Results: New Zealand National DH Series Round 2 - Dome Valley

Jan 31, 2021
by Ed Spratt  


Tuhoto-Ariki Pene and Kate Weatherly take the top steps of the Elite podiums after another weekend of racing in New Zealand. Jenna Hastings ended the day with the win in the U19 Women's race and James Macdermid managed to take the top prize in the U19 Men. Check out the full results from the second round of the New Zealand national series below.




Results:



Elite Men:


1st. Tuhoto-Ariki Pene: 1:54.575
2nd. Brook MacDonald: +1.843
3rd. Finn Hawkesby-Browne: +2.804
4th. Louis Hamilton: +2.967
5th. Sam Gale: +4.019



Elite Women:


1st. Kate Weatherly: 2:14.832
2nd. Jessica Blewitt: +11.238




U19 Men:


1st. James Macdermid: 1:59.727
2nd. Lachlan Stevens-McNab: +0.773
3rd. Cameron Beck: +2.072
4th. Alex Wayman: +2.583
5th. Sam Weir: +6.422



U19 Women:


1st. Jenna Hastings: 2:21.028
2nd. Kalani Muirhead: +17.817




Full Results:

Elite Men:


Elite Women:


U19 Men:


U19 Women:




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148 Comments

  • 68 11
 Jessica really Blewitt this time.
  • 12 73
flag TARTARA (Jan 31, 2021 at 5:11) (Below Threshold)
 Jess is more shredder,
than a lot of pinkbikers,
and some others "pro's" !!!
Over and out !
  • 35 4
 @TARTARA: did the joke go over your head?
  • 7 76
flag TARTARA (Jan 31, 2021 at 5:31) (Below Threshold)
 @fatduke:
did the "how very bad is" joke go over your head?
  • 32 4
 @TARTARA: No its very much a dad joke and should be taken as that.

Off to ride my bike enjoy your day
  • 11 1
 If you're not last, you're first
  • 2 0
 If you’re first your second to last @rtclark:
  • 2 5
 *you’re
  • 53 0
 So good to see Brooke McDonald making such a good comeback into racing
  • 51 2
 Louis Hamilton dropping F1 to ride bikes. Nice.
  • 10 0
 Now we understand why he hasn’t signed that next contract. Excellent.
  • 10 4
 Please. Not again.
  • 49 27
 Kate gets beat at the world stage all the time. There are born women with a greater physical advantage in other sports. I race knowing I’ll be midpack. And that most of the top of field have advantages whether it be physical or actually being able to afford a mtb as a kid. I go and have a good time. I just don’t think that many women are having a great time or think they will have a good time racing. What needs to be done to change that I’m not sure. Last race I went to was pre COVID and a 14 year old girl got a cash pay out cause the two female pro racers convinced her to sign up pro and ride with them rather than her do the whole race by herself after the u/18 boys. As opposed to 100 some guys in the male sport class across ages.



I do not know the best way to approach the issue. And unfortunately it is one that will have even bigger contentious issues going forward. But at this time a third category is totally unfreasible. Is Kate supposed to just race herself at every race. While the only 3 women riders each get a free podium.

There are far bigger issues facing women’s mtb in general and especially racing than one transgender athlete. I hope brands, organizers, and male riders can get women more stoked to spend time on the bike especially competitively. But Kate is not the problem and any gal saying they don’t race because of her is just making excuses. You know other women beat her regularly why can’t you do it yourself.
  • 12 9
 Well put.
  • 11 1
 “You know other women beat her regularly why can’t you do it yourself.”


-_-
  • 17 7
 @nateisgrate: she has stood on the podium at the WC. Kate raced pro as a man.
  • 41 4
 Kate getting beat on the world stage isnt really the concern. it's the NZ girls who get beat by 15+ seconds in the national series, that then dont get the opportunity to develop and race on the world stage. you can call it an excuse, but no doubt its demoralizing for young aspiring racers

that being said, you are dead on by saying that womens MTB has a lot bigger issues than a single trans racer from NZ
  • 16 44
flag bulletbassman (Jan 31, 2021 at 9:31) (Below Threshold)
 @regdunlop38: Kate is simply the best in the field and by a long shot. Rather than judge her, perhaps these young racers should be seeking advice and appreciating a high level of competition. Kate is certainly aware of her unique situation and is not taking advantage of it but rather working thru it. I don’t think it is too much to ask the others in the field to do the same. Something tells me if they rallied around one another they’d all be better for it.

