Randoms Round 3 - Eurobike 2017

Sep 1, 2017
by Vernon Felton  
Eurobike 2017

Eurobike Randoms Round 2
Syncros' Hixon iC integrated, carbon bar and stem tips the scales at a feathery 290 grams. That weight is for the 760-millimeter wide bar with a 50-millimeter virtual extension The Hixon iC sells for $329 and is available in 40, 50 and 60-millimeter extensions. The bars feature 12 millimeters of rise and a 9-degree backsweep.

Marin Wolf Ridge Attack Trail

Marin Wolf Ridge Attack Trail
There are a lot of people talking about Marin's new bike line these days--particularly the 160-millimeter travel Wolf Ridge 29er (at left), which is based on Nail'ds R3ACT rear suspension system. There are, however, plenty of other bikes in the Marin booth, including the updated Attack Trail 8 (shown above). The Attack Trail has been Marin's main enduro model for a while now, but for 2018 it gets a bit longer in the cockpit. The company felt the reach was the main thing that needed to be tweaked with the bike's geometry. The $4,200, Attack Trail gets a beefed-up Boost 148 rear end as well and is hung with a quality parts kit that includes SRAM GX Eagle, a RockShox Lyrik RC fork and a Monarch Plus RCT3 Debonair shock.


Eurobike Randoms Round 2
Lezyne's Classic Chain Drive actually debuted a ways back, but I'm a sucker for nice shop-quality tools, so this is what struck my eye as I walked past their booth. The chain breaker has that endearing elegant-yet-strong-like-bull thing going for it. The nicely turned wood handle, the hardened-steel breaker pin (there's an extra pin tucked away inside the handle) and you can adjust it to work with any chain. Nice. At $50, it ain't cheap, but it's on par with other shop-grade chain breakers.


Eurobike Randoms Round 2

Bill Shook, the engineering muscle behind American Classic, came up with the 3430 wheelset after he found people were flat spotting the hell out of the company's Wide Lightning wheelset whilst enduro'ing about. The Wide Lightning, however, was never meant to be bashed about on longer-travel bikes. It was always an ultra-light, cross country wheel. The Wide Lightning, however, was wide as hell and paired well with big hunks of rubber...leading to its use on the hairier end of the mountain biking spectrum. Complaints of "Hey, I just bent my Wide Lightnings all to hell," gave Shook a clear understanding of how to design a wheel that would thrive in enduro's more demanding conditions.

Eurobike Randoms Round 2

The Wide Lightning rim shape was spot on, but the wheels were consistently getting bent on the sidewall and hook section of the rims. Shook designed the new 3430 rim so that this vulnerable section of the rim was three times thicker than that of the Wide Lightning. The extra material adds about 60 grams to each rim. "It's like the Wide Lightning on steroids," says Shook. But it's still, for an enduro wheel, quite lightweight. The 29er version of the 3430 weighs in at 1,855 grams. American Classic also offers a 27.5 version. The 3430 is also available in both Boost and non-Boost iterations. Internal rim width? Thirty millimeters.The 3430 will be available in spring of 2018.

Eurobike Randoms Round 2
Kenda's Nevegal was a classic tire back in the day. The company went back to the drawing board with the Nevegal. It's still an all-condition tire, but like the new trail version of the Hellkat, the latest version of the Nevegal is built upon Kenda's lightweight, Advanced Trail Casing. The Nevegal features a bit of sidewall protection as well as a proprietary aramid layer that runs down the center of the tire casing, to help prevent puncture flats. The new Nevegal doesn't feature as aggressive a tread pattern as the Hellkat. It's low rolling resistance, makes it a promising choice for a rear tire, though it can also be run front and rear on trail bikes. At less than 800 grams, a 27.5x2.4 Nevegal is also relatively svelte.


Eurobike Randoms Round 2
Depending on how you swing, riding a bike trainer can either be a great way to stay fit during the winter or an excellent first-step on your journey to a hot, sweaty and tedious journey into hell. Who's up for sweating their balls off on a stationary bike? Any takers? Hello? Anyone? Cue the sound of crickets. Well, Wahoo's Kickr smart trainers are designed to help you stave off madness during winter training by allowing you to connect the trainer to your laptop and feel the pedaling pain as you watch a little, digital version of you feeling the same pain on a virtual ride. It's like virtual riding masturbation. Except it hurts. And that's good. Or so I am told....

