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Randoms Round Four - Eurobike 2015

Aug 27, 2015
by Fraser Britton  
Ion

Transom Pack
- Comes in 2 torso sizes, 2 colors and 16 and 24L versions
- SAS-TEC back protection
- Removeable tool pouch
- Hard waist belt allows you to adjust pack and protection away from your back to aid in cooling, when you're ready to head down, simply adjust it onto your back.
- Bladder compatible but not included (up to 3L)
- PU coated central panel to prevent staining from rear wheel splatter
- Optional Rain cover available

Eurobike 2015

Eurobike 2015

Eurobike 2015

K-Lite Zip Pad
- First zippered knee pad
- Easy to put on without removing shoes
- Lightweight trail padding, but features a hard shell kneecap over the top
- SAS-TEC padding
- Rubber cuffs to prevent slippage
- Velcro over zipper garage to secure zipper and customize fit
- Snug Loop Neoprene X strap surround entire pad internally to lock it to your knee

Eurobike 2015

Eurobike 2015

Eurobike 2015

www.ion-products.com

Bliss Protection

Team Vest
- New for 2016 with larger chest and back protection for DH
- 6mm padding all around
- Yellow tags on clothing signify DH protection with heavier padding

Eurobike 2015

Team Knee Shin
- New for 2016 with larger shin protection for DH
- 6mm padding
- Less ventilation than trail but more coverage for better impact protection

Eurobike 2015

www.blisscamp.com/en

Rotor

MTB InPower Cranks
- Comes in Rex Crankset
- 1 2 or 3 ring versions available
- compatible with all Rotor as well as aftermarket chainrings. Works best with adjustments available on 12.5% oval Q-rings to optimize power output.
- Measurements are all taken inside the BB shell, only the sensor remains externally on end of crank
- Includes software package to map your power output and spin.
- Compatible with Garmin using ANT+ to transmit data. No computer is included.
- Battery is a standard AAA and slips into crankset where bolt would be.

Eurobike 2015

Eurobike 2015

www.rotorbikeusa.com

SDG

Fly 2.0
- 20g Lighter than previous I-beam Fly saddle.
- Super low profile
- Red, green blue and black highlights.

Eurobike 2015

Apollo & Patriot saddles
- All Dirt saddles are now sensus co branded.
- Available online from SDG in Dec, orders will receive a sorry for partying SDG/Sensus T-shirt.

Eurobike 2015

www.sdgcomponents.com

Pearl Izumi

X Project 2.0 Shoe
- Eliminates all seams and hotspots using super thin 9mm "Second Skin" upper
- Dual closure opposing BOAs provide semi custom fit as shoe stretches to accommodate your foot.
- Offers increased breathability and aerodynamics
- Carbon Sole

Eurobike 2015

X Alp Shoe
- Same 9mm Upper.
- Single BOA with velcro lower zone closure
- Plastic sole with more tread for hike a bike sections

Eurobike 2015

Eurobike 2015

www.pearlizumi.com

Endura

MT500 Pack
MSRP: 140 Euro
- Features Koroyd back protector for level 2 EWS protection
- Same protection system as Smith helmets.
- Waterproof bottom, helmet carrier & pad straps
- Holds up to a 3L bladder, not included.

Eurobike 2015

Eurobike 2015


Luminite Helmet
MSRP: 75 Euro
- Designed for commuters, styled for MTBers
- Come in black and hi-viz yellow and green
- White reflective stripes all over for protection at night
- Feature a removeable USB charge-able tail light that simply snaps in and out.

Eurobike 2015

www.endurasport.com

One Industries

Tech Casual Shorts
MSRP: 77 Euro
- Built on the new "Trails to Ales" philosophy. Ride a bike then grab a beer!
- Look as good in the bar as it does on the trail.
- 4 way stretch shorts
- Welded pockets
- Water resistant T-cool fabric beads liquids
- Matching jersey is antimicrobial and hoodie is DWR coated

Eurobike 2015

Eurobike 2015

Vapor Jersey
MSRP: 77 Euro
- MTB specific cut for body position and movement.
- No more baggy moto fit.