Nothing about this world is fair or perfectly idealistic. But given the moral choice to exclude Kate or not i think most think the uci has come to a fairly good middle ground given circumstances. And the wc level
Has proven Kate does not have an unbeatable advantage.
  • 4 2
 @bulletbassman: but why a long shot?
  • 6 22
flag bulletbassman (Jan 31, 2021 at 9:51) (Below Threshold)
 @Intense4life: experience, skill, and training. I’m a decent mtber. I can’t just go trans and be at remotely the level she is on a bike.

Greg Minaar isn’t the goat cause he’s talk you know.
  • 41 2
 @bulletbassman: Kate is not a decent mint biker. Kate is former professional male racer turned professional female racer. Kates experience , skill and training has been predominantly gained as a male. This is the basis for previous protests by females racers in other countries. Greg has no place in this convo.
  • 16 26
flag bulletbassman (Jan 31, 2021 at 10:18) (Below Threshold)
 @Intense4life: she is 21 and has been taking hormone blockers since 17. To say she had a pro career as a man is entirely untrue.

It is a tough situation and Kate does have a physical advantage. But I’m a whole lot more empethetic to her situation than someone who wants to quit because they lost some races.
  • 15 2
 @bulletbassman: so you’ve made your decision. Yes on physical advantage. Empathy is not the issue.
  • 6 2
 @bulletbassman: Kate raced pro as a man.nobody said career.
  • 3 3
 What’s wrong with Greg Minaar, he’s an awesome rider?!! @Intense4life:
  • 6 0
 @enduroNZ: nothing mate. He’s the best.
  • 8 7
 @Intense4life:
Pretty sure she didn't actually, she raced the appropriate age group up until she was old enough to race the open category. She never raced in the pro category (I guess the equivalent in New Zealand is the elite category)
  • 9 2
 @floor-tom: incorrect. Kate raced under her former name and competed as an elite male in 2017. I believe 25th out of 39.
  • 4 2
 @Intense4life: wait until you realize she raced three seasons in the male category meeting the Olympic requirements to race as a female.
  • 9 1
 @bulletbassman: Right. 15 year old girls should stop complaining and go beat Loic Bruni. Got your point.
  • 8 4
 @SupraKZ: no. I’m saying maybe they need to beat Kate on their way to the World Cup. Because the rules of racing are the rules of racing and it’s the best compromise that can be reached at the time. It should be cool that she has a wc podium as a transitioned female and is riding well enough to be somewhat competitive. Kate gets blown away by 10 seconds or more regularly on the other hand. She hasn’t given up cause her competition doesn’t have to deal with constant bullying and harassment for every good and bad result.

These women should be watching Kate as an example rather than a threat. This isn’t mma, it’s dh bike racing and you race the clock. Kate isn’t stopping you from going faster. Kate isn’t stopping you from riding at wc pace. If anything she is a marker for you to compete against to see how competitive you could be on the world stage.

I am in no way saying the rules are perfect. But to remove Kate from the women’s field isn’t suddenly going to make women’s elite racing be packed with competitors and there is no one for Kate to compete against in a third category.
  • 2 1
 @SupraKZ: She is not racing against 15 year old girls, they are racing juniors.
  • 1 0
 @bulletbassman: Nah dude. Jenna Hastings won the Elite women's race while she's still in under 19. That's the most important stat
  • 27 7
 The United States Air Force has tracked the athletic performance of male to female transgender service members. Collecting data after 1 year of hormone therapy, the natural born males out preform the natural born females at a minimum of 12%, and upwards (I believe) of 20-30% at the 1 year mark. Doesn’t seem like conjecture. Seems like a decent sample group with real time athletic performance data that clearly shows that the natural born females are at a disadvantage. Why? Because testosterone at a single point in time doesn’t matter as much as an aggregate impact of testosterone in the body and it’s effects over time

