Results: Timed Training - Lousa World Cup DH 2020

Oct 28, 2020
by James Smurthwaite  
A last hurrah here for World Cup veteran and podium every-timer Tracey Hannah. Will she go quietly Let s hope not.

The first results are in from the first timed session in Portugal on the new track. As with last week, training today and timed training takes place on Track 1, the tracks will be switched over on Friday night but there will be no timed training on track 2 later in the week.

Elite Men:

1st. Greg Minnaar - 4:07.130
2nd. Matt Walker +0.982
3rd. Danny Hart +1.442
4th. Loris Revelli +1.644
5th. Benoit Coulanges +2.259
6th. Thomas Estaque +2.482
7th. Troy Brosnan +3.850
8th. Bernard Kerr +4.006
9th. Finn Iles +4.075
10th. Baptiste Pierron +4.774

Elite Women:

1st. Tracey Hannah - 4:51.919
2nd. Camille Balanche +5.003
3rd. Monika Hrastnik +14.420
4th. Eleonora Farina +18.998
5th. Mikayla Parton +29.409
6th. Nina Hoffmann +48.837
7th. Marine Cabirou +1:48.764
8th. Myriam Nicole +2:38.418
9th. Tahnee Seagrave +6:52.604
10th Mille Johnset +12.22.425

Junior Men:

1st. Goncalo Bandeira - 4:16.228
2nd. Dan Slack +4.960
3rd. Johan Garcin +5.348
4th. Ethan Craik +5.881
5th. Nuno Reis +7.076

Junior Women:

1st. Leona Pierrini - 5:21.736
2nd. Ella Erickson +39.546
3rd. Siel Van Der Velden +7:47.182

Full results

Elite Men

Elite Women

Junior Men

Junior Women


  • 95 1
 That dinosaur going pretty quick!
  • 22 0
 @adrennan : what do you get when you mix a goat with a dinosaur? apparently a fast DH racer! also wyn is hilarious!
  • 23 0
 fastest dinosaur out there!
  • 6 0
  • 1 0
 @rockchomper: crazy white shoes?
  • 17 0
 Goatosaurus Rex.
  • 2 0
  • 67 0
 Danny's motivation for going fast is so he can give his bike back sooner.
  • 27 1
 I am the only one who hears Rob's voice yelling "ITS GREG MINNARRRR!" ...asking for a friend?
  • 8 2
  • 7 3
 Am I the only one who hears, "TIMED TRAINING DOESN'T MATTER!"? ... asking for a friend?
  • 4 0
 he's got the speed to win here
  • 2 0
 ees carrying good speed!
  • 1 0
 @scott-townes: a 22 World Cup win says otherwise. Yeah MINNAAR!
  • 18 0
 shit just GOAT serious! Bring it home GM!
  • 15 0
 Would be sweet to see Tracy wrap things up with the double win. Minaar tho, what a legend
  • 12 0
 Phil Atwill in 19th? Pretty good for a team that wasn't going to be there.
  • 8 0
 Gaetan is there too.. They're protected by Bliss, nothing can happen.
  • 13 4
 Is this the year that Matt Walker eclipses Danny Hart as the premier British racer?
  • 6 0
 Based on results thus far, Yes.
  • 6 8
 Hope so.
  • 20 1
 Isn't the world champ a Brit?
  • 12 6
 @bikerbarrett: winning one race does not make you the premier racer unfortunately. Just ask Danny Hart.
  • 13 0
 I like walker but he’ll need to win several races and need one of the most epic world champ runs ever to do that. That’s a tall list. He’s certainly working that way though...
  • 10 0
 @jaame Luckily their results are graphed perfectly head to head on RootsandRain and you can see for yourself if there is a trend or not.
You can look at it with Danny as the standard like this:,1906
Or you can look at it with Matt as the standard:,795