Well, the latest addition to the Kickr line is the Kickr CLIMB. In a nutshell, as you begin to gain elevation during your pre-programmed, training rides, the fork attachment rises, giving you a more realistic approximation of how much it sucks to suddenly hit that 20 percent grade that, in the real world, would have you vomiting by the side of the road, but in our virtual, smart-trainer world, merely has you vomiting in your family room instead. Clearly, I've not joined the ranks of the smart-trainer, Zwift-obsessed. I am, however, surrounded at work by guys who've grown increasingly fast and fashionably wraith-like thanks to their smart trainers. Becoming addicted to indoor training seems as likely a proposition to me as growing addicted to plunging an ice pick in my eye. After seeing the results, however, I'm thinking there might be something to it after all.

Eurobike Randoms Round 2

Eurobike Randoms Round 2
Back in America, e-bikes are still as popular as genital herpes. Over here in Europe? They are truly popular. In fact, "popular" is a decidedly inadequate adjective in this case. Eurobike is absolutely rife with e-bike-specific saddles, hydration packs, grips and any kind of product large enough for you to slather on the the word "e-bike". And yet there's no denying this fact: every time I walked past the Pivot Cycles booth, there was a small crowd of people staring at their new "Shuttle" e-bike. The Shuttle won't be up for sale in North America during 2018, but it looks like it might go gangbusters on this side of the Atlantic.


Randoms
The companies manning booths at tradeshows often entice visitors to stop and check out the goods by laying out bowls of snacks. Surprisingly, no one was lining up to partake of this bowl of dicks. Who'd have guessed?



135 Comments

  • + 442
 Eat a bowl of dicks you e-bikers!
  • - 240
flag knarf1 (Sep 1, 2017 at 14:39) (Below Threshold)
 Eat ur bowl of dicks, pedal assits bikes r coming. Pivot looks awesome!!!
  • + 68
 @knarf1: You aren't welcome here.
  • + 15
 The best subliminal message I've ever seen.
  • + 0
 @Ride406orDie: *superliminal advertising
  • + 13
 $329 for a stemless carbon bar? Grab a spoon and join the e-bikers!
  • + 3
 @knarf1: Hahahaha, Surry!
  • + 13
 @knarf1: I was just being funny. Peronally I dont care if your bike can be plugged into the wall.
  • + 3
 Bowl of dick is for those doesn't ride at all
  • - 16
flag castlemtn (Sep 1, 2017 at 20:47) (Below Threshold)
 @YouHadMeAtDrugs: I can't wait to get my ebike and come rail your
Trails
  • + 5
 Goes well with the throbbing seat post a few days ago.
  • - 9
flag therealtylerdurden (Sep 1, 2017 at 22:36) (Below Threshold)
 @eimechanics: bowl of dicks is for sluts.
  • + 5
 This bowl of dicks goes out to the Pivot e-bike and it's pinner shock.
  • + 6
 @knarf1: Brace yourself! For the perfect storm of Specialized and E-MTB hate is brewing and will soon be hitting the Pinkbike shores! #kenevo
  • - 2
 @Kenfire24: That doesn't make any sense.
  • + 2
 Comment of the year!!
  • + 4
 @knarf1: I think you could have turned the up vote/down vote thing around just by the word "moms" between ur and bowl
  • + 4
 I mailed those to sram with my guide brakes.... I figured they loved eating that sort of thing there.
  • + 3
 @knarf1:
Notice the hate flowing through the downvotes?
That's how much we hate eBikes.
  • + 2
 that is the hardest i have ever laughed at a pinkbike comment ever. thanks for the laugh Gasket-Jeff.
  • + 1
 @Aviation23: baahahahaha!!!