No hate for Kate, however. It’s just bikes. People should at least be able to acknowledge reality and not just have a social justice warrior mentality
  • 2 5
 @onlyDH: she started therapy at 17. Born in ‘97.
  • 6 2
 @DHhack: right. In the study, advantage has continued every year after the one year mark on hormonal therapy, and is into the 3rd or 4th year now
  • 4 1
 @onlyDH: cite the study
  • 2 4
 @DHhack: yeah, where is the link? Most stuff I saw so far was about people who were on hrt only for a short time and who went through male puberty. I think the key to this issue is mainly about trans healthcare which sucks. If we would have proper diagnostics it would be easier to not let people have to go through the unwanted puberty. Also the way these hormone levels are achieved are highly individual and depend mainly on the doctor who prescribes them. There is no basic protocol or standards of care. They vary greatly from country to country and what medications are available.
  • 1 2
 @onlyDH: The study ended after 2.5 years. They did not have the data after that. The reason was not stated but the time service members were allowed to identify as trans was 2.5 years so my assumption would be they had to stop the study when the medical information was no longer available.
  • 4 4
 @KalkhoffKiller: Puberty is a critical developmental period for humans, and pretty much all mammals. There is no way to "postpone" puberty. There are medical treatments that appear to slow certain aspects of puberty, but all these treatments have horrendous effects on the body of a child, and nearly always end in sterilization. It is the height of hubris to think that its somehow ok to sterilize and destroy the physical health of an otherwise healthy child, a child that is too young to consent to sex or sign a contract, all in the name of supposed "equality".
  • 5 5
 Testosterone is not the only thing that increases male performance. studies have found that 3 year olds already exhibit sexual dimorphism when throwing a ball, for heavens sake! Male fetuses, yet unborn, have a greater number of neurons in their brain for processing high speed movement (at a cost of lower color perception compared to females). Prepubescent boys weigh more, have higher muscle mass, denser bones, faster reaction times, stronger craniums, more fast twitch muscle fibers, more aggression, and on and on and on. All before puberty, before the large disparity in testosterone that puberty brings.
  • 3 4
 @hamncheez: You are right when looking at averages but there are always outliers and there is a spectrum where people fall between the most extreme of what you are saying on either end. Averages point to the difference and that is correct from a macro perspective but individuals are a much more complicated story.

There is no gap between the most feminine boys and the most masculine girls in the studies you talk about. That complexity is challenging when it comes to sport. Frankly, there are lots of masculine women in sport. There are lots of derogatory names people have used to describe them as well.
  • 3 2
 @hamncheez: Just to be clear, I am not saying I know what is right with regard to racing it is just way more complicated than anyone can really discuss effectively in this forum. Reading the article on the air force service members my original opinion that the IOC and UCI know better looks to be wrong with regard to a single year on therapy but we really lose out having that study not continued past the 2.5 years it was.
  • 5 0
 @Adamrideshisbike: that’s not the study and there is no link to the study in that article.
  • 9 2
 @ptrcarson: Word salads again. Yes stats are difficult, but no, people are able to discuss mammalian biology, even in place like this.This stuff is not so complicated that no one can understand it.

Here's one for you. Elite female athletes rank in the 25th percentile for grip strength versus males. In other words, women that train everyday have the grip strength of some of the weakest males in the population. So you can talk about averages not meaning anything and that there is overlap all day, but I can talk about the outliers of the female population ranking in the low-end of the average male population.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17186303

Honestly, at what point do you just start to trust your own common-sense?
  • 1 3
 @DHhack: Give it a Goog dude!
  • 4 0
 @Adamrideshisbike: I’m not the one quoting it.
  • 4 5
 @ptrcarson: No matter how many performance enhancing drugs I take, I will never be fast enough to qualify for a World Cup. Does that mean its ok for me to compete with PEDs?
  • 3 0
 @Adamrideshisbike: I don't think what you said contradicts what I was saying. I said I don't know how that applies to racing, I was clear about that. I will stand by saying this again:

I don't think this forum is where we are going to solve this and if there is a concern with the rules that concern should be directed at UCI, not Kate.
  • 3 2
 @DHhack: Nor didI. I just love the "hey, cite it!" as if it doesn't exist crowd. It's out there. It's easy to find. I got you half way.

Here's another one though:

"The performance gap is more pronounced in sporting activities relying on muscle mass and explosive strength, particularly in the upper body. Longitudinal studies examining the effects of testosterone suppression on muscle mass and strength in transgender women consistently show very modest changes, where the loss of lean body mass, muscle area and strength typically amounts to approximately 5% after 12 months of treatment. Thus, the muscular advantage enjoyed by transgender women is only minimally reduced when testosterone is suppressed. Sports organizations should consider this evidence when reassessing current policies regarding participation of transgender women in the female category of sport."