Eurobike 2015

www.oneindustries.com


Fox Shox

Float X2 DH Air
- High & Low Speed Compression Damping
- High & Low Speed Rebound Damping
- Increased oil flow for better damping
- EVOL air sleeve for better small bump sensitivity
- Kashima coating

Eurobike 2015

DH X2 Coil
- High & Low Speed Compression Damping
- High & Low Speed Rebound Damping
- Increased oil flow for better damping
- SLS spring for titanium weight savings and lower cost
- Ti nitride coated

Eurobike 2015

www.ridefox.com

Park Tools

MT-40 Multitool
- Mtb specific Multitool
- Features 2-8mm Alan, 25 and 30 Torx
- Full chain tool
- CO2 inflator valve

Eurobike 2015

IR-1 Internal Routing tool
- Magnetic internal routing tool to simplify running cables.
- Simply run one end into each side of frame routing, they will magnetically join and you can drag your cable through. Comes with adapters for various cables and Di2 wires.

Eurobike 2015

www.parktool.com


126 Comments

  • 137 2
 Sometimes I wonder how these hydration pack companies make money. I'm still using my Camelbak Mule from the early 90s today.
  • 35 2
 I still use my dads original "Camelback" from 1982 which is basically an IV pouch in a backpack!
  • 9 8
 Rarely use my Evoc protector bag anymore. It has a massive hole in the bottom which occurred from regular use over the course of a year. Pathetically bad backpack. Lucky for me it was free. Would not get again. Might look into a Camelbak if their durability is really that good.
  • 3 2
 I've got two really thin lightweight camelbak packs. Crashed a bunch on both of them, they still look mint. If that's what the thin ones are like then the normal packs must be pretty bombproof.
  • 4 2
 bought my mule in 2002. still going strong. had to do some minor fishing line sewing repairs but i see it going for another solid 10 years...
  • 33 2
 Osprey bags come with a lifetime warranty. Pretty fast turn around time too.
  • 8 3
 I have had my camelbak since I was in school. I kind of want it to die so I can buy a new one but it shows no signs of that, it has been all over the world and through countless hours of riding as well as being my main backpack for day to day shit. I am in my late 20's now. Would totally buy again, wish I needed to. It wasn't even that expensive.
  • 3 2
 I have used a Camelbak Blowfish 20 every day for 3 years on my commute. I have used it for Commuting, DH, crashed a bunch in it etc. It still looks new. I have bought a Dakine bag since for bike parks and gravity days, just to have a FF helmet and pad retaining system, but the Camelbak lives on! Only issues I have had is the material 'tab' from one zip came off, and the internal plastic lining on the material is fraying a little in places. Easily the most durable pack I have ever had.
  • 5 2
 Yet another happy Camelback owner here. Bought a HAWG in 2007, still using it except for the bladder, which I left partly full for over a month while I went to Australia, it was waiting by the door to greet me when I got home...
  • 6 2
 My camelbak Mule I got on my 18th birthday is still as good as new, and i'm now 31! lots of use on dirt bikes and mountain bikes. Long live camelbak!
  • 5 1
 Its simple. I owe a pack for every occasion Razz
  • 4 3
 They sell using the magic words....specific, balance, adjustability etc etc....by the way...im still using my 2010 camelback rogue
  • 39 1
 I'm still using an ancient camelbak made from a wool mammoth's bladder
  • 14 1
 @Worm-Burner that one was called bladderbak back then but ppl kept on whining about it being another new standard so they just renamed it to camelbak...both versions were hairy as hell back in those days, though