On another note, you fly? My dad worked ATC at DVT for years!
  • + 63
 Bowl of Dicks definitely should be a punk band
  • + 3
 Bahahaha fuck yeah
  • + 3
 best I can come with
youtu.be/6m_4Kim4fWI
  • + 1
 @ismasan: My all time favorite band. Just saw them Saturday.
  • + 1
 @ttrevorbacon: fckin hell! I wish they come to Spain soon, they're in my top 5 as well, dying to see them live again!!
  • + 44
 That Syncros' Hixon iC integrated, carbon bar and stem is fuckin sick.
  • + 7
 @Capitanbikes I'd like to see some crash tests to see how durable it is. I know everything breaks but I want to know how tough it is. Damn it is a great looking piece!
  • + 10
 Should be wider tho
  • + 4
 And it's, dare I say... affordable if not at least comparable to a separate carbon stem & bars?
  • + 3
 I want one but since I like my bars rolled a bit more forward so the sweep matches a standing attack position the feel of the bars will be just wrong by judging from the pic. For me any how.
  • + 1
 I was at Eurobike and saw the thing - Alien movies are what I think of it.
  • + 27
 I thought they were bones...
  • + 73
 As Plato once said; "One man's bone is another man's boner."
  • + 16
 @dingus: I thought it was a bowl of Leichtes Stück seat posts
  • + 2
 They are.
  • + 12
 Definitely bones. I think Vernon has been spending too much time in the airplane washrooms scribbling dick cartoons on the walls.
  • + 1
 They are
  • + 24
 @vernonfelton Did you mean 20% of Americans have an E-bike ? because that how popular is genital herpes
  • + 29
 There's a difference between popular and pervasive...
  • + 34
 @slumgullion: Precisely. Many people have herpes...few of them are ecstatic about it.
  • + 3
 @slumgullion: hahah know the difference
  • - 3
 E-mopeds, are called e-mopeds.
  • + 5
 @vernonfelton: unlike gential herpes though, people with e-bikes usually are ecstatic about it.

And like herpes, they are spreading. The only real growth in bike retail, actually.

I am only pro-ebike for pavement/utility applications, but there's a reason most brands have them now.
  • + 2
 @vernonfelton : actually, over 60% of the earth's population has some form of Herpes. Drink that in.
  • + 23
 Whoever invented push fit bottom brackets needs to eat a bowl of dicks.
  • + 3
 Whoever decided to design the bike i bought with one definitely does, creaky bastard. Hahaha
  • + 1
 @Bigwill13: whoever decided to buy the bike should eat a bag of....oh wait...
  • + 1
 @joalst: i wasnt really looking at the bb when i was buying it. Apparently boost means you have to have pres fit. Trek are a bowl of dicks!
  • + 1
 @Bigwill13: haha I'm just messing with ya, man. I have a trek procaliber and the BB just started to give me issues
  • + 1
 @Bigwill13: nothing to do but nice try
  • + 1
 My 2004 Octalink cranks have gotten creaky too. When I ride through a tunnel, it gets pretty deafening. And this isn't press fit.
  • + 20
 That TV training thing reminds me of Black Mirror, 15 milion merits.
  • + 5
 Ha love black mirror.
  • + 6
 The next gen of MTBrs are going to be an embarrassment physically if this ebike shit keeps going on. If you want to ride down some sick lines then get the fitness to drag your ass up there. eBikes should be like a handicap parking tag in your car. You should need a medically significant reason to have one.
  • + 10
 So based on your logic riders of regular bikes should stop using lifts and shuttles and get the fitness to drag their ass up there. They should need a medically significant reason to use them...
  • - 2
 It's easy for you to 'drag' your ass up there because in your world the earth is flat is it not?

Oh and the controlling elite are lizard people...

And you're the cleverest person you know...
  • + 3
 That argument went out the window when I went past a DHer pushing up the hill smoking a cigarette. Helmet hanging on the bar.
  • - 1
 @bosnianrider Lifts are different, it's designated area made for that purpose, HOWEVER I did just a few days ago ride my full sus bike to a peak higher than the Garbonza Zone in Whistler so maybe they aren't needed? (It took me nearly two hours though)
  • + 2
 @warmerdamj: Wow good for you you're amazing.
  • + 4
 @chasejj: I all honesty it's probably harder to push a bike up a hill than to ride it, especially while smoking a cigarette.
  • + 3
 @warmerdamj: But they are still not dragging their asses up there so they don't deserve to ride down on sick lines. There are service/fire roads everywhere where there are lifts so using them is just plain lazy. As you could climb for two hours others should do the same...
I don't own an ebike (my wife does) but I don't have any problem with them. You can get just as hard workout with a pedelec as you can with a regular bike I tried it many times. The difference is that the climb that took you 2 hours would take 40 minutes so you could do one more lap in the same time. And no, you don't need a medically significant reason to ride one you just need a demanding job, family, very little time to ride and an ebike can make all the difference. For me it means my wife can ride with me which is awesome...
  • + 0
 @bosnianrider: If you get just as good of a work out then just use a regular bike and work your way up to being able to ride further or steeper in the same amount of time. Sorry, I'm never going to support this for anybody who is fully able to pedal. I would rather suffer for two hours on a climb under my own power than suffer, "just as hard" for 40 min with the assist of a motor.

