Randoms Round 2 - Eurobike 2016

Sep 2, 2016
by Mike Kazimer  
Maxxis Minion DHF skinwall
Skinwalls, anyone? Maxxis is increasing the number of tire options they offer with the retro sidewalls, including tubeless-ready, EXO casing versions of the Minion DHF, Ikon, and Ardent.


Yeti SB5
We took a look at Yeti's new SB5+ a few days ago, but the original SB5 has received an update as well. The standover clearance has increased, and the revised frame now has internal cable routing. The housing runs through tubes molded into the frame, and can be accessed through a port located on the downtube.


Yeti Beti SB5
The SB5 Beti bike shares the same geometry as the standard SB5, but receives a lighter shock tune, and a women's specific saddle. The low top tube height allows the XS size to fit riders as small as 4'11".


Polygon
We've seen a few different prototypes of Polygon's slopestyle bike over the last few seasons, and now the final version, dubbed the Trid ZZ is in production. The bike has 26" wheels, 100mm of travel, and a seven-speed SRAM GX drivetrain, complete with the shifter mounted to the downtube.


Mavic DeeMax Pro
Mavic's new DeeMax Pro 27.5" wheelset uses an aluminum rim with a 28mm internal width up front paired with slightly narrower, 25mm internal width rim in the rear. Claimed weight is 1700 grams, with a retail price of 1000 Euro, a price that includes the tires.


Mavic
A 2.5" Claw Pro XL tire is mounted to the front wheel of the DeeMax Pro wheels and uses Mavic's new Guard 2 casing for pinch flat protection.


Evoc Enduro shirt
EVOC's Enduro Shirt is designed to be used as a base layer, and features removable Sas-Tec shoulder pads, with a lighter foam padding over the chest. The shirt is designed to work with EVOC's protective backpacks, and has a mesh back panel for increased breathability.


Funn Chainguides
Funn has a new line of modular chainguides on the way. The upper guide or lower bash can be run separately or together, depending on a rider's needs.


Birzman M-Torque Ranger
Birzman's M-Torque Ranger multi-tool has a button that pops up when a torque value of 5Nm is reached. The device is encased in two tire levers, and includes 3,4, and 5mm hex keys, a flat-head screwdriver, and a T25 bit.


Giro Chronicle MIPS
The Giro Chronicle MIPS shares a similar look to the Montaro, but forgoes that helmet's integrated camera mount and goggle grippers to come in at a more affordable $100 USD pricepoint.


Giro Disciple MIPS
The Disciple MIPS is the successor to Giro's Cipher full face. MSRP: $220 USD.


Fouriers
Fouriers offer chainrings of nearly every possible size, including this oval, narrow-wide ring.


Ghost PathRiot
Ghost's PathRiot is ready to tackle some serious terrain with a 170mm Fox 36 up front and a coil DHX2 to handle its 150mm of rear travel.


Stages Dash
Stages are getting ready to launch their Dash head unit. The GPS-enabled device displays the data generated by Stages' crankarm-mounted power meter, and works in conjunction with the company's cloud-based Link training program. MSRP: $399 USD.


Schwalbe 2.6
Schwalbe had a number of 27.5 x 2.6" tires on display, including the Nobby Nic, and the Smart Sam and Rocket Ron shown above.


Garmin Virb
The Garmin Virb Ultra 30 records 4k/30fps video, and is able to recognize voice commands - no more fumbling around to try and find that tiny 'record' button. It's also chock full of sensors, including a barometer, accelerometer, gyroscope, and compass to record all the data you'd ever need from a ride. MSRP: $500.



94 Comments

  • + 168
 the beti bike comes with 2 brothers to follow down the trail and a lifetime guarentee you will get faster...
  • + 53
 Rachel Atherton would be getting triggered rn
  • - 24
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 2, 2016 at 14:49) (Below Threshold)
 @bridgermurray: you got triggered by a girl owning two Alhpa Bros it seems...
  • - 8
flag Murph86 (Sep 2, 2016 at 15:03) (Below Threshold)
 @rocky-mtn-gman HOW DARE YOU!
  • + 8
 @WAKIdesigns: out of interest, can you have two alphas in the same house? I thought by definition you can only have one alpha. Can someone clarify?
  • + 3
 @jaame: I didn't mean absolute Alpha, I meant the species of brah hero. I am cnt and comment way too much but I noticed an influx of neg props after I started making bro sarcasms. I'm slowly turning into deeeight... industry sympathizer.
  • - 2
 Right...because rachel couldn't possibly be the faster rider on her own ability and merits right ?
  • + 4
 @WAKIdesigns: oh you mean like Bro Science Life Dom? He's so f*cking alpha!
  • + 4
 @deeeight: faster is comparative and only compares two. Since we are comparing three Athertons, you need the superlative, which in this case is "the fastest."
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: what the f*ck???
  • + 10
 @Ryanrobinson1984: my sarcasm is so complicated that I sound like an idiot
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: "sound like"
  • + 2
 @stovechunin: yes I am a stupid, wanker retard, cnt of an attention wxore. Unlike all those decent people here who are busy shredding on their optimized bikes.
  • + 4
 There is a lot of crazy talk I don't understand going on here, but think I get the general idea, and I'm just wondering, why do we have to have so many raging sexists on this website? Why can't we all just roost loam, be nice and fahgettaboutit? I would hope that bikes make us happy and secure enough to afford to lay off the insults and negative aggressive language. Why don't people write something along the lines of "nice bike," instead of "the bike is so nice maybe it will even come with men to teach a woman to ride?" I gotta say, that's pretty messed up.
  • + 39
 That ghost looks real nice
  • + 5
 hell yeah.
  • + 4
 I would love to read a full review it's surely easy on the eyes though
  • + 22
 I have almost no need for it, but I want that little Polygon so much!!
  • + 35
 It's a bike, you need it!

