look, but to an extent. Maybe 15mm of spacers and a 35mm rise bar as a compromise?
  • 2 0
 @ceecee: I'm looking at the M9 50mm rise bars (I'm 6-4). As DH bars I thought maybe they'd be a bit rougher than I was hoping but there just aren't many 50mm rise bars period. I'm on RF Next 35mm diameter bars and they are a bit harsh. Sucks to have to get rid of both bar and stem but seems like it might be pretty noticable.
  • 1 0
 @deeeight: This is why I love engineers Smile
  • 4 0
 Also something else to do with fork/frame/ hubs/axles interface standards... if you think general mountain bikes have it bad... HA. Look at fat bikes, or even road bikes

For regular mountain bikes, as far as "standards" go which were adopted by more than a single brand... dropout spacing has been 9x100 open dropouts, 9x110 open dropout (boost), 15x100 thru-axle, 15x110 thru-axle (boost), 20x110 (non-boost), 20x110 (boost) and that's basically it for forks, and for frames we had 10x135 open dropouts, 10x141 open dropout (boost), 12x135 thru-axle, 12x142 thru axle, 12x148 thru-axle (boost), 12x150 thru-axle, 12x157 thru-axle (non boost) and 12x157 thru-axle (boost).

But its only been boost standards shaking things up recently. Its now a solid 30 years since rear hubs went 10x135 open dropouts and that is still in production and usage (as are forks/hubs for 9x100). Now as far as disc mount offsets go, fronts have had their own lateral offset different from rear hubs since about 1999 and that still holds true today. But because the first real mainstream "production" fat bikes were using rear hubs for both the frame and fork, the early fat bike forks had to adopt the rear hub disc mount offset. As the market expanded and fat-specific front hubs were being produced by more brands, makers decided to adopt the same front disc offset as other mountain bike forks used even as they were going different ways for axle interfaces.

Thus for forks we have 10x135 open rear offset, 10x135 open front offset, 15x135 thru axle front offset, 15x142 thru-axle front offset, 10x150 open front offset, 15x150 thru axle front offset. The 15x142 in particular was a Salsa pushed development for carbon rigid forks that was adopted by only a couple other brands and instantly made obsolete when Rockshox pushed out the Bluto fork with the 15x150 spacing the same year, and Salsa up and abandoned it after only one model year. For rear hubs we've had 10x135 open, 10x170 open, 10x190 open, 12x177 open, 12x197 open. Now the thing is...that all happened in only ten years.

Road bikes for a long time were 9x100 and 10x130 open dropouts and that was it... but when discs came there was a transition period where some road/cross/touring frames were being made in 10x130 and others were adopting the mountain hub standard of 10x135. Then there's been the mounts (flat mounts were a road development, although partially based on the old hayes specific 22mm flat mount in concept, they kept the wider bolt spacing similar to 74mm post mounts), and the axles we've seen 12mm thru-axles adopted in back like mountain bikes use... but for forks there's been both 15 and 12mm thru-axles and the later has emerged as the dominant standard for "road" groups because as I said in my earlier post... its "stiff enough" for the application. But there are some gravel/touring/bikepacking bikes made which rely completely on mountain group parts which still use the 15mm diameter front axles. The Salsa Fargo and Cutthroat for example both run the 15x110 boost pattern in front but in back the Cutthroat only comes 12x148 but the Fargo which has alternator dropout plates can be run 10x135 open, 12x142 thru or 12x148 thru depending on which plate set you mount.
  • 3 0
 @just6979: Actually, it's very difficult to build a bar out of carbon that is 35mm and lighter than it's 31.8mm counterpart. True, a bigger tube can be made lighter, but the constraint is how much material stiffness is needed to prevent crushing when clamped by the stem.

I know many component manufacturers did not agree with the engineering rationale behind the change (there is none), but were forced to go that way because of market forces.
  • 1 0
 @deeeight: The main thing to look at for those hub/axle interfaces is that even for all those different axles, there are only a handful of hub widths to handle all that: IE: for rear: x135 and x142 are the same hub width, just different end caps. x141 and x148 are the same, as is x150 and x157 (non-boost; super boost moves the brake rotor and may not fit on x150 or x157 frames depending on the brake mounts)

What is all that front & rear offset junk? isn't that part of the dropout and uses the same hub for each?
  • 1 0
 @UtahBrent: "forced to go that way because of market forces" makes it sound like they all stopped doing 31.8 because it wouldn't sell at all, which is not true.