  • 2 2
 @FurryCrew I think that is a problem for Camelback... they last for millions of years so nobody needs a new one, ( like MIELE in dish washers ahah ) but believe me, other brands are not so strong !!!
  • 5 1
 Bought used dakine drafter like 10 years ago and it is still going strong...
  • 2 1
 mine will not last more than 4 years since it has few holes and tears, but I'm very happy with it so I will buy another soon
  • 3 2
 I dont know why but newbies seem to think hydratation packs are the most important piece of kit evry single time someone gets a new bike at my local bike shop they mak a big deal out of the pack. So thats how those companies make their money
  • 3 2
 I use a high sierra pack. Got it from cosco for $20 5 years ago. Genius.
  • 9 1
 osprey packs are the ticket
  • 5 1
 got my dakine nomad in 2003. has digi camo and flouro orange highlights. You are welcome the design TLD. also the resevoir/pack just wont die! (maybe if i wash it)
  • 2 1
 Deuter EXP Race Air- framework keeps pack off your back, great durability and easy to clean bladder. Better than any Camelback I've owned.
www.deuter.com/DE/en/bike/race-exp-air-32133-76.html
  • 7 1
 @TheOriginalTwoTone sorry bud, you have walked into the Camelbak circlejerk. The sensible discussion of other brands is below.
  • 4 1
 I got lucky and one of my friends, who served in the navy was kind enough to get me a military spec camelbak used in Afghanistan, the thing is practically indestructible.
  • 6 0
 I've still got my bindle from 1897.
  • 2 0
 I bought a cheap hydration pack from Costco 6 years ago and I'm still using the original bladder. The best thing about it is that it has a neoprene covering on the tube from the bladder to the mouthpiece. This keeps it out of the light which prevents bacterial growth. Other than the pack making my back sweaty (I'm sweating anyway while riding), the pack is awesome and it was around 20 bucks!
  • 1 0
 How bout a 2 for 1 pack...modular pack w/removable bottom hip pack. What ya hipsters think? Maybe hiking ind has 1?
  • 1 0
 @VTwintips I just retired two Camelbaks. One original Mule, and an even older Rogue. Bought a Dakine on sale to try something different, although I'm still using the Camelbak bladders!
  • 2 0
 Check out Osprey. They make rock solid stuff and have a great warranty
  • 2 0
 I still have my 2005 mil-spec mule and it looks basically new i've just changed the bladder, that thing is truly indestructible although kinda hot and not very comfortable. I got a bigger camelbak fourteener on 2011 as a daily bag and apart from being dirty it's still going strong. I bought an EVOC fr protector last year, as i wanted the back protector and something more comfortable and with a little more space to bike and it's just as good as the camelbaks though 1we'll see if it's as durable.
  • 1 0
 Some of the newer camelbacks have a water pouch that is in the lower back/waist strap area of your back for a lower center of gravity, they work great!
  • 1 0
 @maxdeutsch, I have a wingnut and ya looks like camelback has a new one that copied them.
This new c.back will proly be my next pack. The wingnut straps aren't the best, doesn't breath well, soaks sweat. Reliable tho
  • 2 0
 @jrocksdh nice, camelback has had their ones around for a few years, I also like platypus packs from washington
  • 1 0
 Just got a C.Bak Octane. Great for the bike park when its hot, like right now. Stays more stable when jumping...
  • 1 0
 Don't worry about Camelbak, they fixed their problems with their packs lasting too long. Which is why I'm now riding with Ospreys.