Remember the golden rule: the number of bikes you need = n + 1, where n is the number of bikes you currently have.
  • + 3
 Sure you need it. Bought a DJ last year and although it's not a daily driver I am really pleased I bought one. So much fun!
  • + 2
 @ecrider: easily proven with mathematical induction.
  • + 16
 Mavic Deemax Pro - thank you, I want that so fricking much. Your wheels were always beatiful and insanely strong to my likes, but rim width and weight was not there. I am looking forward to owning these! Next years black friday Wink The tyre looks interesting too, I haven't seen anything like it.
  • + 13
 but its not bright yellow Frown
  • + 0
 But what's the purpose of having a narrower rear rim? I'm loving the 30mm internal widths, as I rarely fold the tires over, where as my Stan's ZTR Flow (25mm) I'm folding in bermy corners.
  • + 3
 How do rim width affect performance, can someone enlighten me? Honest question
  • + 3
 @Ride12: depends a lot on stiffness of tyre casing but in general, tyres squirm and burp less in corners since they have wider support. Bike feels more stable.
  • + 2
 @Ride12: @Ride12: The wider the rim the more stable the tire sidewall (for the same tire width) i.e. less tire roll/squirm. Of course, there is also such a thing as too wide a rim. Mountainbiking is only now returning to wider rims after following the roadbike mentality for years (we still have a ways to go rid ourselves of its influence in other aspects).
Mavic's use of a narrower rim at the back is solely down to having less weight like their Crossmax XL enduro wheelset from a few years back.
  • + 2
 @jordanneedsafork: it does have a single bright yellow spoke though!
  • + 18
 Looking forward to seeing people at the trailhead yelling at their garmin cams trying to get them to record
  • + 1
 Says to cam "On!"
Says to mate "Can you check its not still off?"
  • + 17
 Am I the only one who absolutely hates the tanwall trend? They looked shitty then, and they look shitty now. Haven't seen a bike that pulls them off at all.
  • + 2
 I'm glad I'm not alone...
  • + 2
 I guess it's because I've been riding MTB's since the early 90's but I like the look. Problem had been that no way in hell was I going back to running inner tubes to try them. Glad to see that there are some TR options coming though.
  • + 2
 They're ugly as all get out. Definitely won't be seeing those on any of my bikes.
  • + 12
 The 2.6" tyre trend is finally a size I was hoping for. Mainly riding enduro, I find 2.5" tyres perfect, but for riding XC you're usually stuck at a maximum of 2.25", which is a bit on the narrow side and has more rolling resistance and less grip. Where as Plus tyres are a bit too wide for me as they feel numb while cornering hard. The 2.6" trend makes it possible to ride XC tyres in enduro widths, having a faster and grippier tyre than the 2.25" version, but without the numbness of Plus tyres. If you ask me this width is the sweet spot for tyres.

Just marketing wise they haven't done a decent job. People tend not to like new standards, and they're introducing 2.6" as a new standard. Instead they should have made the tyres 2.5" wide and add in the description they introduced this version for more grip and less rolling resistance, instead of calling it a new standard. Everybody hates new standards, and now people will dislike it purely because they call it a new standard.
  • + 3
 would be running these xc tyres on a xc bike on xc trails obviously, not on enduro.
  • + 3
 @Mattin: downvotes for you! How could you say you like XC and make a slightest notion of positive feelings towards plus tyres? And then you go on saying that not all new standards are bad!