However, it is pretty gross how marketing can truly rule over engineering. OEMs are only doing 35mm in house (for no reason except that it's new and different), so aftermarket has to also make 35mm or it seems like they're forcing you to buy extra parts to upgrade or repair those OEM parts: Got a new 31.8 handlebar for that recent Trek/Spesh/whatever? Need a new stem too!
  • 1 0
 @just6979:

Front/rear offset junk... you had the answer already...

"as is x150 and x157 (non-boost; super boost moves the brake rotor and may not fit on x150 or x157 frames depending on the brake mounts)"

The distance the brake rotor mount flange on the hub is from the brake mount on the frame is different than for forks. How different ? 5mm more inboard. Thus you can adapt rear disc offset hubs to front offset forks (by putting a spacer behind the rotor and using longer bolts) but you cannot do the opposite.

Oh also... and I forgot to mention this earlier... the correct front open dropout 135mm standard established by Surly, Salsa, 9:Zero:7 and others is for 10mm axle ends. But some late to the fat bike party brands went with smaller 9mm diameter ends and fork openings in order to re-use/re-purpose parts from their OEM in-house part inventory/sub brands. Now the consequence to that is if you have a bike with a 10x135 fork... a 9x135 hub/wheel WILL fit, but even with a properly tightened QR skewer the wheel can twist back and forth in the dropouts. But a 10x135 wheel won't fit into a 9x135 fork without taking a file to open the dropouts out more.
  • 1 1
 Metric system is not dumb, it is actually much better for making stuff. It makes developing process much more simple. Old 31.8 and 25.4 are imperial. Industry of making anything on the world should be reformed to use metric standarts along time ago, but there are some serious places on the planet that don't give up Smile sadly mtb had been born in one of those places... I hope people are getting where I'm trying to get. Meanwhile I'll try to understand why my sockets that are in metric sizes are used with strangly numbered interfaces like 1/4 of something or 3/8 of something, it's a crazy world.
  • 1 0
 @just6979: That is all well and good...I got a 60mm RaceRace....I could find 10, 20, 30 as well....The fact is I also wanted an Alu bar (no carbon on this bike). Just because a trend is going to lower offset, that is not what my particucar frameset (nor riding style) nessessitates.
  • 2 0
 @romkaind: Learn fractions and the imperial system will make much more sense. The reason it sucks is people stopped learning fractions once calculators were invented.
  • 1 0
 @skerby:

And that's just the imperial measurement system.... the british currency system up to the point they fully went Metric in the 1960s would confuse the f*ck out of anyone today who aren't past the age of retirement.
  • 58 14
 Why would you ever hold a rotor like that?
  • 10 0
 That will likely never be on a bike
  • 41 5
 who cares
  • 15 2
 it felt violent to watch
  • 61 0
 Dude, what if the ROTOR contaminated his HANDS........
  • 2 3
 My first thought as well
  • 33 0
 @priest55: Wuhan Corotorvirus
  • 2 1
 Since rotor holes are more or less industrial design choices, magura could have done better.
  • 4 1
 Who would use any rotor without cleaning it first?
  • 12 0
 Spray errr down with some brake clean and it'll be good
  • 12 0
 @deanr96 not everyone has clammy IT hands that grease up everything they touch
  • 13 9
 @vtracer: I am going to have to report you to Greta Thunburg for wanting to use Brake Clean.....well, after I finish spraying my driveway area with RoundUp.
  • 7 14
flag gnarlysipes (Jan 26, 2020 at 16:56) (Below Threshold)
 I had the same reaction. As a comparison, if you know anything about firearm safety, it’s the same as never casually resting your finger on the trigger. It’s just something you don’t do. Even if it’s not a production model. Smile
  • 11 1
 @gnarlysipes: I wouldn't put gun safety and touching a brake rotor in the same sentence. By the end of the bike show hundreds of people will have fornicated with that brake rotor.
  • 3 0
 But no one is talking about that hole in only ONE branch. That bothers me too much.
  • 1 0
 @RoadStain: how dare you!
  • 3 1
 @RoadStain: Both products you name are actually pretty good for the environment, because they shorten your life expectancy
  • 1 0
 @faul: that one hole is for adding a magnet for ebike speed sensors housed in rear dropouts. (yes, really)
  • 18 0
 i didn't realize we needed an ergonomic water bottle...
  • 22 1
 Or is it a fleshlight?
  • 2 4
 @tripleultrasuperboostplusplus: Why is this not „below threshold“? xD
  • 6 0
 @edfw: Um, because it is funny.......lighten up Francis.
  • 1 0
 I was going to say it's a good idea. Not for the way we hold them, but more like from a frame fit perspective.