Everyone...remember to buy photos off Seb's site Roots and Rain to keep him afloat. this year has been hard!!!
  • 2 0
 Didn't Danny admit in after Maribor round II with Wyn that he was holding back a bit and not risking it all?
  • 1 0
 I honestly think he has the speed to just needs some more experience with coping at the top level and he's set
  • 3 0
 @blowmyfuse: Thanks for the links. Very interesting.
I have been told Matt Walker has been faster than Danny Hart for a few seasons in practice, but that reminds me of my training partner back in the day. He was faster than me in practice but never beat me in a race. Basically because I only ever went 100% in race runs. Not worth the risk in training.
  • 2 0
 @jaame: The year RockShox held team camp at Windrock (2 yrs ago?), Walker was blitzing it, but you had the sense that Danny wasn't going to push it to the brink outside of World Cups while there.

That was also the year that the Commencal team was at Windrock too and I was like "Where in the F*** is Pierron going with all that Haul!?!!?"
  • 4 1
 @bikerbarrett: Technically he's Scottish... sooo yeah.
  • 1 0
 @blowmyfuse: All the WC guys are freaky period, end of statement. The ones that are so capable they have the ability to crank to 11 and be chill the rest of the time are just spooky.
  • 2 0
 Yes mate! Round 1 of the BDS last year where all the top UK riders turned out for Matt won that - he had 2 seconds quicker Danny who came in 2nd and 6 seconds quicker than Gee who was 3rd. He's riding solid!
  • 11 2
 Gwin with the second best time at the first split!
  • 6 0
 This track will suit him well if he can handle the steeps. Fast as hell, dry, moto jumps.
  • 4 2
 I always noticed when he was winning a slow/stopping to spot lines time training run with a few fast splits here and there was a dead giveaway he was going to be on the podium. On the opposite a fast timed run meant he was looking for speed. Not sure if it's actually true BTW. Let's hope so.
  • 5 0
 Yeah, hopefully he has a clean run! If its dry I reckon a top 3 for Gwin on this track.
  • 4 0
 @ronan: He can be quick in the wet too. He can even be quick with a broken drivetrain or punctured rear tire.
  • 8 12
flag Korbi777 (Oct 28, 2020 at 13:22) (Below Threshold)
 gwin is finished, he lost nine minutes, thats just too much
  • 3 0
 @Korbi777: Lost nine minutes while trying to get a solid run or lost nine minutes while spotting lines? He's admitted himself during times of dominating the field, that he takes his timed training super chill and goes all out on race day. Not to say he has it in him, just stating from how he has been known to ride.
  • 4 1
 @MAZphoto: nah, I dont think so, he was just really far behind
  • 1 0
 @Korbi777: Seems he did alright with his finish, making it kind of clear that he was scouting lines like his old ways. Unless these people are crashing non-stop or physically stopping on course, there is no way I can see ANYONE being 5+ minutes behind the leader in an elite category. There are riders who have had 2-3 crashes in a mud race and still only fell less than 45 seconds back.
  • 1 0
 @MAZphoto: damn, how do you know these kind of things. when you say it like that its obvious
  • 7 0
 Walker looking like number one UK rider until Reece comes back? And Tracy possibly going out on a high?
  • 4 0
 He’s definitely stepped up but Reece was looking like a world beater before hitting his head
  • 1 0
 I would 100% take Walker over Reece. Sure, you gotta be able to ride in the mud, but most races on the WC circuit are relatively dry. Walker has shown more speed and consistency over the past two years
  • 3 0
 @Mntneer: totally agree with you, Walker has been British champ as well, a young talent who's starting to find his consistency and hasn't reached his peak yet
  • 2 1
 @ompete: I agree. Consistency is key. Reece could turn out to be a flash in the pan. Quite a few guys have one off wins. Especially in mud. I'm not saying he's slow, quite the opposite. Walker is definitely fast and consistent though. Danny Hart won't do anything this year with the new baby. Babies ruin your life. It's not until the stop being so useless that you get your life back. I would rather adopt a five year old than put myself through that hell again.