Still have a couple from the late 90's/early 00's that are fine, though.
  • 1 0
 Camelback low rider is the new one. The charger kinda missed the mark a bit.
  • 2 0
 No idea. Im still using my Dakine Nomad Lumberjack Flannel colourway from half a decade ago. Switched to a Camelbak bladder solved any issue. Sure there are more refined, better ventilated, more tech packs out from Osprey, Acre and USWE but I haven't seen the need to purchase one so far.
  • 4 0
 One thing is for sure and that's that camelbak bladers and bite valves are the best of the best. that's what i use in my evoc
  • 3 0
 ^Yup. The Hydrapak bladder has a ncie fold and slide opening but the mouth valve was going to cost myself a tooth or two trying to open it on the fly. The alternative, keeping the bite valve open often left myself wet when the valve would pinch somewhere it wasn't supposed to.
  • 1 0
 Yah but those don't have a hip belt
  • 1 0
 In my experience my backpacks points of weakness are always the zippers and connections between straps and the backpack fabric. Make those stronger and my dakine and camelback would last much longer than the average two years.
  • 1 0
 The zippers have always been a big problem for Dakine. Their fabric is tough, but stupid heavy. I accidentally melted my Builder Pack with bug spray though Frown

For Evoc, they don't put nearly enough or strong enough fabric where all the weight concentrates at the bottom of their packs. They also don't have a good system for people who aren't fat in that my hips are wider than my stomach, so how are the hip pads going to keep the pack from shooting up when I go over jumps?
  • 31 0
 Hey pinkbike guys, Eurobike is full of super weird shit that we never normally get to see, can we have some really random randoms? These are all things you might feature on a normal week of reviews and first looks. I appreciate the useful coverage but I would love to see the whacky stuff too. Quick guideline. If you think "yeah, that might work" then it isn't random enough.
  • 7 0
 What he said
  • 30 1
 Jeez, I have to get dressed in all that crap just to ride my bike?
  • 9 0
 No
  • 16 0
 A pack which pivots away from your back so it doesn't get too hot? There are times when I've got to the bottom of a descent and realised that at the top I had forgotten to unlock my shocks, left glasses on my helmet and (from yesteryear) left the chain on the granny ring after the preceding climb, so what are the chances of remembering to re-pivot a rucksack?!
  • 27 11
 "Built on the new "Trails to Ales" philosophy. Ride a bike then grab a beer!" f*ck off Pinkbike! Stop giving everything a shite name and 'niche market'. Riding a bike both up and down (I think the call that enduro now?)a hill and finishing the ride with a beer is what man has been doing since they stuck two moving round things underneath something to sit on.
  • 17 5
 Agreed - A ride with a beer is what people like us do because we aren't "serious" riders (don't race, don't train and just ride for ridings sake). By making "trail to ale" a thing we will end up being told what to do, what to ride and what to wear to fit into this newly emerging sub-genre!

We dont need specific clothes to stop off at the pub because guess what.........we didn't leave the house in ridiculous troy lee clown pyjamas in the first place!
  • 9 8
 I think you need to take a chill pill. There's a lot of people out there who probably should drink a beer after their ride because they would enjoy the whole experience more (who doesn't like a cold one after a ride?). These people probably still wear spandex on their trail bike. These are the people who need encouraging to drink beer and not take our sport quite so seriously.

Then there are people like you who need beer to not be such an a**hole. Go drink one.
  • 5 1
 Guys, I agree whole heartedly ... But can we knock it off with the whining?? If you give it no attention it might just wither and die ...
  • 6 13
flag petehaddock (Aug 28, 2015 at 7:24) (Below Threshold)
 Sorry Gooutsidetoday but don't try arguing with Englishmen (or even worse Scotsmen) about matters concerning the pub. Both myself and probably Sessrider drink in pubs that have been around longer than modern America has existed. A traditional British boozer has standards of etiquette and a list of unwritten rules that transcend anything that is forced upon us by a clothing company based in a country that classes coors light and budweiser as 'beer'.

Also I'd love to see you walk into The Kings Head on a friday night in your best 'trail to ale' outfit, order a 'cold one' and call someone an a*shole!
  • 13 4
 Jesus with all that experience you'd think they would've won the war ...


Wink
  • 6 0
 we're still fighting America's 'war on terror' ... with a few beers in between
  • 1 0
 @petehaddock -- so what are some good alternatives? Honestly, I'd love to see what works on a bike but is considered acceptable at The Kings Head because I loath the style of most riding kit (Troy Lee Clown Pajamas, haha!).
  • 1 0
 Simple, any riding gear that doesn't try and look like race kit. Big logos and day glow colour schemes belong on the track were your being paid to wear them. While I most definitely would wear these particular shorts on a casual ride it annoys me that the company feel the need to create a genre of rider that already exists and has done for years. Make subtle kit that doesn't look like a walking billboard and ill buy it. Just don't make a big deal about it.
  • 1 0
 Tech Spec casual wear is more than just about colours - ever wished that your specifically cut riding shorts had deeper pockets? A bigger fly zipper? Belt loops? A wallet pocket? You probably did, but they don't because they're built to be specifically riding shorts, even if they're not bright colours.