Manufacturers need to start getting creative with bottle shapes. People are always complaining that such and such a frame doesn't fit a water bottle inside the front triangle. There is space, but not the right shape to fit around some suspension designs, typically the ones with the horizontal shock that meets the middle of the down tube.

There is still a large space in front of the shock and behind the head tube junction. All we need is a bike frame specific triangular bottle shape and a fidlock interface. It would look kind of like a petrol tank. A bike bottle is just a bit of blow-moulded plastic. It would be no harder to make than a round bottle. They could even include one with every bike sold that fits perfectly, and add $10 on the cost of the bike. It would only cost them an extra $1 to make.
  • 1 0
 @jaame: you have a good point
  • 14 0
 "Hope are recommending it be used as an all-mountain bar, however, they claim it also surpasses many other DH bars in strength."
I... Well... No, no I can't. Someone, please, help?
  • 3 0
 Well, they hope the bar is not used incorrerctly.
  • 21 0
 Because carbon. Hey guys we made a handle bar. No we didn't use perfectly good aluminum. We made it betterer with carbon. It's definitely strong enough for downhill, but maybe don't use it for downhill just in case. Remember though, betterer.
  • 30 0
 It must be ridden uphill occasionally to maintain it's structural integrity
  • 4 1
 @friendlyfoe: bestest comment
  • 10 1
 MTB onsie definitely looks like something that would come out of the UK.
  • 3 1
 getting into a onesie/skinsuit is an art. getting out of one takes a miracle. Guessing this is why they didn't even try putting it on a manikin.
  • 1 0
 I hope Endura takes that ginormous round arrow logo off their fantastic gear. I haven't bought anything from them since they added it.
  • 1 0
 Two words: shortie wetsuit.
  • 9 0
 Bring back the leopard print saddles.
  • 4 1
 Or camo
  • 1 3
 How about Fresh Scent saddles? Sweaty taint odor activated.
  • 8 1
 So which country's flag is at the top of everyone's list to smear your gooch all over?
I'm not sure this is an overly patriotic place to put a flag.
  • 10 5
 "Concerned at the air miles they were racking up shipping bottles from Asia, they've now found a factory in Italy that allows them to produce the bottle for a similar price." - Translation: We found a new supplier outside of China to avoid being subject to 25% tariffs, and we will capitalize on that move to pander to the enviro-nazis.
  • 5 0
 "We found a supplier outside China because every time we design a new bottle that we want to sell for $50, AliBaba and Taobao have the exact same bottle minus our branding for sale at $5. We trust the Italians not to rip us off and sell our shit out of the back door, and then pretend they aren't doing it. And if they do start to sell our shit out of the back door, the Italian government will shut them down."
  • 2 0
 Europe hasn't invoked extra 25% tariffs for products produced in China.
  • 4 1
 Are we now at a point where people criticize companies for trying to be more eco friendly while at the same time making fianancially sensible decicions? We also dont even have the extra tarrifs for chinese products imported into the EU.

Being able to talk so much trash without even making a point is quite impressive.
  • 1 0
 another possible translation could be; the option of manufacturing closer to pollute less it's always been there, but it would've been less profitable, so we ignored it until now that we've found an equally cheap factory.
  • 1 0
 @ismasan: Literally the only thing China has going for it is low cost of production. It has nothing else that companies want. Now the cost of production in China is increasing, more companies are looking for alternatives. Preferably ones that don't enforce partnerships with local companies and insist on the transfer of intellectual property and trade secrets to said company. Those practices were never desirable but they were seen as being an inconvenient necessity in order to take advantage of the low cost of production.