I do think it's great that it gets your wife more into cycling though, now that she's up and running go remove her motor but don't tell her.
  • + 1
 @warmerdamj: Then stick to your pedal power and f*ck off telling people what they should and shouldn't do you dumb c*nt.
  • - 1
 @deadmeat25: lol I will stick to my "pedal power", I ride mountain bikes so it's a pretty big part of that. I think you are in the wrong forum, try here www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/the-electric-bicycle-club-of-britain.5627
  • + 6
 @warmerdamj: I know of a couple EWS pros who use E bikes for training purposes, and those guys can pedal. Why? Because they can do twice as much descending on one compared to a regular bike. It makes sense, and for people with disabilities. My friends dad (65) packed in the biking ages ago, and then bought an EBike and is now able to go and ride with his son.
  • + 4
 @warmerdamj: I guess pedelec riders will be just fine without your support. I'm happy for you if you choose suffering two hours on a climb - I do it also time to time - but at the same time not everybody has to feel and do the same way. In a perfect world we would have limitless time to ride so nothing would matter but someone has 4-5 hours a week and doesn't want to spend it on two climbs. I have no problems with that do whatever you enjoy doing... it's supposed to be a free world especially on the west so why all the hate what can improve from it?

The wife rides much less than I do so she wouldn't be able to keep up with me without the pedal assist. It's better for both of us no need for compromise when we choose where to ride.
  • + 0
 @ArchieDH: you don't know any ews pros and ya I'm sure you pedlec riders will be fine. I hear the next evolution in running is buying a golf cart. You can go further and it's faster. Dumb ass.
  • + 7
 This is why brexit happened. Britain saw how much the rest of Europe loves ebikes and voted leave because we want non of that crap
  • - 2
 Yes we do, it's you we want rid of.
  • + 3
 @deadmeat25: touché. I did however vote remain hahaha
  • - 1
 I finally get it - the same stupidity that brought us Brexit and Trump is also responsible for all the e-bike hate.
  • + 0
 lmfgdoa I am british and I have 5 bikes 2 of which are electric one 40 mph and the other will blow your mind the 3rd and 4th are cr1 and endro and the 5th is a downhill electric bike are sick sorry but people like you would be still living in caves embrace it but never forget mtbs
  • + 7
 Alot of dudes skipping leg day in Europe??
  • + 3
 Generation E bike
  • + 5
 Not as much as dudes using lifts and shuttles...
  • + 5
 almost got through a whole article without an e bike mentioned. pink bike stop trying to put this under our noses! Separate website please. Brownbike.com
  • + 3
 Why what's going to happen mate? Do i need to take precautions? Is the world going to end? Will the universe implode? Should i start stockpiling?
  • + 1
 American Clasic tends to be tight lipped about the difference in weights between rims used on their wheels and those available separate as a rim-only. I'd love to try a set of the 3430 (if I knew the weight of the rims), but I don't want to get a whole new wheelset.
  • + 3
 don't know how fast rolling a Nevegal can become, I had a pair of stick-E ones on my old DH, and the grip was there, but they were draggy as hell
  • + 0
 ebike is the way to see more and more fun and more trails, that s it..i really don t understand why so bad and agressive behave
i always ride with ebike also in whistler bike park, people hate me ( you cheat you cheat )
relaaaaaaax and buy an ebike...is very impressive going downhill
  • + 3
 Aside from saving weighweenie grams, what is the benefit of a bar stem combo? Looks cool, but I can only see downsides.
  • + 2
 Maybe for guys wanting stem lengths sub 35mm??? Integrating stem would allow crazy short stem, crazier than P-dent (what happened to that?)
  • + 1
 Try looking down.
  • + 4
 Wonder if the new Nevegal feels like plastic too.
  • + 2
 What was worse? The Nevegal or the Tioga Factory DH? They were made out of Tonka toy plastic.
  • + 2
 Is it weird I sorta got a chubbie looking at that Syncros Hixon? That is sexy as hell. I might have to get one of those. But I need an 800mm wide one.
  • + 3
 I would eat a bowl of dicks for that Lezyne, wait a minute I think I'd rather just pony up the 50 bucks.
  • + 3
 "Kenda's Nevegal was a classic tire back in the day"