Tech Casual type products bring the best of both worlds - they'll never be as great for riding as proper riding shorts, but when was the last time you found some casual shorts with 4-way stretch and water resistant fabric in a riding specific cut?
  • 2 0
 I know what you describe...I just have a hard time finding such gear! Completely agree with you, though, on style preferences. I like this One Ind. short, just wish it came out three weeks ago. I don't know...I don't so much see it as the company trying to create a new genre of rider as much as just fill a gap in the market. One thing is sure for me...whatever I wear when I ride, and whether or not I buy these or any other shorts, my pattern of riding and drinking beer will not change!
  • 14 0
 I was looking at the backpack and reading about the knee pads below: "Easy to put on without removing shoes" It took me a good minute of thinking about why someone would need to remove their shoes in order to put a backpack on before I clued in... I really need to go to bed.
  • 10 0
 You can make that magnetic tool using niobium magnets from princess auto and some poly tubing.
  • 2 1
 Well they patented it first
  • 11 1
 can't patent string and a vacuum
  • 4 0
 If you word it right and pay all the fees and/or apply it to a new industry, yes, yes you can. I knew a fellow who got US Patents on what were essentially "the wheel" and "fire". The US patent and trade mark office is infamous for allowing ridiculous patents on obvious to any moron type inventions. There's a patent for a fart powered gun among other things.
  • 2 0
 There's been a virtually identical product for stud walls for years now.
  • 15 0
 Gonna work wonders on a steel frame!
  • 7 0
 Far better solution that I have been using. Tie a cable to long piece of dental floss. Thread the dental floss into the frame then attach a hoover (other vacuum cleaners are available) and suck the dental floss to where you want it to exit. Pull the floss attached to the cable and job done Smile
  • 3 0
 Air gun and string
  • 3 0
 Ask any shop guy, the Park tool came out YEARS too late, as mechanics had to fish cables for well over a decade without a special tool. We used our brains to create novel solutions to the internal routing problems, and didn't wait for Park to make yet another mediocre tool. While some of their tools are invaluable and industry standards (Ts-2) that hit reasonable prices, I think they put out too much garbage. How many campy bearing tools have you broken? I've broken 3 on their first go out of the box. Is it too much to ask that a cone wrench is at least close to the same hardness as the cone so it doesn't mar the tools flats on the first use?
  • 1 0
 ^This. Other tool companies get my money these days, like Pedros.
  • 1 0
 Yeah, I use park in the shop that I work in and I find them really hit and miss. Most of their stuff certainly isn't amazing. The cable routing kit featured here for example - the magnetic ends are too wide to fit through most internal routing holes, so it's about as much use as a chocolate tea pot. The only part that's actually useful is the large magnet, and even then, it's just a bloody magnet. I think sometimes Park rely on their reputation to sell some stuff, because they know people will buy it.
  • 7 0
 My hydration pack is from Costco and the name of the brand is FUL , I paid 25.00 bucks 4 years ago and still fine.
  • 2 1
 In the same boat. When I see the way some packs are priced, I just shake my head.
  • 8 2
 Internal routing just maded so much easier.
  • 8 1
 magnets, is there anything they can't do?
  • 9 0
 External routing has always been quite easy, no
  • 6 0
 Make jelly?
  • 2 0
 Please endura fit better quality zips to the back packs. Mine broke first time i used. I mended it but have been nursing it since. Also dont use piping clips for the chest harness that breaks off to and is impsossible to refit . All little niggles of a otherwise great layout backpack. Hopefully the new one solves this stuff
  • 6 0
 Thought that seat said SLAYER!!! For a second..
  • 5 0
 Me too, I was then disappointed...
  • 3 0
 Diggin those tech shorts. Finally protection for my Beer-Bladder-Urinal-Splashback-Syndrome... That's the actual medical terminology.
  • 1 0
 does the guy wearing the shorts have a very small backward prosthetic right arm?.. if so beer spillage may be a problem....
  • 1 0
 the shorts are defo water repellent and comfy and all the features are cool ..

just the quality as always dire..i have 3 pairs and all the stitching is coming undone Frown
  • 1 0
 That's because yours are Pre-Production samples Tony...
  • 1 0
 the quality ..or lack of runs thru the whole range bar the heavy duty Dh pants the cuff stitching comes undone after couple rides and the colours never stay bright and vibrant
just because i had pre production i still paid money for them and they still should serve a as a pair of shorts ..its not like I'm deep sea diving and they haven't passed any safety certification ??
pictures can be provide if you need any pointers to try and stop customers getting well designed and functional products but in practice being sold products that are below the expected level of quality
  • 5 1
 Zips right next to my skin and a section that's highly likely to get scraped if I crash? *claps once*
  • 5 1
 I was thinking about all those hairs on my legs... that won't last long with those hair eating zips
  • 4 1
 Haven´t you seen the part inside that prevents it from rubbing. I think thats the real innovation because i really hate putting off my shoes whenever i put my pads on or of.
  • 1 0
 ^^
This X1000