I am happy that Fidlock has found an Italian partner. Less money to the CCP. Although the Italian government is kind of getting into bed with the CCP so maybe I spoke too soon. Maybe it's a Chinese owned factory in Italy that employs only Chinese workers. That's how it can compete on price.
  • 1 0
 @jaame: all good with financial decissions, except when they try make us believe the reasons behind them are others, like a new found eco-consciouness Smile
  • 1 0
 @ismasan: I agree. I would prefer home grown because it's just better for the economy if we pay locals. Not many people want to pay more for the same thing though.
  • 6 0
 Looks like Endura let the interns set up the booth again... You're going to a massive bike show and you didn't think to maybe pack an extra dummy to put your flagship outfit on???
  • 1 0
 More Eco that way
  • 2 0
 Anybody know where I can get an SDG Leopard print saddle? I feel as though I need this in my life. I'm serious. if you have one let me know or where I can still find one. Google isn't being helpful. None on ebay that i can find..
  • 5 0
 Who makes the purple seat clamp for the transfer post
  • 1 0
 Check the other Core bike show story it was for one of the custom bikes.
  • 1 0
 I think it’s a one off, but I want one!
  • 1 0
 I have a purple seatpost clamp made by Salsa Smile
  • 2 0
 @JimmyWeir: my too, but we were talking about the clamp that holds the actual seat under the saddle that is part of the transfer.
  • 1 1
 @Telebikes: It's probably a custom job. They anodized the rest of the transfer purple as well.
  • 1 0
 You know what I dislike about most saddle manufacturers? Their inability to continue making the same damn saddle....they always have to slightly change the shape/design/padding/materials every year. By the time I've found a new saddle I like, the company who makes it is already on another revision of it, and I'm back to square one looking for a saddle.
  • 5 1
 Endura need to work on their display skills.
  • 3 2
 I see what Fabric are doing
No "Northern Ireland" flag?
I for one am happy to see the re-unification of Ireland starts with the mtb saddle industry.
Next year I'd like to see the "United Celtic Kingdoms" saddle
  • 2 0
 Dream on Nicola Sturgeon
  • 2 0
 @CrispyNuggs: Referendum!
  • 4 1
 @gumbytex well done.
One day your prints will come.
  • 3 0
 My thoughts were not ‘oh, water bottle’ when I first saw the Fidloc...
  • 3 0
 Ahhh no touching the rotor!! Major OCD haha.
  • 2 0
 Is that a Smith full face helmet rocking Koroyd I see there with the Endura onesie?!?!
  • 1 0
 It’s exciting to see Hope expanding their lineup tup I really like that 220mm rotor too! That would pair up perfectly to a 29er DH sled
  • 3 1
 Yea first 220 rotor in 2017
You mean like 2009 right?
  • 4 0
 I don’t think they were claiming to be the first 9 inch brake rotor. Hayes has been making them since the early to mid 2000s. It just wasn’t common until recently for people to use them (probably because of the advent of 29er dh bikes).
  • 1 0
 Hope have had a 9" disc since around 2002 from what I remember
  • 1 0
 I feel sooooo vindicated buying a purple bike. All these trinkets, all in purple.
  • 1 0
 @Magura Please make some 180mm versions of the new rotors. They look so rad.
  • 1 0
 Thumbs up to the new Fidlock bottle. The old one was pretty bad. Also very glad to see the inclusion of a mud cap.
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 Why do we need 220mm discs again? Im 240lbs and 203mm is fine.
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 I'm on lowly XT but didn't notice any difference going from 180 to 203.
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 For racing bikes down tracks like Vallnord. I don’t see a problem with having disc size options.
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 It's cheaper to buy bigger discs than a good set of brakes.
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 You might not need it but that doesn't mean other won't. Stronger brakes reduce arm pump.
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 @SintraFreeride: i didn’t actually know that. How does it help? I’m not trolling here Smile
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 I've still got a 210mm rotor from Magura Gustav M. I wonder what fork manuals mention about this. All Magura forks are certified for brake rotors up to 210mm but most other brands seem to be limited to 203mm (if not smaller for XC). Or has that been lifted in recent years?
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 E-bikes need them Wink
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 @vinay: JRA if it breaks
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 Any idea yet what the sweep and rise numbers will be for that bar?
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 What helmet is the Endura scarecrow wearing?
  • 1 0
 PNW Components 31.8 Range bars are sweet!
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