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33289906
  • 5 2
 @hamncheez: No that is up to the UCI to decide where it is appropriate to race. Not me.
  • 5 8
 @Adamrideshisbike: stop being a tool. It’s not the job of the audience to find the study that someone else decided to quote in defense of their position. Odds are they didn’t quote it properly, out of context etc etc etc. Cite your sources or shut up. Knock down those that don’t cite, prop up those that do. That’s how it works.
  • 4 6
 @Adamrideshisbike: now we could talk about what makes someone male versus female, and then where in that spectrum the participants of that study were.

Now to mention, why were there 3 times as many men in that study? That’s not a very well designed, or executed, study.
  • 5 4
 @DHhack: Which study is that? I've posted three in this thread.

Also, sex is not a spectrum. Full stop. There are males and females.
  • 6 4
 @Adamrideshisbike: there are as many people born with intersex traits as there are people with natural red hair. Google intersex since you’ve obviously never heard of it.
  • 3 3
 @DHhack: We are not talking about intersex people.

The vast, vast vast majority of people who present themselves as trans have no physiological identifiers that they feel their sex is not in line with their personality. No objective doctor could diagnose it without asking the patient directly.
  • 4 2
 @DHhack: ? Maybe you should use google. Intersex is .02 percent of the population, red hair is 2. You are off by a 100x
  • 3 3
 @DHhack: I've heard of it. And I have red hair. What does that mean?

I guess it means you need to find an intersex person now, but apparently that's going to be pretty hard.
  • 3 1
 @hamncheez: you have no idea what you are talking about. If you don't treat them they will go down the diy hrt route anyway.
  • 2 3
 @KalkhoffKiller: there is no evidence that transitioning reduces self harm and suicide.

Someone identifying as trans had no physical markers that they are trans. Physiologically, there is nothing to correct nor nothing unhealthy about their bodies. Being trans is a psychological pathology, not a physiological one, so it should be treated psychologically.
  • 2 3
 @hamncheez: that's wrong and not in line with the current opinion of professionals. Maybe you are just salty because trump lost and make up things about some minority to feel better?

edition.cnn.com/2020/01/23/health/transgender-puberty-blockers-suicide-study/index.html

www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01237-z
  • 14 3
 I don't think it's a recent trend. Looking at the National Championship entrants:
2016 4 Elite Women
2017 4 Elite Women
2018 6 Elite Women (Weatherley's first race)
2019 5 Elite Women
2020 2 Elite Women

My completely unscientific opinion is that women come into riding later, and DH is less likely to appeal. Hell I'm almost 40 and have no interest in competing in DH again. Too much risk.
  • 3 1
 I'm almost 40, and just started racing Downhill again and LOVING it. So much fun, and I think in many ways less risky for me than Enduro. The speeds are higher sure, but I can learn the track, and can work up my speed over a number of runs. Ultimately a more controlled environment than going balls out into a track that my foggy old brain can't recall 3 seconds after leaving the start.
  • 1 0
 It isn't just the girls, there's only 40 riders in the "full results" Back in the day there was 40 juniors.
  • 15 8
 Why is all of the pressure directed at Kate? She is a rider competing within the established rules that designate how she can compete. If you are made at the rules, be mad at the governing bodies. To Kate, congrats on a great race!

It's too bad that most of the people who have spent time educating themselves on the situation have done so to better their ability to criticize, as opposed to using this as an opportunity for empathy and increased understanding of the different lived experiences if the humans around you.

Nice work to the winners, NZ DH is hard and being successful takes great skill and commitment.
  • 5 4
 The first NZ race had very little female participation and the NZ commenters said it wasn’t so. Here we are at the second race with a small pool of women. Now why? NZ isn’t stoking it’s girls to be shredders as much as everywhere else it seems.
  • 11 1
 Don’t confuse shredding with racing, or racing DH specifically.
  • 9 33
flag dungeonbeast (Jan 31, 2021 at 6:03) (Below Threshold)
 @regdunlop38: like men inserting themselves into conversations they have no experience with? I’d be hesitant to come to races to if I had people projecting their narrow beliefs onto my life.
  • 37 4
 @dungeonbeast: actually a lot of the girls were inserting themselves into the conversation until they were bullied, threatened and shamed into shutting up.
  • 45 8
 @regdunlop38: I’m sure Kate is sick of constant controversy over this however, life just is not fair. I see it like the person born with out legs that gets prosthetic legs and can now run faster than a able body runner. Is it fair for them to compete? It’s not fair that you were born in the wrong body period. But it’s not fair to the women’s racing class to have to compete against you in The name of inclusion. Just my two cents, I am open to other opinions and would like to here them.
  • 13 21
flag regdunlop38 (Jan 31, 2021 at 8:11) (Below Threshold)
 Specifically, please don’t violate our terms of use, which state that any hate speech or personal attacks will not be tolerated. Transgender advocates, social media platforms, and other media companies consider misgendering and ‘deadnaming’ (using someone’s former name) as slurs and personal attacks.