U no longer a one of the bros! LOL
  • + 1
 these new standards for tyre width are pretty stupid marketing wise. but i guess they can slap a bigger price tag on a bike that can fit "plus sized" tyres. i dont get why they just didnt say "now with extra mud clearance for larger tyres" that would have made a lot less keyboard warriors angry lole
  • - 4
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 2, 2016 at 14:57) (Below Threshold)
 @jordanneedsafork:

The meaning of life: make keyboard warriors less angry
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: lol Big Grin

@jordanneedsanewfork: they would have been able to get away with that if Plus bike wouldn't have needed a wider BB and a wider rear hub.
  • + 0
 @jordanneedsafork: Manufacturers aren't here to please the whingebag minority who hate every new thing that gets made. They shouldn't have to pander to the keyboard warriors.
  • + 4
 I had a few rides on 3.0 tires and I came away wondering why everyone had to go full-retard and make 3.0+ bikes built around boost and all that crap, when a 2.6 would be enough added volume for good low pressure traction without having to worry about self-steer and massive rims that comes with plus sized tires. It's like no one want to take a gradual approach they just needed new, now!! I think most forks will fit a 2.6, and the tires size doesn't demand boostilization, a least not for 27.5 wheels - I don't think, anyway.
  • + 5
 I look forward to a Magic Mary 2.5/2.6 in singleply casing with a weight around 850g so I can run it with my procore system. A 26+ tire from Schwalbe would also be awesome in a lighter casing.
  • + 2
 You stated it perfectly! I am a little shocked that tire manufacturers are releasing 2.6" tires though as they will certainly cannibalise some of the 2.8 plus tire sales for the reasons you mentioned. I just doubt they will measure out to an actual 2.6 so you may get your 2.5 wish after all. Enduro racers would certainly embrace 2.6 tires if suitable casing and compounds are released. These tire sizes keep most non-boosted frames and forks current for much longer as a bonus.
  • + 7
 Man... gopro needs to step their game up. People are getting closer and closer to them and surpassing them in many ways.
  • + 13
 GoPro's future as a company is at stake this year. If the Karma drone and Hero 5 that are due out this year aren't hits they will probably be out of business within a few years. The company was really hoping to become more of a media company, kind of like Red Bull has been doing, but it's not panning out for them. I just want a high quality camera with some amazing software that makes it easy for a computer illiterate guy like me to be able to edit together an interesting video. Software is key to getting a larger customer base. A lot of people never bought another camera after the first one because the software wasn't easy enough and people got frustrated and stopped using the cameras.
  • + 1
 @LittleDominic: I think you're on point here.

The little one hit a pretty good groove because it's so small but they really need to pack all of their technology into that size of a box for it to maintain.

Their standard stuff needs a huge update. I hate the way the buttons work. The garmin basically looks like the gopro but seems to have a lot more packed into it and easier to use. That's not good.

Their 360 stuff is a joke and pretty much everyone is beating them to the game including nikon.

I think they are still in position to do really really well but you're right... their next 2 products HAVE to be good. Otherwise the investors are gonna wonder wtf they put their money into.
  • - 1
 @onemanarmy: it is the very "360 for masses" idea that is a joke. It's as brilliant as filming concerts with your phone. Producing tons of information that nobody will ever use, that nobody is likely to enjoy watching (you included). But the real scary thing is a narcisst who would actually catalogue that and review it frequently.

So no, pov cam warfare is not really a football match to watch because another real scary thing is a dude buying different loads of sht often, to make sure he has the best thing.

And how noble is it to dismiss GoPro for being an absolutely dominant leader until GoPro3, with footage from Contour or Sony from 3 years ago was looking like GoPro1? Like those c*nts saying Fox lost the game after 35 Pike got onto the market with charger damper. It's just that Fox had charger style dampers in their forks since 2006.

So maybe other companies need a slap in the face for taking so long to get here isn't it?
  • + 5
 @WAKIdesigns: I've heard that the company is and has been in difficulty for a while now regardless of their competition.
  • + 4
 @WAKIdesigns: WTF are you talking about?

All I said is that they need to step their game up... and they do. That's the life of business... especially when it comes to technology. If you're not progressing you're falling behind.

I believe I also said the little one (the session) hit a good groove. For the general masses it's exactly what they need. Easy to use and very small. Picture quality is very good for realistic every day usage. But I do think for that platform to continue they need to stuff a bit more into it. And I'm sure they will.

The 4 is getting an update... it's called the 5? I merely said some things need to change... and they are.

Their 360 stuff as it stands right now... is a joke. But but the most part that industry is still in the early days of consumer available tech. Other people are beating them to the punch but for now it feels like they're o.k. with that. As for it being a joke that it's for the masses. I think you're wrong. There's a reason it's being integrated into helmets right now and companies like Nikon are actually doing it. There's money in it.

And people film concerts with their phone all the damned time? Usually sounds like ass and looks like ass but they do it anyways just so they can say they were there. I prefer to just enjoy being there. But even I shot a little clip when I saw skynyrd.