Great idea and execution IMO.
  • 1 0
 Great idea… until you slam in such a way that impacts the zipper.
  • 1 0
 raceface ambush.
  • 1 0
 Depi-Light Zip Pads...
  • 2 0
 Ah yeah. I see now. My old eyes didn't catch that bit. My hairs breathe a sign of relief Wink
  • 1 0
 blackthorne (45 mins ago)

'Well they patented it first'

I think you will find MagnaMole patented it first after a successful pitch on Dragons Den 7 years ago as a fix to help cable engineers like myself get through cavity walls.

www.bbc.co.uk/dragonsden/entrepreneurs/sharonwright.shtml
  • 4 0
 Ahhh but see this is for bicycle frames, therefore the US patent office would consider it an entirely new idea...
  • 2 0
 So much actually innovative stuff coming from bike companies this year! Definitely a good time to be in the market for a new rig!
  • 1 0
 Are there any disadvantages to an i-beam saddle? I've bent so many traditional seats (Im hefty), but my buddies decade old i-beam saddle is still fine (well, besides having the top material shredded.)
  • 1 0
 No i-beam dropper posts?
  • 1 0
 WHY no i-beam droppers?
  • 1 0
 gravity dropper makes one
  • 1 0
 i-beam is OK, but for heavier guys who flex saddles a bit they can be quite uncomfortable because they have the solid ridge down the center. Durability wise they are way better though.
  • 1 0
 I'm seeing some nice stuff posted from Eurobike these last few days....looks like 2016 is going to be a good year for shopping for new kit.
  • 2 0
 I hope fiveten make a freerider with the cable closure system, its pretty spiffy!
  • 2 0
 One gets it! Tld has some too...functional materials w/steez I can rock off the bike!
  • 1 0
 " Built on the new "Trails to Ales" philosophy. Ride a bike then grab a beer!"

Excuse me ??? New !!!! I've been doing that since the 80s !
  • 1 0
 Any more pictures of the new ifly? I wonder how much more low profile it is compared to the old one.
  • 2 0
 CTD is DEAD!!!! Bravo Fox!
  • 6 0
 Maybe on the DH shocks but I doubt they'll trust XC riders to be able to ride without it.
  • 2 0
 I don't have legs like tree trunks ????
  • 2 0
 zippered knee pad ... why didn't I think of that ????
  • 5 0
 you just know leg hair is gonna get caught - ouch Smile
  • 1 0
 "First zippered knee pad" > sorry, not true: Sweet Protection had them for a year...
  • 1 0
 The Pearl Izumi shoe is the X-Project 1.0 not the 2.0... I have that exact shoe
  • 1 0
 Still using my Mule from the 90's but I have always hated the way its wants to climb over your head in rough terrain.
  • 1 0
 The Park Tool is the best thing on this page (apart from new Fox but we've all seen them)
  • 1 0
 i will wait until the FOX X2 has a lock out switch....(early next year)
  • 1 0
 Nice of ONE industries to bring a dirty pair of shorts to show off
  • 1 0
 They're not dirty, that's the water thrown on them in the picture below to demonstrate the water repellent features
  • 1 0
 Has anyone ever tried the bliss vest with a neckbrace?
  • 1 0
 It works good for me!
  • 1 0
 I'm so buying the ION knee pads. Cool idea.
  • 1 0
 I love my X-Projects, looks like i'm going to have to buy another pair!
  • 1 0
 Msrp for the Fox shocks?
  • 1 0
 Google says 595$ USD
  • 1 0
 Spend a little more and get a CCDB
  • 1 3
 You guys will only realise how shite your camebaks are when you own a Osprey Raptor..the undisputed king of packs
  • 2 4
 Tired of all that enduro? Check out endurA.

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