The aim is not to censor conversations or ideas, but just like other slurs and personal attacks, misgendering and deadnaming are not welcome on our platform.

please explain how my suggestion (that perhaps NZL girls aren't participating because they dont feel the race is fair) is a violation of any of the terms of use? didnt use hate speech. I didn't use a personal attack. I didn't misgender, deadname, or use any slurs. You say the aim is not to censor conversations or ideas, but that seems to be exactly what you are doing
  • 14 2
 @robway: Really well put. Agree completely, life is not fair bottom line, but its not fair to the women's racing class and I think its is the wrong decision to allow it. Its such a contentious topic and I really feel for Kate. But this isn't the answer.
  • 9 2
 I said it the first time and I'll say it again, we have females riding, but very few who are interested in racing, especially at elite level
  • 14 5
 @robway: @ccs321: As far as I can see, that controversy is mostly due to you international folks. It doesn't seem to me that her case is controversial here in NZ. I only ever read controversy about her when US/UK folks get into the convo.
  • 7 2
 @padirt go look at the number of women competing in DH over the last 10 years. Kate's participation hasn't made any significant difference.
  • 2 1
 @regdunlop38: because you're projecting onto people directly involved. And your suggesting that they feel agrieved could be perceived to justify the acts of individuals eager to "protect women" by any means available (or who are looking for an excuse for certain attitudes and behaviours).
I think that may be why, but who knows?
  • 2 1
 @PhillipJ: hasn't made a difference?

Last week there were NO other competitors and this week there was on only 1.

Even if there was only 4 in years past that's still a huge drop.

Where's Shania Rawson?
  • 2 2
 @Larkey1: it’s a pandemic the men’s field is down significantly in numbers
  • 5 3
 @Larkey1: a change of 2 is not huge or significant.

Plenty of women racing enduro despite Kate doing well there too.

DH just isn't that popular.
  • 2 3
 @PhillipJ: it's 50% of the field. I'll ask again: where's Shania Rawson?
  • 4 2
 @Larkey1: by claiming that a large percentage of a small number is significant all you're demonstration is that you don't understand significance.
  • 3 2
 @BenPea: multiple riders have come out and voiced this sentiment, but were shamed and silenced for having that opinion. It's an important point that should be considered when trying to figure all this out
  • 2 1
 @dirtologist: I can believe that definitely, but I would be surprised if the topic can be put to bed so easily, even in New Zealand. I don't know, maybe it can be, but it seems to me there are sill a lot of questions to ask and hash out, that could probably benefit everybody, including trans people. I'm sure there will be plenty more trans people coming into the sport in years to come.
  • 4 0
 @regdunlop38: I agree that it's not a black and white issue and I've previously questioned the ability of science to guarantee that the playing field is level when a previously male rider races against women. As you say, we haven't figured it all out and in the meantime, the situation is what it is. If some have been put off then that's a problem and a solution would be welcome, but to suggest that KW has single-handedly destroyed NZ women's DH is potentially harmful conjecture (this is a minority that has taken a lot of shit in their time) and ignores other causes that are undoubtedly in play, as mentioned by others. If she is forced to carry that responsibility on her shoulders by herself and we ignore the possibility that maybe there aren't a lot of female kiwis who want to race in this brutal sport because they simply aren't interested, then we are heading in a dangerous direction that could have dire consequences. I think that's why your post was removed. That narrative can contribute in a seemingly minor way to bad stuff happening.
Also, it's worth noting that there were only two under 19s, who were not racing in KW's category (although they still came reasonably close to her time), which begs the question: why so few under 19s?
It's a sensitive topic and nuance isn't fashionable, but that doesn't make it less necessary.
  • 3 1
 @BenPea: It's as simple as we don't have women interested in racing dh here at a high level. Pre-Kate numbers have not differed from post-Kate numbers when it comes to the national series. Go to a women's only race or enduro and there will be plenty of participants, same as any xc/dh/enduro race for males and females. We have thousands of riders but very few either wanting or confident enough to race at the highest level
  • 2 1
 @rrsport: exactly
  • 5 0
 Year of the dog
  • 3 0
 Did Tuhoto-Ariki Pene pick up a factory team ride or is he still a privateer?
  • 1 0
 @majortt: Ah cheers, was thinking after he got the privateer award some one must have put him on their radar as future potential.
  • 4 0
 Blenki?
  • 5 0
 Everyone is in Queenstown.
  • 43 44
 Sorry but this sucks.