I'm also not dismissing them. I'm pretty sure I said they're in a position to do really really well? How's that dismissing.

And you can slap the other companies all they want until they catch up and surpass. Doesn't matter who got their last it's who's their now.... to a point. I mean.. there's always Microsoft.

So not really sure what you're getting at by quoting me on this one. I personally prefer gopro to the similar products. I've used many of the others... including sony and countour and I found big faults in both of them. I have access to them and I choose gopro.

My point was that the industry is rapidly catching up and in some ways surpassing so they've got to step on the gas again... and I'm pretty sure they will be. Hence 2 new products coming.
  • + 1
 Surpassed in many ways. Look at xaiomi 's offerings for way less money. There's a reason their stock is in a downward spiral
  • + 2
 @LittleDominic: I've been saying this and got down voted to shit haha. They are in huge trouble right now. They are basing their business on a huge margin monopoly strategy and are losing ground to everyone. The writing is on the wall if they don't revamp their business model and strategy asap.
  • + 2
 @makripper: yup. Steady decline for better part of 2 years. Was over 90... now $14.
  • + 1
 @onemanarmy: I really hope they figure it out. They sponsor everyone though and that doesn't really help when people aren't buying.
  • + 1
 Serious question: does anyone make a handlebar mounted record on/off switch for a POV camera?
  • + 5
 How many people have a GoPro and never use it anymore
  • + 2
 @sngltrkmnd: the one Danny Hart uses does, not sure what brand it is though.
  • + 1
 @qldmtb: Cool - looks like he uses a Tomtom. There's a button that can be remotely mounted on a hbar that tags "highlights" on a video clip. Pretty neat. Dunno why there is not an on/off button - that would be pretty useful to me.
  • + 8
 Cool! I didn't know EVOC made Captain America Fan-Costumes!
  • + 2
 I thought the same thing. But if you removed the star pattern it would look more like SWAT or Nigh Opts setup. And if that doesn't work, you can also do crowd control during the next riot
  • + 7
 minion dhf maxxterra 26x2.5Fs skinz. pls&thanks
  • + 6
 They've finally got rid of all that graffiti nonsense on the DEEMAX! Took long enough
  • + 4
 No one mentioned the Giro helmet with MIPS for $100. That's a pretty damn good deal for a system that usually sees higher prices
  • + 1
 Scott makes a MIPS mtb helmet for $75 MSRP
  • + 1
 @MTBLegend92:
Didn't know Scott offered theirs for so cheap now. Thanks for the info
  • + 3
 The Beti bike and Juliana cycles etc. Are good to see, need more female specific bikes in mtb
  • + 5
 well...as long as there's actually something female specific about them rather than just being labeled female specific. seems like that's what a lot of companies do...
  • + 2
 Apparently sarcasm is lost apon admins of pinkbike...... Smooth cover up ;-)
  • + 1
 The new DeeMax looks great and the weight is excellent, but the question remains: How about the hubs? Will the paws blow up after 2 months?
  • + 2
 Good work Funn. Been needing a combo that nobody seems to make. until now.
  • + 1
 I've been needing that for a while now! Glad fun stepped up!
  • + 1
 If only the deemax pro came in yellow..... or sort the rim widths out of the DH deemaxs ...
  • + 0
 The Birzman's M-Torque Ranger multi-tool has a bit of rust on the hex key. Pretty bad considering it is a display sample and probably had never been used in anger.
  • + 0
 Or it's one that has been extensively used and tested beforehand? Either way, probably not worth mentioning really.
  • + 2
 I like the Bizman trailside torque wrench! Big Grin
  • + 1
 That evoc shirt has a cramped neck line for a base layer. Base layers should be nice and relaxed.
  • + 2
 Yeti, Sthaaap! What ya doin'?
  • + 1
 Anyone know what the wheelset on the Ghost is? I want those rims for my orange Stylus!
  • + 2
 The guys at One-Up must be stoked with Funn's new ISCG chainguide
  • + 1
 They look identical. Hope they are cheaper than OneUp lol
  • + 1
 Well done Giro, well done.
  • + 1
 Totally digging the new Polygon. Does Maxxis offer the skinwalls in 26"?
  • + 2
 Garmin!!!!!
  • + 0
 Does anyone here ride with an oval chainring? I'm interested in what you(best friends) think about them.
  • + 1
 Wait, Schwalbe has a new redesigned Nobby Nic for 2017??!!
  • + 1
 Doubt it. They don't say there is a new one in the article though.
  • + 1
 @mgolder: the caption below the image says Nobby Nic so I assumed the one on the left was the one they are referring to since the tire on the right is definitely the Rocket Rons.

Would be cool if it was a new version.
  • + 1
 Garmin yes please !!!!
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