Said no one, ever
  • + 2
 It was voted/reviewed as the #1 all-around tire for several years by most major MTB magazines and websites, around 10-15 years ago, i.e. "back in the day". Have better tires been introduced since then? Most definitely. But yes, the Nevegal was absolutely the most popular do-all tire back in the day. Bike manufacturers scrambled to spec Nevegals as OE tires on their bikes back then because of all the positive reviews and aftermarket sales. But yes, again, much better tires have surpassed it during the past decade or more.
  • + 2
 @tmargeson: Nevegal was all I used back 7 years ago or so. I think the tread pattern still looks good, but other companies now make better casing and compounds. If Maxxis made the Nevegal pattern, that's what I'd run today.
  • + 2
 @tmargeson: Precisely. We can look back and scoff at it now, but the Nevegal was quite good for its time. The fact that riders can look back now and call it shite is only testimony to how far we've come, as a whole, with tire design.
  • + 4
 E-bike specific saddle?
  • + 8
 They have a protruding nub (typically 3"-4") about mid saddle. It helps with all the climbing prowess. They also require special chamois cream.
  • + 1
 I love ebikes but this ebike specific crap is bullshit..
  • + 0
 Pinkbike...
We have to have that talk again...
You can NOT say things like "hung" and "how you swing" without us juvenile adults eating you for breakfast.
Sincerely,
- someone much to old to be sn*ggering at these innuendos
  • + 0
 Id really like the Hixon iC but the inability to roll the bar forwards is unfortunate. I like to ride a rather forward angle...
  • + 2
 Coolest bars ever made, please make DH version, please...
  • + 0
 Marins look e bike ugly with out any advantage, when can I get an e bike that weights less than 30lb, will have to build my own
  • + 2
 Plenty of dicks for everyone !
  • + 1
 At least Pivot named their bike the "Shuttle"... there's some honesty in that name
  • - 1
 So it seems that e-bikes have taken off and yet gearbox drives have not. Lets see a Pinion E bike.... that might be cool, kinda..... I think, but isn't that what a motor bike is......
  • + 2
 continental just launched a mid-drive motor with a gearbox in it...perfect for you!
  • + 2
 1 out of 6 people have genital herpes aged 14 to 49....
  • + 8
 You'd best get working on that under 14 demographic
  • + 1
 Know what's more painful than training indoors? Reading this post about how painful it is. Holy moly.
  • + 0
 Does that cool looking Lezine chain tool break the third time you use it for no reason like all their other cool looking tools?
  • + 1
 There is a website that lets you send a bag of dicks to your enemies for them to eat
  • + 2
 why is there a baron front rim and a flow rear on the attack trail?
  • + 10
 Good question. Marin feels the bike handles best with a wider tire up front and a smaller one out back. Not a huge revelation there--many of us have been doing that for a decade and change. However, they felt that a properly wide front tire required a wider rim than what was necessary at the rear of the bike. That's their reasoning. The show bike in the booth is wearing a WTB Convict 2.5 up front and a WTB Breakout 2.3 out back.
  • + 1
 Slick looking handlebar, but will it work on my V10?
  • + 1
 that bike is great! can't wait for this standard to smash the scene
  • + 1
 Dick n balls gummy bears?
  • + 1
 Not a bowl of gummy dix. Those are gummy rotational helmet pads
  • + 1
 Best looking Pivot yet. But it's an ebike...
  • + 1
 New tacky rubber compound: GD Gummy Dicks. Sticky and chewy
  • + 1
 Stir that bowl of dicks with a Tune seatpost.
  • + 0
 Marin attack trail did get slacker. Head tube angle lost a degree from 67 to 66
  • + 1
 Ebike is the new Enduro
  • + 2
 Not even ebikes are as gay as enduro.
  • + 1
 Marin looks sick!
  • + 0
 Cypress Hill reference today? Wu-Tang yesterday? I'm a fan.
  • + 0
 Only dick I want to eat
  • + 2
 No spotted dick for you?
  • + 2
 @MasterSlater: oh yeah...forgot about that
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