Including one person to make the whole playing field unlevel sucks.

I'm sure Kate is a lovely girl - but a third catagory is needed to make this fair. We're trying to get more females into the sport. Treating their race as one that can be participated in by someone who has unfair advantages because of a morale stand point is pretty messed up. Does NZ care more about it's transgender athletes more than it's female athletes?

No hate on Kate - but even after talking with her, I struggle to find how she can still enjoy racing when clearly it upsets so many of her potential competition.

I'd hate to see Kate stop riding or racing - but this is just upsetting and unfair.

Create a third clas
  • 4 4
 Class*
  • 25 10
 Not all of us Kiwi's support Kate taking the national champs. Surely she's taking the piss...
  • 13 2
 I don't happen to agree with you but I appreciate the balanced and sensitive way you've put across your opinion. I wish more people would take the time to recognise both sides of an argument when making their point rather just engaging in a shouting competition that assumes anyone who disagrees must be stupid.
  • 7 12
flag reignydayz (Feb 1, 2021 at 11:22) (Below Threshold)
 Well said Larkey1. For me this is cut and dried. At the end of the day he was born Anton Weatherly not Kate. He/she can do whatever he likes with his/her gender but I don't agree with him/her racing against women. Look at it from the perspective of Kate/Anton's competitors, imagine actually lining up against him/her. I want to be clear that I'm not hating on the rider here but as a genuine female competitor riding against him/her how could you not feel uncomfortable, hard done by,and let down by the people that run the sport? It is simply not fair. And isn't it "fair" what we all want so we can establish who the fastest really is, on an even playing ground? I agree, set up a third transgender class.
  • 10 2
 @reignydayz: I'm not sure you are doing it with bad intentions - and of course you're entitled to your opinion about who can race where - but unfortunately you are misgendering Kate, which is unnecessary and causes untold hurt to trans people worldwide on a daily basis. Please look it up and consider how you phrase your opinions in future.
  • 2 2
 It's a tough situation, and I see both sides. I can empathize with Kate wanting to race DH. Kate should be able to race, and I can see the reluctance to have a third field for transgendered folks.

So lets take things back to the roots of sex divided categories. Men have a biological advantage in many physical sports, and particularly in downhill. A region mid-pack Pro Men racer is often faster than the quickest Pro Women. This isn't in any way disrespect to the women's racers, I think women racers are incredible, there is simply a significant performance difference between men and women in downhill MTB. Expecting women to "suck it up" and "be better" to be competitive with the Pro Men is unreasonable. And if we're to follow down that path, why have sex divided categories at all? A Women's category is created so that women can compete with other women of the same biology, not of the same gender identity. I think gender identity has confused the reason we have different categories for sexes. So why not remove the legacy labels of "Mens" and "Womens" and simply use the biological nomenclature for classifying categories? There would be a XX Pro and XY Pro category. This removes the stigma and difficulty around gender identity and allows everyone to compete on a biologically even playing field.
  • 5 3
 So as an outsider, are there only two women with enough points to race Elite in NZ at present?
  • 4 0
 You need points to race in a regional race? I thought that only applied to World Cups?
  • 6 1
 More like only two women who are interested in racing elite. There's only two in the U19 field too in case you somehow missed that bit.
  • 7 5
 just four women competing?? - awwww come on gals.....
  • 1 0
 NZ is DH Racing the rest of us are jealous. 2022 is looking like a good year for racing in North America
  • 1 0
 what about ed masters, wyn masters, or david mcmillan? they're not competing??
  • 2 0
 @regdunlop38: The sky is blue. Is that offensive to you as well?
  • 9 7
 Jessica #1
  • 1 0
 Link please. Surely there were other cats.
  • 2 1
 Bulldog!!!
  • 4 6
 Came here only to cheers to Bulldog!

But, using someone’s former name taken as a personal attack? World is getting crazy.
  • 2 2
 I miss seeing Tracey's name on the list
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