So this season Im saying Walker is number one, with Wilson or Hart being number 2.
  • 6 0
 A double header on a 4 minute track! It's going to be a tiring week for the racers.
  • 19 13
 Man Gwin not even in the top 10????

His career is over!! Cant keep up with the new young guns!

*NOTICE: this is sarcasm
  • 9 2
 Married life thins the man sauce for a bit until one can regain the stones to pin it again. He'll bring it back around.

And yes, sarcasm is king!!! Beer
  • 8 3
 He just can't deliver on what everyone knows is the most important day!
  • 2 2
 @thingswelike: Peaty couldn't either until Canberra. You a winner?
  • 3 0
 @blowmyfuse: I was meaning timed training! Bollocks to world champs Wink
  • 6 0
 Even when I explicitly say this is sarcasm, in the context of a long running joke on PB about timed training being more important than finals, people don't get it. I give up.
  • 2 0
 Gwin has always done that in timed training
  • 2 0
 @jonser: Yeah, I think it's how he applies pressure to himself. You can tell he only cares about the points and the podium and timed training runs doesn't affect how fast he can go in a final so why bother.
Mentally, he's just different.

Pretty sure there was a point where he uncorked a couple though. hah
  • 1 0
 @jonser: what you said!
  • 6 0
 Anyone know why Oisín O Callaghan got a DNF?
  • 32 0
 I don't think he finished.
  • 3 5
 @Linkpin: Your interpretation of the question is lacking.
  • 2 0
 @Linkpin: worthy of an upvote ;-)
  • 4 0
 What happened to Oisin? I hope he is fine.
  • 6 4
 Look at all those Union's like Saturday Night at the f*****g Proms !
  • 3 0
 Oison? Congrats GM on the tough win! haha
  • 1 0
 How do you light a fire under a goat?
Call him a dinosaur....
The fresh prince of big air is flying!
Go Greg. 80th podium on the top step
  • 2 0
 G. Minnaar and G. Bandeira are on fire!!!
  • 1 1
 What the heck is going on with those Elite Women times?! 10-placed man is within 5 seconds of the leader, and the 10th-placed woman is over 12 MINUTES behind the leader!
  • 5 0
 Uhhhh its training dude. Also there are only 10 women so last place could have crashed, stopped, flatted etc.
  • 1 0
 Hmm whats martin maes gonna do this year. expecting him to be on the podium soon.
  • 2 0
 Who is Loris Revelli ??
  • 61 1
 It's actually LRS RVLL as he's riding for the CLLCTV
  • 5 0
 2015 JR European champion DH 2019 national champion of Italy DH 2020 national champion of Italy Enduro
  • 2 1
 @thingswelike: badass ! Never heard of him I guess.
  • 2 0
 @Becciu: Hahahaha
  • 1 0
 bought him for my fantasy team just because i first heard of him in this post
  • 4 0
 faster italian rider in DH and enduro, after me obviously
  • 2 2
 what in the world is happening in the men’s leaderboard these days so random
  • 8 0
 Timed Training leaderboards are often pretty random. Different guys go differentially hard, so the guys who treat it as a full on race run are at the top whereas others (Gwin for example), seem to work on a particular section or two and coast (or even stop) on others.
  • 3 0
 @MarcusBrody: a lot of British riders use this track as a winter training spot to escape the horrible weather back home. At least, I assume it's this track.
  • 3 0
 @jaame: Its the Fox tuning camp spot from late Feb/early March also so lots of people know the track to some degree
  • 1 0
 @paulskibum: as I typed it I started wondering about the second track. Two tracks on one weekend again right?
  • 1 0
 I wouldn't call it random. All of the top 10 are absolute pinners
  • 1 0
 @jaame: I think there is a section with an alternate line for race 2 - not two full tracks - the track walk photo story showed a diversion
  • 2 0
  • 2 0
  • 1 0
 @robmarini-jet Minnaar is such a legend !
  • 1 0
 Damn, Bernard Kerr stepping up his game.
  • 1 1
 That don’t mean nothing
  • 1 0

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